Cant believe his 1 complaint is that they gave too much oil....

@BenKempa

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, and if they put the right amount of oil in with the generator then they would probably complain that it didn't come with extra oil

@antifudster6316

4 жыл бұрын

Today’s winner of most pathetic first world problem, goes to....

@leskobrandon538

4 жыл бұрын

@@antifudster6316 Tesla suckers

@davidstjames_

4 жыл бұрын

Yep, silly millennials! It's scary that they have no idea what the ground connection is, it connects to the GROUND...lol...

@janosmerges4946

4 жыл бұрын

It is obviously a paid advertizing. In order to hide that, he gives a positive as a negative point. Be aware!

did we just watch a video on how a generator doesn't work??

@JDMHaze

4 жыл бұрын

Drew Hill YES!!

@electrictroy2010

2 жыл бұрын

just call AAA like anybody else who needs a tow. You only need to move the EV to any 120 volt plug & you’ll get 5 times faster recharge than this stupid generator

2:21 "Alex is our #1 leading expert" 3:08 Alex(The Expert): "this seems to be some kind of tool kit"🤔🤷🏽‍♂️ 😂😂😂😂😂

@dirkturrell6460

4 жыл бұрын

Keye Haze not to mention you only need the choke when it's cold lol

18 minutes and they didn't even answer the question? lame.

@V4Dru

3 жыл бұрын

Did you not listen? He said he already knew it would work since he saw videos of other people doing it and in the end they did charge it so the answear is: yes, you can charge it with a portable charger.

@leilanitrahan9286

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah why

@leilanitrahan9286

3 жыл бұрын

I agree

With regards to the rough running on the generator, make sure that fuel vent on the filler cap is in the open position - if that is closed I think it starts building a vacuum in the tank and the fuel stops flowing.. Found that out the hard way on mine :-)

@talltomtube

4 жыл бұрын

I once had my fishing boat stop a few miles from home. Could not get the outboard to restart. I started rowing and then noticed the vent was closed on the gas tank.. I opened the vent to a loud sucking noise. It fired right up after that. Lesson learned. I check that before I start the engine.

@rickmanley767

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly. He has the vent on the gas cap closed.

@slidewaze

2 жыл бұрын

Might need to be rejetted as Denver/Colorado Springs is like 5k' elevation.

Have you looked for a 240v generator with a higher rated charging cable?

@fatboy19831

4 жыл бұрын

That would make too much sense. They are trying to show how much trouble it is to charge with a low current 120-volt generator.

@fastfreeks

4 жыл бұрын

They probably have but those generators are much larger and heavier. At some point it would make more sense to have an ICE vehicle.

@fatboy19831

4 жыл бұрын

@@fastfreeks or just plan accordingly and do what the car tells you to do right on the massive tuch screen.

@nycameleon

4 жыл бұрын

120 charging is so inefficient, a 240 would make more sense. The scenario would be that it might be at a camp site somewhere away from infrastructure, not that you would carry a massive generator with you.

@sergiocastro1429

4 жыл бұрын

It's hard to find an small inverter 240v generator. They're talking more portable. The 240v that aren't inverted are too big, heavy, and doesnt have a pure sine wave. The point is to have something small and portable, have pure sine wave like an inverter, and not so loud. They are also trying to measure "mpg" charge on one gallon. This generator deal would only serve as backup and would be great for off grid while camping.

This is EXACTLY how we will do it in Nigeria.

@Ticktocktalks1234

3 жыл бұрын

Yes ooo

@IceAge20017

3 жыл бұрын

Nigeria is not ready for electric cars. First a robust power grid must be established.

@elijahhmarshall

3 жыл бұрын

@@IceAge20017 hence the joke...

@JeJeNtwrk

3 жыл бұрын

@@IceAge20017 if one can afford to buy a new EV, like Hyundai Kona #24mill, den get Solar Panel fix at home 😀

@vikasreddy3603

3 жыл бұрын

@@JeJeNtwrk I am guessing next joke is going to be "in Nigeria solar panels are free for those who can afford them"

I love these videos, actual gas to electricity. They're hilarious, but really they are most likely the best representation of gas burning to power created. 👍👍👍👍👍👍

@42luke93

2 жыл бұрын

Oh wow good point Somewhere power is generated. Weather it’s Fossil Fuels, Solar, Wind or Nuclear.

So after 18 minutes we still didn’t find out the mpg. Nothing to see here. Move along.

@noway5930

4 жыл бұрын

They showed that 1 gallon of gas gave 12 miles of additional range.

@SB-tt5ox

4 жыл бұрын

We've done testing in Australia With a 60kva diesel generator and a 50kw DC charger. We achieved 5-6lt/100km (40-45ish mpg). That's a real world number from a test group of 10 cars.

@trx420fm1

4 жыл бұрын

Yes we did a gallon of gas in the generator allowed them to go 12 miles! According to Generac the 2200 has a run time of 10 hours at 25% load. They were pushing it close to 75% load so you can say they would never reach the minimum daily charge level on 1 tank of gas.

@trx420fm1

4 жыл бұрын

@@SB-tt5ox 3,700lb 60,000v diesel generator? to get 40 mpg! hmm a Honda civic weighs 3,000lbs and gets 40mpg and cost $21,650. Yeah that is not remotely economical

@trx420fm1

4 жыл бұрын

The Generac 2200 can run for 10 hours on 1 gallon of fuel at 25% load but they were using about 75% load to charge the car so you could only charge for around 7 hours at a rate of 3 miles per hour which would be 21 miles per gallon.

