Honestly, the point where Nile tried to make cherry flavoring and accidentally created a war crime was one of *the* chemistry moments of all time.

@devoosdude9809

9 ай бұрын

He is Canadian so it’s kinda expected

@itsTyrion

9 ай бұрын

He what?

@vsGoliath96

9 ай бұрын

@@itsTyrion He uh... he miscalculated some things on his recent video where he tried to turn paint thinner into cherry soda flavoring and accidentally created a gas that is banned by the Geneva Convention because it was used as a dispersion weapon during WWI.

@omgdodogamer4759

9 ай бұрын

@@itsTyrion he made mustard gas or something

@vaeger2947

9 ай бұрын

If you take in to account his heritage it’s even funnier

Better Question: Can we trust NileGreen?

@GAFUKIS

10 ай бұрын

True

@informalchipmunk5775

10 ай бұрын

You can

@MaC_MoNeY415

10 ай бұрын

Can we trust Nile Blue?

@staskielkowski2797

10 ай бұрын

Phsss its mister now

@xenajin6827

10 ай бұрын

I'll do you even better: who's NileGreen

Now we need a third chemistry youtuber to see, whether we can trust Chemiolis

@skyethebi

10 ай бұрын

That Chemist sort of did that

@craigstephenson7676

10 ай бұрын

@@skyethebinow we need NileRed to see whether we can trust That Chemist

@skyethebi

10 ай бұрын

@@craigstephenson7676 I think NileRed should see whether we can trust Sir Humphry Davy. Check to make sure that strontium and potassium really exist.

@JaredBrewerAerospace

10 ай бұрын

I vote that we have NurdRage moderate all of this!

@serenitybysaf

10 ай бұрын

this aged well

in chemistry we don't copy video ideas, we REPRODUCE them

@Chico_Julio

10 ай бұрын

In all fields of science is done. And is a CRUCIAL step to theory develelopment, as a validation process.

@Wielorybkek

10 ай бұрын

@@Chico_Julio true, it just looks funny from the content creation perspective :p

@gizmothepiefaceman3062

10 ай бұрын

@@Wielorybkekonly kinda. While in creation you typically want to do what’s popular, and will get you more sales. In chemistry it’s more about what get you results

@lynianore7891

9 ай бұрын

And then we use clickbait titles

@trustmeimabiochemist3929

9 ай бұрын

peer review

off-handedly describing the chromyl chloride cleanup as "I then cleaned it all with water" when NileRed has an entire video documenting his own disastrous cleanup is just a little bit cruel

@Simlatio

10 ай бұрын

@@nontrashfire2 ...Stupid...guy! I SAID PLUUUUHHHH!

@Truth-And-Freedom

10 ай бұрын

But nile is a creepy little pee drinker

@Truth-And-Freedom

10 ай бұрын

​@@nontrashfire2shush with your childish nonsense dear. You don't get to pick what other people call you ......

@marcellvarga410

10 ай бұрын

my bad dude, it wont happen again man@@nontrashfire2

@craigstephenson7676

10 ай бұрын

@@nontrashfire2 assume deez nuts

“As a creator, I understand why he left out the yield. As a chemist, fuck you.” 😂

@129140163

10 ай бұрын

12:35 😂

@TheBearInTheChair

10 ай бұрын

Science and Medicine, one of the few places left in Academia where they throw hands😂

@TheBearInTheChair

10 ай бұрын

​@@129140163You are a gentleman and a scholar.

@Atetrigrams

9 ай бұрын

That made me laugh because everything else was so subtle or just a bit backhanded😭

@isaarunarom7830

9 ай бұрын

came to the comments to check for this before i wrote it myself, not dessapointed to see it as the 5th comment listed.

I don't trust him to bake cookies thats for sure

@GigsVT

10 ай бұрын

that was the duumbest waste of money. he's really gone downhill. money made him dumb

@error-4518

10 ай бұрын

@@GigsVT I bet he earned the money back tenfold, so not really waste of money in that sense lol. But yea money makes creators less creative overall I think.

