As much as I wish I could afford the Canon RF 85mm 1.2, honestly my adapted Sigma 85mm f1.4 DG has been absolutely amazing. The adapter might be a bit of a hassle to live with, but the performance of that lens has been stellar. I really do wish we could get some native Sigma RF lenses, it's unfortunate Canon has taken this oppositional stance against third party manufacturers. I almost hate to say it but I have really considered trying to convert to Sony, primarily because of their more open platform.

@migflowers

Жыл бұрын

I’m considering the same adaptation on my R6. Which body do you have? Hitting eye AF consistently?

@KevinBein

Жыл бұрын

@@migflowers Eye AF on my R6 with my adapted Sigma lenses has been fantastic. Not perfect, but maybe only marginally worse than a native RF lens. Honestly my only real complaints are just having to use an adapter, and the size of the lenses. Otherwise I just love them.

@M4TR1X

Жыл бұрын

​@@KevinBein agree, are you on Canon yet? Just curious what happened after 5 months.

@KevinBein

Жыл бұрын

@@M4TR1X so far still rocking the adapted Sigma lenses. Although I did pick up the drop in filter adapter which is really nice. Between that and what I get out of my current lenses I am not in any rush to upgrade right now... Someday though.

@chase5860

Жыл бұрын

Well said Kevin. Although to be fair, Canon hasn't been the only one guilty of this. Only now this year is Sigma finally releasing their very first lenses for Nikon Z. And I think Canon RF won't be far off now. I would say it was a marketing ploy of both brands. If they limited the competition, they could encourage more sales of RF glass. But now they probably realize they are heavily alienating those who just don't have the insane amounts of money to buy their lenses and so now they are finally opening up the tech to third parties.

Alex thank you for including the raw files you are doing a great service. its appreciated.

@skyiswomb1

Жыл бұрын

Agreed! Thank you!

How are you comparing canon lens vs sigma lens on completely different system... are you doing canon vs sony body or u are doing Canon Lens vs Sigma Lens ?

Man, these videos are *chefs kiss*. While I'm constantly contemplating the to Sony, this is the exact type of stuff I'm looking for. It was interesting to see the colour of the images change between each image in the difference scenarios. Sometimes the Sigma appeared warmer and vice versa. One more thing to add, I think EF L glass had very distinct character. Now with mirrorless lenses, it seems to be a battle for sharpness. Insane sharpness isn't always everything for portraits and when the difference is so minor, and the character is not as apparent, charging double is just crazy.

@felipecastro8668

Жыл бұрын

Surgical analysis!

@JoshStreetDesign

Жыл бұрын

That's true. My 85 1.2 II adapted on the A7rIV has a very unique look that all other mirrorless lens don't have. It just renders bokeh differently. On the flip side though, it's soft and has TONS of fringing. My sigma art lenses, the 105 and 35 1.2 are razor blades that produce amazing color and contrast.

@skyiswomb1

Жыл бұрын

@@JoshStreetDesign AND it focuses so slowly haha. Will continue to follow along!

Great review! Curious, have you had any issues with communication between the Sigma and the body? I have a Sigma and use it with my Canon R6 but it randomly shows 00 for aperture and won’t let me take a picture then. Would that be due to the adapter, the camera or the lens? That makes me worry whether I should continue buying Sigma versus Canon.

I am using Canon R5C and Sigma 24-70 lens. How do I change the aperture on the Sigma lens using the aperture ring on the lens? It is not doing anything. I have to use the Canon R5 screen or dial button.

I got the Sigma 85 1.4 for the EF mount recently. My favorite lens right now, works well with my R and R6 mark ii

@leomitchell5162

Жыл бұрын

Hey I’m thinking about getting the r6 ii , do you think a sigma 35 1.4 would be compatible

@dillank3240

Жыл бұрын

@@leomitchell5162 I use the EF mount Sigma 35mm on my EOS R. It works like an of my Canon EF lenses, probably better than on a DSLR (I bought it after I bought the R). It doesn't hunt any more than any Canon lens.