I think that you have made a mistake with the generator...you need to run it through a break-in period before you put a heavy load on it. That is why it was barfing out on it. Most new inverter generators need a 5 hour breaking period, after which you change the oil, and then you should be good to go...and as they age, they actually get better for the first few months (depending on use, of course) before they reach their peak capacity. I think that you need to do the proper break-in period and then change the oil, and try your test again.

@williamgregory5011

4 жыл бұрын

Your face makes me crave some street tacos

@ImUpsetThatYouStoleMyUsername

8 ай бұрын

Great bit of advice. Appreciate it.

This just sounds like a normal car with extra steps..

@taiwoolaleye6333

3 жыл бұрын

no

Thank you!!! I always wondered about this exact same thing!

Generac❓Endless money pit❗️🤣 Should've got the Honda❗️😜👍

@g00fysmiley

4 жыл бұрын

Eh.. thier inverters are pretty good. Have both and no issues with either one and have gotten me through several storms. One 2k watt inverter for fridge and a small window AC unit another does a mini split and charges devices/laptops. Change oil once a year and they run like tops.

@g00dgh0st

4 жыл бұрын

Why not the honda?! The industry standard. That thing sounded terrible right out of the box and had features that didn’t work.

@mo1kai691

4 жыл бұрын

Should have bought a '94 Celica generator.

@hondatrix

4 жыл бұрын

I agree...sell the Tesla and get a Honda...

@Mr19853

4 жыл бұрын

@@g00dgh0st Why? If all are eating McDonald's and watch CNN would you do the same? There is no industry standard unless you are brainwashed!

if u can use the grounding plug, the honda eu22i looks far more healthier than that generac thingy

@bibasik7

4 жыл бұрын

"more healthier" -krisnadi imam, 2019

@fixman88

4 жыл бұрын

Another KZreadr charged his Model S with a Generac iQ2000 and it worked fine: kzread.info/dash/bejne/gJpqucmKlq-ddLw.html

@wolfman9999999

4 жыл бұрын

@@patrickprice2017 I highly doubt this. They are pushing the absolute limits of what would be acceptable in the use and abuse of this vehicle. Everyone knows that you can cross country in one of these without towing so long as you stay along the interstates. Their goal is to try to get stuck far away from any charger, and figure out a method to get back. Literally nobody is hauling horse trailers, towing over Eisenhower Tunnel, or overlanding in a Tesla. They aren't built for it.

@MrLangDog

4 жыл бұрын

@@patrickprice2017 The time involved in charging, even at a super charger, is awkward for 99.8% of people.

@valdius85

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrLangDog People who buy electric vehicles have different habits that yours.

Can buy powerwall 2 recharge to emergency or camper mode

youre videos are getting much better Tommy. youre not afraid of the camera as much. u seem much less stressed compaired to when u first started. keep up the good work. u turned a hater almost into a fan

All you really needed was a calculator

@hungryhungryhummer

4 жыл бұрын

Lol. You realize that the Tesla isn’t that fuel efficient as almost every power plant is fossil fuel burning anyway. And with that unrecyclable lithium polymer battery you Tesla owners are not saving the world.

@oscarbottazzi4231

4 жыл бұрын

DarthSmartt www.globaltechenvironmental.com/recycling-services/battery-recycling/li-ion-battery-recycling/?gclid=CjwKCAjwk93rBRBLEiwAcMapUdlzaMvJ5p6NG9O4p7pfl6T2MknNvymH92XI27T5Ag9hKzFpPMJuixoCMvUQAvD_BwE

@KyleClerico

4 жыл бұрын

@@hungryhungryhummer ... No, what this shows is that the generator isn't that fuel efficient. Literally any gas burning power plant is much more efficient at making energy. Small engines suck. Everything is better at scale... like lithium recycling. Also "almost every power plant" is not fossil fuel burning. It's certainly a majority, but in 2018 the US got 19% of it's energy from non-fossil fuel sources. That's "almost" 1/5. www.eia.gov/energyexplained/us-energy-facts/

@raymundhofmann7661

4 жыл бұрын

@@KyleClerico These 19%, are actually 6% real renewables because one might want to exclude nuclear and energy gernerated by burning something like wood or bio mass (a euphemism for burning waste, to make it sound "green"). To put these 6% real renewable electricity into perspective, the energy consumption in electricity at most is around 25% of the crude oil energy consumption, inefficiencies of extracting the energy out of the oil via a power plant or ICE's factored in. So you are talking about 1.5% of the total energy consumption that come from real renewables.

@whyvas

4 жыл бұрын

@@hungryhungryhummer Your troll game is weak, please do better.

3 miles an HOUR charging LOL

@kfstreich4787

4 жыл бұрын

72 miles a day...

@bW9taeH4

4 жыл бұрын

Or you can use a Supercharger. With the latest chargers, if you start a 400 mile trip with a full charge at home, you will need to charge for under 10 minutes on the road with a Model 3, and considering that you'd probably stop for lunch or a restroom break, chances are that you'd add far more range than you'd need for the trip. In real life, nobody is going to charge from a generator.

@BigMateo24

4 жыл бұрын

@@bW9taeH4 I think the point of this vid is using the generator as a spare gas can of sorts. You can strap as much fuel as you want on the back of your car or truck and in 5 minutes be down the road, but you can't do that with an electric car. Unless you want to 2 days using a generator which you would need at least 15-20 gallons of fuel to charge it anyways. Their whole concept of what they want the Model X to do is flawed, and so far has been a major letdown in EVERY category they've tested. Even if you bought a Rivian or Bolinger and took it deep offroad, the same problem exists: there is no realistic recharging solution.

@Karan-vp7uk

4 жыл бұрын

BigMateo24 I mean if you like to drive 12 consecutive hours you can. But normal people do like to stop every few hours...

