Tim, if you want to get the titanium to work harden then you need to cause actual _plastic deformation_ to occur. You need something that will create actual divots in the face of the hammer! Needles and flat face hammers only get you a little way there. You need a heavy hard steel hammer with a small radius tip, and use that with force so that it will actually leave little _visible_ dents/marks of 1.5 to 3 mm. If you can see that you leave some mark/impression on the surface you know you're letting the material flow plastically, and _that_ is what work hardening is!

@seldoon_nemar

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This. Aerospace Shot *peens* their parts. they literally sandblast it with 1/4" ball bearings. The real question is if you can then polish that surface and retain it's mechanical hardness huh, I wonder if you could just put a ball bearing in an air hammer tool and do basically what he did with the needle scaler. that or just temper the tip of a normal bit considering he's got all the gear for it already

@bigbird2451

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What about putting the head in the mill or lathe and just purposefully doing a bad job of cutting the face flat. Just the right king of cutting too slow or something?

@Hydrazine1000

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@@bigbird2451 Assuming that you deliberately use the wrong cutting insert, the wrong feed rate and cutting depth, you definitely can get the tool to smear, rather than cut. And yes, that would work harden the material too.

Engineer here. Titanium definitely work hardens, it is also prone to realizing the hardening very rapidly. So the 5 minutes of needling would possibly have realised the amount of hardening that was possible with the hammer. As far as I'm aware, to get titanium to a RHC of over 50, you need to do surface hardening, this is done with diffusion hardening. I'm not an expert on that, but it takes many hours and a lot of energy in terms of heat to get the desired result.

@purplebooger6410

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It would be cool to see him team up with a company that specializes in hardening for a hammer!

Hi Tim Great video as usual. So that where my tire gauge is. No problem. I bought a new one so I can check 5 - 7 PSI for the quad tires.

@Moondog-wc4vm

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Can you possibly suggest a formula to convince my adult kids to return all the tools I 'loaned' them? I have so many empty drawers and hooks. I've asked for my kit back, and they're too big to put over my knee, so any hints would be a really big help 😉😉

@wesandsharondyck4363

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@@Moondog-wc4vm

@wesandsharondyck4363

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My oldest son had the same problem. His solution was that it is ok to take the tools but if they are not back when he needs them the tool box is locked until they are returned. I think its working.

@Moondog-wc4vm

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@@wesandsharondyck4363 😅😅 It's working for my son! He's OK, but I need to borrow my tools back from him to do simple jobs. That would be fine, but he asks for them back almost before I finish the job.

@UnbreakableIcePick

Жыл бұрын

Gift the kids the old tools. Gives you an excuse to buy new 😉

I’m still very impressed on how you forged a titanium Blacksmithing hammer. My last job I had to weld titanium and it wasn’t fun because it was so sensitive to bluing and contamination

If you did a titanium framing hammer, I would 100% buy one as a present for my dad who has worked construction his whole life.

@franksworld9922

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That would be an awesome gift. Great idea 💡 👍🏻

@truefoxtrot2884

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he already has done it about 2 years ago, look up "making A TITANUIM FRAMING HAMMER" (by him)

I remember watching u forge that hammer, it just doesn’t feel like 2 years ago already. I think you were the first person who’s channel I ever actually subscribed too, and you haven’t disappointed yet. I miss robomartin in the background 😂

Timothy, I really like your old school shipping crates you use for your axes. The only thing that I believe would make it better would be to use wood wool as the packaging material instead of crinkle paper. Wood wool, AKA wood excelsior is what was used to pad out shipping crates 100 years ago. It is what you see inside crates in historically based movies.

You should test a store bought titanium hammers hardness. Great videos, good job.

Your mannerisms remind me of my brother's mate who lived with us for 15 years, and you look similar to my judo sensei (he was for 21 years), and the nostalgia hits hard. It's really great to watch. And then your videos are great.

Upvote for the epic Rocky like music montage when searching. If you had run up some stairs and stood in front of a statue at the end I would not have been surprised.

Thanks for the update - love the old landcruiser!

Awesome music in the background Tim. Amazing axes and hatchets too, like freaking amazing, keep up the good work.

What a great video. Thanks Timothy!

glad to see my idea (and many others i'm sure) kind of worked to at least even out the hardness! we got more titanium hammer content and that's always good!

