I've been told by people around me time and time again that sim driving doesn't translate to irl but the first time my car ever got loose, holding and correcting it felt like something I had done all my life.

@oatsmcgoats0182

2 жыл бұрын

I feel like it’s usually people who don’t use a sim/ aren’t fond of video games who say that kind of stuff. But of course it transfers over. The footwork and wheel work especially

@SimpleManMike

Жыл бұрын

Driving in a sim actually saved me from totaling my car, the car spun in a way that if I just mashed the break I would’ve just smash into a big curb and smash my rear end but thanks to the sim I knew to counter steer and smash that gas pedal to (drift) away from ending my 240sx

@jasonscrase848

Жыл бұрын

There is a video on utube that shows it transfers over quite well to someone who can already drive. Drive being the word, he doesn't drift but he drives and yet he managed to learn and feel in a few laps of the car

@ALFA_813

Жыл бұрын

You definitely take things you learn while sim driving into real life

@mikemartin1709

Жыл бұрын

the virtual drift champion got to drive an actual formula drift car and it took him like an hour to get used to it and after that he killed it, ended up tandem drifting with a pro and he killed that to, half these guys saying its completely different are just butthurt.

yeah I know a bunch of people that have also translated from sim to irl. id love to give it a go one day haha

@captainslav6528

3 жыл бұрын

Do it and don't give up if it doesn't work straight away give it time and over time you will notice you can actually do it I've helped many friends do the same and the same thing happens every time they struggle for a few weeks sometimes months and then suddenly it all just clicks and they can do irl what they did in the sim. But go to a track though I would not recommend the street for someone with no real life experience.

@slimecalltwin

2 жыл бұрын

@@captainslav6528 agreed

@prodbybabygod7411

2 жыл бұрын

My biggest problem is what is the most realistic setup to learn on? No point learning something that isn't real

@JohnDoe-fo8hp

2 жыл бұрын

@@prodbybabygod7411 Depends on how much you’re willing to invest. Most realistic would be a VR setup with a motion simulator rig. Which can get pretty expensive. DOF Reality makes motion sims you would want a 3 Axis sim. Also having a Direct Drive Steering wheel will give a realistic feel. Fanatec makes great steering wheels pedals shifters and handbrakes for realistic sim racing.

how to add the "fear factor": get a taser to the sim so that everytime you crash you get tased

@StopWastingTime0

3 жыл бұрын

Michael reeeeeves? On alt account

@fisken1

3 жыл бұрын

@@StopWastingTime0 lmfao i wish

@citizenfoffie7605

3 жыл бұрын

hi michael reeves

@camarada1996

3 жыл бұрын

also donate 100$ every time since crashing also hurts your wallet

@fisken1

3 жыл бұрын

@@camarada1996 at that point i'd not even want to play the sim anymore.

So it seems to me that you are trying to answer the wrong question. Based on your opinions, the question should be: Can you learn to drift in a simulator if you can drift irl. As the guy with the hat pointed out, transfering to sim from irl is harder because you take away information. Its the opposite the other way around. A sim drifter in a real car would not only feel the g-s, they would also feel it through the wheel. There is a good video around where a guy tries drifting a 350z for the first time with a ton of exp in the sim, and he could full send it in the 3rd lap!!! This is a good, informative video nontheless, keep it up!

@azagedon

3 жыл бұрын

James Dean has done it. Top tier pro drifter IRL and he tries out asseto corsa!

@Nxthhh

3 жыл бұрын

the question should not be a question but a title; sim drifter learns to drift irl

@Ali.Yousif

3 жыл бұрын

Could you link the video you are talking about?

@vitor-hc3os

3 жыл бұрын

@@Ali.Yousif kzread.info/dash/bejne/qoGdmcaIp9KqXdo.html there you go buddy

@Ali.Yousif

3 жыл бұрын

@@vitor-hc3os thanka brother

So to summarize the two questions: *Can you drift in sim if you drift IRL?* - Not as easy as someone would think, because you take away information (Gs, "Feel" of the car) *Can you drift IRL if you drift in sim?* - Yes, but you need some time to adjust to over-stimulation, but the overall muscle memory should remain quite similar.

