Integrating USB hub makes so much sense... How has nobody thought about it?

@fajaradi1223

2 күн бұрын

Everybody thought about it, but nobody actually dare to implement it.

@sharedsailing4787

2 күн бұрын

Why did mobo manufacturers drop the USB ports to begin with? My old Z370 had better internal I/O than my current B650

@sharedsailing4787

2 күн бұрын

Lian-Li's solution is pretty slick though

@SquintyGears

2 күн бұрын

@@sharedsailing4787 you are comparing a Z to a B series though... But yeah prices don't reflect the change. And even the number of ports on the back have gone down across the board. They just decided 6 to 8 was all we'll ever get.

@peterwstacey

2 күн бұрын

Motherboards have gone seriously downhill for connectivity for the past few years. Those of us who need a non-gaming one almost have to get a Threadripper to get full USB, PCIe slots, and UART. I keep a Chinese X99 system just for these...

2:50 It is BECAUSE it is Platinum rated, THAT the power supply can be made that small. These only have to deal with 26W-52W-143W of heat at 20%-50%-100% load in the worst case, allowing for small heatsinks. Very efficient DC-DC circuitry and controllers for non-12V rails allow for neat and tidy packaging.

@Retro-Iron11

Күн бұрын

It's also because of the L shape it appears small. It really isn't if you add in the invisible space above the L shelf. That space that would otherwise be taken up by the headers on the rear is now that vacant space. The actual ps space taken is the same as a larger one.

@GottKrampf

Күн бұрын

There's a Titanium rated 1650W PSU from Thermaltake that's slightly smaller and also offers a 10 year warranty. Comes without an awkwardly placed USB hub and twice the price but whatever. There's a bunch of smaller and more efficient PSUs out there at a comparable or better price. Lian Li probably just high from huffing fan fumes.

@slashers7775

Күн бұрын

Well yes, but actually no, 5/6 years ago I bought a dark power pro 11 1000w, it was big while being platinum rated. And now they are selling Straight power 11 1000w also plat rated, with a regular PSU size doing the same thing. Just technologic has advanced.

As time passes, it's good to see manufacturers adapting their products to what the general public asks for. This power supply is something I could have used 10 years ago when I was creating large servers and workstations, better late than never I say.

@vr0k3n

Күн бұрын

The general public doesnt create large servers and workstations tho 😅

@Bduh2

Күн бұрын

@@vr0k3n You’ll be surprised how many “simple” pc builders were asked to build servers AND workstations but you are right that the majority don’t do that.

@windowsseven8377

11 сағат бұрын

Nobody was asking for this.

i think the coolest part of this is how managable those cables are, the ones in my system take up so much space and are so inflexible

1300w psu that small, what a time to be alive

@AnotherLazybum

2 күн бұрын

think i have a 1200 watt corsair one that looks to be 2x the size of this one lol

@Dawelio

2 күн бұрын

@@AnotherLazybum No you don't, cause Corsair doesn't have 1200W in such an compact PSU. Their SF series are their smallest ones and they have just released their biggest at 1000W. Hence I think you're simply mistaken or trolling. EDIT: Clearly misread and misunderstood here, my bad!

@mulivs

2 күн бұрын

@@Dawelio bro he said his one is two times the size not half the size

@poorNOOB

2 күн бұрын

​@@DawelioRe-read again, he clearly stated that he had a Corsair psu that is almost 2 times bigger than this Lian Li ones. Probably referring to an AX1200I, that thing was long.

@advancegeo2986

2 күн бұрын

@@Dawelio typical looking so quickly to put another person down you misread his comment when he was agreeing with you, you are whats wrong with people nowadays the person was being non confrontational whatsoever even joking around a bit and someone somewhere has to get offended because they want to feel they're intellectually superior to someone else were literally all here to learn about pc parts just sit and watch

1:38 Obligatory "That's what she said"

@dadvinternet

2 күн бұрын

😏 lol.

@riffdex

2 күн бұрын

Was gonna make this comment “When you get intimate with her the first time” lol

@hirogodsend

2 күн бұрын

Same with @15:56

@Nightdare

2 күн бұрын

@@hirogodsend But "that what HE said"

I have to agree that fan and RGB hubs are a natural extension of this design. it's very pretty :)

@hubertnnn

Күн бұрын

But fans and RGB dont need a lot of power, USB-PD does (it can demand up to 240W, so taking that power directly from PSU makes sense).