@GigsVT

10 ай бұрын

@@error-4518 sure but that's part of the problem. If he can get revenue and patron for doing dumb stuff why would he even bother doing chemistry.

@maximianocoelho4496

10 ай бұрын

Its like a new mr. beast, he know what the platform wants, not what chem enthusiast appreciate. I wont deny that he started the chemistry movement in youtube, him and fire&explosions, but I no longer what his stupid videos, I mean, where is the use in cola made from gloves? I really miss when he worked in his parents garage, those videos helped me a lot in college lab (specially the caffeine extraction). Its an equipment for each video and it isnt used anymore. I see him releasing a video in after months, I wonder how the patreons feel about that.

@oohshiny8713

10 ай бұрын

Ann Reardon had a look at that, big issues were (1) the chocolate Nile used was 100% cocoa (most commercial dark chocolate is 80% cocoa, 20% sugar); and (2) the flour he used was "hard red spring wheat" - which is quite bitter - but also the flour was packaged in 2013. Using stale bitter flour and no sugar in the chocolate - there was nothing wrong with the recipe itself - the choice of ingredients is what killed it.

Nile red wouldn't want you to trust him, he'd want you to look at the source material, and others work too, same as he did.

@zandaroos553

9 ай бұрын

I don’t think Nile trusts himself let’s be real here

@AKATenn

9 ай бұрын

@@zandaroos553 True, how many scientist got themselves mamed, irradiated, killed tho... seems to be a risk they all take... i think tho, nobody should try this stuff unless they have the right equipment and know how to use it all, and actually know how to do the math... it's chemistry, not alchemy...

@royk7712

9 ай бұрын

@@zandaroos553 that's why he always drop and smash a lot of things, he's so frustrated by the reaction so he doesnt even trust himself

Well I do not trust him with my life, but otherwise I think he is okay

@EvanBoyar

10 ай бұрын

I'd trust more people with my life than I would trust to not finish my fries.

@AquibMohammedAyman

10 ай бұрын

@@EvanBoyar but can you trust a person with your life who DOES NOT finish his/her fries?

@saba-rr8dw

9 ай бұрын

​@@AquibMohammedAymanyes, because those leftover fries are becoming mine.

@malcolmhein1858

25 күн бұрын

I wouldn't trust him with my wife, either.

Name a more iconic duo than Chemiolis and the short-path Vacuum destillatilation apparatus . I'll wait.

@chuckcrunch1

10 ай бұрын

explosions and fire and plastic cups

@kaboom4679

10 ай бұрын

ChemicalForce and the stuff of our collective nightmares .

@ravencrovax

10 ай бұрын

​@@kaboom4679i was going to say ChemicalForce and way too many unnecessarily long slow motion shots.

@jerrysanchez5453

10 ай бұрын

Extractions and ire and tar

@mbainrot

10 ай бұрын

@@jerrysanchez5453 Explosions and Fire AND Extractions and Ire and Orange Chemistry

To be fair, he's not doing things to make effective processes, he's just kind of shitposting lmao (and he usually _does_ mention his yields, including those of less than satisfactory runs)

@Crawfishness

9 ай бұрын

His videos are largely for shits and giggles, and entertainment. If he was trying to make legitimate tutorial/educational videos, I trust he'd be more professional.

@izzydo3494

9 ай бұрын

Especially when half his videos are of him dropping things on the floor

@Arcanist_Gaming

9 ай бұрын

@@izzydo3494 He _does_ love to drop things on* the floor lmao. Who doesn't, though?

@chidori0117

9 ай бұрын

@@RoastCDuck Do you mean to say there was no established synthesis fpr Benzaldehyde so he had to create one? In which case no there are multiple and he did not have to create one ... if you are talking about another vid why would this be relevant here?

@samuestos6908

4 ай бұрын

"I wasn't even trying" To be fair, he deserves to not be appreciated by the chemistry community. To receive disdain from thorough chemists that don't have the attention he has. Nilered is a wonderful magnet to transform normies into amateur chemists. I love him for that reason.

