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@Jimbob1337

6 ай бұрын

Thanks for the shout out! I gotta say, this early game grind is nuts. At least it wasn't needing to level up to astronomical levels to get past the midgar boss russ

@Primalliquid92

6 ай бұрын

the chocobo nightmare in summon only was real...

It would be cool if you could put a counter on the screen that shows your hours played at that point. That way we can see how much grinding you do at different sections its required.

Enemy Skill was always one of my favorite materia to use in FF7; Matra Magic, a fairly strong multitarget attack avaliable as soon as you leave Midgar, arguably the best versions of White Wind and Mighty Guard, really cool looking attacks like Beta, Trine, and Shadow Flare; the works Man, I love Blue Mages in Final Fantasy

@youngchristopher14

6 ай бұрын

Too bad they made Blue Mage a single player only job in FF14

@MiBrCo4177

6 ай бұрын

You should check Blue Mage in final Fantasy XI online. Watch videos and you'll see how crazy cool it is. Also...XIV blue doesn't exist lol.

@gotdangedcommiesitellyahwa6298

6 ай бұрын

@@MiBrCo4177 Yes, it does. "The Blue Mage is a limited job in Final Fantasy XIV introduced in Stormblood Patch 4.5. It is not associated with any class and can only learn actions/abilities from enemies. Blue Mages have a lower level cap than other jobs, initially reaching a maximum level of 50 on release, which was raised to 60 in patch 5.15 and further to 70 in patch 5.45. Blue Mages can adopt the roles of tank, healer, or DPS based on the spells the player equips and Aetherial Mimicry. Its role as a limited job restricts the type of content it can participate in, making many blue mage activities self-contained."

@MiBrCo4177

6 ай бұрын

@@gotdangedcommiesitellyahwa6298 haha I know it does. It's my favorite job in the series but in XIV it being stuck as a limited job makes it non-existent to me. Appreciate the feedback though.

@gotdangedcommiesitellyahwa6298

6 ай бұрын

@@MiBrCo4177 Oh, gotcha. Sarcasm doesn't always come across in text.

"And no, we're not gonna power [Chocobuckle] up, before anybody thinks that." *Proceeds to power it up and use it the entire run until the final dungeon* I get why for the literal and figurative Wall, but would have liked to see it used less after that point.

@michaelhanson5773

5 ай бұрын

I mean he probably did fail the challenge from the beginning anyways... Not sure how he would have had any enemy skill materia from the start of the game getting off the train... There was a jump cut from train to naming characters to the beginners hall... Maybe his version starts with Enemy skill but swear he said had to go to beginner hall to get his first one via a cheat...

@WombatMan64

5 ай бұрын

@@michaelhanson5773 0:05 Rules of the challenge. Yes, that's exactly what he did, get to 7th heaven the normal way as no control over materia at that point. Then edit in enemy skill, and the actual challenge starts from there. It's like some other challenge channels (can you win using only Cloud - ignoring parts of the game where you literally can't play as Cloud)

But you can get magic hammer as soon as you have the tiny bronco so you can heal MP far before you get the highwind.

I think a quicker way to recover from supernova would be to use Angel whisper to fully heal one character, then have that character use white wind. Cool challenge though!

Love all these challenge runs you've been posting lately!

Always love these videos Primal, keep it up bro.

Sigh... Good ol' Blue Mage blues... I've always loved Blue Magic as a concept (and a classs, since Blue Mage is my favourite class) but it's a flawed one in most entries it's in: late availability in some, poor spell repertoire in others and/or way too expensive to rely on... Final Fantasy 5 version of it may very well be the best take on Blue Magic (available very early on the game, with a massive and diverse spell repertoire perfect as both main and secondary class and incredibly MP friendly to boot), which is both ironic and a shame... Since it was the first time it appeared in the franchise. Good job at clearing the challenge and of course at retaining your sanity XD .P.S.: A FF5 Blue Magic only challenge would be fun, I am tempted to try it myself someday...

FF7 Hardcore Nuzlocke: You can't overlevel opponents, you can’t use items in battle, if a character falls in battle they are dead and cannot be used again, and you cannot reload old saves to bypass deaths. If you do not have any valid characters to complete a section of the game (such as Barret is dead but you haven't beaten Dyne yet, or Barret and Cait are dead and you haven't escaped from Junon during the WEAPON raid yet), you have failed the run and must restart from the beginning.