@xchinax13

Жыл бұрын

I'm thinking of getting an R6 mark ii. How's the autofocus speed using the R6 mark ii & the Sigma 85 1.4 with the adapter?. I watched a review where the Canon RF 85mm 1.2 autofocused super fast on a moving subject and was really impressed but the price tag is insane. Would you say the autofocus is fast with the r6 mark ii & the sigma 85 1.4?

@dubbleA100

Жыл бұрын

@@xchinax13 Do you shoot portraits? I've used this lens in Portraits and events and it's pretty awesome, but I will say I've had this weird issue where the camera is slow to wake up. I haven't changed the duration of time before the camera sleeps. I should try that because the battery life is very good when you mainly use the viewfinder like me. Back to your main question. It's very sharp and crisp and quick to focus.

@xchinax13

Жыл бұрын

@@dubbleA100 I used to do portraits mainly for family members & whoever asked back in the day but then life happened and I put my camera down. Want to get back into it with some upgraded gear. Thanks for the info, very helpful!

its boring because its static shots,. try both cameras in Running subjects,. lets see if sigma 85mm 1.4 can nailed it focused,. im wedding photographer,. and i hate missing any shots because of autofocused issue,. its drive me crazy when i get the best shot i needed,. then when i looked at it,. it doesn't nailed it focused,. thats why i switch from sigma 50mm 1.4 to RF 50mm 1.2,. and boi i can tell you,. both lense are sharp in the middle,. but what makes canon lenses 1.2 standout,. are in corner sharpness,. all sigma lenses are sharp in the middle,. but when you used it in group pictures at 1.4 the corner images are very soft and smuggy,. thats why you need to shoot at 2.2 or 2.5 sharp to get all the image sharp,. but in RF 50mm 1.2,. i can shot entire group picture at 1.2 with no loss details in corner sharpness,. im wedding photographer thats why its important to me that every person in my image is sharp,. when they are all in straight line horizontal,. thats the difference,. corner sharpness,. that has not been tested in this review,. a group picture of 10person,.

@michelecintramika8482

Жыл бұрын

You don't need f/1.2 for group shooting. At f/2.8 it's enough. So the Sigma costs a lot less and you can still set it to f/2.8.

@kenjiyamamoto423

Жыл бұрын

@@michelecintramika8482 no your wrong,. did you read im wedding photograher??? 1.2 is what i needed in group photos,. in weddings,. if you don't understand what im talking about,. then your amateur,.

@michelecintramika8482

Жыл бұрын

@@kenjiyamamoto423 Digital cameras have a very good ISO quality that compensates for this difference from 1.2 to 2.8. Many photographers use 24-70 2.8 or 70-200 2.8. You are making up an excuse to justify the RF 50mm f1.2. I believe you were already doing the same work before the release of this RF 50mm f1.2. Then no! This is not justification.

@kenjiyamamoto423

Жыл бұрын

​@@michelecintramika8482 lol,. prime lenses ang sharper than zoomlense,. specially when it comes to corner sharpness,. probably your broke,. thats why you dont have RF 1.2 lenses,. i have 28-70 f2, RF50 1.2, 85mm 1.2, 135mm 1.8,. i don't use shitty 2.8 lenses,.

I am absolutely blown away with my Sigma. I changed over from shooting Nikon (D850) to Sony (A7RIV) and I had the original 85mm art on my Nikon. It was an excellent lens but this new version is just insane.

Were you using EFCS? Something is off..I had done this comparison and the 1.2 RF has a more clear advantage in smoother bokeh than this.

Many thanks, Alex, for this excellent video with a perfect comparison between the two lenses and the access to the Raw-files. I love to work with the RF 85mm F1.2, however, I must say, the Sigma 85mm 1.4 is no slouch, indeed. It's a fantastic option. Too bad, it's not available in RF-Mount, yet. We all hope, Canon will allow third company glass in the near future.

