I like how leveling works in FF2.

I did thiss challenge about a year ago in the NES version, the bugs in the nes version make it so much more fun

Before I even watch this: Yes you can, I have done it. Turning everyone into uber mages is hilariously broken if you are patient enough. Also tossing in some bare knuckle shenanigans makes it even better because then you can essentially make a team of Fairy Tail dragon/godslayers

@reloadpsi

7 ай бұрын

Helps that being barehanded makes your spells more effective.

@Cyril86

7 ай бұрын

@@reloadpsi Wait, it does? FF2 is weird, man.

@RoninCatholic

7 ай бұрын

Any armor stronger than Mythtil also makes your spells weaker.

@bivcbmtgstgtssscqcrddgtrsm2257

7 ай бұрын

Oh hey. I like Fairy tail.

@SaanMigwell

6 ай бұрын

I did it once too. I think I was 24. Destroyed FF2. Me and one of my soldiers took turns grinding at outposts with a GBA.

As someone who has done challenge runs in ff2, i was like: "Oh yeah, that will be easy" Then it hit me; "Wait, we aren't just spamming Berserk, Haste, and Aura in this run"

@DarkFrozenDepths

7 ай бұрын

You don't even need that much if the optional dungeon is there to get the character unique weapons... or can do the matching minigame after getting toad to lv16

@michaeljohnson6905

7 ай бұрын

Two streamers on Twitch, who do an annual series replay with entry specific challenges, just did a run of II with no magic or swords. It was pain x]

It hurt my soul to see you put so much armor on them because it actually lowers their magic damage considerably. If you make them just have mage armor then their damage will sky rocket. Makes the challenge a bit easier because you can one rotation most enemies

@locke103

6 ай бұрын

Ha... imagine if the Int/Soul penalty were still a thing

@randydapurpleboy

Ай бұрын

@@locke103 true, they removed these penalties in future releases (from GBA onwards, correct me if im wrong) but what armor actually DOES is reducing your evasion significantly (also the chance of increasing evasion is diminished you basically will not increase evasion ever) when i play ff2, first thing i do is remove armor, helmets and others to get high evasion, and if you wanna crank up the evasion some more put in your left and right hand shields, also always get better shields since the better the shield, the higher your evasion increases (your evasion also increases whenever your weapon level goes up characters probably learn how to parry with their weapons which could be the reason for that.)

If there's a way to speed up the grind, always do it. We aren't trying to make you waste hours for no reason.

I only seen the start so far. But Teleport in this game is OP it can teleport a lot of endgame bosses at high levels.

@benjiiiiiiiii

7 ай бұрын

Yep there's not much it can't get, IIRC it's just undead, flans, golems, and some unique bosses that are immune.

I actually like this game- it's a shame it gets the amount of hate it does. I have liked all the FF games (yes, 8 and 13 as well). This is an interesting challenge to tackle in this game!

@Primalliquid92

7 ай бұрын

i agree FF2 is actually in my top 5

@knightsurda

7 ай бұрын

FF8 is the only final fantasy I loathe playing, but thats due to my ineptitude as a child getting to disc 4 at level 100 wondering why the game just keeps getting harder, was the max level higher or was I undergeared? Nope turns out im a dumbass and made the game unwinnable and because im so stubborn I refuse to play the game again from the start to fix my mistake ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 2 isn't bad once you get the ball rolling, it takes a bit to get there though and not a lot of people have that kind of patience.

@Iavasechui

3 ай бұрын

@@Primalliquid92absolutely love ff2 so fun to just break the game ^_^

Flare in FF2 is essentially a black magic equivalent to holy. Both do physical damage.

I've spent an uncomfortable percentage of my lifetime trying to level up magic in this game.

@deathblade32

7 ай бұрын

I did a double equip of shield, fought the commanders, then spammed attack 100 times, swapped the shields out for weapons, to power level weapons so they could be 16 at the start of the game

@ZeusTheIrritable

7 ай бұрын

@@deathblade32 I might have to try that.

@deathblade32

7 ай бұрын

@@ZeusTheIrritable With the way the leveling formula works its for weapons is (Current battle rating - current weapon rating) + 10 + actions in combat (cap 100) The max xp needed for weapon level is 100 so this guarantees a level up since the commander is a 5 combat rating that doesn't run away

@ZeusTheIrritable

7 ай бұрын

@@deathblade32 I always did the tried and true method of beating the snot out the party with a single weak enemy watching in confusion.