@MaccaGreene

2 жыл бұрын

You are spot on. That's pretty much how I explain it to people nowadays wanting to go either direction too.

Can confirm it transfers, been on sims for years, jumped out at Grange after a couple street sessions and can hang like nothing

@overthehedge7591

3 жыл бұрын

Every person feel cars differently, it can be time consuming for some getting used or it can take no time for some.

@thomas9434

2 жыл бұрын

What Sims?

@Zenexe

2 жыл бұрын

@@thomas9434 sims are simulation setups or games. these are meant to add realism to your experience which is why people who use sim rigs on sim games for long enough can transfer their knowledge into reality

@carrot2851

2 жыл бұрын

@@Zenexe I think he was asking what sims they used not what are sims

i drifted in forza,gran turismo for like my entire teenage years with a steering wheel n when i got my license. i tried what i learned in the game n it worked.i was able to drift first time.clutch kick everyhting .results may vary btw

I've been sim drifting for 1,5 years and I still have 4 years ahead of me until I can get a licence. Which means that I have plenty of time to practise. yay :D

@wallmagnetracing8052

3 жыл бұрын

I know how u feel

@mrdorifto

3 жыл бұрын

Bro I'm EXACTLY The same as u

@teeter_1253

3 жыл бұрын

bruh i have like 7 years until my licence but i have been playing sim with a g920 for like 2 years now

@Dolmen2

3 жыл бұрын

same bro exactly like you. Ive been drifting for about 1.5 weeks on my Fanatec ClubSport 2.5 and it is amazing. It has such good Force Feedback and everything about it is amazing so thats why all of my gear is from Fanatec :)

@ktzzolo8072

3 жыл бұрын

almost 6 months in sim drifting for me, im pretty good, i have 2 more years till i get my license. This is gonna be fuckin AWSOME

I've bever felt anything more than when he was sitting in his cockpit on his phone because he was annoyed

Can't stand seeing tando buddies cars in videos like this. Glad to see the wdts cars being used near the end.

@ldn.billll

3 жыл бұрын

I got both and I’m new to sim drifting I’m only 13 what modded cars would u reccomed?

@goose4331

3 жыл бұрын

@@ldn.billll i drift irl and i really like driving the death wish garage cars, slide boiz for pro cars, clutch gang is OK just a bit arcadey and theres a whole lot more

@ldn.billll

3 жыл бұрын

@@goose4331 ok thanks I’ll get them tommrow after school :)

@lahtine876

3 жыл бұрын

@@goose4331 I think that new 800HP WDT Cars feel a bit better than slideboizz but yeah slideboizz is also very good

@goose4331

3 жыл бұрын

@@lahtine876 huh ive never ran those cars, ill try those later. Ive maily used wdts tbh cause i like the feel lower powered cars are more fun

having put over 1000 hours into assetto corsa, most of that being drifting, and zero hours drifting IRL i can say that if you put me in a real car i'd be a lot more confident now. I think the sim was hard to learn on, not feeling the car made learning the techniques harder.

@realtalk9195

3 жыл бұрын

I’m surprised that counter steering and catching a drift ain’t apart of your driving test because if you’ve got a powerful rwd and put you foot down too early coming out of a bend say bye bye M5 ffs. I think sim drifting gives you so much more confidence before getting a rwd in irl.

@harmonicposting

2 жыл бұрын

@@realtalk9195 agreed, my friend is currently borrowing a shelby and he says if he didnt learn drifting on forza he probably would have crashed by now i still think hes exaggerating but its interesting

i mean.... thats probably one of the worst wheel setups i have seen

@magical5181

3 жыл бұрын

Ahaha the disrespect

I think it's probably easier to go from sim to real than from real to sim. In real life you get so much more input, in sims you make do with tiny amounts of information, often relying purely on visuals. I drive better on real tracks than in games as well, I really need the feeling of weight transfer, without it I'm a bit uncomfortable.

Great documentary! I’ve been doing the same thing - using Assetto Corsa and GTS to practice drifting/road racing at my home course, Willow Springs. I’ve been running the sim hard for about a year now, and find myself improving both irl and sim racing each time I get to the track. What I learn in sim transfers to the track, and what’s learned at the track then transfers to becoming a better sim racer.

