Hey Jay! We met on the Disney Wonder - I'm Ryan the bartender from Cove Cafe, sorry I missed you on your 2nd cruise, I heard you had asked after me. Was great to meet you mate, thanks for the chat!

@captainslow_037

2 күн бұрын

get this man to the top of the comments

@JustinVazquez1430

2 күн бұрын

This is the way

@puppet_master

2 күн бұрын

This is the comment we didn't know we needed.

@joshdoldersum9132

2 күн бұрын

@@captainslow_037 he are!

@samiraperi467

2 күн бұрын

Covfefe?

100% more Jayz Science channel.

@theAwakenedOne007

2 күн бұрын

I would much rather watch JayzTwoScience than watching reviews of computer parts. Liquid cooling building and xoc were the videos that got me on this channel. We need more please!

@SullySadface

Күн бұрын

The real question is, do you take the $500,000 or the dinner with JayZ

@Kingvoakahustla

Күн бұрын

When you wants max OC you better us an Asus ROG MB

@TewaAya

Күн бұрын

A reverse greg Salazar, from pc to science channel. Now is all ai, unproven optical glass processor and IPC. Am4 is a stubborn excuse on stuttery fps performance and can't lock frequencies and the intel 14+++++++ mm node just made a toaster oven in 2014 have better heat efficiency.

The reason that you are my favorite tech KZreadr is because of your ability to admit when you are wrong, admit when you don’t know everything about what you’re doing, and the fact that you truly show genuine humility and show the desire to learn when you ARE unsure about something. Don’t get me wrong, you know ALOT, and I’ve learned so so much from you, you’re extremely intelligent and I respect your intelligence a lot, but at the same time, You don’t act like you know everything, because nobody knows everything. Through this you show that you’re just a normal human being, which makes you much more relatable. I love your “learning experience” videos just as much as the ones packed with information that you already know like the back of your hand. This video In particular isn’t really either, but I just wanted to leave this comment as I binge your latest videos to catch up after a busy week. You just seem so genuine with everything you do. The way you talk to the camera, the way you talk about what you’re doing, and the way you explain things and break stuff down for people is unmatched. We love you Jay.

@fenharel0707

10 сағат бұрын

exactly that.

@tradingnichols2255

7 сағат бұрын

If I was Jay, I"d add a heart this comment, but I don't know how much he and his staff have for such things. :)

@silentcoyotecreations

6 сағат бұрын

@@tradingnichols2255what is wild is after posting this, I found out he and Phil were gonna be at my local Microcenter. I ended up going and I got to say some of this in person. ❤ They also signed my 1080ti Heatsink!!! 😊

For the vacuum system, I’m sure it was initially vacuum but then the evaporating nitrogen filled the tank, so it became a nitrogen purged system the same as binoculars or rifle scopes. So the other components were still cooled by the nitrgoen but there was no water for condensation to occur.

@The_Keeper

2 күн бұрын

... Y'know, if he ran his testbench in a big plastic box, that could be sufficient to achieve zero condensation I mean, nitrogen is heavier than atmospheric air, so it should displace the air fairly quickly. Heck, a big styrofoam catering box might be enough. The evaporating LN2 should provide more than enough Nitrogen gas to keep the pure nitrogen atmosphere in the box. Well, as long as there wasn't too strong of a draft in the studio...

@nanoflower1

2 күн бұрын

@@The_Keeper You made me look it up. Nitrogen is lighter than air so that isn't the situation. Now CO2 is heavier than air so he could use that to drive out the moisture laden air.

@The_Keeper

2 күн бұрын

Ahh, ok. I was just told that it Nitrogen displaced air. Should have looked it up myself. Thanks for the correction. Just looked it up myself. I was thinking of nitrous oxide. But yeah, a CO2 atmosphere could do it. And its the densest gas that is both easy to get, and not extremely dangerous to deal with outside of a lab.