With hindsight, things look messier than they ought to. It is a lot easier to break down a process and make improvements when you have a well edited, 30 minute video to follow to recreate and improve a synthesis. Creators like Nigel are a brilliant resource for providing followable, reproducible processes that are extremely atypical. You can find a million videos of people making "typical" synthesis, but as far as I know, nearly nothing that Nigel has done on his channel is provided elsewhere at any where near the same level of clarity. His videos on Aerogel and ferrofluid are quite literally one-of-a-kind public resources.

@jsalsman

10 ай бұрын

It kind of makes you wonder why professional academic chemists don't typically produce video content to go with their synthesis and analysis papers.

@ExarchGaming

10 ай бұрын

if nile has a problem, it's laziness. Not doing things properly because he doesn't feel like it. which is totally fine, but it does harm the educational purity of what he's doing. Sometimes I feel like he's lost his spark to create the content, as taking like 8 months to do a single set of reactions is wild. There are chemtubers that make weekly or at least monthly content doing the exact same thing that nile does. Thought Emporium has the same kind of problem, but i think he's a content creator second and a scientist first. at least as far as i'm aware. Nile happens to be the most entertaining, I feel though, E&F is as well, but he's even lazier than nile is, and he could really really do with some upgraded videography.

@dalfifran7572

10 ай бұрын

Not doing things properly when the guy using safety equipment and procedure rivaling many uni lab and far outstrip many youtube home chemist is a wild claim. As for taking months for project, i do agree it's slow, not sure about it's "lazy" since we don't know how many multiple project he have, what equipment/resource he need and wait, etc... @@ExarchGaming

@drewbabe

10 ай бұрын

@@ExarchGaming fwiw, not necessarily agreeing or disagreeing with you, but he's mentioned in his videos that his content creation pipeline has lots of things happening in parallel, and he often tries to make a video on something, fails, and scraps it. That's pretty common for any content creator who does stuff that requires lots of effort and/or time to make. With that said, most creators who do this have a period where they release stuff infrequently as their pipeline expands, but eventually they kind of "catch up" and are able to put out content regularly, it'll just be content that has been in the works for several months at a minimum. He's been like this for a while, so I can only guess that there are more reasons to it than simply just not having hit a good stride yet. Could be lack of ideas that are working out, lack of motivation or some other kind of burnout, over-focus on his side channels and tiktok/youtube shorts, or any number of other reasons. Only he and the people he's close to really know

@theexchipmunk

10 ай бұрын

@@ExarchGaming You are making one really big assumption. That his video are educational in the first place. They really are not, they are generally entertainment. Like how most historical sewing videos are also no intruction, but showing a process thats interesting to some, but mostly with the goal of entertaining and showing what you can do.

Nile Red is just great. He's huge because he is honest and humble and incredibly committed to improving the quality and variety of his content. You may complain that his videos are not that instructional but then again he's pretty much the only person in the world who can practice chemistry at that level just for fun. I think we should celebrate we live in a period of time in which that is possible.

@zpbeats3938

9 ай бұрын

Preach bro 🤙

@kIngshufle

9 ай бұрын

De tantos idiomas decidiste hablar factos

@thehipsterhamster1929

9 ай бұрын

Factos, jajaja el espanglish xd

@loll0l114

8 ай бұрын

Upvote

@lisaisa

8 ай бұрын

right because even if he gave us a step by step i’d probably end up killing myself LOL.. i am not a chemist

"trust is mostly irrelevant to science" Spoken like a man who has never blindly replicated a lab experiment from the 70's. Trust is like, 90% of not dying during experimental replication.

@draggy76

10 ай бұрын

by how much shit he has to look up and how little he most likely knows about science, i'd say you hit the nail on the head there.

@IAOIceland1984

10 ай бұрын

​@@draggy76​ do you think science is just experimenting wildly using your intuition? Just look at a scientific paper mate, we back up each and every sentence with a paper justifying the information in the sentence. You should not trust your memory in science, look shit up and confirm what process is best for each step of a reaction as well as possible reaction paths.

