Xe1 and 5d classic are both my main camera, been using both for years now. 5dc had its flaw and its limitation but the image it produced its so unique. Shooting portrait with 5dc is just a pure joy, raw file that came out from 5dc is really easy to work with, white balance from this camera is always spot on , or I would say even better than xe1. While xe1 excels in lowlight situation or high contrast scene. Love using both

@ChrisEdgecombePhoto

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching an commenting, I really wanted to like the 5dc and as you can see from my video there was plenty but I think on balance I just didn't gel with the camera at all right from the offset and as I mentioned with J, I've been spoilt by the excellent X-E1 and have also just picked up an X-Pro1 to try....

I have several Canon DSLRs (including the 5D classic), analogue SLRs and compacts, and a Fuji mirrorless as well, and also tried a Nikon and Sony DSLR. After years of shooting with all of them, I can say that I prefer the (raw) pics from the 5D classic more than anything else. Its pictures has some organic, film like quality that all the other systems (I tried) lacks. Pair it with a high-quality lens and you get stellar image quality which looks like it has 3D depth in it. It's auto white balance is also spot on - the camera never failed to capture the right mood. I've used my 5D classic for nearly all of my studio works (paired with a 50mm 1.4, 85mm 1.8 or 135mm 2.0) and was never disappointed. With a good lighting setup, this camera still rocks. Especially for portrait photography. Of course it's an old system, its heavy, its screen is small and has low pixel count, its native ISO goes up to only 1600, and there are only a few autofocus points to work with... but if you seek for pure photography, this system never fails. And its battery life is just wow compared with todays mirrorless systems where you should change the batteries regularly during a full day shooting. For street or everyday use I prefer a more compact solution like the Fujifilm X100 series. It's much easier to carry around than the 5D. But that's just personal preference. At the end the 5D classic for me is still the best of its kind. It can produce stellar and natural looking images in the right hands. Personally I'm not of a big fan of the digital look which modern cameras produces. And I also enjoy its simplistic menu system too. Maybe it is one of the last cameras (along with the Nikon D700) which offers the best from both worlds (analogue and digital). If you seek that, you won't be disappointed.

@ChrisEdgecombePhoto

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for commenting. There was many aspects of the 5dc that I liked, but also many than I didn't but ultimately I just couldn't get on with it and felt anyway that I preferred the look in the main of the X-E1 images and smaller mirrorless cameras for my digital needs. I'm with you in that newer cameras tend to look too digital hence why I'm enjoying the X-E1 at the moment as it has the original xtrans1 sensor which is another one of these cameras which is supposed to produce more film like images. Certainly coupled with a decent lens like the 35mm f1.4, it seems to delivery on that front.

@Kaszman

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChrisEdgecombePhoto Yeah, I've heard that the newer X-Trans sensors produces more digital looking and sterile images. Like computer generated render graphics. Ultimately, it's a matter of taste and preference what camera one should stick to. My experience is that when I find a camera that I enjoy using and which can produce the image quality I prefer, then I shoot more and more just for pure joy. And that also helps me to grow as a photographer. I wish you to enjoy your choosen camera. Cheers :)

What I do to get full dynamic range on the 5D is to bracket my shots by one or two f-stops depending on the light conditions to help with light blow out and usually shoot in raw, and once in a while shoot Raw/Jpeg and then process the pictures in Lightroom and Photoshop. You really need understand the strength and weakness of the camera, then you can master the camera and be able to get the result you want. Maybe since I started taking pictures in 1968, way before most camera had all the electronic advantages make it more coinvent take a picture might be an advantage for me to understand and overcome short comings in older electronic cameras.

@ChrisEdgecombePhoto

Жыл бұрын

I feel like there was an issue with this camera, I've picked up a 2nd copy and as long as I underexpose a little, my shots come out looking great.

I’m sticking with older full frame DSLRs as I don’t like mirrorless & EVFs. I’ve always had lots of Nikons (& love ‘em), but I have just myself bought a Canon 5D mk2 & 50mm + 85mm. I’ve just used the new 5D2 (alongside my Nikon D700 & D3X) for a studio shoot with a model and it’s brilliant. I’m now curious to try a 5D mk1. These older Full Frame DSLRs are fantastic bargains.

@ChrisEdgecombePhoto

Жыл бұрын

Completely agree, my 2nd go at a Canon 5D has been a much more positive experience and has started to make me think about what I actually need and don't need.

I would hold on to the 5d Chris. I think you might regret letting it go.

@ChrisEdgecombePhoto

2 жыл бұрын

I just didn't get on with it so its gone back. I don't regret the decision yet. Thanks for watching.