@tondaty

Күн бұрын

Giving it an active fan hub is really smart tho .... you can just take signal with virtually no load from mobo and the PSU will deliver all the power you need without worying about overloadig mobo header. I mean theese days you can have case with 10 or even more fans and if you go custom water loop you can have sigle preset for entire loop.

The addition of the USB hub is worth the price of admission alone. Bravo!

@BoraHorzaGobuchul

2 күн бұрын

I dunno. People who buy PSUs like this generally but expensive boards which generally do not lack USB ports

@ejeckk

Күн бұрын

@@BoraHorzaGobuchul I'm personalizing it. I'm one of those people who buys expensive mobos (ASUS Maximus Z790 Hero) and I still like having more USB ports. But perhaps you are correct and the average premium mobo customer mayn't purchase it.

@123Suffering456

Күн бұрын

I think it's certainly nice to have in case it's needed, but I'd care much more for what Jay suggested, so fan connectors or (even better) ARGB connectors.

@Phage0070

Күн бұрын

Why is a PSU handling input/output anyway? Even if motherboards are lacking in I/O I don't think it is the role of a PSU to solve that issue. The only justification I can see is if the power demands of modern USB devices are so high that you don't want to run it all through the motherboard. Otherwise it seems to me like a memory stick with an RGB header on it; even if the need is legitimate the component serving that need is out of its lane.

@windowsseven8377

11 сағат бұрын

@@Phage0070 I couldn't agree more. This PSU is for suckers. Its like DLSS or Frame generation for I/O. An Ext powered usb hub is already better cable management with those pcie connectors intersecting each other.

That is the most innervated PSU I have seen in a LONG time, the attention to the different cable types, love the design of attachment and the USB hub for the cases that allow it to be fan up vs normal fan down.

J: "3 PCIe-cables for older series GPUs" 7900xtx: Am I a joke to you?

@shadowwolf2608

2 күн бұрын

Considering they're the only ones that don't melt your GPU, they're not going anywhere anytime soon.

@S4m4_

2 күн бұрын

my 4090 asus strix also

@bdahb5040

Күн бұрын

I had the exact same thought

@elchancho8432

Күн бұрын

@@S4m4_Weird I have the same one and only use one cord with it

@WayStedYou

Күн бұрын

Jay only speaks in nvidia unless he is doing a review

That's real nice. Like the fan grill, mod plug and wire selection, the pre attached combs, the USB hub, the pcie custom plate, the size, power and efficiency... just well done. Bravo. In the next iteration add a fan and rgb hub... only other things anyone could ask for.

It is much appreciated to see that there are manufacturers who think differently

15:55 "you can get 3 fingers in there, pretty easily"

@johnt.848

Күн бұрын

That's what she said.

@steveharlow2338

Күн бұрын

And then he gives the camera that look.

Love it! You hit the nail on the head, PSUs don't need the footprint the standard calls for. This gives the manufacturers license to add in other features. Lian Li is always thinking of ways to make their products stand out.

8:26 Nice camera work. JTC: "This might be one of the most inclusive power supplies I've ever experienced." cam: Zooms out to a sea of cables.

i really like the idea of having things integrated into the PSU.

Jay, you did something and now my algorithm loves you. I'm not sure what but love your videos. Keep it up.

I love this new version of a PSU. I see the pros & cons but I definitely will consider it for my next Rig. Thanks Jay( & crew)

5:50 the moment you realise he is not faking the reviews and that is legit his first time seeing it. Nice! +5 social score +10 respect.

On top of being odd and different, that form factor actually has a huge advantage in manufacturing because they can just extend the PCB under that section and surface mount the connectors. 1) I'm surprised it took so long to do that and 2) I expect lots of copy cats in the next few years.

@yuan.pingchen3056

2 күн бұрын

L shape should be Lian-Li exclusive, the competitors follow their 'L' shape design almost advertise for Lian-Li.

@bituniverse8677

2 күн бұрын

@@yuan.pingchen3056 The last thing we need in this space is more proprietary designs. Let people copy cat good ideas.

@wabash9000

2 күн бұрын

@@yuan.pingchen3056 I think the usb hub will remain a Lian-Li exclusive but I don't see the shape will remain exclusive for very long. Most people will not know that Lian-Li did it first, sadly most will think it is cool and unique when EVGA, Thermaltake, or Cooler Master does it.

