Having an ebike puts the fun back into cycling when you have had a heart attack. I can now get to places like i could 5 years ago.

I laugh when I hear that I am cheating myself out of a proper workout. By changing my diet and riding the heck out of my Levo, I've lost 22 pounds in the last 4 months.

I do most of my ebike riding in the medium eco setting (shimano e8000) & push myself harder than i do on my MTB.

I've been riding a bike since the age of 3. I wasn't thinking then this will get me fit I just fell in love with bikes. 49 now and the love is stronger then ever thanks to E bikes. People who shout to me that's cheating when I'm riding well I'm not in it to be fit I'm in it for my love of been on a bike.

Rode regular mtb and road bikes for thousands of km's when I was a lot younger, (currently 54 years), stopped biking a couple of years ago because I could not train enough so lost the fun of speed etc, had a heartattack a couple of months ago, bought an e mtb and ride about 200 to 300 km's a week now, having a lot of fun and feeling fitter and fitter now, but I agree, I try to ride as much as possible in Eco mode in order to get that heartrate up, big advantage is that I'm not totally wasted after a ride in the woods in comparison with a couple of years ago, so E mtb is a blessing for me

If your only goal is fitness, why bother buying a bike at all, there are many cheaper ways of getting as fit, some are even completely free. So now we've agreed (because let's face it, we have) that we cycle because biking is also more fun, especially mountain biking, let's also agree that it's completely up to the rider how much effort they put in on any ride. This decision is no different when riding a normal bike or an e-bike. You can ride in Turbo mode 100% of the time, or you could turn your motor completely off and get a ridiculously hard ride, it's up to rider, on the day, depending on the goals for that day/ride. And as many people have, or will point out, if it gets people onto bikes that would normally be driving their cars, then it's a good thing. It makes for fitter and healthier general populace, and drives R&D in bikes and investment into infrastructure like new bike parks.

@beaterbikechannel2538

3 жыл бұрын

It's cheaper just to singlespeed your downhill bike if you want a hard ride.

For me it's been about the miles, so far this year I've done 195 miles .This time last year on my none ebike I had done 35 miles .My ebike allows me to go for a quick 1hrs blast after work and get 10 to 15 miles in no problem .Only loss I have noticed is my belly 😀😀😀 .Keep up the videos guys ❤ EMBN and GMBN

My e bike weighs 26kg, compared to my hardtail non ebike at 12kg. Stick the ebike in eco and go for a 20 mile ride, it will get you fit fast and try lifting 26kg over barbed wire fences, not easy lol

@ljubobike

Жыл бұрын

Smae here, haibike allmtn,26kg. Little tank, and I live on second floor, every day I have heavy lifting practice

At my age 75 , pressing on the remote of my TV , with my thumb , is a fitness exercise . So when i ride my e MTB it's like training for the olympics .

Who cares, get it into TURBO and have some fun. When the battery runs out, re-charge it and have more fun!

@jamesweir139

4 жыл бұрын

When it runs out that's when you get your strength training, it's a win win!

What isnt mentioned in this video by the trainer is the stress placed on joints that occurs in running and riding. It's not all about muscle strength and cardio fitness when doing any training... More muscle strength alone does not equal a healthier body. As any joint surgeon replacing more and more joints in all age groups will tell you. Young PT instructors lose sight of this fact as it's usually a non issue in younger people. Joint wear is cumulative over the years and type of usage, sports you have done. Climbing steep hills on a non ebike might build more muscle mass but loads the hell out of your joints too. After a full right hip replacement I can tell you that after a steep climb on my ebike vs non ebike, joint load is noticeably less on the ebike and that is 1000% a better thing for your body long term. The idea of no pain, no gain is fine to a point until you start the damage...

@OzyMark

4 жыл бұрын

derek harper thank you 🙏 Finally someone who actually knows what he’s talking about. 3 Exercise: A specific activity that stimulates a positive physiological adaptation that serves to enhance fitness and health and does not under- mine the latter in the process of enhancing the former. Yes ! you can damage your body from excessive loading & claim that as Fitness when you can walk at age of 50. Exercise with the added goal of longevity of life. Love your thinking buddy, my Quite of definition is taken from Dr Doug McGuff. Worth the research 😀👍 kzread.info/dash/bejne/k52Zk6OgdbvPm7w.html

@derekharper6031

4 жыл бұрын

@@OzyMark thanks I will have a watch. Cheers

If I wouldn’t have my e-bikes, I would just sit in my car. It was a live changing purchase. But I see the problem, too. Often, you don’t really need the power, so maybe it would be good, to buy a normal bike again.