@RockPolitics

Жыл бұрын

Ummm... you do realiaze that it's only auto-focus lenses that Canon has stopped (for now)? SIgma and Tamron could jump in any time with some with manual focus RF lenses. Venus Laowa has just announced that they are about to release some manual focus lenses with RF mount. So why doesn't Sigma/Tamron jump in and do something nice for their customers and release RF manual focus lenses? Could it be because they don't think it will be profitable enough for them? And isn't that exactly the thing people are crying about with Canon?

@felipecastro8668

Жыл бұрын

@@RockPolitics You are right; however, I am not the owner of Canon nor a shareholder. If Canon makes a profit, I get nothing. I have to think like a customer. In this case, the best option today as a customer is to go to Sony to be able to use the lens that I think is best for me. Did you understand?

Would have loved to know how the auto focus hit quote is with the adapted sigma ef lens

Great analysis thanks. I think this is third party situation could turn out to be a bad business decision by Canon! I have been a Canon shooter for over 20 years and recently switched to Sony due to the availability of smaller, less expensive lens options (I cannot carry around as much gear as I used to). If this situation continues, Canon will capture professional shooters, but loose advanced amateurs who want fine glass but need additional smaller, cheaper options. In my opinion, this is one reason Sony's share of the full frame mirrorless market continues to grow.

@windriver456

2 ай бұрын

That exactly why I am also switching away from Canon after 20+ years, to Panasonic in my case.

The A7iv front focuses a lot. The eye auto focus is not great.

@M4TR1X

Жыл бұрын

Sadly most of cinematic portrait videos i saw are not in focus on the eyes. Sadly. Anyway what do you shoot with?

Canon’s colors are warmer and I prefer them.

I'm 9 months out on my comments. I've been away from dslr/Rf type cameras for several years (I bought 3 Sigma Merrell's and have been so captured on what I was getting on IQ. I had a Pentax WA lens adaptor for 21), 28, 45, 70mm so I rocked for awhile at around 45mp. Ok back to the Canon for budget I'm shooting the R7 and what I'm finding is with adaptor I shoot my EF glass I forget it's there and feel no lack not shooting RF glass. I do have the 50 1.8 RF to bias off. As for 85mm I have the 85 1.8 EF which focuses much faster than the 85 1.2 and the keeper rate at 1.2 can be limiting. So if I look at the 2 limits the Sigma 1.4 looks to be where I go. How is it on AF speed.?

I just bought the R6 Mark II and EF Sigma Art 50 1.4. WOW this is the sharpest lens I've ever owned. Head to head with the RF 50 1.2 this is VERY close and it cost 1/3 the price. Not only that the Sigma is smaller (even with the EF R adapter), and focuses faster than the both the RF 50mm lenses. It sucks that there are no third party lenses for RF but unlike Sony and Nikon, the adapted lenses on RF work actually better than they did natively on DSLRs, and are on par with the RF lenses. I also got the Sigma 14-24 2.8 and it cost 1/2 of the RF 15-35 and is wider and just as sharp. Also for those of us in Canada, the Sigma lenses have 7 year warranties vs 1 year for the expensive Canon RF lenses. I had really considered the A7IV but the terrible 4K60 crop and the eye AF issues that you (and others) reported with the A7IV, along with the poor LCD and ergos made me wait to get the R6, but then the R6 II came out for slightly cheaper (here) than the A7IV so it was a no brainer!

@77dris

Жыл бұрын

I just downloaded the raw files and I love that you provide them. People talk about megapixels but when I output both to 32.7 MP (the A7IV native res), the R6 II files look sharper (when both nail focus). It just goes to show that megapixels can be overrated and glass and bang on autofocus will more than make up for any difference. Thanks again for the raw files!

@cooloox

Жыл бұрын

I have the same Sigma Art lenses as you, plus a few more. They are the best value-for-money lenses out there. I think we get a 2 year warranty on Sigma, here in Australia, but a 5 year warranty on all Canon bodies and lenses.