Shocking 7 years later sensors are better and technology advances. The 5D classic does indeed have a diopter adjustment unlike the Fuji X-pro 1 which does not. All early Canon sensors are limited in dynamic range quite extremely, so one must make the choice for preserving highlights or shadows or to bracket according to situation, intent and possibilities. The 5D classic is very limited in some ways but it has a sensor unique to its time and one can indeed tweak the colors for jpegs in camera and get quite nice images. The limited number of megapixels ensures it will always have less resolution than later sensors and lots less than even the first generation X-pro-1 stuff. Canon routinely chooses heavily against moire, likely due to wedding photography and the like, Fuji chooses worms if we are honest. I do not dispute your experience with the 5D classic it is a first generation, first of its kind full frame sensor available to the general public made years before the Fuji you are using. One must appreciate each camera and lens for what it is, like people they are all different more competent for this or that. But in many ways the 5D is a bit hyped and has a bit of a cult status; which is indeed fine since you will never ever be able to duplicate the images from the 5D classic except by using one. Think of it as a specific film for specific things. Also, in HD I did prefer many of the 5D images which sacrificed the shadows for the highlights. Some of the Fuji renderings in those initial images seemed to over-compensate for lifting shadows. By the way lifting shadows in early Canon cameras is not really a thing since those sensors are very strict with the ISO. I wish it had automatically variable ISO settings. But that old 5D compared to any film camera is quite a big step forward. By the way, when the mirror falls off, and it probably will, 4 tiny drops of super glue and a 24 hour wait will keep it in place for YEARS to come.

@ChrisEdgecombePhoto

2 жыл бұрын

I just didn't get on with it. I know the sensor is older but that didn't bother me as I'm keen to explore cameras which render images in a special way. For me at the moment, the early Fuji's seem to deliver that and also in a package that I guess I'm my familiar and comfortable with at the moment. The viewfinder on the X-Pro 1 is better than I was expecting even when wearing glasses. Thanks for watching.

You really need the good Canon glass to make the camera shine. There is a lot of mediocre Canon glass that doesn’t perform well at all. Try the 40mm 2.8. That’s quite a nice and affordable lens. Very good image quality. I use it on my 5d II and it’s worth it. I’ll be keeping that combo and probably won’t be adding any other Canon lenses. I also have the 50mm 18 and it’s very good. Honestly I thought some of your Canon shots turned out better than the Fuji ones. Some didn’t but many did. If it doesn’t work for you then return it but to me it looks as though you haven’t learned the camera yet. You already know the Fuji.

@ChrisEdgecombePhoto

2 жыл бұрын

As I was just trying it out I was really relcutant to spend any more on decent glass; I had heard good things about the latest 50mm f1.8 STM lens which I purchased seperately but it just didn't work out for me. Yes some of the shots were better but as I tried to say in the video, I was trying extra hard with the Canon and not paying as much attention to the settings on the Fuji and besides I just could not overcome the issues I was having with the highlights/metering blowing out on the Canon, something I definately don't worry about so much with the X-E1. Thanks for watching and commenting.

You did the right thing returning the Canon 5D Classic. From your deliberations I gathered; you didn’t buy this camera due to its signature attributes. Since this is your first DSLR, I expected you to tilt towards the Fuji. Now, images from the newer digital cameras pack extreme clarity, details and sharpness. That’s a typical digital property. The Fujifilm X-E1 pixels are tiny compared the Canon, captures less light and produces noise. All these shortcomings are smothered by the in-camera processor in order to attract clients. On the other hand, Canon 5D Classic is loved by senior photographers who have seen enough of digital images and yearn for something soothing to the eyes, something filmic. These images are short of extreme sharpness and clarity. However, they display lovely colors and silky smoothness found in the outputs of film SLRs.

@ChrisEdgecombePhoto

Жыл бұрын

I've actually bought another 5Dc and I'm enjoying that one more at present. Thanks.

@quazisanjeed6395

Жыл бұрын

@@ChrisEdgecombePhoto, nice to know. I'm Canon user since long. Have tried Nikon also by borrowing from fellow photographer friends. That brand is also great. But no respect for toyish Sony cameras. And Fuji never appealed to me. If you want real filmic images without in-camera manipulations; Canon 5DC and Nikon D700 are the cameras that can deliver. Thanks.

10 days are absolutely not enough to understand the 5D and use it's full potential.. The user behind it makes the difference like in the old photography days. Limitation of Autofocus and Dynamic range need to be understood to predict the picture right. Sad to hear this feedback, about the first Canon entry level full frame camera (from 2005! and it's obvious limitation we know). Image quality and color are great, iso 1600 a lot of times very usable. It has own limitation but doesn't limit the creativity at all. Of course has to be used with Raw files, like with film you need to develop properly the image.. Jpg are only a shortcut on these old cameras and not a great "goto" option. The world nowadays runs too fast.. And it's not a plus most of the time. By keeping the 5D you'll understand it and it'll help also to improve your photography on the xe1 you prefer. Ps With proper Canon L glasses image quality will shine.