@UrbanJackJr

9 ай бұрын

​@@IAOIceland1984yet there are hundreds of unreproducible papers out there

@mozarteanchaos

9 ай бұрын

@@draggy76 sorry, do you think scientists actually just hold all information relevant to their field in their heads at all times or something? they're people, not computers.

@FullThrottleRacing535

9 ай бұрын

@@draggy76 Stupid reply to be honest.

"As a chemist, fuck you" came so far out of the left field.. Great one..

@129140163

10 ай бұрын

12:38 Those little things are what makes these videos so entertaining! 😂

@thecountrychemist2561

10 ай бұрын

That got me laughing. Same though. I need to know

"...requires advanced knowledge of chemistry acquired through many years of suffering" hit WAY too close to home for me. Ow.

>Want to fix errors of others >Handles dangerous chems with exposed arms

@abnorc8798

10 ай бұрын

Safety violations increase engagement via the comment section, which is far more important.

@aiexzs

10 ай бұрын

@@abnorc8798 i'm so so so sure you're thinking too far into it

@nathanlamaire

9 ай бұрын

​@@abnorc8798💀

@abhaybhatt4286

9 ай бұрын

It balances out with NileRed pouring the most dangerous shit without a funnel

That Chemist: “Can we trust Chemiolis?” Chemiolis: “Can we trust NileRed?” NileRed: “Can we trust Sir Humphry Davy?”

The clickbait we all deserve

First Explosions&Fire and now NileRed. Who's the next target for Chemiolis to start chemistry beef with?

@Yiiino

10 ай бұрын

Chemdelic? 🤔

@quint3ssent1a

10 ай бұрын

Prussian Blue. I bet Chemiolis will have a cardiac arrest once he catches a whiff of what this mad lad is cooking.

@T3sl4

10 ай бұрын

Heck with that, where's Greeniolis at??

@foxyfoxington2651

10 ай бұрын

Chemiolis takes down himself in a long, weird, recursive beef that loops until it eventually collapses in on itself and forms a black hole from which no views or likes or comments can escape. Make it happen!

@BillAnt

10 ай бұрын

I trust Chemiolis more than the other guys, this dude is good... really good.

To be fair to NileRed, he kind of makes a thing about not being that scrupulous with his method; like a soft-core edgyness. And I guess that's part of the appeal? But he appears to freely admit to cock ups, and from someone with just chemistry a-level (me) he seems to explain the chemistry well too. I see no reason not to trust him, at the level that I need to trust him. This video was also interesting though. Can't complain at more chemistry content.

@ashrowan2143

9 ай бұрын

Yeah I definitely don't have a high enough understanding of Chem to reproduce any of his tests myself but from the stuff I do know his science is solid he screws around and uses tools he doesn't need to for the fun of things so I trust that he's creating what he says he is to the level I need to which is fun science man who's making things for the hell of it

He's chemist with high-grade equipment and safety measurement. But we don't watch his channel for just science, but because he's entertaining us with actual science. It's called Edutainment, not online class.

@Yahya98

7 ай бұрын

Exactly. Well said. We don't watch his channel for science, but to fall asleep 😂

@platty9237

5 ай бұрын

I think that’s implied. This seems more like a challenge to see if the experiment is somewhat reproducible.

But why wouldn't you taste test something prepared with carbon tet and hexavalent chromium??😮

@EddieTheH

10 ай бұрын

Also known as "Detroit mineral water" 😁

@foxyfoxington2651

10 ай бұрын

That's what always got me about the original video: Making soda using the most carcinogenic and toxic route humanly possible and then drinking it for views.

@EddieTheH

10 ай бұрын

@@foxyfoxington2651 Confidence in the chemistry.

@justsomeguy5628

10 ай бұрын

Exactly. Any imperfections just add unique flavor that you will almost certainly remember for the rest of your life.