@Crispy_Sprite1

6 ай бұрын

Wait. Let him cook

@curtisjones9372

6 ай бұрын

Like this shit, make it happen

@Aaronspark7

6 ай бұрын

Wonder if that would be more appropriate for ff6 considering how many party members are in that game.

@iantaakalla8180

6 ай бұрын

I love how because of the various scenarios you really need to keep every character alive save Yuffie and Vincent and Cait Sith.

@chazclark86

6 ай бұрын

This seems like an awesome rule set btw!

Enemy Skill is normally my main materia throughout the game, let’s see how this goes

I forgot about the chokobuckle, that you can get it stronger everytime you flee😅, nice video 😊

Dude when you have white wind, hammer and shadow you cant go wrong

My favorite part of these challenge runs is: Each game has its own gates that affect every run, But, each run has its own surprise hurdles. Mr. Liquid, you work really hard on all of this, Hard Ass Challenges and entertaining!! So Fun.

Dude really,just much respect from me. You got patience and what not,to do all these challenges,which i even never would try.

You should have got ???? from the floating scales from the Shinra mansion. When you was low on health you could have done plenty of damage especially against Demons Gate.

You can pair up Enemy Skill materia with MP Absorb to mitigate the MP consumption.

Dart? Legend of Dragoon reference? Im here for it! Nice work, trying to get by with red xiii as my blue mage, and man. Some of these spells. The zolom took me about half a day or so

Man i wish i had this much free time....

Enemy skills were my favorite attacks in ff7

A run I had a lot of fun with, and I'd like to see your take on, is a solo Blue Mage run through FF5. I'd done team battles with that and it was really easy due to cheese. Solo removes two of the biggest cheese moves. (Death Claw and L5 Death.)

Primal, Ultimate Weapon casts Shadowflare as a final attack before crashing into Cosmo Canyon as well. That's where I learned it from.

did u try moving cloud to front or back, or changing their order to see if that helped in the first Reno fight? maybe Reno is programmed to use that attack on the player in the first position more often, or something. idk, just wishing there was a way to make that fight easier to do like this!

Okay deadass I was thinking of a challenge like this a few days ago while watching your videos

Boy this looks like a fun idea!!!

You know what I'd love to see? A mod for one of the Final Fantasy games that lets you control the enemies. That way we can see a Primaliquid Vs chat challenge

Zolom will always eject the last person that hit him after his HP is lowered to 1/4.

I have always personally believed that supernova was a byproduct of the black materia being used by sephiroth.

Done this a few times myself. Always fun

I did enjoy that night with the Don, much better night than watching a Primal stream 😂

@Primalliquid92

6 ай бұрын

:(

Ive done this challenge. Was a lot of fun in my opinion. But i started my run once outside of Midgar (Midgar didnt count)

Fun fact casting angel whisper on a character and then using white wind with that character is better in some cases.

This is one of those that when I heard it, I was like this doesn't sound too bad, but the more I thought about it....

Nice!

I didn't know that Chocobuckle couldn't be used on Diamond Weapon. That's really cool, thank you Primal.

@veghesther3204

6 ай бұрын

It can't it counts as a PHYSICAL attack but so does the ???? one sure that one does 9998 damage at 9999 max HP with 1 HP left BUT Diamond weapon SHOULD be immune to even it.

I was expecting to see you using ???? a lot more before this started but then again you still steam rolled it after getting beta so it makes sense. I'd love to see how you would tackle the Vincent's Gambit mod though in a challenge video, you start with Vincent in the North Crater and have to use all the items you find there to beat Sephiroth.

Enemy Skill materia walked so Quistis and Quina could run.

I love enemy skill. I learned Big Guard the second I was able to. Its extremely useful in my opinion. White Wind to me was a bit more difficult to obtain. Both together though makes you a boss. Then you have Flamethrower, Beta, Trine, Aqualung... all very powerful AOE attacks. Shadow flare too but thats end game.

Primal: "This is the power of Chocobo a$$" Me: (Thinking about Chocolina) Also Me: I can strangely agree to that....

Sick video, thank you. Can you beat ff8 from casting drawn magic only? Is my guess.

Lmaoooo can't wait for you to do "can you beat Final Fantasy X by only having your team attack each other."

Amazing

I'd personally put a few addendums to this challenge: 1. Put Chokobuckle on the initial Enemy Skill Materia. 2. A softcap on Chokobuckle. 300 Damage for Midgar. 1000 for the rest of disc 1. 2000 for disc 2. 3000 for disc 3 3. No items in battle. No exceptions. You only get 1 Chocobuckle.