You should take a scrap piece and put it on the power hammer with a fuller top tool. Then go to town on it. If it will work harden that will do it.. please try it

Those hatchets and axes looked so good great pairing of wood to the heads.

The inaccurate readings will be coming from an uneven surface. Hardness testers are measuring in ..0001 increments per .5 HRC. You need a nice smooth atleast 120 grit finish. If you do that I'd be you will probably see a 1-2 HRC jump and much more consistency across the readings. Very cool to see the difference in needle scaling vs as is. Keep up the great work

The solution is a steel face on a titanium hammer. More difficult to produce but we’ve seen you do crazier things. Thanks for the great content.

Man I love your axes can’t wait to save up enough to grab one

No we love the titanium content! Keep it coming!

Wooo! That's what I suggested. Just starting, hope it works.

There are other Titanimum alloys that get much harder. I know it a few Gus that use a very special grade of Titanimum for knives and swords and it is amazing. I will look up the alloy and get back to you but it’s very expensive.

I feel your pain, I'm always so lost for what seems like years after moving

Man those hatchets are beautiful.

Perfect timing. Thanks

I've done a good bit of axe work and the smoother the head and bit are the better in my opinion. the double bit ones are really nice I like the straight handles they seem stronger. I always end up splitting the handles of the regular kind with curvy handles.

Wow that's very interesting to learn and see Timothy. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend forge On. Fab On. Weld On. Keep Forge lit. Keep Making. God Bless.

Perhaps look into carbadizing titanium with tungsten carbide on the hammering surface if you haven't already?

Please make a tungsten hammer! Also maybe the titanium needs an extreme amount of pressure with no where to go kind of like man-made diamonds where the molecules reorder themselves to be extremely compact and dense and more organized

Don't pretend that we didn't see that hammer handle split at 12:30 Cool video though👍

Isn't the forging hammer style you made from ti just a rounding hammer? Which if im not mistaken originated with Ferriers? Now if there's any type of blacksmith that would be willing to sacrifice some hardness for a huge reduction in weight, it would be a ferrier, would it not? They're always on the move, work fast and work with relativly soft materials! So maybe a farriers edition titanium rounding hammer?

It being a soft hammer is probably responsible for some of the qualities you walk across the shop for. If you got it to harden up like a normal hammer you'd likely lose some of those positive aspects. But there's only one way to find out...

3-pound forging hammers sounds awesome.

I myself don’t need a website, but I DO need one of those 50 Cal center punches….

This gives me Midwestern Flynn Lockwood vibes.

I would absolutely consider purchasing a titanium cross peen hammer if you decided to sell them

I was lucky enough to get one of these outstanding 1912 Blackhawk Hatchets. The axes are incredibly hard to get! I want!

Hey Tim, i wonder if doing something like a machinist hammer (the ones that normally have a brass or nylon strike face threaded on) would work titanium body then a harden steel strike face. Keeps the larger surface area face with the reduced weight body.

Hey, maybe try to forge weld a harder metal to the titanium just for the faces of the hammer or maybe a different grade or alloy would work better. I would love to see the different options explored

Mill the face down, drill and tap, and put a hardened steel face on. Kinda like the titanium framing hammers

5:15 you can scan it and make a digital copy that way it is easier to find.

I have the same old tool box i have a few of them actuly and their great

Bead blasting can also be used to hardened titanium and aluminium

Man that music had some funk, and I literally never say that

“Soft hammer” thats a good insult. That guy… what a soft hammer.

It might work well for a sheet metal or jewelers hammer. A jewelers hammer with some cool heat treat blues and purples.

Greetings from Texas!

I’m more excited for the 50 Cal Center Punches.

I think you should totally hang that flail from a pole outside your shop door, like people would hang a lantern. Itd be so cool

I'm not an expert in anyway, but i think you should try to use Titanium Beta alloys. As far as i know those are the only ones that can be heat treated.

Harden it with the powerhammer! Hit it cold, early in the shaping process, and see what happens!

Carburizing titanium will make the surface much harder and increase wear resistance immensely. Not sure what it will do if you hammer on it though.

nice vid! what is the beat of the rain b roll ? so groooovy

You could watch your old video when you set the Rockwell up the first time

You need an Nyobium or Inconel hammer!

I’d be interested in a titanium forging hammer

have you thought about cryo quenching? i don't know much about titanium but i do know some metals benefit from liquid nitrogen quenching. tool steels like drills and other hard/brittle tools. just a thought.