This is a great video with important points. (hats off to the really great filming) I mostly rode my Levo last year and noticed that I was missing some of my top end power - human power - that I had the previous season in only an organic bike. This year I plan on adopting some of those suggestions and doing one organic bike ride weekly throughout the season. Just now recovering from clavicle fracture waiting for the day I have the all clear to ride. Proper respect to Canada's healthcare and the physiotherapy team that is really top notch in helping me recover.

Riding in the peaks and lakes, a loop is usually about 30 miles, with anything from 3000 to 6000 foot of climb, eco is the only mode that gives you that range, I switch from ebike to conventional bike and only see my fitness improving.

I use the e-bike for commuting when my legs are shagged from riding a regular bike rather than riding the motorcycle or driving the car. It's basically a recovery ride which definitely helps with my overall fitness. If you were to just ride e-bikes, you would need to be riding pretty steep terrain most of the time and not using boost to get a high level of fitness.

For me it’s not really about getting fit, although that’s a bonus, it’s all about getting out and enjoying myself, makes me feel like I’m 14 again, not 69:7/8.

Makes me laugh when people say that you won't get fit on an e bike/it's cheating,these people have clearly never tried to pedal an e bike with the motor off,it is actually harder than a traditional mountain bike due to it's extra weight and gearing. I quite often will ride around with the motor off and then turn it on when i get to a point where i would normally give up and go home,i will then increase the power the more i get worn out so i can prolong the ride. When it comes to power on an e bike i would say (with mine anyway,2019 Giant Fathom E+3,about 25KG ) eco mode makes it feel like a normal mountain bike as it equals out that extra weight,anything above eco is then extra power,with the motor off it's like trying to ride a normal bike with flat tyres.

Thank you for all the help you have provided me, yesterday i bought my first e mountain bike (cude raction hard tail) and all because off watching your channel and learning about what i need to fly my drones without burning myself out. Maybe make a video on that for drone users... there is lots of us out there 👍

Weekend!!! Ebike!!! Trails!!!👍💪😍

Really good points and advice this is something I have noticed myself ebike fitness is very similar to road bike fitness so is a different kind for fitness than your traditional MTB where you will producing alot of short burst of high power and really grinding the climbs out. Personally I mix up my riding to keep a broad level of fitness and use the turbo trainer to do power and torque cadence drills

I really like this guest, he is very realistic and easy going. Definitely want to see more of him on here!

Lots of very good points in here. Personally I'm looking for more of an aerobics workout anyway.

I push harder on the pedals than I ever did with a manual bike , I also find I'm still riding when on a normal bike I would have been pushing it up the hill. I also do more exploring for trails.

Totally agree I have now been riding Ebikes for almost 3 years solid and only get the manual pedal bike out when riding flat paths etc. I found that I lost not so much leg strength but the amount of time that I could stay at full intensity I also struggled a bit with pedal lengths finding that I actually prefer the shorter pedals on the Ebikes. So far I've been lucky enough to have a couple of great Ebikes including my 1st the Specialized Levo and now my Favorite the Norco Sight E-MTB great bike and I love the Eco on the Shimano motor heaps better than the Brose it just rules in comparison. The Norco Sight E-MTB is also a better handling bike and is great for stand up pedaling where I mostly sat down on the Levo. Cheers boys. Tony Hornsby NSW AUSTRALIA

That’s the way Steve I mostly ride on eco so I can get better mileage and I’ve got it turned down at that love it

for many it is simply a way to achieve basic fitness with the e-bike so that you can later switch to a normal MTB

On a non-ebike, you get a carbon frame you get lower gearing and you pump your tyres harder, all to make the hills easier. We may choose to cycle because of the health and fitness benefits, but we get out there and do it primarily because it is FUN.