I love Blue Magic, it has always been my favourite concept within this whole franchise. That being said... FF5 Blue Mages only, FF6 Rages and Lores only & FF8 Blue Magic Limit Breaks only? I'm not quite sadistic enough to recommend this challenge in FF9 or 10 mind you... Although I did delete that part from my comment to write this.

@BRHency

6 ай бұрын

So for FF6 rages, wouldn't you be limited to Gau (and by extension Gogo) and that could be problematic in areas where you have to split your party (Kefka's Tower primarily). I'd probably say it's ok to use a specific character that you cast Berserk (allowing Umaro for endgame) on themselves (since anyone can learn it, I'd suggest Locke and Celes) but limit shenanigans like 8x attacks not allowed. Final party I suppose would have to be Gau, Gogo, and Umaro all taking on the tower + Kefka in single man parties (which is possible if they are grinded up because some of Gau's rages are particularly strong and Umaro with haste should be plenty strong enough). I limited myself to 3 characters once and if they are sufficiently leveled it's really not too bad to finish off the game, but being uncontrollable would really necessitate using the proper Gau rages. Mog might be an option as well if he only dances, I guess. FF6 autobattler challenge.

I think you could have used White Wind on Gi in the cave. I think i would have also inflicted it with a bunch of status ailments too.

24:50 I read an interview or ultimania translation or something where Supernova is actually just a Teleportation spell. He teleport's Cloud and his party to a far off planet in a far off time for its destruction to hurt them.

@user-xf4ju5rg9b

5 ай бұрын

Its better if its a genjutsu/mind attack where you are shown literal world end..that is why you also get status affects like confusion.

Trine always been one of my fav enemy skills, then shadow flare but that’s late on.

I bet someone already mentioned it, but you missed ???? from Shinra mansion. That would've saved you the Chocobuckle grind. But I guess the latter is more convenient since it is so consistant in comparison.

Thanks Primal.

Primal, you truly are the master beta

@Primalliquid92

6 ай бұрын

thank you, i do try to be

How did you got the first enemy Skill materia in sector 5

If anyone can do this challenge then its you Primal... your the best 🎉😁

Very nice challenge

FF8 challenge run. You can only cast drawn magic offence/defence If the enemy has no offensive spells you can use previously drawn/stored. The only time you can use stored magic is if the enemy has no draw magic you can cast. This applies to health spells too.

you mentioned not being able to restore your MP untill you get the highwind, However, assuming you went fourth to do the Wutai side quest before the highwind. you can get the magic hammer Enemy skill. Which steals mp

*my actual reaction seeing this video pop up on my phone*, “HELL YEAHH” luckily I was closed and none of my co workers heard me

Blue mage run lets go

Supernova works more like a summon magic, pulling an enemy into it's own space to attack, rather than regular magic. Sephiroth is also skilled with illusions. The him that you see in Supernova isn't really there. The death battle (screw attack) between him and Virgil (devil may cry) is the main source of info in this for me.

Just wanted to clarify a couple things about Sephiroth here. 1. Supernova Is a real supernova, for those who believe it's some illusion spell or something. From most of info we see/know in a bunch of places, it does seem to be an actual supernova. Cloud and Sephy can tank that shiz. Crazy I know. 2. Now that we know that, why doesn't Sephy just blow the planet up? Well, there are a couple things here. First off, he doesn't want to. We must remember that Sephy adopts Jenovas goals for himself. Jenova herself seems to be some kind of "planet eating" alien. Sephy too, wants to do this. He simply wants to wound the planet so that it's forced to use what is essentially its life force so that he can absorb it and become even more godlike. Lets also not forget that Sephy is a bit of a douche and takes things personally. He doesn't want a quick end for the planet or for Cloud. He wants to torment him and destroy what Cloud cares for. Stated by him multiple times all over the place. He would rather slowly kill everyone on the planet while Cloud watches before he even attempts to kill Cloud. (if he even wants that anymore lol) I've also seen people theorize that apparently "meteor" is the most powerful magic in 7, but that doesn't mean it has the most destructive Aoe dmg in 7. Meaning it's possibly more powerful than a supernova but is condensed into a smaller area. This would still make sense in game too, for what is said about it.