@bW9taeH4

4 жыл бұрын

@@Karan-vp7uk That's why they drive a Tesla instead of a car that needs to go to the gas station regularly. I can plug in faster than it takes the garage door to close, meaning I'm literally not spending even an extra second on charging. Nobody charges with a generator. Once you have an EV, and you get to look at the people lined up to get gas, you will be glad that you no longer have to do that.

Did you still have to use the bonding plug after it warmed up?

Not jumper cables, battery charging cables!

From this video, I learned that Honda or Yamaha is the only 2000w generator to buy. Generac gets an F- in this test.

@phillipsusi1791

4 жыл бұрын

Do those work to charge a Tesla?

@supremeautomotive6749

4 жыл бұрын

You can charge with any generator with a simple trick with making a plug from old cut off plug and yoy connect the green and white wires together and then plug that into 1 of the outlets on the generator.

@cheezy2455

4 жыл бұрын

The real question is can you charge and drive your Tesla 😂

@phillipsusi1791

4 жыл бұрын

@@cheezy2455 not at the same time

@marks6072

4 жыл бұрын

All inverter generators are not created equal. The output AC waveform (viewed on an oscilloscope) differs from brand to brand. Honda & Yamaha have the cleanest, noise free and stable 60Hertz pure-sine output on the market. All the others barely qualify to run an electric pressure washer. Tesla apparently wants a clean and stable 60Hz 120VAC source to charge from. Novel idea using a portable generator if you have all day to wait for 8 hours to make it a few more miles. However you could probably walk as fast as you can charge.

how about a better generator that outputs a real 240 volt. do you need a 3 prong or 4 prong? Would that work better?

@henrycruz45cal

4 жыл бұрын

It depends on the generator. My Pulsar G10KBN, 10,000 watt gen has a 4 prong that our charger adapter connects to.

@davepitsch6411

4 жыл бұрын

@@henrycruz45cal Imagine putting a really good charger head on the PTO output of a tow truck to get some mileage into an EV (Tesla) so it can make it to a supercharger, or other grid stationary outlet ... potentially saving on tow bills for EV (Tesla) owners, and potentially making easy money for tow-truck owners & operators.

@shitloveaduck

4 жыл бұрын

To get into a generator that has a 240 v output in the USA, there is no portability. They are huge, unless I haven’t looked hard enough. It was something I used to look for before I sold the farm this summer.

@davepitsch6411

4 жыл бұрын

@@shitloveaduck On google, there are portable 240v generators.

@shitloveaduck

4 жыл бұрын

Dave Pitsch - sweet! Thanks. I hadn’t looked in a while and I would want a brand name. Everything on the farm was Honda except for the whole home generators that ran off of natural gas. Those were Generac.

How many amps does the generator put out? I have a small 900-watt 7.5 amp generator and I wonder if it will charge an electric car or if you have to have 15 amp?

Will a Tesla even allow you to charge and drive at the same time? I know for my USB power pack, I can only do one at a time.

@emifro

3 жыл бұрын

Thats just a bad power pack design

@sharonbraselton3135

Жыл бұрын

Buy solar o wer b

Time to charge it next time with a portable nuclear reactor ;)

If putting the correct amount of oil in a generator is too complicated for you. That is the sign you probably should not be attempting to operate it. Which is really sad in my book.

@ariip

4 жыл бұрын

Yes. He should have also been aware that the engine would need a break in period and should not have been used for running such a constant heavy load until it was broken it. I am sure the instructions would have stated that as well.

@FrankyRedEyes

4 жыл бұрын

Tommy told him to complain about something. Lol

@Dankcatvacs

4 жыл бұрын

@@FrankyRedEyes hey its just a heads up

Is there a way to tow the generator, plugged, and when the car reaches a certain power level the generator kicks in? Basically making a hybrid.

@kaikart123

4 жыл бұрын

It's called Plug-in hybrid

Just wondering, Can you charge the tesla and drive at the same time. SO put the generator on a hitch storage and drive off while it is connected, possibly to a higher KW generator.

You may get better fuel economy with a larger generator because it is not working at peak load.

@keithf8649

4 жыл бұрын

No, you get best economy at full load

@stevedrawdy2532

4 жыл бұрын

You may get better charging with a generator that puts out 220v. Haven't watched the video yet but that generac is only 110 afaik

@kfstreich4787

4 жыл бұрын

@@keithf8649 best economy comes around 65-80% load

@Chrisb8s

4 жыл бұрын

You’ll get better range in the car by not carrying around a useless generator and gas

@milanswoboda5457

4 жыл бұрын

with 12 A they would had been in the 85% load of the rated output which is OK. Also consider for what purpose this gen is supposed to be used.

I love the idea of powering an electric car with fossil fuels.

@henrycruz45cal

4 жыл бұрын

Most of the time that exactly how we charge it. Unless you are getting you house pwr from solar or your local electric company is getting power from the wind.

@JAMESWUERTELE

4 жыл бұрын

Doubtful it’s from wind. The best out wind farms at work can do a month is almost 40 percent capacity factor. So 60 percent of the month no wind generation.

@drewelliott9062

4 жыл бұрын

I call electric cars Coal Powered Cars since that's what most our electricity is produced from. Electric cars aren't all that eco friendly.

@BigMateo24

4 жыл бұрын

@@drewelliott9062 Been saying this for awhile, but you can't convince Tesla fanboys of this fact.