@orian1427

3 жыл бұрын

Man thats actually pretty cool that you have a track you can experience in sim and in real life. wish I had that around here tbh

I think sim drifting is transferrable to real life, but not the other way around, because sim racers learn to drift with less information in terms of G-forces, but with the same physics.

@Maaaaaax-07

Жыл бұрын

Well if you can go from one the other, the other way around is possible. The only examples I have right now is Haugen Racing (youtube)

My experience so far Day one i couldn't drift at all, took a good 5 hours of practice and still couldn't drift. Next day it was like learning how to ride a bike something clicked and i could drift tracks as if i always knew how to drift. Now its just the same as learning how to drive a bike you can't forget how to drift. a good year later and now i can tandem closely without crashing. But i have yet to actually go out into a track and drift. One day. . . .

@magical5181

3 жыл бұрын

Nice

@slightlyinsaneraf

3 жыл бұрын

Same here, rough beginning, took me some time to learn how to hold drift and even longer to do decent transitions haha first few months it was rough, but I didn't put much time into it. When covid and lockdown started, I couldn't drive my real car, so I've put good 3 months into it. And from being ok at drifting, I went to very advanced level. Over a year later now... Absolutely destroying the track. Solo, tandems, racing anything.

@magical5181

3 жыл бұрын

@@slightlyinsaneraf good man, I’ll make sure to support you!

@lordoftherims436

2 жыл бұрын

Is it fun. Is it worth it? How much does the pedals and wheel and game cost, what game would you get, what shifter?

Know you guys have been busy but glad to see a post from you all.

Really glad to see another upload .... love you guys and your content. ❤️

Drifting in the snow or on a frozen lake is just like sim.

Damn this video took a hard turn at the end lol. Started Sim drifting a while back, I want to get a cheap drift car and start taking it sideways hopefully by the end of 2023! Great video, thanks for staying true to your opinions and not being afraid to voice them, even though a year earlier you guys felt completely different. Big preesh and keep it going!!

My dad bought me a Logitech Wingman FormulaForce GP wheel in year 2000, i was 9 at the time, and it came with a game called Sports Car GT - a pretty underrated game for the year. Since then i've been playing so many racing games. (Loving ACC right now) In 2005, when i was 14, me and my friend were at the local mechanics / car graveyard. They had a self made 800m gravel track and the guys wanted to do lapped times with an old, absolute shitbox 1980 Mitsubishi Lancer and they also invited us both to do lapped times. I had never even done a burnout with a car, just a few slow drives with my father next to me. When i got behind the wheel of that shitbox, put the helmet on and when i started my few laps of time attack, i remember thinking - oh, this is just like at my computer. I knew what i had to do, i had an approximate muscle memory from racing games, although, we did not have sims like today at the time - i did play almost every racing game i could get my hands on and the many types of games i've played up until that point, did give me some idea of what to do at certain situations behind the wheel. Long and behold, i beat everybody at the track that day. From that day i understood that you can actually learn to control the car through racing games (mainly sim racers obv) before you actually sit behind a real car. I have shocked many friends in my life with how i can handle a car, how i'm always fastest when we go kart racing, how last year i beat a racedriver/instructor at the track he works at, with the car he works with - a Subaru Impreza WRX STI 2018 ~300Hp - in conditions like a bit of snow, bit of dry track, bit of puddles and around +3c° temp. Man was that a blast! (Best birthday gift ever) He couldn't belive that my only car i owned up until then was a Opel Vectra B Caravan. Then i told him that i've played sims racers a lot and that the skills are mainly from that. And he couldn't belive that either :D

Really high quality video! Am hugely surprised this doesn't have at least 8x more views

Rhys did, he won DMVC and went and drift a real 900hp car and nailed it like a pro.