@velvetbutterfly

5 ай бұрын

I think some ultimania or interview thing says Sephiroth teleports the party into a supernova in a far off place and time, it's not that he actually makes it happen

ok chocobuckle for demon wall was impressive. i got the ???? from the shinra mansion and kept low HP on 2 players to drop 2-3k hits per cast

Love the videos, they're always fun to watch. Some suggestions if you ever wanted to play them; FF9 - No Gil spending (including hot&cold, auction house etc) which is pretty chilled as a playthrough. FF12 ZA - Only bare hands (no magic, damaging items except maybe knots of rust, tekniks that aren't magical such as numerology and horology are allowed due to flying enemies) which isn't terrible to play through. FF 10 - Only auto abilities such as counter (can be done without steal but would probably be more difficult and you'd have to mod in a counter weapon/auto potion armour) from the start. I'm sure you already have a huge list of videos you already have though. Keep up the great content!

@THEREDNEK247

6 ай бұрын

That ff12 challenge would be a go

2nd time watching whole way through, good show

I feel like this run gets really trivial once you get Cait Sith... aside from maybe a handful of attacks. It's difficult to heal your characters with white wind after supernova for instance.

cool idea for a video :)

I think if I do this I’d do attack only until I have the enemy skill materia without modding it in. That way you don’t have to do that level grind just to get through those early bosses and you can learn beta not long after.

9:30 You do know that the Zolom ejects whoever does the last hit that puts it below 2000 HP, right? So if Aerith is the only one attacking, he will always eject her.

If I recall correctly wouldnt sadness be used as a small def boost as it also slows your limit which isn't relevant in this run?

@gotdangedcommiesitellyahwa6298

6 ай бұрын

For real. 30% damage reduction could make a lot of this trivial.

@Durbinator

6 ай бұрын

@gotdangedcommiesitellyahwa6298 I didn't know it was 30% I thought it was 10% thanks for the information haha 😄

@gaminggoddess85

6 ай бұрын

Back row + sadness is what FF7 low level runs live on from what I understand. I used that strategy to get Beta from the big scary swamp snek as soon as possible the last time I played.

I loved FF7 when I was a kid, I also think I liked FF8 but for some reason I don't remember even playing it although I know I owned it and played it

FFX challenge rules: No using the attack command or the item command Cannot cast spells or use items outside of combat No overdrives No Summons None of the "extract" abilities are allowed as they do full attack damage and only cost 1 mp No two characters can take the same node (possible exception of Lancet as I think lancet is required to beat this challenge) How far can you take this challenge I wonder?

Would obviously take some modding - but would be cool to see you try this on FFIX only using Quina’s blu magic

24:24 Super Nova isn't an actual event. It's a visual image of how much "pain" it causes to the team. Which could be described as, grand as the galaxy.

Kinda surprised you didn't go get Goblin Punch as soon as possible, just for a free attack

@veghesther3204

6 ай бұрын

On disc 2 Goblin Punch is pure CRAP in this one.

@AlexOvTheAbyss

6 ай бұрын

@@veghesther3204 Ah gotcha. I wasn't sure damage wise how it compared, just knew it was free to cast

Should do a bravely default 1 no exp run next.

Completely overlooked ???? - enemy skill it seems. I personally abused the hell out of it in the similar challenge run. Oh well...

FF9, skills only. Grace until you rescue Vivi and Steiner. If a Vivi solo run is possible (+ Ozma) then that should be easy!

Is it even a question? In my last playthrough I torched the early game with Beta before collecting Trine, Aqualung and Magic Breath to round out my elemental coverage with White Wind and Mighty Guard for pretty much invincible support. Enemy Skill is soooo much better than magic or summons.

@nagwaebrahimmarzouk1104

6 ай бұрын

fax brother

@nagwaebrahimmarzouk1104

6 ай бұрын

I literally burned the game with aqualung Metra magic and big guard

@gaminggoddess85

6 ай бұрын

@@nagwaebrahimmarzouk1104 I'm a sister, but I'm glad you agree! Although in a very embarrassing moment where I told myself "THIS time I won't use Vincent's Galian Beast on Materia Keeper!" because I absentmindedly make that mistake every run (it absorbs fire), I used Beta on it instead 😓

Hearing that you were going to get Chocobuckle, I thought "this can be pretty, but very time consuming, if he's gonna max it out."

@craigfunk3453

6 ай бұрын

I rarely use chocobuckle myself in normal runs outside setting it up for quick activation of lucky 7s against emerald and ruby weapon

@user-bw4jm1bv1i

6 ай бұрын

@@craigfunk3453 yeah, I've never used it. Since it takes some time to make it useful. But this guy invests a lot of time, compared to myself. I wonder if you can overflow this (or if anyone has tried)?

18:40 Since the remake is a "new" reality im not so sure this will happen in the remake again. Actually im pretty sure it wont since the weapons woke up when they sensed the danger from Sephiroth but it looks like he will take a different way now. Maybe we wont even see any Weapons at all.