@Lawrence330

4 жыл бұрын

@@BigMateo24 & Drew Elliott: Electric cars are twice as efficient as the best gasoline cars, as I've outlined several times already in the comments here. Yes, even when burning coal. The simple matter is that small engine efficiency (which here means any automobile or truck) is tragically low,. The economies of scale associated with fossil-fuel power production results in an equation where, after taking into account all of the efficiencies in transmission, charging/discharging, and electro-mechanical conversion in the motor, electric cars still come out on top, and by an enormous margin. The laws of thermodynamics limit the efficiency of the auto engine. It can't be overcome. The limitation of the electric car is storage density (battery tech), a problem that capitalists and grad students all around the world are seeking to improve as we speak. I like a roaring V8 engine as much as anyone, truly, but the future IS electric. No use deluding yourselves or others about it.

Great informative video guys. Thanks

great video!! thanks guys

So, you've got a generator that's using around 0.5 gallons per hour to charge a Tesla at a rate of 1 mile range per hour... which equates to fuel economy of around 2 mpg?

@fatboy19831

4 жыл бұрын

They charged 12 miles before the Tesla stopped excepting the charge. They don't know how many miles they can get from one gallon but it is more than 12.

@ariip

4 жыл бұрын

@@fatboy19831 Yes. Most generators have tanks sized for many hours of operation, usually 6-10 or more.

@ariip

4 жыл бұрын

Again, the inefficiencies are with the gas engine, not the ev. But as I stated, the tanks in generators run many hours before needing filling so they did not use the gas up in 1 hr or 2 hrs.

I remember when your videos were about 5 to 10 minutes long and could actually watch them ....

@albinoviper2876

4 жыл бұрын

ok so you have the attention span of a fish.

@AndyGarcia0415

4 жыл бұрын

@@albinoviper2876 if I want to watch a movie or good content, I'll dedicate my time. I'm not wasting my limited time on nonsense and filler

@AndyGarcia0415

4 жыл бұрын

@GUERRILLA SUNRISE this was the last video I watched and unfollowed them

So, if mounted to the trunk, can you theoretically drive continuously at 3 mph? Or does it not allow charging while driving? The reason being to get the last few miles to a charging station in an emergency.....just for curiosity sake

I’m curious, if while charging the Tesla with a generator plugged in and you had to move the Tesla maybe 2 feet to get to a part that rolled under the car will the Tesla allow you to move the car during charging? Dumb question I know, but just. Curious if Tesla has an automatic lockout

If you want to find amps you do opposite. Divide watts by voltage = amps. This is important so you dont blow fuses.

fun fact: human walking speed is 3.1 mph

@stephendee7839

4 жыл бұрын

I walk at 3.72 mph. What sort of animal am I?

@TimpBizkit

3 жыл бұрын

I walk at nearly 5 mph or else it's too time consuming to get anywhere. I can't stand being stuck behind someone who meanders at a snail's pace. It almost makes me stumble when I was about to put my foot further forwards but the person in front hasn't moved on as much. And you know what's stupid? I'm 5 foot 6 and I walk this quickly.

@JohnFekoloid

3 жыл бұрын

I once walked exactly 12km in 2 hrs. So I recon it's 6km/h. I was 15 then. Maybe I was fast kid (?) I can't figure out this your mph off the top my head.

@TimpBizkit

3 жыл бұрын

@@JohnFekoloid I tested with a tape measure on the ground with objects marking distance, and a 60 bpm metronome. I found 3 mph was quite easy (markings 52.8 inches apart) - not completely dawdling but probably around 100 steps per minute. 4 mph (markings 70.4 inches) was starting to feel brisk but not excessively rushed 120 steps per minute. It''s probably what I'd do for long distance. 5 mph (markings 88 inches) was starting to feel fairly rushed when I tried to keep up with the markings and I ended up extending the feet to lengthen the stride and also around 135 steps per minute. It wasn't fast enough to feel the need to break out into a run but it definitely felt like I was in a hurry.

@MrTresto

3 жыл бұрын

What is your point? Even if the human can walk 12 miles in 4 hours, they haven't managed to get the car charged. Whereas if the car gets to a nearby outlet, then they can charge it...! Also, this made me think of that crazy episode in breaking bad where they manually charge the battery of the RV ha ha ha

Funny part is my generator (different make & model) says to ground the thing with the supplied grounding rod and wire... push rod into the ground and hook up the wire. Did that not come with this?

So. There I am, with my 400 watts of solar panels on my 1960 Airstream. Got a 3000 watt (pure sine wave) inverter. I roll into Glacier National Park on June 1st. with Ford Lightning Pro, batteries on empty. With no other draws on solar, full sunshine every day, Will I have a fully charged battery in the Lighting by August 31 ?

Generator choice advice: My CAT INV2000 charges at 12a without inching its way up from 7a and without a cheater plug. Also, My Pulsar G10KBN (10,000 watt) generator has a 50 amp plug which chargers My Model S at 23 mph also without a cheater plug. I ran both for an hour with no issues just to see if it was doable. I'm glad I saw this video cause now I know it may not work past 3 hrs. Thx

@JAMESWUERTELE

4 жыл бұрын

Henry Cruz this is awesome! Buy an electric car, generator and gas! I’ll keep my F-350 and Tacoma.

@edwardgreenjr167

4 жыл бұрын

Yours may work past 3 hours since they are far more better suited to the task then the unit they highlighted in the video. The pulsar especially. Actually, that being dual fuel would have been ideal for their trailer not just for emergency charging. I mean, even the most basic research into the topic would have told them how this would have turned out. But they are still pulling the "wow, look at how slow it charges from a basic 110v wall plug" routine in 2019. Really making me second guess the motive behind the video in general.

@fatboy19831

4 жыл бұрын

@@edwardgreenjr167 You are not second-guessing. You are dead on.