@outsidethebox262

2 күн бұрын

​​@nanoflower1 I don't think it will work. H20 is probably heavier than anything on air. What he could do instead is just build the vacuum chamber, but draw all the moisture out from the bottom, and fill it back up with nitrogen or co2.

@nanoflower1

2 күн бұрын

@@The_Keeper Dry ice/CO2 is also something he had in plenty of supply, at least at the start of this experiement. He also doesn't need anything fancy. Put his current setup in a cardboard box and his ready to go. Just sets some dry ice to one side in the box and give it a few minutes before starting the experiment.

Hey Jay, just wanted to say thank you for the years of enjoyment you've given me. Started watching on an older channel of mine when I was around 13 and now I'm 21 and you've given me a lot. I'm headed towards a Systems Administrator role in IT. For the hobby aspect of things you've definitely hit a soft spot.

@thelespauldude3283

2 күн бұрын

Same for me. Started watching when i was 16, now im 23. Havent missed a single upload yet

Captain Pedantic chiming in. You wouldn't be evaporating money by letting that dry ice go to waste, but rather sublimating it.

@The_Keeper

2 күн бұрын

To be fair; Sublimation is just evaporation without the liquid stage. The difference is academic, at best. :)

@HamBown

2 күн бұрын

@@The_Keeper evaporation requires liquid. It is defined by the conversion of liquid to gas, so not really. Sublimation is the correct term.

@The_Keeper

2 күн бұрын

@@HamBown And physically, its the same thing giving, the same result; Molecules leaving the source substance. The only difference is the liquid state of source substance... And hell, both can occur at the same time. Sure, science has decided classify them as two different mechanisms, but thats really just pedantry. I mean, I get what you're saying, I really do. But that doesn't mean I won't point out the silliness in the fact that they're considered seperate things, when they're basically the same thing with the only difference being the state of the starting material. So yes, Sublimation IS the correct term as you state, but only due to technicalities.

@HamBown

2 күн бұрын

@@The_Keeper you could say that about a lot of things. It is certainly pedantic to point it out and correct someone, but that level of specificity is actually critical in science.

@The_Keeper

2 күн бұрын

@@HamBown I know. All I'm saying is that in this instance, its idiotic to have two entirely distinct terms for what amounts to the same thing. Especially in a non-lab situation. I am not disagreeing with you, I am disagreeing with the dingbats who originally decided that they were to be considered two seperate things when they are the same mechanism. Evaporation Might as well be called Liquid Sublimation, or Sublimation might as well be called Solid Evaporation.

Some friends and I did this in our garage with a 2.4GHz Northwood P4 back in the day. We got it all the way up 3.6GHz. Though, our pot was hand mig welded and zap strapped to the board....with no condensation protection for the board, just AC insulating wrap for the pot. This brought back some great memories. Thanks.

@Damicske

2 күн бұрын

the good old days :D

@theofficialbgame

Күн бұрын

I'm so glad I'm not the only one who did this when they were younger. I was the only one out of a lot of techy friends and I got a lot of crap for it lol

@hotdogtopdog

Күн бұрын

P4 Northwood ftw! I remember having a 2.8gb @ 3.36 stable oc. The good old days...

@BeardedFrog

Күн бұрын

Ahh good times. When extreme OC was extremely custom. Heck even water cooling was extremely custom. Back when you also literally soldered in resisters and such to physically mod boards for more voltage, as well as pencil tricks on CPUs, and when FSB overclocking was the way to go. I did similar myself with an Athlon Xp Mobile 2500, in my volt modded DFI Infinity NF2 board, and 512MB of bh-5 chip DDR. Iirc I had it up to something like 305 Fsb x 10 for 3.05 ghz on over 2v. Pretty sure it was a record, and I was just in high school at the time. That chip and board were troopers, despite the abuse they survived. I still ran them daily OC'd at like 260 or 270ish FSB on a thermalright SLK900U with a vantec tornado fan lol.