@77dris

Жыл бұрын

@@cooloox Wow! 5 years on the bodies? Insane. Just 1 year hear for Canon bodies and lenses. 7 Year for Sigma and 10 Year for Tamron! I did have the Sigma 85 Art when I had the 5D IV. It was supposed to be stellar but that was the only Sigma Art lens that didn't impress me. Either I had a bad copy, or the AF on the 5D IV with the Sigma just kept missing. But the 35, 14-24 and 50 are the best lenses I've ever used. I've compared images from the RF 15-35 (and the Sony 16-35 GM) and they are not any better optically than the Sigma 14-24... at least when compared to the first one I had. The micro detail at 14mm 2.8 was insane and the micro contrast too.

Canon has that extra mile in that "dreamy" effect in comparison with the sigma. Check out the last photo, the subject stands out better with the background being more hazy and soft and creamy.. Is it night and day? of course not. The most annoying thing IMO about the canon is the size and the cost.. 2 points i want to make out. 1st. Canon doesn't have 85 1.4 RF alternative to outrank the sigma, because it would outrun the sales of the 85 1.2 2nd Canon needs to understand that for being a solid 9 out of 10 is cool but other manufactures are almost 9 to 10 with half the price in their products, and by blocking the third party "collaboration" makes it even harder to catch sony's fleet with lenses and sigma's fleet as well. And no, that third part EF mount with an RF adaptor cancels out the whole mirrorless idea. Smaller bodies smaller lenses.. where are they?

You seem to be shoot a 1.2 and 1.4 wide open at the same shutter speed, does that make sense as a comparison, you have the difference in F stops, i would feel better if you were shooting both with the same exact conditions to get comparable results

what about continuous autofocus and stabilizing in video?

With any technology it is like that, that starting from low quality to high quality tools, price will not rise accordingly to quality offered, but exponentially. This means that as close to the perfection, as sharper the price gain it will be. There may be small differences between RF 85/1.2 and other brands, but at this point, those tiny differences will boost the cost of making such lens 2-3x compared to the other one.

I've only ever had one Sigma lens, when the AF failed no repair was possible as no spare parts were available. Since then I've only ever bought Canon and Zeiss lenses.

Thanks a lot for your video! I'm owner of Sigma Art 85/1.4 and Sigma Art 50/1.4. I'll wait a bit with Canon RF 85/1.2 after watching this video, due to it's a same quality for higher price but still no image stabiliser (as Tamron 85/1.8).

Canon's decision has also resulted in me not upgrading to an R-series camera from my SL1. the cost of their 85mm here in Canada is just under $4900 all-in with a 31% currency exchange rate. With the cost of the R6 being also close to $5000 with an accessory bag and cleaning kit we top out at just of $10,000 dollars! For a Camera and lens! So, no I don't think so. I am still considering moving to an SL3 which I can do for just under $1,000 and keep my three EF series lenses. I do some nature photography and casual street photography of people and custom cars. Since this is not an income producing situation but for fun and interest, I cannot justify the eye entering price of R-series.

I have a couple of nicer Canon EF lenses such as the 24-70 2.8 II and the 70-200 2.8 II and they’re fantastic. I use them with an adapter with an R6. But when it came time to buy a 35 1.4, I couldn’t justify the cost for the Canon 35 1.4 II so I thought I’d try a Tamron 35 1.4 SP. And WOW! That thing blew me away. I’ve never tried the Canon but I’d find it hard to believe that it’s not 95% of it for 50% of the cost. It nails focus just as well as any Canon that I’ve tried and the contrast is stunning. Canon, not opening up its RF mount, is probably one of the better decisions they’ve made, even if it made people jump ship.

Sigma Art series pushed me into Full Frame. That said, I did buy one GM too.

Muchas gracias

yes but third party lenses on sony body have very low fps but not limited on canon.