@TS-jm7jm

10 ай бұрын

​@@justsomeguy5628lol, for however long that ends up being

Today, I had my first analytic chemistry lab. It was only orientation, and going over sylabus, but I still managed to have a look around the (really old, like waaaaay too old) lab, and I saw a 2L bottle full of chromyl chloride (full), and as I leaned in, to read the label (wanted to know the year, and it was 1987), the teacher just came over to me, and just told me to keep away from that cabinet, as it was actually filled with a lot of other solutions, including some dichromates, and other. Let's just say, I'll be extra careful, not to knock anything over, as I will be working pretty close to it. The best part is, that the cabinet isn't even locked. And neither are the labs (why? I have no idea).

@urazon9465

10 ай бұрын

In my city there is a research institute which is the merge of several smaller labs. When they moved in their new, big and fancy lab, they lost some uranium rocks like ten years ago, nobody knows where those are to this day.

@xenajin6827

10 ай бұрын

Same in my college too😂. They haven't locked the cabinets and have some starting products to make explosives like trinitrotoluene💀

@moonik665

10 ай бұрын

The reason it's not locked is because it can defend itself.

@hendraibaraki

10 ай бұрын

Maybe for safety reason... If for any reason.. any of that chemical storage exploded.. fall or anything.. it will be easy to evacuate out of the lab.. instead locked in

@dangoldbach6570

10 ай бұрын

I was installing a fume hood in a lab and the ancient cabinet next to me had to move over. I opened the door and find a 1kg. Bottle of potassium cyanide smiling at me. Gently closed door, Backed out of room.

Nile red has a very advanced home lab and I think sometimes he over does very simple steps in procedures which more than likely impacts his yields :)

@gavincregan7892

10 ай бұрын

I think this exact thing whenever he touches anything that resembles a tool.

@ExarchGaming

10 ай бұрын

he's lazy, that's all. that's why his yields get fubared. it's part of his charm, same with Explosions and Fire.

@JaredBrewerAerospace

10 ай бұрын

Have you seen his new lab? He offhandedly has a tube furnace and an NMR that he's used once. It's far from a home lab.

@JaredBrewerAerospace

10 ай бұрын

@@ExarchGaming I feel that Nile tries hard to be a real chemist. E&F is a super smart dude and does it for fun, which is where I find the entertainment value.

@thejohnkaufman

10 ай бұрын

​@@JaredBrewerAerospaceE&F is also technically a physicist, which makes his chemistry shitposting in a shed even funnier

You forgot the part where he actually makes his videos entertaining.

'no drama', clearly made to start drama

You are asking can we trust nilered but I'm now asking can we trust YOU?!?

just seeing two chemist (amateur or otherwise) doing the same procedures can be very enlightening when it comes to lab techniques

Peer review and reproduction are two very different and very important processes in science. Peer review is when experts read and critique articles before they are published. Reproduction is when other labs try to reproduce the same results, like with lk99

Its really cool that you chem KZreadrs seem to be teaming up to test each other's methods and demonstrate peer-review to your audience in the form of entertainment. Keep it up!

I just generally like watching NileRed, as well as the other chemists including Chemiolis as well, as I like to see how they put chemicals together to make something, including my favorite, fluorescent chemistry.

@Vile_Entity_3545

10 ай бұрын

He makes very entertaining videos.

@mookinbabysealfurmittens

10 ай бұрын

You might like ChemicalForce (lots of glowing, sparks, etc. & nice shots) and StyroPyro (more into lasers & engineering but is a chemist proper, and lots of glow!)

@Vile_Entity_3545

10 ай бұрын

@@mookinbabysealfurmittens He makes the best. That video nearly a year or so ago that looked like a mini nuke was the bees knees.

@mookinbabysealfurmittens

10 ай бұрын

@@Vile_Entity_3545 I like Styropyro's little squirrel pal. And his newest full video (not short) is pretty impressive. There's more than one mushroom cloud!