@primozsuhadolnik5468

2 күн бұрын

Dont worry about "copy cats", Lian Li will simply sue them, hahahahahaha

I love seeing the grouped 4 sata connector. When I purchased my Thermaltake Level 10 GTS years ago they had that setup making cable management easier

Oh, it actually was released as specific to an 011D and dual chamber cases, there was a lot of information in February but it doesn't look like it's available for release through retailers yet. I hope everyone sees that the Edge models also have forward facing connections before they order them.

Love the design! I am waiting for this to finish my BTF build right now.

I really love the idea of building in a fan, argb and usb hub into the psu. Makes so much sense!

I really like this design, and the cabling well thought out as well. Great idea of Jay's to add rgb / fan hub as well

Radical designs like this are so awesome. Especially since it’s addressing so many annoyances that get in the way.

@JayzTwoCents like you mentioned : - a 4-pin PWM fan hub - an RGB lighting hub (ARGB + DRGB) and maybe this : - put a block of female USB Type A connectors on 1 side of the back of the PSU so that these are accessible from outside the PC case (in case your motherboard rear IO panel doesn't have a lot of them) - cable management option to hide the cables coming off the PSU : add 1 extra (removable) "wall panel" that you can clip or slide on the cable connector panel and the front of the PSU, and have the option to clip/slide it either on the left or the right side depending how you install the PSU in the PC case upside down or normal (like with a PC case with a glass window you would be able to completely hide the cables coming off the PSU)

It's an amazing deal if they can manage to sell it at the advertised MSRP ($240), set of custom cables alone is ~$100.

Been using lian li everything since 2020, literally the best products I've ever purchased for PC components.

Love your channel. You always keep it real.

It's nice to see a PSU designed for dual chamber cases in mind, since there are so many of them out there these days. And the USB hub is a refreshing addition to see as well. There seems to never be enough USB ports on the main board. But AIO's and some RGB and fan hubs need them. Lian-Li has set the bar on this on IMO.

I must have this for my 011 dynamic XL. It's perfect for that case and probably the copy cats too!

its great, helps so much not having to make the big U at the end esp for the main mb cable. modular add ons would be a dream, so users can have the choice to add whatever additional headers they need

Wow. These cables are GREAT!

Honestly, this is one of the most exciting products you have covered lately.. if I didn't already have an AX1600i, I'd be all over this. I love the repositioning of the plugs, as trying to plug in new power to a device in my present case is such a pain. The USB hub is great as well.. bring on all the hubs!! Moo

i think they shouldve made the connector block detachable and have it reverseable so the power supply can be mountable the other way up.

@altus199

2 күн бұрын

Yeahhhh,would be cool but.... We had cards burning because people couldn't seat the plugs. Can you imagine how they will mess this up😂 we aren't ready as species for this.

@wallywest2360

2 күн бұрын

That would probably be a nightmare for the engineers designing it. An extra point of failure and connection point (added resistance) right next to the main board, I'm thinking that would be dicey and boost the price a lot.

@Anthraxegott

2 күн бұрын

The connector block is a part of the main board. I remember them saying that they were trying to simplify the production by doing away with the normal daugterboard with the connections as on normal psu´s.

@nekoghostgunner1129

2 күн бұрын

I think it would be easier to just make an inverted version. They definately need to do that though for the cases that are meant to have the PSU fan oriented to the bottom.

@Anthraxegott

2 күн бұрын

@@nekoghostgunner1129 They could probably make the connectors on the other side of the lip/board. They just can´t move the lip because of the board. Otherwise just buy a normal PSU.

I use a splitter for my sata drives because I have 5 sata drives and only 2 sata power, so seeing so much thought on this PSU is so nice to see. I love it!

I bought the one from corsair where the cables connect to the side for a conventional case and I love it. So much easier to connect the cables .

That Design is GENIUS... Well Played Lian-Li, Guaranteed other PSU Companies will Now "Adopt" that Design 🤣🤣🤣

@adamblyth9972

2 күн бұрын

And the consumers win.

@gutsbobbles7973

2 күн бұрын

Corsair did that years ago.

@HKl1502

2 күн бұрын

@@gutsbobbles7973 Trash implementation, you can't mount the psu on its side cause the cables wont fit.