Great video. But I can see some differences especially at middle range (look at 10min or 10:20). The sigma bokeh is "vibrant" while the canon is creamy. However the sigma is a great lens for sure but still one stemp below and most people won't see the difference. One more thing has to be said. Autofocus... Sony bridles the sigma lenses. You cannot reach the maximum burst (frame per second) on mechanical shutter. And there are more clamping for video.

Front focusing problem might be an issue with Sony a7iv, and not sigma 85.

@proksalevente

Жыл бұрын

There was a firmware update that was supposed to fix it. Though I've noticed similar behavior with my old 85mm 1.8 on my sony a7r3 before, but that lens was a soft copy. Looks like I'm going to be picking up a Sigma 85 1.4 and I will test it out.

Summertime the lens flare looks nice other times it does not work.

What about the Samyang/Rokinon 85mm f/1.4 for $500-700? One of the few 3rd party lenses that work with RF mount. Would love to see a comparison against both of these.

@ABarrera

Жыл бұрын

I did that one a while back, feel free to check it out :)

@77dris

Жыл бұрын

You can't officially buy those now that Canon put the hammer down on third party AF lenses.

@k3kkus0

Жыл бұрын

@@77dris That's unfortunate. Love my R6 and RF lenses, but the lack of third party lenses will inevitably cause stagnation in Canon's future lens lineup.

comparison between 135mm f/1.8 from both Sigma & Canon is warranted now, after this that can further expose Canon's over-priced & under-performing lenses I am an Ex-Canon-shooter having sold my 8 year old 6D last year now I own only 1 camera + 1 lens Leica M10P *white* + 50 summilux was considering Canon EOS R3 + RF 135mm or RF 70-200 f/4 or RF 100-500mm & another wide prime but have a change of mind after watching this video it could be Fuji or Hasselblad medium format tired of 35mm format 3:2 aspect ratio 4:3 is better for composition / framing esp. portraiture & landscape squarish better than wide/rectangle

@albertma5467

Жыл бұрын

I also shoot the M10 and 50 lux (not the white one, I wish I have one). M10 is great if you are a low volume shooter, I need Canon RF system for events like when I need to shoot 2000 plus photos. Canon RF system is amazing. But the first gen lenses are flawed. They chase technical specs rather than balance and perfection like Leica. Canon knows this that is why they have to produce a DS version of 85 1.2, while they can make a 1.2 lens, the bokeh is flawed. I have looked seriously into Hasselblad, I just feel it is slow and it is even more of a niche camera than M10. Canon RF is clearly better for landscape, wildlife, and any fast action than Leica M. I have owned sigma lenses, they feel like clinical tools with no soul.

@chirag4

Жыл бұрын

​@@albertma5467 really appreciate your views, thanks for sharing some Voigtlander counterparts are better than Leica lenses which are your fav Leica & Canon RF lenses ?

Here in the UK they cost (Prices include tax) Canon = £3059/$3797 Sigma = £999/$1240 Makes the Sigma even more impressive.

@77dris

Жыл бұрын

What are the warranties there? Here you only get 1 year for Canon and 7 years for Sigma (Canada)!

Not only are you not getting double the value, you aren’t even getting equal value. The Sigma is better.

Amazing Sigma is doing good job man. I got A Canon RF 85mm 1.2 DS one its one of the best lenses I've ever used, maybe the RF lenses might last longer.

so the point is canon afraid of the 3rd party lens because canon just doesnt trust them to live up the standard of RF systems such as nailing the focus

@ABarrera

Жыл бұрын

The Canon also missed focus.

@mbismbismb

Жыл бұрын

@@ABarrera not as much as sigma missed focus on r6ii in other wildlife photograher youtube channel

@johnw.3636

Жыл бұрын

No, they're afraid because there is little difference in quality, but there is a huge difference in price.

@mbismbismb

Жыл бұрын

@@johnw.3636 any evidence ?