@Isissa125

10 ай бұрын

im a tar chemistry man myself

Finally some drama in the youtube chemistry community (don't touch prussian blue you will end up finding a pipe bomb in your next delivery)

The quality of science on KZread is increasing constantly and I’m loving it. Peer review, reproduction, formal scientific disputes, it’s amazing. A whole new venue for scientific research, funded by the curiosity of viewers rather than the potential for industrial profit.

@birblover6423

9 ай бұрын

Im loving it honestly, never did i think i would see someone peer review nile red and its been 2 times now! Both incredibly done and educational as well :)

So, "amateur chemist in their 20s is inefficient and make mistakes" is somehow news now?

@TheSectric

3 ай бұрын

I like how he acts like Nile doesn't also constantly mention his method was inefficient. Like I swear one of his most said phrases in his videos is "there is probably a way better way to do this but here's what I did"

chemiolis once again proving that he's an attack chemist

Man, you should really be a bit more careful when distilling ether. The Setup at 11:03 screams for a fire. I've heard of many cases where ether fumes ignited on a hot plate, its really not fun. Make sure to use a roundbottom next time. D:

@MichaelLapore-lk9jz

10 ай бұрын

D-i-stilling! Not destilling!

@Peter_Lustik

10 ай бұрын

@@MichaelLapore-lk9jz fixed!

I am really curious how this channel will do in a year or two, i really like it, short, info packed, and from the looks pro safety chemistry videos. i dont understand half the things but your words make me partly understand it funny liquid man

I think that’s what’s crazy to me about chemistry is that there is so many different ways to try to get the same product but with varying results

I trust him enough that I don't need to watch this video.

I love this idea and hope you keep testing our NileRed's syntheses!

You just opend a paradox cause… how can I trust you?

man what a title... as a marketer and an SEO specialist... gotta give you credits for good homework and research... !!!! know that your genius is appreciated... content is also quality !! so double thumbs up on that.... Don't stop keep it up... 1 million subs await... :) Good luck

"As a creator, I understand... As a chemist, fuck you." literally just sums up a lot of his content tbh

@129140163

10 ай бұрын

12:35

This would be really cool as a video series

Now I wanna see if you can trust Nile green

@Nameless-rx8vw

7 ай бұрын

💀

Great idea, reproducibility is important

The way he just casually talks about using chromyl chloride and carbon tetrachloride otherwise known as the cancerous superduo 😂

Sure NileRed had a lot of screwups and this video does seem like he’s better and cleaner but let’s remember that this is a second attempt. As all things in experimentation goes, the 1st attempt usually gets most of the erroneous paths. Ergo, the 2nd has a much more straightforward way of getting it right, and in a cleaner way too.

😂 Ohh my gosh I love this so much! Amazing content, best wishes to you and your future projects! 🌻

Can I asked why you chose to use the short path distillation apperatus instead of a normal condenser? Was it just ease of setup or something in particular? Thanks for your videos, love them 👍

I'm a Computer Scientist with bad High School chemistry, I have no idea what either you or Nile are talking about. I still watch fascinated at you guys doing what looks like magic to me.

Two of the best Chemistry KZreadrs, I want them to colab and make met-.

@Crawfishness

9 ай бұрын

Methyl anthranilate!

Chemiolis is every other chemistry youtubers dad who fixes all their errors lol

@alexpotts6520

10 ай бұрын

New Chemiolis bio just dropped.

@BillAnt

10 ай бұрын

Chemiolis: "Hold my beaker, this is how it's done correctly!" haha

@vitamin9165

10 ай бұрын

the shade is so funny but also as an amature its ueful to see the reasoning behind things and all the little details that matter.

@damngood8476

10 ай бұрын

Well to be fair you have to do the mistakes first to improve on them so kudos to both :) science is about refining and progression

@vitamin9165

10 ай бұрын

@@damngood8476 Yup I agree Nile's videos are great

"In this video, I dunk on Nigel's chemical techniques and get better yields. "

First Extractions and Ire, now NileRed... who's gonna get their villain origin story next?