You don't necessarily need a vacuum to stop condensation, you just need no moisture in the air and for that you can for instance keep the system in a glove box under a continuous nitrogen purge (which will be easy when using LN2) or continuously push dry air in the box

@WouterVerbruggen

2 күн бұрын

Simply putting everything in a box only open at the top also does a lot. Both with LN2 and dry ice since cold N2 and CO2 in general are denser than air. Still there will be moisture diffusing in, but its way less

Why not put the nuts on the other end of the rods before putting the rods onto the m/b ?

@gingaming_gg

2 күн бұрын

Lol, you must be looking for a channel where we think through and plan things first... we were seconds away from a glorious isopropyl alcohol combustion... we don't do things the smart way here... we just do them lmao

@zenioralive2115

2 күн бұрын

@@gingaming_gg I'm surprised I needed to search someone talking about the torch xD

@tradingnichols2255

7 сағат бұрын

I thought of this, then painfully forgot it to live in "Jay's moment. lol

Crazy experiments, always nice! What you're seeing is not the acohol boiling, you're seeing sublimating CO2 bubbles coming out. Dry ice is -78.5 C in a pure CO2 atmosphere at standard pressure. In air its up to 20 C colder. We published that last year after I finished my master thesis on it. Btw theres lots of optimisations can be done on those pots tho, their insides are trash for thermal transfer. At least there's those holes to give more surface area than a bare shell would give. Tho with the very viscous cold IPA it might not improve much, at least way less than the very low viscosity LN2.

Random thought - CPU contact frame instead of the factory bracket? Might allow you to use the larger pot if you wanted to see if you could get a bit better results.

Time for a sub-zero Alcohol loop. ALL THE DRY ICE.

@WouterVerbruggen

2 күн бұрын

That would be awesome! Hard though, the stuff gets very viscous at those temperature

@The_Keeper

2 күн бұрын

Not to mention that alcohol has dreadful thermal conductivity... Water is around 3,5 times better at conducting heat than alcohol.

@WouterVerbruggen

2 күн бұрын

@@The_Keeper heat conductivity is not very relevant for liquid cooling, it is what capacity that you want. And/or if possible, like in this case, phase change

@jameswhitehead6758

2 күн бұрын

@@The_Keeper So 3.5x the flow rate! And MUCH colder before freezing vs. water. I want to see how an alcohol loop works. DO IT JAYZTWOCENTS

@The_Keeper

2 күн бұрын

@@jameswhitehead6758 Indeed

I literally just finished watching your last dry ice cooling video!

@tradingnichols2255

7 сағат бұрын

I don't much remember the other video, but I know this one is a lot of fun!

Why not use argon instead of a vacuum, its heavier than air so will fill a box that a motherboard is in, its dry so no water will condense out and its easily available from welding suppliers.

I love the mad scientist experiments.

8:05 - and thus, Jay created a new version of MSI afterburner

I wonder how dielectric oil would take the cold. You can submerge the board in the oil, then cool the whole container with the board and oil in it. You wouldn't have to worry about condensation. I am just not sure how cold it can go.

@collectorguy3919

21 сағат бұрын

-57'C is the pour point for mineral oil

Finally Jay went back to the cool stuff. Love these videos

@tradingnichols2255

7 сағат бұрын

I like how he got used systems and upgraded them too. :)

I'm not too much into overclocking myself, but I'm into when you do it like this. I get to learn something and is fun to watch. Definitely do more like this!

I love this content. Thank you for sharing!

I wanna see you run chilled alcohol through a water cooled system!

@theofficialbgame

Күн бұрын

Chill a rad with an ac unit? Yeah I can see him doing that

Jay, you should do some science with the Thermal Grizzly AM5 direct die waterblock

I love to see you guys have so much fun with these series, reminds me a bit of Braniac in a way - but tech

I love and appreciate how this channel stayed the same and remained consistent over the years. From the early days of Jay by himself in his home office, to now having a dedicated office and a crew - the quality of content and the humor that goes with it, it's like I'm watching the same good old Jay from back then, only amplified. It's awesome! It's always interesting to watch, and never boring. Thank you for the great content. God bless!