@TFLcar

4 жыл бұрын

fatboy19831 Wow chill guys. why does everything have to be a conspiracy? we literally just needed a small unit as an emergency backup while on the road trip as outlined. full stop.

@ilovebohol

4 жыл бұрын

@@TFLcar why DIDN'T you ground the generator itself? Instead you connect the neutral and ground?

@9:00 “to get a clean sine wave you essentially need an inverter generator”. Face palm. A real generator makes a clean pure sine wave. An inverter generator turns AC into DC and then inverters it back to AC, which is what allows it to run slower than 3600 rpm that the cheap 2-pole generators run at to make 60 Hz. So a real generator will work, or pure sine wave inverter type.

@leskobrandon538

4 жыл бұрын

1.21 jigawatts

@cleatrampler

4 жыл бұрын

My 1968 Onan 4KW opposed engine generator produces a more perfect sine wave than the FPL power. The ready Power diesel generator from 1972 produces 20KW and still gives a perfect 60Hz sine wave as the governor accurately stabilizes RPMs.

@imho7250

4 жыл бұрын

cleatrampler. Yes, and many Oman generators are 4-pole so they run at 1800 rpm instead of 3600, which is a much more pleasant sound. The bigger generators are sometimes 6-pole to run at 1200 rpm. It’s a trade off of portability. Higher rpm is more power per pound but more annoying to listen to. These guys don’t understand the whole point of an inverter you generator is to give you the high power to weight ratio with the ability to run slower under light load, and become quieter. But a $300 Briggs and Stratton generator running 3600 rpm will make a cleaner power than any inverter, as you say after the Governor has time to stabilize for and change in load. I think most of the reason the generator doesn’t work with Tesla is when it doesn’t pass the ground check. What I’d like to see instead of a generator is someone using a model 3 using an inverter to charge another Tesla. I think the DC-DC converter is powerful enough to supply about 1kw to the vehicle being charged. This might be a way to save someone a ride on a flatbed.

@kimmer6

4 жыл бұрын

Double face palm here. He's thinking INVERTERS, pure sine wave output vs modified sine wave. You know...inverters that change 12 Volts DC to 120 Volts AC....all electronics, no engine. Even the Harbor Freight Tools cheepo 900 Watt 2 stroke gas powered generator puts out a pure sine wave.

@imho7250

4 жыл бұрын

kimmer6, yes, the cheapest generator puts out pure sine wave. But the cheaper investor type generator doesn’t. The 2-stroke you are talking about isn’t direct drive, it uses a reduction gear to let the 2-stroke run at 30,000 rpm (lol) and the generator runs at 3600. They are noisy and run at an irritating frequency. The cheap inverter type doesn’t need a reduction gear, it can trunk 400 Hz into 60 by turning it from AC to DC back to AC. The benefit being it has the power to make 1500 watts peak and be noisy while also being able to run at fast idle to make 150 watts, which might be all that is needed. All this is an exercise in futility anyway since you carry that big thing that gives 1 Mike range added per hour. Lol. It would probably be less hassle to carry a 5 kWh battery and electronics that let you charge at 50kw (10C discharge). Then after use you just put it back on it’s storage bay and connect it’s charging cable and configure it to charge when you charge the main battery,

have you looked into have a generator installed straight in the tesla? effecivly making it primary electric 2nd gas highbred?

Did you try driving the Tesla while it was charging with the generator or does it not let you do that? Is there a way around it?

As soon as I saw Generac I knew the issues were about to begin! Might as well have bought a Harbor Freight blow apart one! Honda baby..... HONDA!

@maxview99

4 жыл бұрын

I buy all my generators at Walley World. What could possibly go wrong?

@yonmoore

4 жыл бұрын

My harbor fright Honda knockoff is still going strong but it probably only has about 50 hours on it so far so maybe I'm speaking too soon

@yonmoore

4 жыл бұрын

@Your moms HITACHI more like come back after 700-1000 weeks of storage, which is the more likely scenario for me. If I were depending on it for my daily needs, I'd definitely pony up and buy a legit Honda. But solar and batteries take care of all my electrical needs except for AC. And where I live, AC isn't really required.

@MilesPrower1992

4 жыл бұрын

Don't underestimate the power of Harbor Freight Chinesium

@Vanlifecrisis

4 жыл бұрын

The harbor freight inverter gens are surprisingly reliable. I used the 1500/2000 for 6 months, 8 hours per day. Lots of oil changes tho. Its modified sine too, just a good one. I suspect that the generac is as well no matter what the marketing says

Just for fun you should see about a 240volt generator.

@NickBDesigns

4 жыл бұрын

Colin Southern ya I didn’t think about that, I’m not an expert on electricity but yes that would make sense.

@empower88

4 жыл бұрын

@@colinsouthern wrong in double the voltage you have half the current

@bengthundal4181

4 жыл бұрын

@@colinsouthern Oh, there are more factors in it than that. Voltage drop is less significant with lower amps, and the generator it self will be more efficient at higher voltage.

@scottleggejr

3 жыл бұрын

@@colinsouthern Yes, wrong. You can't talk VA (gross) and Watts (net) in the same context. Your definition of watts is technically VA because you're missing 80% = max *and* PFC tax to get to the net-product of watts. chargedevs.com/features/a-closer-look-at-power-factor-correction/

@scottleggejr

3 жыл бұрын

@@colinsouthern Find me a 1500w 240V inverter generator and I'll buy you a beer. Those exist all day in 120V... All people are saying is that TFL needs a bigger generator.

Millennials" it has too much oil" , generation X " cool it came with oil !"

@randomchannel4886

4 жыл бұрын

Highteckhobbies gen z -“let me google what the oil is for..”