10:12 From my experience is advice that acqueous phase(bottom layer) is separated using the faucet instead the organic phase(top layer) using the upper part of the separatory funnel. Since most of the time the product of interest it's in the organic phase using this method you prevent contamination with what's in the acqeous phase

But what makes you think that we can trust you? 🤨

I have a question, in the first set of reactions why do you add NaCl to the mixture of the poweders instead of just reacting the potassium cromate with sulfuric acid and then adding hydrochloric acid ?

Thank you for the awesome videos. I thoroughly enjoy your content, and your sense of humor too.

i should start a chemistry channel and just mix random liquids together and just pretend to produce some chocolate or maybe gummy bears or something

@twosquids

9 ай бұрын

You have a promising tiktok career

Since I don't watch KZread to reproduce the video's I see, sure we can trust him.

i really appreciate chemiolis showing the mechanisms for this. with me taking my first orgo semester this year, its nice to be able to get used to them out of class!

Hi, slight question as you said around 9:30 min that the reaction included the formation of a carbocation, but also stated the reaction to take place in Basic conditions. I know you said there was no litterature about it but still wonder how could such a reaction take place (formation of Carbocation in basic conditions) ?

That chromyl chloride mechanism hurt my organic chemist's eyes and soul

A big explanation for how and why Nile seems to have his videos always be chaotic is just...how he is. Go watch him try to make anything that isnt necessarily chemistry- the "making my own chocolate" and "making a bismuth knife" videos are great examples of how you can see he reacts to things normally...as in, he really has no idea what hes doing, and just makes guesses, which usually turn out sliiiightly wrong, but mostly right. Not to say he isnt smart, at all, I'm simply saying he has no patience and can be disorganized

Funny because I literally just watched a video by `That Chemist`titled `Can we trust Chemiolis?`... lol. Who guards the guards, and all that.

@Anumera

9 ай бұрын

Was looking for this because the same happened to me. Can't wait for the 4th in the series, since is turtles all the way down.

I know you are dutch Chemiolis you cant hide your dutch accent from a fellow dutchman

This is genius! Make videos in a very similar way to nilered a channel who uploads like 3 times a year and then make a video with a clickbait title about him that would make nilered viewers curious so you get allot of his audience and because of the similar style allot will probably stay! edit: This is not meant to sound negative.

This is probably a tough question to answer but I keep asking it to myself (not a chemist): to what extent do we understand what goes on in a chemical reaction? like, say I wanna synthesise a given compound: is there in general a finite set of rules I can look up and use to eventually deduce a synthesis procedure, or will there be a lot of reaction-specific knowledge that requires a lot of trial and error?

@JossCard42

10 ай бұрын

As I (another non-chemist) understand it, we have a pretty good idea of what's going on inside a given chemical reaction, provided we know all the materials involved. Most of early chemistry revolved around A lot of chemistry projects are 80% figuring out what is going to happen on paper long before you start adding chemicals in beakers. If you're interested, the Crash Course channel on KZread has a series on chemistry that has helped me get a better understanding of what's actually happening inside those flasks and also briefly covers the big discoveries that led to our current understanding of chemistry.

@MDNQ-ud1ty

10 ай бұрын

ZERO. you have zero understanding of what is going on. What you learn is not what, how, or why BUT *when*. 99% of so called scientists completely fail at having a clue what they are doing and it makes them dangerous. Like a kid that has a gun and thinks he's a gun expert or a government that has nukes and thinks they are gods gift to humanity. All science is is models of reality(*MODELS*). Science works by making those models approximate reality until they no longer work to achieve new results(which is why science is stagnating now). Statistics/repeatability is what makes things work and provides the answers for the *when*. E.g., *When* I do X and Y and then Z I get Q. All science is is statistics applied to logic for approximate the cause and effects of temporal coherency. It works quite well because the universe is relatively stable currently.