As someone who drives both real life and sim yes it absolutely helps real driving it's the same skills but it takes time to get used to the differences a lot of people spend 5 minutes at it and think it doesn't work because they didn't give it enough time. I went from only sim to breaking a lap record in competitive karting on my 4th race. Sims do help tremendously and talent is irrelevant to someone been able to transfer from sim to real life because talent is proportional between the two if you are shit at one you will be shit at the other and if you are good at one chances are given time to adapt to the changes you will be good at the other too. Yes there are many variables like the danger and how your eyes read 2d and 3d etc and it's not always exact but it certainly helps your real driving especially with developing a sense of speed and grip. There is no way I could drive well irl without the help of a sim.

Sim 100% helps you drift irl. Not entirely but as a fairly new driver who's never drifted it helps you understand the basics. In the position of someone who already owns a car and drifts I feel that it helps a lot less as you already have a real life understanding of how drifting is.

@stunttijoona7897

3 жыл бұрын

yeah sim teaches a lot of important stuff like throttle control

I remember watching a program on British Television years ago something similar to this. The bloke was then put into a blue subaru WRC car & he rolled it in the first corner. Was hilarious 😂

I never drifted in real life but I have been in assetto corsa and car x drift racing for about I think is almost 6 months, and I still do believe it can teach you how to drive because that's kinda the purpose of sim racing, it eliminates the fear from real life so you are not scared to try a different thing because it won't cost you your life or money and you don't have to worry about anything bad happening. It also teaches you how drifting works, like when I first started I was super restrained over the wheel now I let the wheel do its thing and hold on to it when I'm holding a drift, sometimes I push it to counter-steer faster to catch the car from spinning out. But I wish I could try it in real life I just don't have the car nor the money lol. Dope vid though!

Another key thing about learning how the car is reacting is the sounds the car makes. And this is even more true for rally racing, you can hear the terrain and how the tires are moving over it. You can also hear if your tires are locking up, or you have a lot of wheelspin.

I’ve been sim driving and drifting for a couple years now, and just recently picked up my first FR car and pulled my first real drift a couple weeks ago. Sim drifting definitely helps

Disgustingly under-rated video. You shouldn't have finished it so quickly dude, you should have added credits. This is documentary level production. Good shit.

this guy is crying for not having a full sim,and i cry because i dont even have a wheel,shifter and pedal

@emmanuelavila1081

3 жыл бұрын

Ngl after a while of having it you get bored but when u actually learn and get the hang of it its so rewarding

@capitalkittycat1272

2 жыл бұрын

@@emmanuelavila1081 is it worth it

i have over 700 hours in ac. this gives me hope that once i get my own project car that i will either quickly adapt to the car, or b already know how to just based off muscle memory

@Danknermal

3 жыл бұрын

i just broke 700 , im trying for 1k and maybe 2k before 2022

@JoseJavierRR315

2 жыл бұрын

@@Danknermal damn

From experience of over 850+ hours on my wheel and going from never drifting irl to linking corners and hitting 360s on my first time in a underpowered e36 I can say with certainty that it helps and allowed me to understand the fundamentals, basics, and muscle memory the only difficulty I had was adjusting to the clutch and e brake but once I was sideways the only thing that felt unnatural was that I was actually moving and being thrown everything else was easier if not more intuitive than sim racing

Uses G27, plays with Tando Buddies cars... What else could you expect... By the end of the video they used WDT Street cars... Halleluiah. I personally use a TM T300RS, T3PA pedals and TH8A shifter with my s13 shift knob, along with an Oculus Rift. I've had pros like Jeff Jones actually comment on the Link ECU server how great I was in keeping up with him.

@freshz.

3 жыл бұрын

it is just tons of confusion around with these guys, i couldn't drift irl, didn't want to crash it too, so i now for 6 days straight practiced in sim, from time to time jumped in my car and tried it, all went super good, it isn't so hard.

@Egi_4658

3 жыл бұрын

The main problem of his g27 is the wheel, so heavy. I got the g29 stock and I can tell you that is so good to drift on assetto corsa. Theese logitech wheels can be really bad if you mod them with big and heavy wheels.