@rickpickle

4 жыл бұрын

the greatest generation didn't use oil, they used the blood of their conquered adversaries

@agartin1

4 жыл бұрын

And hell it got extra oil as well!

@fargonianproductions2767

4 жыл бұрын

Randomchannel I am a gen z and I what oil is for, how to replace a tire, hell I even took the governor out of my moped. We aren’t all the same

You got that backwards... EVERY generator produces a pure sine wave. The only source of a square or modified sine wave is a cheap inverter.

Those General generators are junk, I took mine back twice and finally got my money back and I bought a Honda ! No problems with the Honda at all 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽

I have a similar generator (mine is branded Westinghouse, but is probably made by the same Chinese manufacturer)... The first thing I did was change out the cheap Chinese spark plug and installed a quality Japanese made NGK plug. The generator ran much smoother with no surging.

@electrictroy2010

2 жыл бұрын

just call AAA like anybody else who needs a tow. You only need to move the EV to any 120 volt plug & you’ll get 5 times faster recharge than this stupid generator

Did you guys actually ground the generator in your first test? It has an output for earth on the rear panel but I never saw you guys connect it to anything.

What if you were towing your camping equipment and a larger generator in the back, would that be enough to charge your Tesla in a pinch when out and about?

what if you had an onboard power source to recharge while driving like a volt

@electrictroy2010

2 жыл бұрын

So but s Volt… or BMW i3. Or just call AAA like anybody else who needs a tow. You only need to move the EV to any 120 volt plug & you’ll get 5 times faster recharge than this stupid generator

Had TFL done a bit more research on the topic.... the episode wouldn't be so wasted.

@aussie2uGA

4 жыл бұрын

MQNguyen It’s not a wasted episode, they clearly have an agenda they want to convey to their audience.

@henrycruz45cal

4 жыл бұрын

I don't want to see the end result as if everything went will from the beginning. Mine worked from the start with my inverter and generator but if you started with a cheaper one like what he has, it's good to see the process to get it working.

@shitloveaduck

4 жыл бұрын

Henry Cruz - exactly. So easy for people to sit behind their devices and criticize. Some have clearly tried this with their Teslas, others like to show how big their brains are (most of these fellas failed due to grammar, spelling, etc), the rest are just annoying blowhards. Thank you to those that have tried similar experiments and have added you input and knowledge.

@edwardgreenjr167

4 жыл бұрын

@@aussie2uGA Ding Ding Ding. It's hard to take them seriously when they are still pulling the "wow look how slow this is charging" routine, while plugging a model X into a standard wall outlet. Anyone even remotely interested in electric cars learns day one about needing a 240V outlet with at least 30 amps for proper charging. Like anyone with more than two brain cells is going to assume charging your multi-ton car is going to take a similar charge time as you 5lb laptop.

Out of curiosity, would a UPS work? Plug the Tesla wall charger into a 1500W UPS plugged into any old generator- would that fix any complaints from the charging system? Would the cost of the UPS make it just worth it to get a better generator instead?

Thank you, I was thinking of this today and I'm glad you tested this!

@electrictroy2010

2 жыл бұрын

Just buy a Volt or i3 which are EVs with the generator already built in

@electrictroy2010

2 жыл бұрын

Or just call AAA like anybody else who needs a tow. You only need to move the EV to any 120 volt plug & you’ll get 5 times faster recharge than this stupid generator

@michaelpatschak9612

2 жыл бұрын

@@electrictroy2010 we're aware of the alternatives, this is still a fun and interesting experiment. You actually don't even need the tow truck to take you to a charger, you could be towed (by any capable vehicle) and use the regenerative breaking to charge your EV. Which is also a fun interesting experiment and actually seems viable - but we wouldn't know that without people running the tests!

On a previous towing test of the Model X, I suggested that you acquire (rent) a trailer-able generator with significantly more charging power. I'm not sure what voltages Tesla's accept, but larger generators can be had with a variety voltage outputs. 220/480/600 etc. For example, the standby generator located at my place of work is a 600KW/480 volt stationary unit. It runs normally at 480 volts and between 600-900 amps. So whatever the Tesla can handle, I'm sure there is a generator that can provide at least what a SuperCharger Station can provide. Just an idea. . .

Will The Fast Lane Car be at the Nurnbergring to record Teslas track time this week?

Is there any possibility to charge tesla while driving continuously through air flow,solar,and wheel connected to some sort of light load generator (just an assumption) .

expensive toys, but great test, content is king and when you already have the toys its just extra money coming in ! thanks for the content

You should use the powerhorse 3500i from northern tool. Yes it's a store brand but it is a very good generator. Also their is a ground post on the front of the generator that you are technically supposed to connect to a ground rod.

Yeah complaining about getting too much oil. No it isn't more work. With all these little generators you fill till it reaches the lip of the fill neck. Nice and easy now put the extra away for the next oil change which should be in a couple of hrs for the first change

These millennials kill me..."it came with too much oil". Dear God man, read and measure. Oil is sold in quarts

@thezucernoodle2345

4 жыл бұрын

Best comment on here Sir!

@alakani

4 жыл бұрын

You mean idiots, not millennials. I know some people like to think they're the same thing, but actually idiots can come in any age. As you can see here *hands you a mirror*

@10rninjariderzx

4 жыл бұрын

@@alakani You would have an eye for an idiot. You seem to know first hand being one yourself. Hey your boyfriend is waiting

@alakani

4 жыл бұрын

@@10rninjariderzx Ok Cletus. Nice effort but I didn't mean replace ageism with homophobia. Don't you have any hobbies or friends or anything? How on earth do you survive in society or have any meaningful conversations if you hate everything?