@EddieTheH

10 ай бұрын

As with most science, it was all trial and error in the early days, when enough is discovered by trial and error for patterns to emerge, the picture gains more and more resolution, which gives us more data to make more accurate predictions. Now we have some pretty decent software to model reactions based on previously gathered data, which is more or less accurate. We can pick and choose chemical building blocks with various functional groups and how they behave (how to assemble and disassemble them), these narrow down the possible reactions to the point where organic synthesis is almost akin to Lego, only putting the blocks together isn't quite as simple. When it gets to the actual practical application, reactions are mostly predictable now, so we return to the trial and error to fine tune the synthesis. Tweaking variables one at a time until we get consistent, repeatable results. Chemistry involves a *lot* of repetition. Chemistry involves a *lot* of repetition. Chemistry involves a *lot* of repetition. 😁

@fmdj

10 ай бұрын

very helpful thank you both!

@MDNQ-ud1ty

10 ай бұрын

@@fmdj both doesn't include me since there are 3 replies in the last hour. I'm likely shadow banned, can you verify?

Just wondering... the rxn mech. he proposes (9min8") is there a temporary leaving group (perhaps from one of the solvents)? Also, for me, the video would be improved if he wrote up his solvents (and anything else present) in his eqns as I don't always understand them; particularly, when he says them quickly.

Wouldn't the chromium (VI) and the basic conditions generate some benzoic acid byproduct either due to oxydation or due to Cannizzaro reaction?

but can we trust you?

He's one of the few people I would instantly trust just from personality. I know you shouldn't but he is not purposely misleading, I think he has a more enjoyable way of doing things rather that doing everything for perfection. I guess it's a good way to get views to critique a bigger KZreadr.

Where did he get that station thing for the sep funnel? I've never seen a plastic thing like that. I want!!

I don't even know what you were trying to make but just watched the whole thing so facinated

As a chemical engineer, I leave it up to the chemists

This is a chemistry diss-track.

I'd love to see you an Nile make something cool together . that would be a great video

" as a content creator, i understand leaving out yueld, as a Chemist, fuck you" broo that had me CRYING 😂😂

Someone quickly inform NileRed let's get this youtube drama started.

@silksongoutyet

9 ай бұрын

can't wait for the diss tracks

You can definitely trust him to make something stinky

It's great to see other creators reproduce and improve upon popular experiments on youtube. Unlike other types of videos on youtube, I think people are more accepting of recreations when it's done with scientific experiments. Although the clickbait title on this video is not ideal, I understand that because of nature of this platform it is necessary in order to gain visibility.

I didn't even catch half of it as a bad chemist nor a bad English speaker but I subscribed for the love of snipping 😂👍

i trust nilegreen

I usually dont bitch about atom efficiency, but this Étard reaction is something truly horrendous. You want to oxidize something, but your oxidant remains still mostly oxidized in the Étard complex, so you have to add a bunch of reductant to workup your oxidation reaction... What an awfully wasteful reaction.

Now i feel we need a peer review of the peer review

nice video as always!

sensory analysis. my favorite analytical method.

Nilered should seriously publish a paper detailing every step he takes for his syntheses

Where did you get your mantle/? Looks so sturdy - I always think that when watching your vids….

was really expecting a saucy exposé, thumbnail game strong

I never took his videos as purely educational but playful and inspirational. I think people should take everything with a grain of salt if its not from an official governmental body and even then I'd hold a healthy amount of skepticism.

@shimmya

8 ай бұрын

That’s fair to assume but it would be great if he added a disclaimer about that somewhere

Waiwaitwait we're doing chemtube drama now?

I'm not sure we can trust this guy, might need a peer review.

i love how youtube science has gone so far that (even if as a meme) we have youtubers peer reviewing youtubers 20/10 meta content

One thing I'd like to add is that Nile is very honest and straight forward in saying that he is learning, and he is very open when things don't go his way, and you got to give him that

Im still waiting for him to attempt cloning polaroids instant film recipe. Paitently. Because when he does an overview video. Im immediately going to replicate it. ...couldnt be any harder than the time i tried (and was somewhat successful at) making silver gelatine.

thanks for the work!

You know. I am 100% for these playful jabs at Nilered. The subtle yet pronounced fuck you at the end was a chef kiss moment.