If you're patient enough, you can get ultima to do over 9000 damage. And no, I'm not saying that cause of the meme. This game is so hilariously easy to overgrind in. I knew this wouldn't be that much of a challenge unless you intentionally keep stats low. Even a SINGLE character can do this run easily if you're grinding enough.

You're an absolute madlad for subjecting yourself to this, but I'm all for it. Also, the FF series really loves to use the "boss burns down towns" trope.

I love this game so much... Maria: "Hey Firion, how are we going to get strong enough to defeat the Emperor? Are we going to slaughter scores of demons in some remote dungeon for training?" Firion: "Nah, let's take a walk outside Altair and beat the shit out of each other for hours while a goblin watches. Also, we should probably be naked. Oh and constantly rain fire down on us during the whole session." Maria: "I think we should see other people."

I'd love to see you do a Challenge run for World Of Final Fantasy. Maybe beating the game as only Lann and Reynn?

Currently playing this all the way through for the first time. Loving the game!

@rommyremus9650

7 ай бұрын

I enjoyed this game. I liked that every battle mattered because of the way you got stronger. What you did during a fight actually mattered. Very different very 😎

@starpowerel7172

6 ай бұрын

if you like ff2 i highly recommend the saga series, they have pretty similar level up system and all sorts of cool diffirent gimmicks you can use

The thing with pixel remaster ff games is they are more for nostalgia purposes,not quite for challenges for general playthrough. This is the only problem i have about pixel remastered FFs. Good to know that people think out side the box lol. Good vid.

The way he says "Lamia" is like nails on a chalk board to me. It's "La-Mia" not "La-MeyeAh"

@reloadpsi

7 ай бұрын

I think at this point he's doing it on purpose as he's got a lengthy KZread career of mispronunciations and malapropisms. Once you get used to it it's quite charming.

This is actually my favorite mainline FF

Guy broke the challenge rules when he spoke beaver. Speaking beaver is not a magic spell.

I'm always impressed by the magic only runs without ethers.

It's nice to see one of these challenges that actually looks fun to play. Lol

Nice! I like your challenges!!

this is a challenge that i would love to try myself too, so thank you for making this vid!

I thoroughly enjoy watching your videos, always nice to watch ff challenge runs. I've been playing them for 30 years, and never have I become bored with them. Excellent

Getting ultima to level 16 take a long time the grind is real.

@reloadpsi

7 ай бұрын

Thankfully it's actually worth it in this version.

I was honestly looking for this challenge a week ago and was sad to not see anyone do this haha. I commend you

Hey, you defended with Gordon. You broke your own rule. 😆

Thanks for your videos. They help my sanity regularly.

Solid, now looking forward to Solo Magic Only 😀

@benjiiiiiiiii

7 ай бұрын

It's probably faster to solo the game since menuing just Firion over to Teleport away all foes in one action is way faster than menuing four characters all game.

Great song choice for the video

Great video!

The hard part is never ever bosses. Its the fight to get there so if you use no encounter this game is too easy.

FF2 had one of my favorite mechanics in the use it to level it mechanic

In honor of rule 3. Praise to the Baha!

I started an “attack only” ff2 run. Was planning on doing a magic only run after because I hate myself.

@annikamyren3026

7 ай бұрын

😂

Just signed up for a monthly Ko-Fi and I can honestly say that using the speed up for grinding (time and xp) is only a good thing. Means less grief for you and more video for us.

i just finished FF2 PRand i found magic completely broken most of my melee attacks were really weak against bosses for some reason, must be something i didn't understood while my magic user was fine for almost the whole game (only exception is the red soul) no joke my melee were doing 100 on the final boss while magic nuked it also i barely did any farming, most of my run i just used magic during all fights and my mp/int/spells increased naturally, by the time i was at the cyclone, fire/blizzard/thunder were lv8 anyways, love your content, keep the good work

@Primalliquid idk if you ever knew, but there is a hidden mechanic for magic damge that is based off what your armor weight. I learned this from another youtuber HCBailly, he has done alot of research for finding out all the mechanics of the game and the heavier your equipment is the less magic damage you do. I cant remember if its magic accuracy or actual base damage. If you need more information on it, i highly looking at HCBailly's FF2 videos to get some information on that.