So good to see back to these types of videos, love you Jay!!!

You want more stupid ideas? Sorry, I don't have any, but I LOVED how fun this video was!

I do enjoy your crazy over clocking stuff. Even if it does not work. As I'm never going to OC my rig, it's cool to see someone else do it

Jay, consider putting sub-zero rigs in a box or fish tank with a couple containers of dry ice or liquid nitrogen. The carbon dioxide or nitrogen will be colder and heavier than ambient. This can serve as an effective barrier against condensation as the warmer air will constantly be pushed away by the cold gases. Ethanol (think Everclear) has a lower freezing temperature than methanol or Isopropanol (isopropyl alcohol from the drug store). Their dielectric strengths are similar enough for your purposes.

I'm loving the Professor Jay video series!

It's amazing that as much unintersted as I am in any kind of overclocking I still love seeing you doing this kind of videos. I'm sure that in later videos you'll find a way to solve some of the problems with dry ice and lN2 and try it again.

Regarding the "vacuum" system to control moisture. I can foresee problems with the rest of the system that depends on air cooling (including components that wouldn't normally need to be cooled). A thought that I have had in the past was to build the PC inside a sealed case, then completely dehumidifying it to 0% humidity, and then providing a closed loop radiator within that sealed cabinet to provide cooling (absorbing rather than radiating heat) to the components that aren't cooled by a sub-zero (something other than water) loop .

Here's a stupid challenge you could maybe collaborate with one of the engineering/building channels on: instead of using fans to move air over radiators or heatsinks, move them or the entire PC through the air. Could you match the OC of a normal watercooling loop or will the computer be torn apart?

Well done on your experiment sir. Look forward to the next one.

I love this series!

I love these videos! Please do more! I don’t have any suggestions though

@tradingnichols2255

7 сағат бұрын

That's a ton like what I said, and then got suggesting on other's suggestions and had a fun idea of my own! He probably won't do it, but I test my OC's with CPU mining. Really no point to use R23 too. LOL Except maybe that more people run those tests so I can see where I'm at in the community. Helped me realize 1 of my motherboards SUCK... and it's the one I picked for my main PC. 5950x is still way more power than I need, but I don't like that it made my 5800x3d a good 2000 to 2500 points slower on r23 than an older MOBO that I got for my wife and had to update the bios - that old "lower end board" was higher end for it's day and better than anything new I got from Aorus Pro's lineup.... sad.

Heat transfer can still occur via radiation in a vacuum. That being said, what you could potentially do is seal the chamber and use dehumidifiers to remove the moisture in the air.

I think videos like this best define your channel, strong passion for what you do.

i love this kind of experimental idiocy! this was a lot of fun

For the E cores, you want to watch the ring when you touch them (May have to do this through the bios if XTU doesn't have a ring option). You may not have had the BSOD if you lowered the ring, as I've personally found that a higher E core clock destabalizes the ring when that is near its limit.

@tradingnichols2255

7 сағат бұрын

I'm not familiar with the ring. Can you tell me more?

Whoooooo let’s go Jay! Love you bro!

You could use a rag to slide the hold down nuts much faster. I learnt that from construction workers putting lug nuts on long bolts.

@tradingnichols2255

7 сағат бұрын

Or put the nuts on before putting the nuts down the long threaded item into the motherboard... Honestly, nice tip! . . . but there's a better order of operations. LOL

1:12 the fine thread is nice because it gives you fine adjustments. May I recommend putting a nut in place before you cut off the top of that all thread. When you unthread the nut it will take any burrs out and make reinsertion of the nut easier next time.

You crack me up. I was one of the original customized store bought water coolers in the 90s... I just wanted to play quake with zero latency. In the bay area I learned about condensation and just put my computer on the side blowing an air conditioner across my radiator in winter with SF fog. I had to do some radio shack stuff. We had to use jumpers. I blew up more boards than chips. I was running ATI graphics with a voodoo 1

Good point about not using blowtorch with IPA, probably wouldn't do the 3D printed piece any good either...