At least you showed us a little view of the landcruiser 😆 Interesting way to harden titanium. Need some titanium 🪓

Could you make a titanium hammer with a harder metal on the hammer part? Not sure if it would give you the same reduced vibration or if it is possible to get titanium and steel to stick together

Titanium is titanium. Nothing you can do about it. Hundred year old steel is, Hundred year old steel. Daym those hatchets and axes are sexy

What about a titanium lump hammer for wood workers. Or for someone who needs a softer faced hammer for specific things.

I would preorder a titanium framing hammer, maybe 2, (as long as they aren’t thousands of dollars) if you opened it up.

Use a centerpunch then grind it smooth

I wish I had the money for one of them axes

Just throwing that out there, but is it possible somehow, to forgeweld a steel face on it?

This is exactly what I mentioned in the last videos comments. This or a chipping gun. And it got no likes, as in no one else thought it was a good idea. 🤦‍♂️ I see why lmao

Framing hammers would probably sell well.

What about a video trying to forge 24k Gold. Obviously not practical for a functional tool but it would most definitely garner views. Just a suggestion, love the channel Tim. 🔨

@Bobs-Wrigles5555

Жыл бұрын

Pure gold has the highest malleability of all metals, meaning that if you take piece and start hammering it, it will just keep getting wider and thinner, a bit like play dough. It doesn't break at the middle or edges from being worked like other metals, you know how you can break a strip of steel by bending it back and forth, gold doesn't do that. IIRC Hyd Press channel took a lump and just kept squeezing it in different directions and they could return it to roughly same shape over and over.

I was wondering about needle-scalers or shot-blasting.

Just wondering if you are basically compressing the molecules in the titanium then couldn’t you just put it in the press and compress it some and compress the molecules that way? Idk it sounds good in my head lol

Titanium “shop” hammer yes please

Perhaps an air hammer with a planish bit ? More force than a needle scaler?

Just a ordinary guy, guessing out loud. Could the hardening be enhanced due to the material that was being forged providing heat to the hammer used to forge?

What about β-Ti3Au? I dont know how hard it is but seen some scientofic paper on boast by its hardness🤷🏼‍♂️

What about a handheld air hammer?

You should build a BBQ tool set

how about heat treat it in oil but do it mild heat treating not red hot but close to it that might make it harder.

Keep the faith!, continue hitting the Ti hammers against each other with better mounts for force transfer, I feel you are not inducing sufficient kinetic force transfer to both Ti surface per cycle + no of cycles over time to have a notable hardening effect. I am not a material scientist, just have a interest in metallurgy and science. Ti hammers are awesome! Thank you.

What about a tool steel facing on a titanium hammer?

If i remember right someone did a series of stainless steel damascus with titanium. Try that with m390 maybe🤷‍♂️

No power hammer!? Come on give it the beans!

When did Casey Neistat move to Wisconsin

Well that was weird, I was watching this and got your marketing email at the same moment. Pretty sure you are spying on me.

Could it be the titanium hammer is your goto, becouse it isn't that hard. What if you tried a steel hammer with the same weight, and roughly the same hardness as the titanium hammer.

As an auto body and paint guy I vote a body hammer for sheet metal work!?

I wonder why magnets aren't used to deaden anvils? be an interesting experiment to find out what works best for that purpose. I have a anvil but it too small for testing I can pick it up with 1 hand.

@bjrn-oskarrnning2740

Жыл бұрын

I have used magnets to deaden anvils many times; works great.

Yes, do it

I think jk gets his Bali songs to 50s idk for sure tho but all his knives literally never scratch when dropped on concrete

Beta titanium-3 gold check it out, supposed to be harder and higher yield strength maybe quite expensive though.

Where is your new location?

What grade Titanium is it? Grade 5 Titanium has an annealed hardnes of C 30-34 and hardened C 35-39. Grade 2 titanium has a hardness of B 80 but if it's that hard it becomes brittle.

12:28 R.I.P. Handle

Do a 95% tungsten alloy hammer!

Some beta titanium alloys can be heat treated to about 45 hrc

Is that a olde Toyota land. Cruiser

could try an air hammer. more oomph

before watching the video, I'm gonna guess that a needle scaler isn't going to do much, as it lacks the mass to actually compress the Ti enough for work hardening to occur.

The train rail hammer I bought doesn't seem much harder as a backyard guy I mushroomed it

Add a bolt on face of 4140. Replaceable. ✌

Yea