@ChrisEdgecombePhoto

2 жыл бұрын

I'm sure if you spend the time and effort you will get great results out of it but I knew that it just wasn't going to be for me and when comparing the results to X-E1; I just preferred the look I got out of that camera with minimal effort. If I want an old photography experience, I'll just shoot film.

Look at the colors at 9:24 from the 5D versus the X-e1. There's a clear difference in these two photos.

@ChrisEdgecombePhoto

10 ай бұрын

Definitely between those two yes, thanks for the comment.

Maybe not a conclusive comparison, no-one says the 5D jpegs cut the mustard. It's forte is with sunlit portraits, shooting RAW with a few of the breathed on lenses like the EF L 135mm F2. If you still have some 5D RAW files try DXO DeepPrime conversion....

@ChrisEdgecombePhoto

Жыл бұрын

Hi ZD, I bought a 5D again a few months back to give it another go. Getting much better results with it this time around, maybe there was something wrong with my first copy...

Excellent review. I used to prefer the Canon DSLRs. But once I had switched to mirrorless I never wanted to go back to SLR. To be fair, I think that the sensor on the 5D is just way too old to be a match to the Fuji.

@ChrisEdgecombePhoto

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks J, I really wanted to like it but I've just been spoilt by the X-E1 and mirrorless cameras in general for being more compact over the years.

Just picked up a 5d off ebay and still playing with vintage lens. Admittedly the 5d has less dynamic range than the fugi but the color differences between cameras may be more due to settings and the olympus glass which has more vibrant colors. Good you returned if you were not happy but I think the results would be a bit closer with more use. Cheers

@ChrisEdgecombePhoto

10 ай бұрын

Agree, I bought another one 😁

So many comments here about the 5D mkii… why? Completely different camera, sensor, colours and built more for video. Please stop people.. this video is regarding the original 5D! It’s a shame you didn’t get on with this, but it’s a 2005 design and a dinosaur in camera years. I’ve still got one, I’ve had four. Later serial numbers have a clearer, newer screen but the mirror issue remained. They all needed a recall for the extra rails. It’s one of those cameras you just need to learn. I have Fujifilms too and using them just feels too easy it’s almost cheating. Full frame isn’t a myth either. It’s maths and science! Cheers.

@ChrisEdgecombePhoto

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comments and trying to back me up 😁; cheers.

I own 5dc, 6d, sony nex-6, nikon d700, and 50d. the 5dc colors are so nice and 12mp is just perfect. 5dc never disappoints, especially with how too hyper real digital cameras are now

@ChrisEdgecombePhoto

2 жыл бұрын

I did like the colours when an image came out well; I just struggled with it personally.

I have the 5D classic, X-Pro1 and XE-1. I don't use the Fuji stuff anymore. Settings: iso 100, RAW , +1/3 exposure compensation etc. I have never shot jpegs on my 5D, so I can't comment on their quality.

@ChrisEdgecombePhoto

2 жыл бұрын

I'm trying out these cameras as they are supposed to produce some great SOOC jpegs, organic in feel and I just couldn't get the hang of the 5D; the output from the Fuji's were better for me, more consistent.

@peoplez129

Жыл бұрын

@@ChrisEdgecombePhoto You really can't rely on the 5D for SOOC. It can do some decent SOOC's at times, but it doesn't hold a candle to RAW file editing. Of course the benefit to Fuji is they do have better SOOC and it's effortless. But where the 5D really shines is when you have a lot of small color detail differences, like a landscape with tree's during autumn, where there are subtle shades of color differences in the leafs. Bracketing is also much more important on the 5D in high dynamic range scenes. But you also didn't really take advantage of the main point of full frame: DOF. The 5D can shoot at f/16 before diffraction even starts to set in. Now what you can do is use the picture style editor program to make your own picture styles for SOOC. So you can have a SOOC designed specifically for bright daylight shots where you want the highlights brought down or the shadows raised, depending on what you're typically exposing for. So you'd take an image you typically take, load it into the picture style editor, edit it how you want it to look, and save the picture style and load it into the camera with the program. The problem is, the program to do that only runs in windows 98, so you have to run it through a virtual machine. Or you could simply save the picture style and use Canon's editor. But really, it's just better to edit photo's in lightroom, as the Canon colors aren't anything super special in this day and age. One issue with SOOC on the 5D, is they all have automatic noise reduction that can't be adjusted. So you simply aren't getting the fidelity you would from RAW. And it's likely a compressed JPEG as well, because the JPEG's aren't that big in file size. So SOOC simply isn't the way to go.

@ChrisEdgecombePhoto

Жыл бұрын

@@peoplez129 I completely agree, I have even turned of Jpegs on my 2nd Canon 5D that I've just purchased to give this camera another go with and will be just shooting RAW and controlling the highlights better using the histogram. This 2nd version though that I've purchased does seem better to use in that it doesn't blow out the highlights quite as easily so perhaps the copy I used in this video was not very well.... I also agree that the shallow DOF that you can achieve from this camera is amazing, the subjects literally pop out of the screen IMO.