@cesarjuniorcardoso1

3 жыл бұрын

@@Egi_4658 his problem was using the tando buddies car pack

this is cool, i love drifting i havent personally done it before apart from on assetto, tomorrow i actually get to jump in as a passenger in a friends car and feel how the car works in the real world, so ill be studying everything he does in the car and how the car moves and how it feels, and hopefully learn more, i'd love to in the future purchase a bmw or similiar and actually be able to learn to do it on a track, i find it to be to me the most exciting motorsport apart from rally.. and knowing that doing it in a sim can help with that is so damn rad

It absolutely translates, usually people who say that are people who never sim raced and can barely drive in a straight line

underrated vid

From my experience, which was interesting, I use nothing but a G27 and BeamNG drive to try and learn to slide cars, I couldn't slide RWD in them for the life of me, but AWD I was ok at. I went to my first Skid Control event and drove their GC8 (RIP them not having it anymore), and I could feel the wheel in a similar way, though not that noticably, I noticed it more when I got back on the sim afterwards and I could drive the AWD's better than before, I think because I now understood to a better degree what I was feeling through the wheel. Fast forward to the first mod I did on my GC8 after I bought it, which was installing castor adding arms, suddenly the sim didn't feel the same, obviously steering angles and response now changed. So a different car in BeamNG feels more like mine, which is interesting, because I went from understanding a BMW/AUDI version to an amalgam WRX/EVO, which kind of made sense considering the GC8 now wanted to rotate a lot more readily. It's been nearly a year now since I played the sim, between houses at the moment, temporary house doesn't have room for me to store my wheel. Something I'll be looking at doing is building a small motion sim at home, nowhere near the level of VR Motorsports, but still cool

i think it depends on simulator and on car you have irl because , in sim you have different car with different setup and things like this

Thanks for the vid, I didn’t buy a sim 6 months ago for no reason lmao. Qr is sooo sick wanna go there again Edit: btw those cars aren’t the most realistic try the wdt car (world drift tour)

in vr you can look around and instantly judge the amount of rotation and where you are, plus you can of course look at the direction you are moving instead of the direction the car is facing, which is incredibly important for drifting. also a better wheel than a g29 would help massively, i just upgraded from a g29 to a t300 and the difference is night and day. so i think you can learn to some extent in sim racing, you would need to learn in a similar car though. like the cars in assetto corsa are made for drifting .most people irl cannot afford a $100k drift car, and the skills will not translate to your daily driver. like my altezza irl the wheel barely spins on its own, but drifting in assetto corsa with the t300 you just let go of the wheel and the self aligning torque spins it super fast and you grab it and you are away and drifitng. but a lot of irl cars you have to throw/ feed the wheel because the self aligning torque/ powersteering/ worn out suspension and steering components/ bad wheel alignment etc all weaken the effects of self aligning torque, slowing them, adding too much friction etc. plus most cars in ac have massive steering angle, hydraulic handbrackes, tuned engings and gearboxes for drifting. brake balance, suspension, toe in out, locked or lsd diffs. etc etc. but the basic skills are definitley transferrable to some extent. even if it only saves you half an hour track time. it does help, but hundreds of hours in a sim dont account to hundreds of hours irl, probably more like is say, half an hour. that being said i am only just learning to sim drift myself so i am speaking out my ass here. lol. ignore everything i said.

that guy go said no with no reason at all and then said idk.. bro thats such a valid argument man

I’ve owned rwd cars & done a bit of drifting, bit of streeto & a couple skid pad days. I bought a 325ci that i properly drift prepped & I’ve sweated a few months into my boys sim (it’s a decent set up and I put my OMP wheel & seat on it while my car was in bits) the next time I got in my Beemer, everything was easier, all down to muscle memory that I’d learnt on the sim. Biggest disadvantage is the indestructible clutch, I cannot use my clutch irl like I can on a sim. It would get very expensive.

You can learn to listen for the revs, throttle brake control, how to under/oversteer. But like he said you don't have a feel of the car. I.E, the cars weight, the GS it pulls with transitioning corner to corner

That one UK dude learned to drift in a sim, got in a 900hp silvia and handled it like a pro man. Look it up

After drifting in assetto for a while I was done with gaming and bought a e36 and welded the diff and went out to a event and was sliding like I've done it before and was by far not the worst driver out on track who had done multiple trackdays. So yeah a sim really helps you to controll the technique and muscle memory etc in my experience. Only driven ff cars before this first rwd experience.