@JDMHaze

4 жыл бұрын

lmaoo lol

the neutral to earth bonding.. Can this be done with a UK plug? Because i have an electric heater that i want to run off a generator, But it doesnt let me, because the on-board computer in the heater, Says there is no earth connection

I asked Rivian people about carrying generator if you outdoor traveling in woods. So as per engineers it is not an option. I will keep my Jeep for now.

Wow I can't believe he complained about getting extra oil

I think Tom Mabe should take a Tesla and put a LOUD generator on it's roof, come rolling in a parking lot next to someone, say he's trying to save the planet by driving electric, but it ran out so he's charging it. Lol

Helpful to know this Thanks for sharing

You are trying to do this with a crappy generator. I am where we actually use these during hurricane season. You needed to go Honda EU70is with 5,500 continuous watts and 220v inverter. Should fit in the camper. That generator can power a house with fridge and a/c. That unit is just for camping lights.

@matt4398

4 жыл бұрын

$4500

@IsmaelMartinezPR

4 жыл бұрын

Matt absolutely. It’s an what, $70k car and using a $400 buck generator. Like trying to run a lambo with moonshine. If they are serious about doing this, that’s the power they need.

WTF did I just watch? The shock of the charging rate using s standard 110v wall outlet in 2019. Calling this 'test' turning a Tesla into a "plug-in Hybrid". Let's see how much "MPG" we get, from adding one gallon of gas to a tiny generator to charge a Model X???? Sure, in an *emergency* , you _could_ do this - tiny generator trying to charge one of the most power hungry electric cars that's also towing a trailer. But this just comes off as an exercise in providing the worst case scenario, to paint a tainted picture about charging electric cars. To what end? For the clicks? How can a car channel that seems well educated in all other aspects of automotive life, suddenly act like dinguses anytime featuring an electric car?

@500846

4 жыл бұрын

I’m pretty sure they are just using this series to troll. Putting out the most extreme of edge cases to trigger EV advocates and fossil gobbling Neanderthals alike. Electric cars are the future whether these guys think so or not. This whole series is just a FUD magnet.

@bW9taeH4

4 жыл бұрын

Actually Tesla makes the least power hungry cars. Take a look at the battery sizes and ranges. Take a look at the very latest cars coming out from the legacy companies that were supposedly waiting in the wings and were poised to drive Tesla into the ground, and you will see that they use much larger batteries for much less range.

Some cities in Japan have had fleets of diesel trucks for quite a few years for rescuing stranded motorists; they are diesel trucks equipped with diesel generators.

Just pull up the spec sheet of your generator. You can already ballpark how much charge you can get per gallon of oil, that's just third grade math. Assuming the GP2200i is consuming around 0.75 gph (full load) when delivering the 12 A current, and knowing the basic tesla model X has a 237 Ah battery... It would take 237/12 = 19.75 hours to fully charge the battery. Let's round it up to 20 hours. Running for 20 hours, the GP2200i would consumme 0,75 x 20 = 15 gallons to a full charge, that's a 300 miles range on a basic model x. 300/15 = 20 mpg. To conclude, expect 20 mpg with a 2 kW generator.

Go to 7:40 to skip past the generator unboxing.

@Anand-qb1wp

4 жыл бұрын

Wish I had seen this at first. Thanks!

filling small engines with the right amount of oil is easy. tip the motor on about a 20 degree angle forward when filling. Fill until its completely full to the top. When you lean it back level it should be pretty close. After a few times you will know the exact angle to get it perfect every time.

Nice Job. Thank you

How much gas does the generator use to fully charge fully?

I Recommend a jenny with 240 output! Far better and quicker charging! You guys should try a Super Capacitor, with 4KW of LiFePo4 200ah batteries, and solar panels to charge it!

@z50king29

2 жыл бұрын

Lifepo4 batteries are not a capacitor

You know, you can use camping sites and other chargers along your route as well.

@bW9taeH4

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, you can go to any RV outlet at a campsite and add up to 38 miles of range to a Tesla in an hour. But it's unlikely that you'd ever need to do that. I did that once for convenience because I happened to be camping and plugging in where I happened to have been parked meant having a full charge well before morning. But it's not as if I had to rely on it. The supercharger was at the wrong end of the park, and had I gotten really low, my return trip would have been slightly longer.

@cruiser97eric1

4 жыл бұрын

You can park on some stranger's front lawn and plug your Tesla into his 120V outlet without asking for permission. You might think I am joking, but there was a news report not long ago of a Tesla driver who did just that.

@bibasik7

4 жыл бұрын

@@cruiser97eric1 Yes, drunk people do stupid things. Just because they drive a Tesla doesn't make it any different.

@bW9taeH4

4 жыл бұрын

@@cruiser97eric1 aside from that being ridiculous, there are rude people who do all sorts of things all the time. They are not considered news even if they impose on neighbors. If I went to the press and said that someone was blocking my driveway, and I thought that it should be an international news story, I doubt I'd get much traction. A stranger plugged something into an outlet without permission. He drove a Tesla? In that case we better let the entire world know about it! Blocking my driveway would be much more of a burden.

Can you power the car directly with the generator ? I mean bypass the battery and solder the output of the generator to where the motor of the ev is ?

Why are you still using 120v receptacles to plug in the mobile connector and not 240v 40 amp (or higher) circuit? Same thing with the generator you used.

It's still better off to just go with a hybrid

@wboller89

3 жыл бұрын

If you wanna use gas like a loser

@dearbulls

3 жыл бұрын

@@wboller89 lol. Your electricity also comes from dead dinosaur.