Do you have a portfolio of your own photography that can be viewed online ?

@ChrisEdgecombePhoto

Жыл бұрын

I tend to just keep my favourite images these days on flickr - www.flickr.com/photos/edgec/ I don't consider all of these to be portfolio worthy but I like them nevertheless. No Canon 5D images in there yet! Thanks for watching.

I still use the 5d mkii. Awesome video

@ChrisEdgecombePhoto

2 жыл бұрын

I just couldn't get on with it and have been spoiled by the X-E1. Thanks for watching and commenting.

You might have bought a 5D with defective Lightmeter. It happened to me to, with my 2nd 5D. All shots are usually around 2/3 EV up to 2 EV being blown out. Unfortunately, Canon doesn't service the 5D anymore. That means also, you won't get the Mirrorfix anymore, which Canon acknoledged and issued a Service Statement into spring 2009. Early 5D Models (but physically all) could loose the mirror inside the mirrorbox, because the adheasive detoriates, looses its grip, within the mirror was being glued into the mirrorbox. I have a high and low 5D serial number.

@ChrisEdgecombePhoto

2 жыл бұрын

I bought it from a reputable company that sells camera equipment here in the UK (mpb) so I had to trust that they didn't sell me a dud as its in their interest to properly test equipment that comes to them before selling it on. I made sure that the serial number was one beforehand that was not affected by the mirror issue and see my previous point. Thanks for watching and commenting.

@marcp.1752

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChrisEdgecombePhoto Eben mpb can sell you shit - if they don't test it properly, like every other reseller.

@johnjon1823

2 жыл бұрын

Mine had the mirror fall off more than a couple years ago. Re-glued it with 4 tiny spots of super glue, a little pressure for 30 seconds, let dry 24 hours face up into the air. Mirror still attached and working nicely years later. Mine was an early model, in a serial number range supposedly not affected by the defect in mirror adhesive, they were wrong.

Interesting comparison. I have a 5D and use it fairly often and in the past, I had an x100 and a x100S (on two occasions). Someone already pointed out a minor error regarding the diopter adjustment for the OVF. And I think you said that you were initially not aware of how to apply exposure compensation. I am not criticizing; any camera takes some time to learn. My only point is that 10 days may not be enough time to learn the unique features of an unfamiliar camera. And then there is the discussion of “bugs” vs. features. E. G. Is lack of auto ISO a positive or a negative? I have a lot of respect for Fuji Bayer and x trans sensor technology but I think the 5D results could have been better in this comparison. Shooting raw would have helped also. You certainly don’t lack knowledge of photography, so that is not an issue. The 5D is a large heavy camera with a shutter that makes a cool and satisfying (but not discrete) ka-chunk sound. So it is not going to interest many photographers. But for some of us, it still delivers!

@ChrisEdgecombePhoto

Жыл бұрын

I've since bought another 5D as 10 days wasn't enough time and this copy seems to perform much much better than the one I used here and I'm really enjoying the results. I will probably do a follow up video in due course. Thanks for the comments. I only shoot raw with the 5D now.

Most of the time on my 5D I Shoot RAW with Auto WB and use the default settings for Sharpness, saturation etc. When I shoot Jpeg then I will look at the scene and adjust the WB/Colour temp/sharpness etc settings and select what I think is appropriate - either way this camera can produce fantastic sharp , contrasty images with wonderful colour. I have had two 5d's over the last 8 years and I will say it took me about 3000 shots over a 4 month period on the first one to really understand the camera and get the best out of it. I think it's a camera you have to spend a lot of time with and you will be rewarded if you persevere. I have had many other cameras over the years including the one you have but I would never swap my 5d for an XE-1 - but that's my personal taste ! 😁

@ChrisEdgecombePhoto

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. I did try really hard and shot RAW (+JPEG) and I still didn't really have much luck with the images. I love the X-E1 so much, I've just bought its bigger brother too, the X-Pro1.

Sad to see you weren't happy with it. I sold my Canon RP for the 5D classic, and I didn't regret it. It feels a lot nicer to use, and the files are way easier in filesize and editing.

@ChrisEdgecombePhoto

Жыл бұрын

I've since bought a 2nd one to have another go with it. I'm getting much better results so maybe this first body was defective.

@walkwithme2700

Жыл бұрын

@@ChrisEdgecombePhoto nice to hear that my brother

@card-joker5301

Жыл бұрын

​@@ChrisEdgecombePhotois the Video obsolet then?

@ChrisEdgecombePhoto

Жыл бұрын

@@card-joker5301 Not really, I discuss other aspects. I'll probably do an update at some point.

❤ your 5D-Shots ❤

@ChrisEdgecombePhoto

6 ай бұрын

Thank you, more to follow hopefully with my 2nd Canon 5D.....