@alguiendeinternet2409

3 жыл бұрын

Bro, i love your car, that paint job is AWESOME. Btw is nice to hear stuff like this, im iniciating on asseto drifting and i want in a future to start drifting irl. Good bless from Spain and keep that nice car ;)

@theslidingdutchman

3 жыл бұрын

@@alguiendeinternet2409 thnx bro. I Appreciate it. And it will be destroyed its a driftcar after all. But always come back better right. It used to be stock before my first crash😅.

@alguiendeinternet2409

3 жыл бұрын

@@theslidingdutchman Build, drift, destroy and repeat. Thats the point of drift cars, enjoy and repair :p

@swagga2612

2 жыл бұрын

makes me feel really good cause ive been getting better at drifting ever since last year and i get my license in 2 years. cant wait

@thomas9434

2 жыл бұрын

What games?

the anserw is yes. its from my own life. I was playing AC and i was drifting pretty good, so i tought i would maybe buy a real car and do that too? When i first time got sideways it was something diffrient (prob cuz of g forces or smth) but i got it after 2-3 days maybe and that that i learned from a simulator changed a lot. If u are trying to drift from a simulator to reality just do it :) (sorry if i misspelled something but english is not my 1st languange)

few years ago we had a ps3 and we where playing thes car games on a controller in a game wich was amazin in these times. kwom 10 years later we can drive a car on a computer

@crf450rl

3 жыл бұрын

I remember driving a sim just as good as this back in 2006, was a sti on a big hydraulic arm thing. You sat inside it and it would react to your driving perfectly. Windscreen was just a big screen plus screens on left and right doors haha

We shall see! Before sims, I’d slid a few cars like a Miata and a E92 M3, but it always felt sketchy and a little out of control. I started sim racing and can link tracks and tandem with any car in any car pack (with varying levels of success). I’m about to buy an IS300 for dedicated drifting and this video gives me hope that I have a strong base to grow from. Awesome video!

@PrinceNeverLazy

3 жыл бұрын

Update with how well it's transferred for you. I'm buying my sim this holiday season

@Kona61

3 жыл бұрын

@@PrinceNeverLazy Well I didn't buy an IS300. But I did buy a E36, E46, and currently a HR 350Z lol. It went great. I can drift pretty decently in real life. Definitely takes some getting used to. It all depends on what car you use in game. I highly recommend the WDT cars to learn real car control.

@experiencewithmartin972

2 жыл бұрын

@@Kona61 Have you tried the gravy garage ones ?

@Jaybuii

Жыл бұрын

@@Kona61 how is it going ? I’m in the market for a 350z now

@Kona61

Жыл бұрын

@@Jaybuii It went well, see my videos lol. I had a 350Z and G35. I personally like my mustang more.

This is awesome!!!

I just watched a guy named Rhys who only drives a simulator go hard on a 900hp s15 drift car and nailed it never crashed at all just went HAM on it

great video boys

i am now 14 and i got a g920 to learn sim drifting with the hope i can learn to drift irl one day

Settings matter. That's all I'll say. G-forces missing is a major drawback even tho the sim's force-feedback compensates for them quite well. And VR. VR really helps.

@MaccaGreene

3 жыл бұрын

oh absolutely.

That was awesome.

This just felt like a documentary to me

i played Assetto Corsa with a bunch of mods, only drifting with Thrustmaster T300rs for +500h without ever driving a real car, and of course no license (parents only let me drive their car in a parking lot like 3 or 4 times in my entire life) I bought my first car (1997 323i e36 bone stock. Very very soft suspension, open diff) before i had my license and ever got into any class. A friend of mine drove us to an empty parking lot so i could try it. I didn't even have the sensibility of the brake pedal yet so everytime i was trying to brake i would bend our necks in the process 😆 but when i tried to drift i had little to no problem. I could hold the drift for as long as i felt. Transitioning was a problem though but i think that was more because of open diff and abit because of suspension. Now i've got a BC set and welded diff and i linked the whole circuit at my first drift event, with 8 months driving experience. So it *IS* posible

Once you understand a car and what every little part does and how you can use it, you'll notice yourself excelling But if ur not into cars Don't try It will be extreming hard to get motivated to continue with the dream of being a drifter