I'm 95% of time in Eco, very rarely I go to Trail mode (mid setting), only when it is too steep or too rough for Eco, I didn't go to Turbo mode once in bit over a year I have an ebike. So, from my experience I don't feel any loss in terms of fitness. On the climbs you have to push hard in Eco mode, my heart still goes often to red and I sweat almost as much as I used to on standard bike. Being an long distance XC rider I spend lot of time riding above 25km/h on the flats, when you are on your own with 24kg heavy bike, so that adds to fitness as well. Yesterday I did 85km long ride and for the first undulating 30km I didn't even turn on the motor on. So yeah, if you want to work, you will work as much on the ebike. But help is there when you want it and need it. If you want to be lazy you can be that even on standard bike. But if you are the type of rider who likes to be on the edge of your comfort zone and really push it, you will maintain that riding style on ebike, you will just have more dynamic ride by being faster on the climbs, but believe me you will work, if you want to.

I have arthritis in my hip so I got an e-mtb (I like to ride trails). I sometimes turn the motor off (on flatter rides) to increase the fitness effect but having the motor as a back-up if my hip starts to lock up removes my worry of getting stranded. I mostly use eco-mode anyway but Turbo is useful for when the hip is getting stiff or if I need to quickly get somewhere.

The log lift was impressive!

@thestrengthfactory.

3 жыл бұрын

Jonesy is a beast!

Easy way to keep your fitness on an ebike. Don't abuse the motor. It's there so you don't push the bike on inclines you can't handle. You're still supposed to ride it.

You are Gents Fantastic!!

As said it’s how you ride - i stick to my low and medium power and get my workouts on climbs usually doing double the distance/climbing I’d be doing on a mtb sans motor - my wife who who is less fit well on the hills she’s in trail and turbo and we ride together

I always climb on eco. Its twice as quick on a non ebike yet I'm out of breath and stamping on the pedals. Difference is at the top I no longer stop and head straight down rather than trying to do a new pair of lungs. Ebiking is just different 😊

I ride for fun, only go up to come down. If I wanted fitness, I'd become a gym bunny

I use my bike for the cardio benefit and the fun so I save Strength training for the gym.

I try to keep in eco all the time for cardio but sometimes When my heart is trying to beat it’s way out of my chest I have to go to tour mode

Its depends on how you use it! On a steep road instead of getting off and walking you can use all the power from your legs and with the help of the motor you can climb and develope your muscles. Its can help and encourage you to do bike in the winter in my opinion specialy with my fatbike. Another thing. My bike per exemple can set power to low and with the throttle only its would go around 20 kmph on flat. Add the same strenght to it ore more then i can go around 30 kmph+ Its all depend on how much strenght you put into it. Delivering on bike, you want to go faster and save somme battery. That mean you want to pedal as hard/fast as you can to save the battery. Doing more trip per days and arriving to destination faster! Its comon sense. You know if its to easy, your not using your energy and wont lvl up. So the awser is yes you can get fit and increase your legs muscles!

Just a quick question guys if I may? If we stand on the pedals will this cause heavy wear on the internals of the nylon cogs etc? Cheers

I disagree with this 100% Putting more angular force on your joints, unnecessarily, is just a good way to get hurt. If you want stronger legs hit the gym and do dead lifts. There are no shortcuts.

I ride an Ebike as I got a dodgy ankle which gives out on a normal cycle, I lost about 3/4 a stones in a month and Ben doing 20-30 miles daily which I would not have done if I had a normal cycle. I still get a few issues with my ankle but probably only 10% of what I got a normal bike.

At 57 i am glad that i am breathing.

I know a lot of people who have moved over from normal mtb's to emtb's - all of them have put on body weight! As someone who has an ebike - they are great fun though.

It's always going to be easier on the ebike, but it's all about fun... I still have my standard mtb and a road bike for fitness... Some where in the back of my shed 😂

I ride longer and farther on my ebike than my other bikes. I do much more uphill, and can keep my damaged heart right in the zones needed, to the point that my cardiologist believes I'm as healthier than before the pneumonia-caused congestive heart failure.

I just ordered a Levo. But none of my friends have an e-bike. So I’ll be using it mainly for solo rides especially long ones I haven’t been able to do. But I’ll still ride my regular bike with friends so I’ll still get a leg workout. Having said that, if you’re not a racer, why does it matter? If you get in great shape with an e-bike but don’t do quite as much tough hills but still get a great workout who cares?

I'm a roady but I love bikes, I'm thinking this could be good fun for a blast when the weather isn't good for road, I genuinely avoid riding in the wet on the road bike?