I am disheartened that the 5D didn't live up to your hopes. I've read at least one other review with similar sentiments, but they have a commonality, the 50mm 1.8 STM. I own a 5D and a 50mm 1.8 STM and I love the pair, but with the caveat that it's not the right setup for all situations. I also have the EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM and it's a much more versatile setup that delivers spectacular results that you can pick up for around $100. I would also suggest the EF 28-80mm f/3.5-5.6 USM as another alternative around the same price point. But then again if you're happy with the results you're getting from your Fuji kit, stick with that, it's hard to switch and adapt to a new system without being highly motivated!

@ChrisEdgecombePhoto

Жыл бұрын

I may have been hasty, I've tried another and I'm enjoying it much more 2nd time around. Maybe the first one I tried was faulty. I've since bought the 28-105 and the 50mm f2.5 macro as well as a OM to EF adapter and an EE-S focusing screen

@philrmcknight

Жыл бұрын

@@ChrisEdgecombePhoto The 28-105 is another terrific lens at a great price. Take more time with the 5D and it might just sneak into being your favorite camera!

I've got to say......................get good distance or separation from your subject and background, shoot wide open. I get that it's old school but I get results that make me smile. Forget the display, don't chimp, just use it for exposure histo. Look up Patrick Chondon on youtube, a very good example of what the Classic and 50mm f 1.8 can achieve.

@ChrisEdgecombePhoto

2 жыл бұрын

I guess in the end I just enjoyed using the Fuji X-E1 more at the time and struggle with it less. Thanks for watching.

Hi. I'm not sure of your comparisons here. Obviously the Fuji images were shot at different settings than the 5D. For a fair showing the same settings should be used. I do agree eith the highlights easily being blown out, you just have to keep that in mind when shooting.

@ChrisEdgecombePhoto

Жыл бұрын

I've since bought and loving a 2nd 5Dc; I think the first one was faulty.

I'm copying you 1 year after - lol. Got a "new" 1800 shutter count body yesterday for about 245 GBP eqv. and ordered a £45 50mm 1.8 II today. As I have 3 EF lenses already, I hope my experience will be different. Going back in time is fun! Cheers!

@ChrisEdgecombePhoto

Жыл бұрын

I did actually buy a 2nd one and my experience has been more positive so maybe there was something wrong with the first one. Thanks for the comment and good luck with the camera.

Thanks for the video Chris, I have an XE-1 and a 5D mk ii. Both are great and I appreciate the points you bring up, well thought out. The 5D mk ii adds some of the missing features but yes it is still an older camera compared to todays models. Keep up the good work.

@ChrisEdgecombePhoto

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mark, glad you enjoyed it.

Kind of comparing apples to oranges and then saying you don't like oranges. The magic if the 5d is the raw files, not the out of camera jpgs.

@ChrisEdgecombePhoto

Жыл бұрын

I agree now, have since repurchased another 5D which I am enjoying more and shooting RAW only.

@RetroRockGamer

Жыл бұрын

@Chris Edgecombe great video though. 👍☺️

I must say i like the Canon Colors more. But that`s only me.

@ChrisEdgecombePhoto

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. The colours from the canon were good and the monochrome images were good too, I just couldn't stop the highlights from blowing out.

@arunashamal

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChrisEdgecombePhoto 5D works like film... unlike modern digital on 5D you can pull down highlights quite a lot. better than any modern digital sensor. Shadows are dog shit. I'd never worry bit of overexposure on 5dClassic on highlights. You just need to get the shadows right.

@ChrisEdgecombePhoto

2 жыл бұрын

@@arunashamal I really did try (I shoot film as well) but I just couldn't get the hang of it.

Chris, in case you haven't noticed, Richard Barley has done extensive coverage on the 5D and according to him, blowing the highlights is the way to photograph with 5D classic. I can not speak substantively about it since i haven't done that much shooting with it, however my initial feeling is that the 5Dclassic is quite comparable to Fuji Xtrans first and second genaration and the Nikon D700. Fantastic image colors that is making me sell the D7100. kzread.infovideos

@ChrisEdgecombePhoto

Жыл бұрын

Spoiler alert, I've bought a Canon 5D again as I don't think I gave it enough time before. This copy seems better in that I rarely blow the highlights now 😉, it's still a big heavy beast though 😁.

@utube321piotr

Жыл бұрын

@@ChrisEdgecombePhoto excellent, also of note my 5Dclassic does have the diopter adjustment, which you mentioned in video you did not have; I am a glasses wearer however for shotting I typically take them off

@ChrisEdgecombePhoto

Жыл бұрын

@@utube321piotr My first one did have the diopter adjustment it just wasn't good enough my bad eyesight (limited adjustment).

@philiphunter3966

Жыл бұрын

Looking forward to seeing how you get along with the 5D this time around. I just bought one for the 3rd time. Know what you mean about the raw file being ‘better’ than the jpeg. I’ve never used the in-camera B&W but always liked how the raw looked with a mono conversation.