@johnw.3636

Жыл бұрын

@@mbismbismb Do you have evidence for your assertions? Show me your evidence for your claims and I'll show you mine... and I'm not talking about a link to someone else's KZread video. 🙄

i have the RF 50 , i would not say it is a perfect lens. If Sigma had an RF 85 i would probably get. Though, my all-time favorite lens is the FUji GF 110/2

@ABarrera

Жыл бұрын

I compared the Sigma to the 110 and was surprised on how similar they performed.

Man, I’ll be the first to wax poetic about rendering and low element count but these are two beautiful lenses. From a size weight cost perspective that sigma 85 is the crown jewel of anyone on the L mount (save for those bulky and expensive Leicas).

Winner - Canon RF 85mm 1.2. Better control of flare, better bokeh, sharper. It renders flare much better than the sigma. But, for half the price I would take the Sigma. I am looking to get a RF 85mm 1.2 myself though. XD

If your on a budget for a Sony/Sigma then get that and enjoy, Canon/Canon Rf lenses are more money It’s up you and where you spend your money

You should have written "DN" in the title; when comparing a Canon lens, I was expecting the "Sigma 85mm 1.4" to be the DSLR's Canon mount version. Comparing lenses on different bodies has no sense.

Yeah, if I would have to start over, I’d choose Sony… But, I love my R5 and RF 85 1.2!

@mjztx

Жыл бұрын

Agree. I’d go Sony if I was starting over. For now though I love my R6 and RF 50mm 1.2!

@ABarrera

Жыл бұрын

That’s still a killer combo!

@Francisfphoto_

Жыл бұрын

@@mjztx oh yeah! I also love my RF 24-70 and RF 50 1.2!!!

@joetrent4753

Жыл бұрын

I went with Sony back in 2019 simply because other systems weren't as mature yet and Sony had a decent amount of third party lenses, many you still now can't get for other camera systems.

@albertma5467

Жыл бұрын

I have shot Sony, Canon, and Nikon. And the only thing that matter are the quality of lenses. I’m currently shooting Canon RF because there is no other system that has the killer combo of RF 28-70 f2, RF 50 1.2, and RF 85 1.2. The RF 15-35 2.8 and 70-200 2.8 is also mind-numbingly good. And the ergonomics of R5 is so much better than Sony. Sony is refreshing their lenses slowly and it will be a while before they can match Canon’s RF L line up.

that 0.2 difference in f stop really show itself when you have busy background, the Canon bokeh is so much more satisfying to look at, it looks dreamier. The Sigma 1.4 although does well when the background is clean and clear of obstructions but when theres a lot of grass and light hitting the grass on the background it started to look messy and fuzzy. Some of the shot the Sigma 1.4 look so fuzzy that its distracting. Also I strongly disagree with you about Canon stopping 3rd party lenses because they are afraid of it, it's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard of. All of this is about Canon trying to cash in on their RF lenses and trying to get the pros to adopt all their high-end L series lenses first. Look at the line up of lenses that they've been releasing, majority are L lenses, most are long telephotos at high prices. They are clearly not aiming at the average consumers; some lenses like the Trinity Zoom and Primes enthusiasts can benefit from. But it's clear that they are catering to the high-end shooters first. With the upcoming Olympic around the corner, Canon is pumping out all the pro series lenses for that. The longer they can monopolize the RF mount the more money they are making with people who are willing to shell out for these lenses. People who want cheaper alternatives, Canon trying to buy time and keep them on board by selling adapters. Adapters is the easiest money making piece of accessory for Canon. It's literally a piece of extension that has no glass inside and cost 100-400$ depends on the version you got. Almost everyone who came from DSLR bought an adapter for their EF lenses. That is easy money making right there. For almost every mirrorless body sold is every adapter sold. Once they have all the loyal shooters committed then they open the floodgates for Sigma to pull in the rest of the consumers in, which is now, since we are all hearing that Sigma got the green light from Canon already.