@thestrengthfactory.

3 жыл бұрын

E Bikes are amazing in the wet.

My riding constantly goes over 25 kph so im mostly ride a heavy fat tyred bike with no power assist. E Bikes with a 25 kph limit suck. Id rather be on my Giant Trance. Unless going uphill, this Trek Rail is hard work. BTW, im always in turbo. Will never use Eco.

Riding an ebike is sooo much better than staying on the couch. No one should feel guilty for riding an ebike. Fresh air, exercise, having fun. What’s not to like

Is there anything wrong with doing short rides round the block on an ebike? Would it have an effect on the battery etc?

Plus head to head strava experiments, you do get fit,

Perfect

My Eco is wound back to 15% so when I'm working in Eco you know it.. Also if I want to get stronger I just go on more rides with fence traversing involved, you know when shes over your head lol

@markparker5585

4 жыл бұрын

I sometimes turn my Eco mode down to about the same. Obviously it would vary depending on what bike/motor/software combo is being ridden, but it would be interesting to know what % of assistance on the various models cancels out the extra weight and drag (where applicable) of the batteries and motor. Somewhere between 10-20% on my particular e-bike feels about the same as my non e-bike, but that really is just a very rough guess, as it's been a while since I've ridden them both anything close to back to back.

@01Peebee10

4 жыл бұрын

@@markparker5585 That's the exact reason I run mine at 15% I've got a 2018 Levo Comp and at 15% it's the closest I've got it to feeling like an old skool bike. 😁 Power to weight. 👍

Can anyone tell me how much a good E bike is and a good model to get.

Is this not a old video? I remeber you guys have done like 5 of this...

@andrewkelly501

4 жыл бұрын

Its good they do though, i am new to the channel and just bought a ebike.

I want one! My fitness probably won't change, but I think I'll crash at higher speeds.

This is quite obvious: instead of putting 250W you put always 125W - less you put less you gain (fitness) further you get. Something for something

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e's are good, Ebeneezer Goode 😉

This guy (and a lot of the conventional thinking) has this the wrong way round. Yes, I mostly ride in eco on my Levo, but when I do the same ride in trail mode my average heart rate is higher (i.e. I'm doing more cardio exercise). the reason is that more power from the motor feels good and encourages the rider to but even more power into the pedals. I ride 100s more miles on my levo than I used to ride before and I'm much fitter after a few months of doing so and I'm having loads of fun at the same time.

I bet the ones that have a E-Mountain Bike also have a Stationary Exercise E-Bike at home = Same but Different .

If your moving your keeping fit......end of discussion

I'm an old downhiller, I understand ebike = longer rides less effort but I've noticed ALL my MTB buddies when we ride the unassisted MTB they are ALOT slower and descend slower how so ? Ebikes are fun that's for sure, but training ? Nah

@beaterbikechannel2538

3 жыл бұрын

Dont be ashamed, you like real bikes too. It's nice to know theres someone else who likes the real bike experience.

I would not go out in winter on an analogue bike

E bikes are not intended for high cadence, in fact the usable cadence on the E bike has been increased in last few years. That was my original complaint of the Levo, which they increased. I have both styles, the E bikes are just more fun and can make you feel like you can hammer really hard and still make it home without killing yourself or bonking etc.. I'm almost 64, riding and some racing since 89 almost everyday. I think it's healthier not to pin it so hard these days. And it's so much fun climbing faster. not enough work out??? with that rational having gears means you would never get out of first gear. I think these guys need to wine to the guys coming off the golf course in their golf carts, hey you guys should walk the course, see where that gets you.

Id say youd loose a little power in your legs but not fitness if you ride long and hard enough

Sorry but disagree with this. It depends how you define fitness, is it cardio or strength? You can not train on an e-bike and win an mtb race that is for sure as you use have the leg strength you would use on a regular bike, however ask anyone if their legs never got tired would the go faster? Faster cadence faster pace means better cardio. After racing in over 450 races world wide, I wish I had an e-bike for training back in the day, however now with no racing, an e-bike is all I can ride now, best fitness, best cardio, and best time on a bike.

I haven't ever ridden for fitness just for shits and giggles. Ebikes won't ever go back to a pushing up.

I only ride eco mode.