@northof-62

Жыл бұрын

Yeah - same with 40D. Amazing how much of apparently blown highlights could be saved.

No offense, but to me this seems akin to someone that's learned to drive an automatic car jumping into an older "classic" manual car. If you've never driven a manual car you won't be able to take full advantage of what it has to offer from the get go. Because it is at the manual setting and full image metering (with the setting: [ ] whatever it is called, I can't remember) where this camera truly shines. I find it to be very true to how film cameras function in terms of how it meters, but also in the way it renders the file/image. It doesn't have the dynamic range of a modern digital camera - but to me, that's part of it's appeal (like you mentioned, a lot of modern cameras look way to clean and almost artificial in their rendering and I tend to agree). You really have to shoot the camera (and honestly every camera) in RAW to get the fill benefit of and control over the "negative", as someone else pointed out in another comment. Looking at your photos I actually thought the 5d outdid the xe in most, if not all (properly exposed) shots (especially in terms of a more natural (filmesque) property. I sincerely hope you don't feel slammed by this comment. I just wished to share my experience and lend some explanation to your troubles with this camera. I got my first one in 2008 and it took some getting used to at first, coming from my more user/beginner friendly canon 350d but it's a great camera after you've taken the time to get to know it. It's dials are placed very intuitively and to me it's a wonder to work with in order to focus on the image. A tip to anyone getting this camera, sunny 16 and cloudy 8 are great tools to get into the ballpark of the correct settings imo. Good luck with future trials. Maybe a 5d mark II next? Although the colours of the mark II are a little more subdued.

@ChrisEdgecombePhoto

2 жыл бұрын

I appreciate the comments. I was tempted by the Canon 5D as I had heard/seen lots of reports about how good the SOOC jpegs were and whilst some of what I was able to achieve was pleasing, I just felt like I got better (and easier) results out of the Fuji X-E1. I'm sure if you put the time in, you can get good results out of anything (hell I'm trying to use a plastic DIY TLR at the moment).....

@TheDavveponken

2 жыл бұрын

Chris Edgecombe Wow that would be a feat :p Speaking of twin reflex cameras (which I gathered you are?) the Yashica-C or equivalent is an excellent cheaper one (at least when I got it ten years ago). Personally I'd say close to par to a Hasselblad, except for sharpness I guess.

@ChrisEdgecombePhoto

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheDavveponken It's s DIY build a TLR kit. I also have a Yashica TLR.

Your XE1 did better only in Dynamic range ,sure thing it has F1-2 higher dynamic range , but its not like 5D cant do it , it just requires a bit more dedication with Bracketing . And then Landscape done with bracketing , XE1 would not be better in anything worth mentioning. But do a bit of portrait which is what 5D was made for , it will be better then XE1 , no adjustment needed

@ChrisEdgecombePhoto

2 жыл бұрын

I just preferred the look of the Fuji that I was able to achieve more consistently; I personally struggled to get the same consistency from the 5D.

@dedskin1

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChrisEdgecombePhoto Yeah its the consistency of Dynamic range , Fuji has 2 stops higher DR and it has damn good colors nothing wrong with that . But that wont stop a skilled photographer just take ND filter shadow the sky , and there you go 3 stops of dynamic range added to the camera , and now it has more DR then Fuji . 30$ shaded glass and now its better . Just a bit of skill . Say your shot doesn't work with ND filters , well not everything lost , you can do AEB, you say yeah but its Portrait i really need one shot , and i cant use ND filter or AEB. Well that is 20% of the shots , if even that , probably less , maybe those would benefit from change of approach , a bit of experimentation , who know maybe better shot then what was originally planed is possible , probably Some would say this problem solving no , that aint good , its not for me , but other will say , especially those that like Camera work like i do , that is exactly what i want . Stanley Kubrick solving problems all day long . The only thing for me missing in that Canon 5D , is WiFi , its just Smartphone era and when you can use your Phone to control the camera thats something else , that is a plus . Even that is possible with USB and timer , but its better on WiFI

lol I'm bad about making comments as I watch. The comment I posted below was before I watched the comparison reel. Dude. 🤔 I'm not sure what you didn't like about the images out of the 5D, most of them looked better than the ones out of the Fuji. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Meh, to each their own.

@ChrisEdgecombePhoto

Жыл бұрын

I struggled with this copy, my 2nd Canon 5d that I've bought seems to be performing much better.

@philrmcknight

Жыл бұрын

@@ChrisEdgecombePhoto I'm really glad you gave it another shot with a different 5D, the photos you get out them have a look you won't get with anything else!

Hi Chris love your chanel, i know that this your review and you opinion, but i realy dont think that its fair to this so nice and beloved camera like canon 5D is.