How much gas was left in the generator did they not measure it?

@killer2600

4 жыл бұрын

It wouldn't matter, the Tesla stopped charging at an unknown time. The generator was running doing nothing for some time.

@phillipsusi1791

4 жыл бұрын

@@killer2600 When it stops charging, you get a notice on your cell phone. I guess they should have paid attention.

11:05 so true! 30 employees walking around but no one can hear the phone ring :O

Thats why I purchased the Honda Generator. Great Video!

Some basic facts of the generator. an inverter based generator does not put out a sine wave!!!! Only mechanical rotor based alternators do this. the 2 types of things which discribe the output is voltage and current. Any inverter based generator voltage switched 200 volt DC voltage which is no way a sine wave. The current which depends on the load. It maybe close to sine wave if it is put into an inductive load or a heavy filter load. But a capacitive load like a battery charger, not a hope If ypu beblieve in 'Pure' sine wave inverter generators, I would like to sell you the Statue of Liberty.

@maycuervo

4 жыл бұрын

Weldon Thompson yes, it’s not a “true” sine wave but it’s close enough. A rotor based wave output in a generator that small would be even worse.

@weldonthompson5410

4 жыл бұрын

@@maycuervo I have taught electrical engineering for 20 years so my proactial experience is proof to me

@leskobrandon538

4 жыл бұрын

And this is the reason why there will always be Coal, Combine cycle, and nuclear power plants with actual rotating generators.. and can't forget about the hydro plants either since they can act as synchronous condensers to put reactive power back on the grid from all of the inductive loading from HVAC, solar power , Tesla owners etc.. without reactive power production, there is no grid, frequency decay is real and at about 59.2hz almost everything trips off line leaving just hydro units on... These Electric cars owners have no idea what it takes to generate power and maintain the grid... It's almost like they're living in California where dope is legal... Oh wait, where are Teslas built again?...

@weldonthompson5410

4 жыл бұрын

@@leskobrandon538 I think my tin hat fell off. You don't produce reactive power. the load is reactive XL. Under no load the generator will happily produce a pure sine wave voltage. its only when you switch on the load does the current do it thing. ( this exclude line losses which most enectrical people noe about. ) Arround my way where one place produces more power than they need it is tranmitted by DC HVDC 400 KV to the mainland grid. and driven back to main countinent grid by a kick ass inverter driven by overvoltage not torque.

@leskobrandon538

4 жыл бұрын

@@weldonthompson5410 well, I guess my 35yrs as control room operator and have operated all sizes of power plants must be wrong.... I guess producing reactive power by over exciting the generator field is the wrong way of doing it... Ill make sure that the Share Holders and CEO that we've been doing wrong for the last 110yrs...

In California you might need something. PG&E might dictate when you can charge anything. Dont be late for work.

What if you have a bigger generator with a 240 30 amp outlet. Would this be doable with a EV truck? (Put the generator in the bed. Plus it has a ground connection)

fuel to charge distance?

Somebody needs to get Alex a cheeseburger. A stiff wind is going to blow him away. lol

@wyattlong8335

4 жыл бұрын

Louie Smith 😂😂

The generator doesn't sound good. Is the gas cap open????

@JAMESWUERTELE

4 жыл бұрын

David Hoover it’s the crap ethanol gas we get in Colorado, my Honda runs like crap on it. So I have to use non ethanol and it runs like it should.

@Dankcatvacs

4 жыл бұрын

@@JAMESWUERTELE runs that much better on $4 gas?

@JAMESWUERTELE

4 жыл бұрын

thatdankcat yes really, buy a gallon and try it out in anything, mower, generator, trimmer.

@iPhoneAppReviewer

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe it's due to the fact that they just unboxed a brand new generator and are immediately running it at peak power output when it hasn't gone through its 5 hour break in cycle and oil change.

@maycuervo

4 жыл бұрын

thatdankcat you don’t need to pay $4 to have non ethanol gas. You can remove the ethanol from regular gas very easily. Just add water and the ethanol will mix with it, then you remove the water-ethanol mixture from the bottom of the container.

Great video guys!!!

I don't know a lot about electric çars but can you use a 220/240v generator?

They give you too much oil, I’ll have to be checking the oil....what a stupid complaint....

@JP-we2em

4 жыл бұрын

Stupid observations should be the new title of TFL lately they're videos are pointless trash.

@JP-we2em

4 жыл бұрын

@Why Me I'm here because tfl was awesome in the past. Some videos are decent still, most lately are trash. Sue me for having hope it might have been a decent one.

@dugangant

4 жыл бұрын

I'd be happy with them giving me extra oil but this guy is complaining. What's with some people? smh!

Tow a diesel generator run the diesel generator and plug it in while driving

@alientehnologi

4 жыл бұрын

Electric cars won`t let you drive while charging.

@Dan0rioN

4 жыл бұрын

@@alientehnologi Hack it!!!

@newhere0

4 жыл бұрын

You will screw battery

@christiandietz6341

4 жыл бұрын

Then just tow it with a diesel powered tractor 😁

@newhere0

4 жыл бұрын

@@christiandietz6341 you can get a million miles in that way

Are you sure it needs clean sine wave output? Power factor corrected chargers are brutes and take quite a wide range of voltage and frequency.

where's you earth ground, attached to the ground terminal on the generator to something preferably a grounding rod?

Is this a generator advertisement or a clip if a generator will charge a Tesla?

I may charge my rivian with a generator when I'm way up in the mtn

@The Fast Lane Car Can you do a video with this Inverter Generator as well please ? A-iPower Powered by Yamaha Inverter Generator. Or do you know if this spec will work without the grounding cable ?

Great video... informative