@locke103

6 ай бұрын

A lot of earlier FF games used early D&D elements. As in, consider what armor does. It protects you, yes. But it weighs you down. Magic requires focus, maybe specific hand movements. If armor hinders their ability to utilize magic, of course potency will drop faster than the soap in a federal prison. Imagine a Cure10 targeting your whole party, and everyone only recovers 30-ish HP per cast. That's the system at work. That's the "design flaw" that adds a bit of logic to how fantasy elements COULD work.

FF2 has many flaws, but i still like it. You made yourself a real Challenge there. Every weapons exept staff and knife, every shield and every heavy armor lowers your magic. Attack and healing. This effect stacks, so the more you have equipped from the above, the weaker you'll get.

Yay! You did it!

I would suggest a fists-only FF2 run but that might be too easy.

@reloadpsi

7 ай бұрын

Yep :P

I find it funny how everybody always talks about how final fantasy 2 is one of the worst games and yet I'm finishing it up right now and it's one of the favorite games that I've ever played I think. I realize that the original version may be not quite as polished and accessible as the pixel remaster but the pixel remaster version that I'm playing is a great game and I am very much enjoyed it

I remember doing this on NES with my best friend during highschool. It's easy if you know what magic Is broken and make it easy.

now the question is... can you beat FF1 with 4 black mages ?

@reloadpsi

7 ай бұрын

I've done it. I didn't have fun.

if you needed a boost doesnt double shields in the backrow give you basically max evasion and take less damage? also if you need an hp and mp boost theres a hp/mp switch spell that will get you an hp boost every fight. but since you are not grinding and just running through the game it could always be easier.

Can you beat ff2 using only drops?

i really need to get back to work on this game's trophies. :)

I love FF 2 because it's the first of the "junction" FF games (FF2, 6, 7, and 8) and was so ahead of its time. With a proper leveling system for the characters, or at least a less bad one, it would be even better. I did a no grind challenge once, basically had to plan out every step and take the shortest distance between two points. It was 1.5 hells.

Hello , you say the magic is weak but i'm prety sure the magic damage is nerf if you equipe gear, you should try too remove equipement on 1 character and test if the damage change

17:57 You chose "Defend" with Josef. Maybe your rule set needs to be fleshed out more.

Hands down the best FF

Commenting at the start of the video but seems like one of the easier challenges. Just got to get good at casting magic with 2x speed and you will get the 10k max in no time.

If you're thinking a solo Firion run is worth doing, it's not as hard as you think. Since you're the only target, your HP raises faster.

@Primalliquid92

7 ай бұрын

i know that was why i did magic only instead of solo character

@sebastianlucas704

7 ай бұрын

It's not hp, it's evasion. Evasion is busted in this game. Just get it up to 5-50, and watch as most attacks miss you. Evasion also snowballs in levels. This means, it levels up faster later on. 8-99 make you nigh untouchable.

FF2 would've surpassed FF originals had square released it in the US. I'm just thinking about my 10 year old self. The modern gripes would not have existed, and we would have thought the system was the "best" rpg system. I was a nerd though, most of my friends preferred SMB, Contra, Life Force, Tecmo bowl etc. But my best friend named after Lake Tahoe, well; we found, rented, and beat every NES rpg we could get our hands on. Never beat Tombs and Treasures though.

I believe soul of rebirth ff2 expansion on the gba was more challenging for me. You use the dead characters from ff2 and if you didn’t level their stats and spells you were screwed

FF3 onion knight only. pixel master version. good luck lol (honestly think this would be nigh impossible without grinding to jblvl 99 at the very start. dont even get spells in the pixelmaster like the 3ds versions. but the reward would be getting the onion gear and making the final boss beyond easy)

@pheonixmmkc

7 ай бұрын

I've done blue jobs only and it's quite a struggle, outside of NES glitches, I don't think it's possible

I love FF2 and 3 from the pixel remasters!

Hell nah you cant mention a low rate boss drop in a video without reseting for it! #JusticeForLamiaRibbon

@reloadpsi

7 ай бұрын

The drop rate isn't even all that low. I ended up with spare ribbons by the end of Pandaemonium.

Are you ever going to platinum the other pixel remaster games?

What's the background music?

I think the spell is barrier, doesn't that block a lot of stat debuffs? I think I recall a spell that blocks some.