@ChrisEdgecombePhoto

2 жыл бұрын

Hi NG, this is my honest thoughts though and I know when I was looking at the camera to buy, most videos on KZread were extremely positive about it so I was a little taken a back/dissapointed when I actually tried it for myself. So I thought it would be useful to make this video which includes my opinions on its good points as well as its not so good points. But, in all honestly, I just preferred other cameras that I've used like the Fuji X-E1. Just because not everyone agrees with this, doesn't mean that the camera is bad as it might be what someone else is looking for and fits their needs better. It also doesn't mean that this video should not be on KZread else we would just be left with biased videos from 'influencers' rather than 'real world' user experiences of such gear which personally I find a more useful gauge on whether to give a particular camera a go or not.

@Nenad9785

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChrisEdgecombePhoto I dont wanna waste your time, its ok that you have different opinion but you have video that says big letters " canon 5dc is disappointment", this ff camera is everything, dissappoointment is not one of them.

@ChrisEdgecombePhoto

2 жыл бұрын

@@Nenad9785 It was a disappointment for me though compared with what I was expecting it to be like....

Not a fair comparison, the canon won hands down on colours, it shows you don't like to use it because the camera doesn't carry you, the 5d is a camera for a photographer who doesn't rely on the camera to set or correct your exposure. The 5d was used by professional wedding photographers etc for years, and as they were supplying paid work, without any issues with exposure. Sorry for the negativity, but as guy with glasses 🤓 the viewfinder is not at fault. I think you should have just used the 5d on its own, learned to use it without comparing it to another camera, and taken it as what it is a professional full frame from 2005, it's like comparing driving a Tesla to a 2005 plate ford fiesta. If you want to just snap away use your phone, or learn to find the enjoyment in photography and tell the camera what you want and not to rely on the camera doing the work for you. Sorry again but I'm not usually this negative.

@ChrisEdgecombePhoto

4 ай бұрын

That's ok, i seriously think this one was faulty as my 2nd 5D is performing a lot better.... I'm constantly amazed at the quality of the images that this camera produces. I will at some point do a follow on video but, some of my original thoughts in this video still hold true.

@MrDyfedjones

4 ай бұрын

@@ChrisEdgecombePhoto thank you for your reply, I'll look forward to the follow up video. I agree the 5D isn't perfect and of its time, it isn't everyone's cup of tea, but the canon colours if matched with the better suited lens is still amazing in my opinion, did find similar issues when I had the 50mm f1.8 stm ii, on it, but I find it easier or preform better with a higher spec lens.

5D images are most of the time much nicer and more natural. If you buy a Canon camera with Live-View you would produce even better images. All Fuji files have too much blue in them. It looks to my eyes unnatural. I like blue but when things get blue like in the Fuji image which are not supposed to be blue it looks unnatural. Canon all the way! The Fuji sensor has mich better dynamic range though.

@ChrisEdgecombePhoto

2 жыл бұрын

I do agree that the images did come across more natural to me from the 5D, but my success rate was woeful and I just preferred the Fuji X-E1 look. I just couldn't see me gettng the hang of the 5D Mk1 anytime soon. I agree that the later 5Ds look like they produce some truly excelent 'digital' images; I'm just currently trying out cameras that are supposed to produce a more 'organic' feel to their images and the Canon 5D Mk1 I believe is once such camera as is the Fuji X-E1 with the original X-Trans 1 sensor. Thanks for watching and commenting.

I own both Cameras. If you know the DPReview Review from the X-E1, it easily kicks the 5D in IQ, just with APS-C and X-Trans II Sensor. Furtherway, onto Photography Life is a test, Review from Nasim from the X-E1, against the 5D II, and guess what...even the 5D II does have 21 MP, the X-E1 16 MP (20-30% advantage not seen via X-Trans, compared to Bayer CFA) the X-E1 beats also the nowdays 2008, "classic" Canon 5D Mark II into performance. The X100 does have a Antialiasing (AA) Filter inside the OPLF, but all other Fujifilm Cameras from the X100 series with X-Trans does not, so also the X-M1, X-E, X-T and X-Pro series.

@ChrisEdgecombePhoto

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for more comments 😀; I couldn't help myself, I have to try these cameras for myself as I don't think you can properly determine whether a camera if for you unless you feel it in your hands and try it out.....for me at the moment I am exploring these older cameras to see whether I like the 'look' of the images that they produce as I think newer cameras can look too digital. This is also completely subjective of course hence why I want to try these things out for myself...

Low volume

@ChrisEdgecombePhoto

Жыл бұрын

Sorry, hopefully things improve in my later videos. It did seem ok on my computer before uploading.

Really, it is hard to belive that u can’t obtain not good but great images. For sure it is the user fault

@ChrisEdgecombePhoto

2 жыл бұрын

Your probably right but I was taking similar images with Fuji and just found it easier to obtain decent images with.