Waiting for Sigma to release their versions of 85mm F1.2 (DS, as well as Non-DS) for Sony bodies and price them around $1800 and $1500, respectively. That will annihilate Canon pricing policy and force it to lower their lenses' prices...!

i would love the sigma to win, i really want to save some money but from the first pictures, all the way to the last picture, i could tell exactly which lens was the canon, mainly for very simple reasons that have nothing to do to with bokeh. Every single pic, you can clearly see that the dress on canon pictures is actually white, where as the sigma has blue tone in it. The moment i saw it, i could not even unsee it for the rest of the pictures. Same goes for her skintone, mainly in the later pictures you can see that she looks dead on sigma lens compared to canon. The whole comparison may even be pointless as the sony has a different color science (not as good as canon) so it may not even be the lenses fault...

For fun and a more fair comparison, redo this series with S5ii. We know how the Canon does on a Canon body; now let’s see how the Sigma does on a Lumix body. Oh, and the Lumix has better color than Canon or Sony!

I don't believe Canon is scared of 3rd party lenses. Canon is waiting to push out their entire RF line of lenses before opening it up for 3rd party. In the meantime Canon makes all the profits on lens sales for the RF mount. It's a marketing strategy.

I'm sure Canon hates you....but they should seriously consider opening the RF to third party

Samyang 85 1.4 vs sigma 85 1.4

Canon is blocking Sigma because it wants to rebuild its brand. It wants to brand itself as high as Apple, Tesla, etc And she is allowed I believe that in two years it will open up the option for third party lenses but fear? Does not exist. More of an economic and branding decision

@aperture8983

7 ай бұрын

Canon as next Nokia....

In my opinion the 3rd party lens issue is a bit of a non story as there are plenty of 3rd party options available if you include third party EF lenses in the equation.

@johnw.3636

Жыл бұрын

But that's not what we're talking about. Quite a few people who have made the jump to mirrorless want lenses native to mirrorless.

@martinhommel9967

Жыл бұрын

@@johnw.3636 want or need?

It's definitely a smart decision from canon. They wanna protect their products just like photographers want to protect their images. Also, the current economy and inflation doesn't help canon. We are very fortunate that the dollar has increased in value and remained the same cost for the new camera like r6 ii, when the rest of the world has an increase in the camera. I'm actually grateful for canon's decision and their new discounts. It allowed me to replace all my 3rd party lenses to new rf lenses with their discount. I see it as a win win situation. Although i got by with my 3rd party lenses, I definitely appreciate the native lenses. Cheers.

@joetrent4753

Жыл бұрын

Protect their products?? I'm not sure what that even means but it sounds quite lame. Sony has the most well rounded and complete system thanks to third party lenses and is very much the number one mirrorless camera system right now. Back in the DSLR heydays both Canon and Nikon didn't share their lens focus technology and third party lenses had to be reverse engineered. It worked back then but now this is no longer the case. If Canon don't allow other lens options, it won't protect their products but will drive people to other camera systems.

@116Paul

Жыл бұрын

@@joetrent4753 Sony is the 2nd largest shareholder for Tamron. I'm sure sony will support Tamron and possibly others. Sony is great for the small size and weight. The reason I refuse to use sony for photo is because of the skin tone and color rendering. Although I shoot raw only, I transfer to my phone to share on the same day which then transfers to JPEG. I like to share unedit photos to friends and family. Once they really like something, I will edit them and some times print for them. Obviously, I don't share professional photos as jpeg, but this has saved me so much time. For video, I have no preference, although Canon has great ibis for handheld.

@joetrent4753

Жыл бұрын

@@116Paul Each to their own of course when it comes to preferred camera system. I find Sony RAW file colour is quite flat, making them excellent as a base for editing but not necessarily great if you want sooc jpegs.