@manup1931

2 күн бұрын

This is a well known design in servers.

@gutsbobbles7973

2 күн бұрын

@@HKl1502 just use dual a chamber case.

Glad you used this case, it's the one I have. I hope they make it to where to can set it so the fan is pulling from the bottom. I have 2 140 fans set up on the bottom to blow up into to case and on the graphics card. The 216 case is amazing for what you can do with it and since it averages around a 100 dollars, it's a great price point too.

It looks good and practical too, well done Lian Li.👍🥰

I love it.. on my list for my next build.

An awesome design for something so fundamental! Nice one Lian-Li 😎 I second the notion of adding some dedicated fan/pump/RGB power support.

What a nice power supply, and great set of cables options.

Lian Li could offer the option to order small, medium, or large cables that would ship with that PSU. Customers could purchase from any online or mom-and-pop retailer and have the PSU shipped directly to the consumer, leaving the return process with those retailers. They could have a guide on ordering the cables needed for their case and/or the direction they would run them. Your idea to have a PMW and/or RBGW controller would be super beneficial while allowing the option to use whichever software to run those controllers.

Loving this type of product design.

And it even comes in black....I'm so buying one when it comes out. Thanks for the video.

I like that. Easy to get to later on if you gotta add cables later.

Man… wish I needed another PSU or had this earlier this year when I did my last build! Hopefully they also do a black version!

I'd love the idea of consolidating all the hubs into the PSU. Consolidating some of the case IO cables there and developing one standard cable could all be a neat way of making motherboards I bit less of a mess.

I've been wondering for a long time why there aren't more different options for power supply designs. I love the white aesthetic and the wires come with those comb thingies preinstalled for keeping your wires looking nice! I think I really like this PSU, but I'll bet it's out of my budget range. I've actually got an extra USB header device (giving me 6 more usb headers) because my rig didn't have enough- that USB header idea is really great! I'd LOVE to have RGB/Fan headers on a PSU- that's a really great idea, and it's got me thinking about more stuff now as well.

This is awesome! I totally agree with making it a "hub central" if you will.

Brilliant. Been a Lian Li fan and user of their cases exclusively going back to the satin finished, aluminum ones with CD and floppy accommodating removeable front covers. Built probably 40 PC for work, friends, family and myself exclusively with Lian Li cases and Asus motherboards. Abandoned Asus 3 PC's ago for very good reasons but still use Lian Li cases, fans, AIO's and will soon build another one with this power supply. Well done.

Genius. Definitely getting one for my next build

Love it, Liam li keep leading on design

10:11 That particular case's (Lancool 216) bottom mesh panel is removable. There's a single screw at the back and you slide the panel towards the rear to remove it.

Brilliant design. And love the ideas of USB + Fan + ARGB

I like how you can customize the cables that come out of it.

I would love to see the addition on the fan and RGB hubs as you suggested. Also since your adding a USB connection to the PSU anyway you could actually put a PWM and RGB controller in the PSU. You could also put the hardware in to allow software monitoring of the PSU. If your building a dual chamber system based on the O11 concept and a LOT of people are, this PSU makes perfect sense.

I love the USB hub. such a neat addition, and would make cable management so much easier! great job lian li!

I didn't think I would like it, but after watching the vid, I really dig it. If there were options for longer cables for bigger cases, I'd strongly consider it.

That usb hub alone makes me want to get this psu, and itd work well in my hyte y60 mounts the same as the o11 dynamic

I'd look into them for sure. Nice to see an industry-wide USB2.0 shortage for mother boards, but more and things using them now. They have other ways of getting more USB2.0 in your case too.

That is actually refreshing! Good job Lian-Li!

I wouldn't use it for my current case but that PSU Is amazing. I would totally pick one of these up if I had a vertical mount.

Been waiting for this PSU to release

The reason they include 2 types of the 12vhpwr cable is I believe to accommodate for the type of cards that require 3 pcie power cables. Its meant to be 1 or the other, not both. My msi 1000w psu also included the same 2 cables and menthions that.

Usb hub is so nice and you nailed it Jay a Rgb hub would be so nice would make it so much easier to run so many things.

Outta the Park Lian LI. Looks soo clean Jay! Beautiful management.