"Fullframe" is a myth into 2021 - yes it means at specific circumstances more DoF, means depth of field with fast lenses, than a smaller APS-C/DX Sensor could provide. But the 2005 & 2008 original 5D, 5D Mark II have been surpassed by the X-E1/E2(s) series, from everything else otherwise. The E2 also received a complete overhaul of the AF System, back into the day, via firmware update. It was basically a new camera with firmware v4.00, and enhanced a bit further anyway...back into its day. Fuji called this "Kaizen", continously improvement.

@ChrisEdgecombePhoto

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for another comment 😀

@shams350z

2 жыл бұрын

lol

@arunashamal

2 жыл бұрын

Full frame isn't a myth. it is science. 5D Classic kicks ass of every fuji ever made in capable hands, this dude simply doesn't know how to use it. pair the 5D classic with a 135 f2, it will kick the GFX into sun. Yea, it doesn't have the dynamic range of modern cameras, but that is where your education come in, The gold standard for Landscapes before digital was Fuji Velvia, that only had like 5 stops of dynamic range. If you cannot get a good photo with a 5D that is on you. Not the camera.

@marcp.1752

2 жыл бұрын

​@@arunashamal FYI, i have the 5D original since 2006 & 2008, 2 Bodies. And no, the 5D "Classic" from Fall 2005 doesn't kick *any* Fujifilm, you have no clue about Sensor tech advances since then. I personally hate the "Fullframe" crowd, thinking APS-C isn't up to the task, and always believing shitty ads from brand xyz onto the Web. My X-E1&E2, T1 are much better than my 5D, in terms of DR, IQ. You don't shoot either way 1) long enough 2) being not experienced or 3) believe only marketing hypes, it's pretty obvious. The original 5D can't keep up at ISO 1600, 3200 with Fuji and same ISO,.. FYI, one can make great compositions with gear, even a 5 bucks disposable 35mm Film camera. If you can't make a decent composition with that, it's not the cameras fault.

@arunashamal

2 жыл бұрын

@@marcp.1752 you "hate" full frame crowd. So your argument is based on emotions of hate, therefore it has no basis in reality. and it shows. When it comes to 5D no one is telling you it is a great camera because it does high iso or DR. The only reason people mention it 17 years later is pure image quality. Your veering off to iso shows that you can't win in that argument, therefore you have to introduce something else. Of course every new generation of cameras have better and better high iso performance. Does any of your Fuji's have better high iso than a Canon r3? how about AF? lol.. see I can take this in other directions too... Also it is funny that fujifilm crowd "hate" full frame and their latest "x-men" sensors can do better than FF.... and the moment they can afford the GFX, all those points are good again. Go to a GFX forum, all the points you are trying to discredit Full Frame crowd, they are making it for the GFX... so if you hate the full frame argument, just understand it is a manifestation of your finances. When you are able to afford gfx you,ll love those same points.

Your best bet mate is an automated point and shoot. Maybe learn some basic photography skills like the exposure triangle then revisit a fully manual DSLR. You may change your mind when you know what you are doing. Hopefully you won’t regret getting rid of the classic as 175 was a steal! All the best and happy snapping.

@ChrisEdgecombePhoto

10 ай бұрын

Don't worry, I bought another one 😁. I think based on my experiences with this one, the first one I tried had something wrong with it.

Thanks, but your photos with the 5D are much better than than those taken with the Fuji.

@ChrisEdgecombePhoto

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting, why do you say that?

@KimHojbergJensen

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChrisEdgecombePhoto In the examples you showed I think colours are better. Skyes are more detailed

@KimHojbergJensen

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChrisEdgecombePhoto I will just add a bit - I used to shoot Nikon. I had a D7000. I stopped using it when phones got bettter. Probably because my 3 children were smaller. Now they are grown, and it was Fujifilm that got me back to "real cameras" with the X100V, then an X-T30. I had many technical issues with the X-T30 and poor service fro the company. When it was returned I sold it together with the X100V. I got a used X-T2 to use with my Fuji lenses, but realized that I liked my old Nikon better. Now my preferred amera is a D700, which is much like the 5D

@ChrisEdgecombePhoto

2 жыл бұрын

@@KimHojbergJensen I agree that when I nailed the metering and exposure of a scene, the Canon did perform well/better. The problem was I struggled a great deal in achieving this, in particular the skies/highlights even when I tried to expose for them - it was just much much easier with the X-E1 to produce a 'final' and similar result.

Fuji X-E 1 images looks to me tooooo digital. Canon 5d has superior image, more film like.

@ChrisEdgecombePhoto

Жыл бұрын

I don't disagree to a point, I'm on my 2nd Canon 5D now and am enjoying the experience more and the images are amazing, I just wish it wasn't so damn heavy 🪨. So the XE1 might be the next best thing in a smaller and lighter package; it certainly is more filmic IMO then later xtrans sensors. Thanks for the comment.