@locke103

6 ай бұрын

Aura, which was glitched in the FC version

Im guessing toad and mini dont act as instant kill spells in this version of the game since thats 100% what i was expecting to happen lol. Guessing its only original and ps1 anthology versions

@Abysslover91

7 ай бұрын

It's in the nes version too

@rawcoustic1718

7 ай бұрын

What version is this?

@locke103

6 ай бұрын

It's in every version

Weapons and armor also penalize magic too

Can you beat FF4 with only Cecil?

I can only imagine who wrote in rule #3...😉

FF2 is one of my favorite FF's. I enjoy watching your videos, but FF2 was on the Famicom, not the NES.

The grind is *three times faster

I like how you named the guy who can't articulate sentences properly "Twitter" lmao

Can you beat ff7 only using chocobo mog

Have you heard of Etrian Odyssey?

Look behind you

Fast forward option is fine with me

Funny think is I was going to suggest this as a challenge run, if you didn't do it yet. Well, nvm eh? ;)

Ff2 is a great game I love breaking this game.

You know, looking at Josef there, that didn't look like a spell. Looks like that run is invalid doesn't it?

At least you are playing the pixel remaster and not that psp version.

DO FINAL FANTASY 8 WITH ONLY MAGIC NEXT....

@Primalliquid92

7 ай бұрын

i have done... check the playlist int he description xD

@djrakman3909

7 ай бұрын

@@Primalliquid92 I could only see the requiem and ragnorak mods. i could not find a FF8 magic only challenge....

Imagine if they ditch the stat progression method and change it to normal exp gain and levels, people would still consider it final fantasy 2? is the only game I tried and never finish it because i never adapted to this new system

Said this would probably be pretty easy, and I was right.

Why double shields.. they have a huge magic penalty for shield that stack

@Primalliquid92

7 ай бұрын

because the extra evasion works out far better earlier on

One of these days I want to just start the game with a save that has me maxed out in anything and go through wrecking face. The grind in this game is real and saps the joy out of it.

Please do FFX but you can only use bahamut

I actually really liked ff2

if it was not so hard to get, i would say do dawn of souls for this run. but im gonna be nice .

Before watching, I'm gonna say "Wild Soul" then watch. Edit: Ok, didn't know holy worked. I tried Solo Black Magic only on DoS years ago and was blocked there.

Can you beat final fantasy VI using only slot?

Love these challenge and Overpowered videos but please change up your music a little, as good as FF9's soundtrack is it's not the only one with a God-tier OST and no matter how good a song is it's never a good idea to have it be the only one in the background for an entire video.

I hope the editor can eat..

"Can You Beat Final Fantasy 2 Using ONLY Magic" Its really not hard. Get warp as soon as possible, carries you til Teleport. Once you get Teleport GG.

😎👍👍

i have disease where if game lets you grind i will grind. so i never played ff2 because of the way you grind. i can see myself spending hours attacking myself to level up defence. no just no.

The real question is how OP can you get before you have to face the first 4 black Knights? 😜

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Sooooooo...... Why is it that you only have 120k subs? I've been watching your videos for...... A while, and sure, as a Christian there are more important things to do with my time, but as a gamer I think it's a travesty that you don't have more subs. Am I missing something? Cause I'm just gonna blame KZread. KZread! GET ON YOUR GAME AND FIX YOUR ALGORITHM! This guy DESERVES WWAAAYYYYYYY MORE SUBS. Keep having fun primalliquid. Jesus loves you. Be blessed.

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FF 2 was Cecil and Kain

@locke103

6 ай бұрын

Wrong. Try again, sailor.

Should have done this on the original FF2 on the Famicon, okay maybe emulated. Would have made ultimate pointless.

The real challenge was playing Final Fantasy II at all. Well done!

@liamarmstrong4333

7 ай бұрын

2 is a good game,

@Primalliquid92

7 ай бұрын

i actually like ff2

@polaris5554

7 ай бұрын

I love FF2. It’s one of my favorite out of the early games. It has its own special charm.

@Arkansym

7 ай бұрын

I go to replay FF2 on occasion because I think it's genuinely that good.

@rowanmorris2187

7 ай бұрын

I'd heard bad things about FF2 for years. Finally got around to playing it with the pixel remasters and other than the dungeon design I really enjoyed it.