This will be a tough challenge You won’t be able to access the enemy skills without using other materia such as the manipulate command to learn white wind and big guard

Could you mod an all Tonberry run? Low damage Karma at first but devestating at the end? Or an all cactuar run if you feel blessed by RNjesus

I'm surprised how little you used Magic Hammer in this run! It's so useful when you need an MP boost! Great challenge mate, I loved this!

@Primalliquid92

6 ай бұрын

cant actually get it until after the highwind and by then i had enough mp for most stuff

@TheHornsofValmar

6 ай бұрын

You'd most likely have to do the whole Wutai sidequest but pretty sure you can get it once you have the Tiny Bronco. Pretty sure you can learn it from the weed looking mobs around Wutai.@@Primalliquid92

@johnnybeard

6 ай бұрын

@Primalliquid92 I usually get it as part of the Yuffie side quest with the enemies outside Wutai on Disc 1 but I appreciate you didn't recruit

@TbagsPS

6 ай бұрын

Magic hammer saved my @ss against carry armor when I was a kid. That thing killed me so many times, I think I was only around level 35 and mostly relied on summons to beat bosses. Not a great strategy 😅

@veghesther3204

6 ай бұрын

About Carry armor even at lv 60 with 9999 HP 999 MP I'll NEVER fight it UNLESS you use Knights of the round on IT making magic hammer completely worthless. But Trine/Magic breath won't actually DO 9999 to it per use AT lv 60+.

Before I even start watching I'm going to say it's possible cause I have done it but I am curious to see how you tackle some of the issues.

Every day is a Final Fantasy 7 school day. Final Fantasy 7 is one game you never truly master.

The zolem will always eject the character that damaged it after its standing on its tail. meaning you need to be damaging it with another character to even have a chance to learn beta. this would be a lot more interesting if you could customize the game a bit making more e-skills available while still in midgar.

you should do a Vincent only limit break whenever possible

As far as Roth-Goth's Supernova skill, the whole 2-minute animation was added in for International releases, the original animation being much shorter and a fair bit weaker. According to some sources, the attack is simply a powerful illusion (and considering the attack can't even kill people, being an over-glorified Demi3 Spell...)

@velvetbutterfly

5 ай бұрын

Other sources say it's teleportation magic. That Sephiroth sends the part to a far off space and time

Merry Christmas all.

A bit surprised you didn't use ???? more. That is actually a really good enemy skill and is a low mp cost. Enjoyed the video anyway.

"no clue why he has to cast meteor if he can cast supernova" I assume that he doesn't cast a supernova himself, but is merely able to temporarily transport the party to a time and place where a supernova happens to be taking place. After the damage is done the spell breaks and you're forced back to your own position in spacetime. Sephiroth simply isn't able to transport an entire planet in the same way.

Im sure you could. Because that materia is broken. Big Guard, Magic Hammer, Angel Whisper, White Wind, etc.

@calemr

6 ай бұрын

And yet, since it doesn't work with most blue materia, it's far Less broken than a lot of other materia can be.

@jaimereupert4247

6 ай бұрын

@@calemr true but the enemy skills you can get make up for it. (Protect and Shell for all team members, full heal plus removal of negative states, auto revive, magic restoration, powerful abilities, plus other skills)

The Supernova attack from Safer Sephiroth is basiccally a Genjutsu attack like wht you might see happening in Naruto.

Still waiting for a radiata stories run primal 😁

How much of a masochist would you need to be to do FF12 proud mode? I attempted it, and got stuck at the final story boss. Also, trying to do the Subterra was an utter nightmare.

I've done this before. Even beat Ruby. Also maybe try Initial equipment and no materia except ES/Manipulate. Its still extremely doable and really not that hard Also the star of ES only runs is ???.

I'm pretty sure I saw this channel beat FF7 using only potions, so I'm sure using only Enemy Skill is an easy task.

Im currently doing a modded run with a solo character mod on new threat 2.0. it's kicking my ass... give it a try

Rufus is cool in Remake. Can't imagine agreeing with that comment

Sweet

Yes, that's how you do LLNIIENACMO challenges

@velvetbutterfly

5 ай бұрын

I can't figure out what NACMO stands for.

@pppoopoo4514

5 ай бұрын

@@velvetbutterfly No Accessories, Command Materia Only

Oh god, and that E-skill was just as a dumb suggestion! Just for another idea, have you tried only starting equipments on the characters?