@116Paul

Жыл бұрын

@@joetrent4753 yup. With editing Sony is fine. You could save your preset and save a lot of time. This is great workflow for professional work. For personal work, I mostly use unedited jpeg, straight from the camera. Canon snycs very well with smartphones and the color rendering is great out of the camera.

@albertma5467

Жыл бұрын

RF mount is Canon’s intellectual property and they can decide how they want to use it. If it is their business strategy to squeeze as much money as they can, then that it is how it’s gong to be. People can vote with their feet, like Alex defected to Sony. I never liked Sigma on my Sony e mount days. I’m too busy taking photos than worrying about Canon’s business strategy. I have zero complains about the Canon RF lens. I just buy them one at a time when I can afford to do so.

i think it's time to sell all those cameras and buy the dji pocket cam for a fraction of the sigma lens cost. Start shooting videos instead.😂

No one would buy sh*t from Canon if there are third party lenses for RF mount

Is it me, or does this guy sound a lot like Toneh?

Firsr

@kelb89

Жыл бұрын

Srcnd

@Francisfphoto_

Жыл бұрын

Thrhd

@jvincents

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Thrid

Gret video, your wife has several white hair I noticed 😁

The Sigma missed Focus ??? Well, welcome in Sigma World ! 😂 Twice left expensive...but never reliable ! ✌️

@charleneg1234

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Maybe it's the Sony body that missed focus? The R6 AF and eye-detection is really good so they say

@SEAME7

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@@charleneg1234 Maybe...but Sigma is known to be the worst in term of reliability (even with BF/FF which are supposed to disappear with the hybrid camera) ! 😳

@myspace04

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Several users complained about front focus of Sony a7iv. This may not be Sigma issue.

@kifley19

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It's an issue with the A7iv.

@SEAME7

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@@kifley19 No, it's a issue with Sigma !

It’s a temporary block. The RF mount is complete from a mechanical standpoint but not electronically. When it is complete, and it’s looking like that will be late 2024, canon already has tammy and sigma ready to go to build lenses. Just have to be patient.

@cooloox

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Where are you getting this from because Canon has publicly stated its RF mount is not open to third parties and it will sue them if they make RF lenses. They didn't say this is only for a limited time.

@Soul_Visuals_Photography

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@@cooloox I have a close friend who works at Canon Canada. All I can say is wait. He’s never been wrong before.

@cooloox

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@@Soul_Visuals_Photography I thought about what you said, after typing my comment earlier, and it makes perfect sense. When Canon did one change (firmware update) it broke the Samyang 85mm 1.4. It would be silly to have third party lenses right now if they're going to get messed up as Canon makes changes. Thanks for the information, it's much appreciated.

@Soul_Visuals_Photography

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@@cooloox I have the samyang 85 mm 1.4. After the firmware update to 1.4 you needed to update the samyang lens with the lens dock. I use this lens all the time. I love it so much I might even buy a second copy just to store in case anything happens to my current copy.

@kai64

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@@cooloox I mean it’s kind of obvious. Their statement didn’t say “they will never ever” we all know eventually they will have open the door. RF isn’t mature enough, meaning they haven’t made enough money “yet”

Well to begin with, I hate the shiny black plastic look of sigma lenses. Like the 50 1.2 and 28-70, the rf 85 1.2 is a flex lens 😂 for Canon owners. The red ring is magical 😂. When I switched from Sony to Canon RF, I love love love the flare. The camera is there to capture the light, I am happy to sacrifice sharpness for the dreamy warm sunlight that fills my frame. Also the two lenses have different barrel length and diameter so comparing the flare is kinda crazy. You can control the flare by moving the camera. Finally, all the shots are done backlit, which is fine but I would like to see more variety in future comparison, like low light, studio, off camera flash, which are bread and butter for portrait photography

@ABarrera

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Thanks for the feedback! I am a natural light photographer and all my sessions are done backlit. In a studio both will be equally as sharp, hard to introduce character when everything is controlled.

@michelecintramika8482

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Overall, Sigma is better. That is all!

R6ii is not a real camera