Lock you'r forks out lads, might make the difference on them climb's

The question should be to the average fit person or the couch potato not compare it to a pro mountain biker lol obviously it's not as tough and he'll lost some strength. As for the rest of 99.999 percnet of the ppl it'll keep you fit. Steady long cardio is the best for cardio health which the ebike enables the average rider to get

Try with an turned off ebike then, then turn it on on rest.

How to get fitter and stronger with an ebike : turn it off and ride up a hill

As you age you will probably need to realise ebike will help you keep riding for longer

So essentially they're electric motorbikes with a built in exercise bike...great!

As if you lose fitness they weigh twice as much

Extreme cyclists don’t need & were not the main market for ebikes.

Why bother pedaling at all?!

Electric mountain bike channel praises the fitness benefits of an ebike... who'd have thought they'd promote anything else?

who wants huge leg muscles? its the heart that is important. this is bullshit, especially for older riders

Short answer: No

Getting a huge amount of non or rare cyclists cycling again, trumps all complaints.

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@embn

4 жыл бұрын

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Motorcrossers have much more allround fitness than a cyclist.... and they don't pedall

Getting a little sick of this "riding ebikes makes you unfit crap. As with any exercise it's what you are willing to put in that counts not what you're riding. Yes if you get an ebike & ride it exactly the same as your job eboke then you're get un-fitter. But why would you bother with the extra expenses just to do that? As for someone like me who can't ride a non ebike because of heart issues then at least having 1 would get me out & get me some exercise which at the moment I'm not getting as I can't afford a eboke yet so I'm stuck watching.

Dam, I had to stop watching as the information given is BAD science. Strength training is done with weights in a Gym Cycling is adapting to cyclic conditioning. You need to define the terms of Health, Fitness & Exercise. 1 Health: physiological state in which there is an absence of disease or pathology and that maintains the necessary biologic balance between the catabolic and anabolic states. 2 Fitness: The bodily state of being physiologically capable of handling Challenges that exist above a resting threshold of activity. 3 Exercise: A specific activity that stimulates a positive physiological adaptation that serves to enhance fitness and health and does not under- mine the latter in the process of enhancing the former. That is quoted from a Specialist Doctor who gives you the facts from science, not the hype of opinions. Dr Doug McGuff is a easy to understand IMO Guru on fitness & exercise. His protocol is all evidence base on science. His book “Body by Science” is an amazingly detailed very technical read but totally worth the investment in time. His podcast & lectures are incredible to learn from. Fwd to 1:02:40 www.the21convention.com/2011/03/05/doug-mcguff-t21c-2010/

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@embn

4 жыл бұрын

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Obviously riding an ebike will help you keep fit, however there was nothing wrong with the humble original bike which kept you fitter. Also the ebike has a much, much greater affect on the environment which wasn't such an issue with the humble original bike. Personally I believe the advent of the ebike is a particularly sad moment for humanity as something as pure and simple as the humble original bike has been lost for ever. Humans are intrinsically lazy and will always opt for the easiest route and this combined with a massive push in advertising from the bike industry means that people are now being made to feel inadequate if they own a standard bike.

e bikers are lazy, but, nothing wrong w that, maybe you just want to take it easy

@julianshepherd2038

4 жыл бұрын

Not lazy, old and broken.

@mfren6253

4 жыл бұрын

Hmm, I’ve never met a lazy EMTB’er. I’d like to see one.

@Hunter_S._Thompson

4 жыл бұрын

@@mfren6253 I'm a lazy EMTB'er I've got a normal Enduro for riding/fitness, but if I'm lazy and just want to get somewhere fast or so I take the EMTB.

@mfren6253

4 жыл бұрын

We definitely have different fitness levels. I think everyone does. But what’s even more difficult to measure is the fun factor. It’s all starting to sound subjective.

@ftgoggi4715

4 жыл бұрын

My mates 65, his sons 35. My mate works a physical job 6 days a week and has some age related health issues. Buying an ebike has meant that my mate can now spend time with his son out riding when he gets back from work. I also work a physical job 6 days a week, I'm younger than my mate but my knees are shot from football. For me an ebike has meant that I can get out and ride after work without fear of being in too much knee pain to work the following day. You think either of us are lazy? Too many people in this world are quick pass judgement on others, walk a mile in a mans shoes and all that.