One thing that made drifting in a simulator much better and easier to do was using VR to drive the car as you can point your head in the direction of the car movement

See I did this the oppo I learned in my 350z then recently got a Sim. I was fully shocked when I couldn't hold a drift or consistent angle. It took me a couple weeks to get assetto down

Its pretty simple. People coming from simracing usually have no problem to use their skillset for real life racing/drifting and so on. But people who only have made experiences in real life struggle a lot at first when starting in the Simulated world. Its just that Simracing is much more difficult compared to the real world. Even real world pro drivers do struggle when they try simracing for the first time. Because real world drivers are used to use their gravitational senses. In simracing you need to use your brain way more. That’s why simracing is very difficult for anyone trying the first time. What you see a lot, is pro drivers spinning out in the sim.

I’ll say this I got an idea how to drift from sims now I’m pretty good myself for someone who just drifts for fun

Long time no see lads. Hope you're doin well.

My bigger question is what car pack are they running in ac, I have around 72 hours drifting now on it and have friends with more experience and we have all noticed car packs make a huge difference, like adc 420 cars will feel 100x different from a kunos 420hp car not saying one is better than another but the difference is huge, I started on the tando buddies car pack and it was easy and fun, and I switched to WDTS cars and had a totally different experience. Adding to this I noticed they used tando buddy cars for b roll and from what I could tell was also on tando buddies drift playground servers, that are really not the realistic at all, cars never over spin and or lose grip like a real car. Overall this video was good and still acutely show what sims can do but some information was left out that I feel was crucial in the early feelings shown in this documentary

@driftkid270

3 жыл бұрын

Probably the only reason why i stopped using tando buddies and switched to wdt.

I've been using a sim to get the knowledge down i touge alot in IRL but the sim helps me save alot ofoney testing out techniques heel toe, double clutch, faster shifting without burning my tranny on the subie.

There's this thing called the FOV..

Sim does translate to IRL, if you use a belt driven or direct drive wheel base and not a gear driven wheel like the G27 in the video

@paulinhoFILMS

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this and the fact that they really didn't tune that g27 properly! I had one and I can tell just by the way it handles that it is so wrong and seeing their opinion based on badly tuned setup and wrong cars just annoys me lol

haha.. I've never played a driving simulator game. But I've been playing GT ever since it came out in the PS1. Then when I hit the right age to finally be allowed to learn to drive, I don't think people have any idea how I've transferred my arcade racing games skills to real life driving. I've only killed the engine a few times the first few days (It's manual, because God knows how you can be fast without engine brake. IDK anything about auto, so if you know how to engine brake on it, good for you. But you still can't sell me an automatic car. :P). But after that, it's almost like I've learned real life driving immediately. Thanks to playing racing games all my life.

I think the thing is its easier to learn and go from sim to real but not the opposite. For example if you go from a basic g920 or g29 setup desk setup to seething like a fantec mounted setup and then try to go back to your old setup everything just feels so basic and crappy. Just like I'm sure going from drifting a real car down to a sim would feel so different. Point is I think the people who say it's nothing a like are the people going from real to sim and not sim to real.

This is the cutting edge of tech being good

that guy at 1m35s is so frutrated to be shit at the simulator, he's so negative, simulator will help you to drift in real life of course lol, don't break hopes like that, the only thing which is hard to transfer is the real sensation of the g-force feeling the weight of the car through your hands and arms, perhaps the perception of speed (depends at how much fov you're playing the sim at) but it definetely helps you a lot to drift irl YES. As hayeduce said you trying to answer the wrong question. Ofc you take a guy from sim to real he will be lost, but trust me give him 1 or 2 days he will be at your level in an instant ;)

12:39 answer your were looking for

I got just over 400 hours in Assetto. I've pretty much mastered WDTs s13 😂 Hoping sometime soon I can come across a cheap project car and get some real seat time. It'll be illegal as it gets though, no tracks for miles in my area lol

@abellsatime378

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Similar boat we are in lol

Its not a direct translation but the majority of the basics are there. More than enough to get a good idea of how to handle a car while trying to drift irl how the wheel feels when initiating and transferring throttle control. G force for me has nothing to do with it yeah that stimulation isn't going to be there but if you've been into cars before sims you feel the whole car through the wheel how its griping where the position of the car is at. No your not going to learn how to drift just through sims and you pick up a lot of bad habits. Hand postions on the wheel throttle control. Simple things like that also transfer over.