Actually impressed with how well the dry ice/alc worked - I do need to get my 11700k under water at least (still rolling 5GHz all core 1.3vCore was at 1.40 since I just did a dirty OC).

Jayz two cents ultimate gamer between you guys in various games. It’s been awhile since something like that.

These janky screwing around videos are my favourite! Have you thought of experimenting with mineral baths for cooling? I wonder what combination of submersion coolant and cooler/ underwater fan combo would work best? I'm imagining a setup where you leave your CPU exposed, and just have a fan pointed directly at it. That way you remove the extra contact layer (metal on metal,) that you would need with a LN2 or heatsink/water block setup. In fact, is there a world where you can create a watertight mineral bath tub that would allow your liquid to directly come into contact with the CPU lid? You could pump mineral bath fluids with a regular pump.

Nice work!

Keep at it, the origin of knowledge is experimentation and documenting the results.

always loved and enjoyed the LN2 content and the RIP Steve saga was amazing.

Jay’s dryice adventures marathon just dropped!!!

Just want to say, I love this crazy stuff you do that I could never have done. Cause I can’t f***.. Mess around with my stuff like this 😂 It’s good fun to watch honestly. Next step is to put your PC in your car and drive as hell to see much friction it can take before giving up 😏

i enjoy these little science experiments tbh

ive got an idea for ya: not vacuum enclosure, but filled with same CO2 as in the dry ice, and have it circulated via fans somehow, that or nitrogen gas, if N2 is used

hey jay, easy tip with those threads. put a circular cloth or even a thinker rubber band around one side of the bolt and your drill in the same loop, then you can just use the drill to screw/unscrew

The liquid co2 post I did the other day, still don't know what if the system would survive the over 5 bars needed for that, but IF it does, then you may be able to use that thermal exchange medium and run it through a refrigeration system... run it down to -30c and keep it there... might need a unique paste for that though XD

Air conditioners dehumidify the air, one could try making a duct to blow directly on the board/socket area to help prevent condensation from forming, freezing, and melting.

A video of you using refrigerants in a water cooling setup. or a pc fully immersed in mineral oil like they used to do back in the early 2000s. or a video on how to bend your own copper vapor heat pipes for custom made heatsinks.

I love the "extreme" overclocking type stuff. Would love to see how hard you can push an AMD CPU as a comparison to this video

Love to see some Jay extreme overclocking.

Hey Jay! Cool tech tip for YOU. On those long, threaded rods you can take a small drill and set it opposite the way you want to turn the nut you're screwing, then hold down the trigger (Go at your own pace) and the chuck will spin against the nut, spinning the nut. Smaller drills work better, especially if their chuck is rubberized and not plasticized.

1:36 You know you can put the nuts on the other way, and then put the rods in place

please try the same setup and drop into a shallow mineral spirit bath, just enough to cover the components with the pot being the only thing exposed so you can pour in the alcohol. And chill the alcohol as much as possible. What will the cold exterior of the pot do to the mineral spirits? If a problem build a mold to pour epoxy as thick as you need to give it a barrier.

how about using a sealed box with a mobo inside with a "shed load" of desiccant to absorb all the moisture in the box, so with the LN2 pot attached less worry about moisture messing up runs. :D

I was wondering after the last video if using ammonia in the loop would work. It’s what is used in the cooling of spacecraft to conduct heat.

I love when Jay gets the XOC bug :)

Does anyone even care if Jay's experiments work or not? I don't lol. It's fun just watching him try stuff!

do a video just going through all the weird/cool stuff you've collected over the years!

Try this. Mineral oil pc, with the lno2 funnel suspended out of the oil. now drop dry ice into the oil, it has a freezing temp of -30. this way you can cool the motherboard, and not worry about frost. after that just use the lno2 like normal, no shorts because the oil does not conduct electricity.

Hey Jay, have you ever thought sbout torque renching the mount down for even spread? & potentially testing to see what torque provides the best contact?? Love the vids btw

You sir are insane. But wow what fun! 44098 is insane.