This is actually really clever. I'd have to imagine it's easier for trace routing too since you don't have to have separate PCBs for the power supply itself and the connectors

Very HAPPY!!!!! Fun hubs and RGB HUbs will be perfect!

Man I want to use it on my test bench. Waiting to see it in black. I like this type on power supply. I'm with you on a fan hub that you can control the fan speed

I have an O11 as my main system's case. If I need a new PSU one of these will get serious consideration.

definitely bad ass and genius way to redesign and stand out defiantly gonna look into next time i need a power supply i want one

Dude, Lian Li is always coming out with some crazy ideas! I love it.

Well, that's new. I like the idea of also adding a fan and RGB hub as it could take some voltage stress off the MB

I remember a case cant think of the brand but they had a board that split the sata power so you one in and all the bays had power in the proper position. Never knew why that neve caught on. It was nice though.

Really glad to see this. I hope companies keep rethinking the design and features it could be really good for the consumer. If say Corsair were to include the LinkIQ hub in the power supply with the cables to connect USB2 and the link to the fans that would be a game changer.

I like it. I'm getting a 011 XL anyway, so I think I'll give this a look when I get to Micro Center. I'm thinking I will slip a piece of white rubber pad I have laying around here, about 1/16th thick between the cables and the USB ports for shielding. Maybe not needed, but that just my ocd. Thanks Jay 🤗

This actually seems like a really good idea - built in USB hub makes a ton of sense. Mobo manufacturers have gone so cheap on USB headers.

If I ever decide to change my case, I might actually decide to buy that psu just because it looks neat and has an interesting plug location.

neat, just have to wait till they hit Newegg shelf. will work fine in my Corsair 7000x case.

After using several add on cards that have failed that give extra usb hubs, I will certainly think about this on my next build, which I intend on building a new pc in September, and keeping my old pc as a Plex server

Love you Jay!!!!

I bought one of corsairs shift psu's just because it was on sale at a local retailer and its saved my butt in 2 builds so far that used regular bottom mounted psu's in large cases(define 7 xl and north xl). I would have either needed custom cables or cable extensions. Thats not something i want to waste money on in my builds. So if this psu can get you that 1 or 2 extra inches of cable length you need to make your build possible, then i guess thats neat.

The Corsair Shift, the Lian-Li Edge. Kinda digging seeing different layouts on PSUs. Now can we get a fan hub on one that would be amazing!

Reminds me of my Pioneer SX-750 vintage receiver which has the audio input/output connectors and speaker outputs on an extension which sticks out of the rear.

I like the new thumbnails! Yea, the psu design is super cool, longer cables and rgb hubs etc I agree needs to be added

that's a really awesome psu I want one, time for a new build!

This is going to be AWESOME in the NV9, you should totally use it to make a build in your NV9!!!!!!

really like this!

I am happy to see new design ideas hitting the market. Might be a bit niche, but a bunch of different niche designs by PSU makers could make all the difference for many exotic PC builds.

I would love to get an extension board with power supplies. Thermaltake has one where you can mount it where ever for minimum cable runs and it's a lot easier to plug everything

lian li is always on point with their products, would love to see lian li get into the motherboard and gpu business someday

yeah thats a nice powersupply idea, I mean the cables are so clean and dont take up any space in the classic case mount, also i think i like this one more than the corsair flex ones

It's popular in a lot of MATX and ITX cases to mount the power supply against the front wall of the case with the fan facing outward. Because the fan and cable ports face the same way on this PSU, all of your cables would run toward the front and have to turn around. Probably not a big deal though, unless the cables can't tolerate the bend radius. Just thinking through my keyboard.

That usb hub is a great idea. I work on custom systems for things like lighting control, entertainment control systems and such. And the facepanel controllers on these systems are all USB2.0. In some cases you need 3 or 4 motherboard hubs, which means buying a separate hub, or being very picky with your mobo. Having an integrated hub is a great idea.... but... these are all commercial systems that only draw like... 300-400watts under full load, some of them draw like 45 watts total.

digital readout for current draw, voltage, etc. info on the quality of power coming from your wall. And a built in emergency battery for blackout protection, so that you can save and shutdown in time.

Yep, I had to remove the drive cage on my Lancool 2 because of my PSU. This is amazing.

Man I wish this was available a year or so ago when I built my 011D EVO build. Would have been so nice for cable management and saved money not "needing" custom cables.