Good video I like it a lot but would be even better if noone would work for the company selling you sim racing tickets, depending on people coming there to learn how race cars.

Premiered 69 minutes ago, nice.

The success of GT Acadmy drivers would like to disagree with the second dude (I've been fortunate enough to race with a few of them). As someone who has raced/drifted IRL and in sim, it does translate. It's not a perfect 1 to 1, and there are definitely some humps to over come. But you can get a good enough idea with a sim. In fact, I'd say that transitioning from sim to a real car is easier than the other way around. Everything you need to feel, you feel through the wheel in a sim since you don't have the feel of motion. It takes less time to adapt to feeling actual motion than it does trying to adapt to the feel of motion only in the wheel.

Change your mod Cars from tando buddies to wdts or something what have good config

Sims ftw... The best amateur drifters tend to be Sim drifters. All those young drifters who are buttery smooth when they drift, started off on sims & because of the amount of seat time they have. Skill wise their better than people who never drifted. Just takes them time to adjust to the G's then they outskill everyone and rank up to semi pro level above

In the sim u must practice precision and learning without crashing like parking lots before turns

as a sim racer, sim were created to memorize and practice tracks layouts which trains the muscle memory for al reason of car physics and dynamics. try a motion rig a 6dof hexapod its will change your opinion about not feeling G. and Gtsport academy is bs compare to really sim coaching academies. console are for wanna be forza sim racers where as pc that a league of its in the sim world. ps upgrade to direct drive wheel with load cell pedals

What if you get a basskicker?

maybe if you upgraded the setup to simulate the exact g force of a real drift car with a vr headset to add on then i definitely think you can learn how to drift through a simulator and then be able to transfer those skills in real life 100%

Ah drift playground, the classic

What sim is that? Name plz or some other good one.

If you can drift very well in assetto corsa, you can definitely do it in real life but you need to understand the car weight and force feed back

Diego higa is the best drifter in brasil and he said that yes you can lern a lot in simulators...

yet here i am playing on mouse and key and i never complain about a single disadvantage i have

matt wearing counterparts tshirt!!

you need a proper setup that FOV scale is too far away from your vision. achieving 1:1 vision is needed for prople simulator setup.

Macca come around after an archy event and I’ll show you how to drift on a sim properly

I can drift on the sim and recently bought a front engine RWD car so I will soon find out

What game is that

I liked the video but I was kinda getting annoyed how some of the people were saying it’s not possible because they couldn’t do it when they first jumped into the sim.. many people who’ve went from sim to irl would tell you drifting in sim will help you because it’s harder. I know it sounds strange but in a car you physically feel the back kick out we’re in a sim you kinda have to just hope you’re catching the drift at the proper time unless you have some crazy expensive setup with a real motion sim chair. Edit : plus a huge problem is one that’s mentioned a few times. In a real car you’re a lot more careful and cautious what you do where as in a sim most of the time people just go balls to the walls because they know a crash is fixed by a simple restart button lmao

Eh... It's obviously not the same because in an average simulator you don't have SO many missing inputs necessary to learn IRL drifting. BUT I think sim drifting gives you the basics and that's more than enough. Once you get used to the many different sensory information like car weight and weight change and breaking and sliding and slipping etc and etc... You'll be good. We COULD say that a sim drifter might learn IRL drifting slightly faster than some one just straighing jumping into IRL drifting. But unfortunately the opposite can be true, it might cause a delay in learning depending on that persons expectations of the IRL experience and how set they are on having the SIM experience.

logitech g29 is not a good steering wheel in terms of sensations for that you need to spend and go for a fanatec, but hey logitech to start in the sim is more than good

First half of this almost made me go baby rage in the comments ngl, glad I didn’t good vid sick skids 🤙

Need good wheel base t300 or higher

Dear sir vr what name model

Yes