11:54 I definitely heard "We dont have much time" in Arnie's voice as the T-1000 is on the floor in pieces melting back together from the liquid nitrogen. Weird association I know.

multiple loops and rads with TEC's intersecting each loop, so each loop cools the liquid down as it goes through the each rad.

Have you considered that it might be almost as effective if you have a very good plate, and a sort of liquid cool to a chamber chilled with the dry ice or similar? use something like car antifreeze so that the liquid won't ice up, and you might have a very good way to apply extreme cold (-20 or lower) to the CPU directly. You might have to use a real pump to get things moving though.

I would like to see you all 3D print a computer case then build in it. Might give you some ideas for the case you are going to be helping to design.

Jay turned that cpu into the T-1000 from the end of terminator 2 in that little KZread short he did, can’t wait to see what happens here

MOAR videos like this please. Especially more Nic and Phil. Also intrigued to see if Kingpin can bring some real attention to PNY in the US. Edit: stick your alcohol in the freezer first so it's not room temp when you dump it in.

In a vacuum, radiated heat should take good care of passively cooled stuff, as there is no longer an air blanket around them to insulate.

Cougar has a really nice new glass case that I think you could do something f'ing awesome with. Just saw it yesterday.

More mythbusters ish stuff please. I miss that and this is so close to it sometimes. Keep the crazy random experiments coming.

jay, rubber band on the thumscrew get a bolt and chuck it into the drill stretch the band between the two and turn on the drill SLOWLY and then ramp up as needed and it'll thread down (asuming there are no issues with the threaded bar

Insert the threaded rod into the chuck of your drill and go nuts. It works a treat. 👍😃

A minor point, but dry Ice does not evaporate at room pressure. Dry Ice sublimates. Evaporation is a phase change from liquid to gas, while sublimation is a phase change directly from solid to gas.

Oh come on Jay 😂 it’s almost the 4th of July 🧨🧨

You should submerge the motherbard in a non conductive mineral oil that runs through a pump to a cooler of some sort. Always wanted to see someone try that. You'd need to find one that wouldn't thicken up too much at cold temps.

@mostneuter

2 күн бұрын

wasn't there a case for a mineral oil submerged system a few years ago?

You could jury rig a loop on the cold side of a AC unit for the next experiment.

That was cool..maybe with Freon will be much better next time😊

Have you thought about mounting the MB vertically so that the condensation and alcohol drips away from the board instead of on to it. It might buy you some more tuning time.

how about making a functional chilled loop, something someone could do at home as well. keeps the loop cold but no condensation

Jason the science guy. Jayz! Jayz! Jayz! 👍

@jayz, explain all the upscalling techniques, frame generation and stuff like that. even I have problems understanding them

I miss the old air conditioner days. Not as extreme but still fun to watch him experiment.

These are my favorite eps.

Your "science" is improving! Best we can all try for. Two things, cooling isopropyl with solid CO2 does not boil the alcohol, it's actually CO2 subliming from solid to vapor creating bubbles that rise through the isopropyl. Also torching a pot is only for increasing temp delta to increase liquid to vapor phase change. You are getting better, keep it up!

Go to a cold storage with -40degrees Celsius and do the oc there you can do gpu,ram and cpu at once just take also a big af fan for condensation with you

For the nuts on the threaded rod, use compressed air to spin it, much faster

These are great fun.

JAY! Try using 189/190 proof Everclear if you can get it in your state. Ethanol has a slightly lower boiling point compared to IPA (not the beer) at a whopping 7 degrees F lower but evaporates slower. Don't bother with acetone BTW. Evaporates faster than both of those and much more flammable.

Idea for the next video: best overclocking with the worst value products of this current cycle (overclock all components, CPU, GPU and RAM) to see how far they need to go to be a good value. Love the madness of these videos!

The evaporated LN2 is still pretty darn cold, so as long as you don't pull too strong of a vacuum when operating it really shouldn't be an issue.