With bugs? Yes. Speedrunners had beaten the OOT demo before the time limit runs out.

@NetBattler

Ай бұрын

@@mandrakeblake-tw1uv ?

@TheProblemChannel

Ай бұрын

Ah I was there for that video I couldn't believe my damn self

@CrazyDavePlants

Ай бұрын

i am grOOT

@100MagicChickens

Ай бұрын

yea the speedrun community for OOT is insane LOL

@isaacdillon630

Ай бұрын

I saw a video about it. It was so frickin complex that I was very lost lol

Thanks Nintendo for giving us 40 whole fucking seconds of F-Zero

oh the money those poor starving nintendo employees would lose if we were allowed to play more than 30 seconds of donkey kong

@MrLump

Ай бұрын

Think about their family’s starving. Little Jimmy licking up bread crumps because donkey Kong was too long. It should’ve been 15 seconds, IT SHOULDVE BEEN 15 SECONDS!!!!!

@cleciasilva8016

Ай бұрын

lol

@cleciasilva8016

Ай бұрын

​@@MrLumpno it should be 5 seconds

@PurpleIsSus1985

29 күн бұрын

@@cleciasilva8016 No it should be 1 second

29 күн бұрын

Just the intro.

In my opinion, the worst type of demos are the ones with time limits. I much prefer the ones that end at a certain point. Ones that allow you to play the demo as long as you want, but once you reach the point where you've made it to the end of the demo, then the demo will end.

@DeterminedBlade

Ай бұрын

Pokemon Ruby and sapphire demos are awesome because they never end. They always have a mission. Yeah, it loops the missions, but still you can just keep playing to no end.

@SeanWheeler100

Ай бұрын

Yeah, having that time limit while including the entire games are just a waste of space on the disc. No wonder Smash Ultimate doesn't have them.

@Sonictheoofhog4

Ай бұрын

The miitopia demo is the best example of this

@veghesther3204

Ай бұрын

Exactly but in the case of RPG Demo's I still HATE the ones that have a FIXED lv cap take the SD 3 remake (Trials of Mana demo) party members STOPPED gaining lvs in the Demo around lv 15 or so in a game where the MAX lv is still lv 99. As for Super Mario world the lowest levels cleared run as SHOWN in this video still normally takes me least 30 minutes to 1 hour.

@mr.curtis6730

Ай бұрын

This is why i hated 3ds/wii u demos, 30 plays and thats it, hell some games give you 5 uses and you cant open the game

This reveals that the ENTIRE ROMs of these games are loaded into Brawl, but Nintendo modified the emulators to have a timer that locks you out after 5 minutes (or some other time).

@trainman5675

Ай бұрын

Minus maybe the audio of starfox 64 past the first level (probably just wasn't transferred over)

@aquakun3869

Ай бұрын

nintendo: EMULATING IS ILLEGAL! also nintendo: haha ima put funny rom i got from sketchy interner website and put trial timer

@cravdraa

Ай бұрын

No, I think something else was happening there. otherwise sound effect, which were already in the game would still be playing. Also, the game doesn't cut off at the exact same point every time since you can do things to speed yourself up or slow yourself down, but the audio cuts out anyway? Something in the prpgram is likely purposely killing the game's audio, and I'm will to bet it's probably all there if you could figure out how to stop whatever mutes it.

@trainman5675

Ай бұрын

@cravdraa maybe...it could be the game doesn't trigger the sound to loop or load properly because your not meant to go that far. And it was later in development that starfox was added so the time limits were more set in stone

@aaronlane8276

Ай бұрын

It was probably easier to do it that way.

Who's bright idea was it to make demos last less than a minute?

@NetBattler

Ай бұрын

Whoever it is doesn't seem THAT bright

@DeterminedBlade

Ай бұрын

Saukari

@Atylonisus

Ай бұрын

Just your friendly neighborhood mega-corporation

@JoshuaThompson-ut4fb

Ай бұрын

Well they're demos, and demos barely have like 4 levels, but they are free

@AwesomeX

Ай бұрын

I blame Squidward

Someone did beat Ocarina of Time before the demo expires

@ShiningSilvally

Ай бұрын

Not surprised. ACE & SRM are insane.

lol imagine if it had a demo of mother 3 and this was the only English version

@chamtheman551

Ай бұрын

That would be traumatizing Yet the chance of that evening happening in the first place would be insane

@sombramistica

29 күн бұрын

Lmao

@arkanmachmudalfatih351

6 күн бұрын

Or maybe Earthbound Beginnings/Mother 1?

Any video on SSBB is a treasure to me, as I had and still have this game. Thank You for the nostalgia

@PokemonRebornFan

Ай бұрын

I too also have it

@St0rmGuy

Ай бұрын

Me too!

@user-ny2ku6yk2p

Ай бұрын

Mine uste to work 😢

@smt3

Ай бұрын

Same. Got my copy on Christmas 2015. Still have my copy to this very day

@Lo-Sir

20 күн бұрын

I still have it, sadly my version crashes on the credits I've had this same disc since I started playing Brawl, though since then I got a Wii U to replace my Wii but now for some reason the Subspace credits crash the game sucks because Sonic used to be my favourite character and Subspace is the easiest way to get him

So these games are in fact capable to be played in its entirety, but some either be scripted to not have the full audio like star fox. Could you imagine just how much money and more people would have bought brawl if they made the classic games unlockable in thier entirety? It make the game disk be worn out to its last layer if it was possible to play, save, and unlock everything in them. This would have made smash bros brawl the absolute KING of all wii games.

@asackboyplush6508

Ай бұрын

Then no one would buy those virtual console games

@off-the-grounder568

Ай бұрын

This is essentially what Animal Crossing for GameCube did.

@Shosholegbt

Ай бұрын

@@off-the-grounder568there was only old NES game and they were not all released No Zelda released officially no Mario bros or donkey Kong ?

@Idkauserlol

Ай бұрын

and it'd be closer to the discussion of best smash bros game too if it didn't have the fucking SLIPPING

@gurvmlk

Ай бұрын

@@off-the-grounder568 The difference though was that Animal Crossing included games that were no longer earning Nintendo profits at the time of its release. Whereas the demos in Brawl were designed to convince you to go buy the games on the Wii Shop Channel.

The fact that the audio in Star Fox 64 went away makes me think that there should be a no audio% run category of the game

Finally, someone is gonna answer my childhood question

I remember playing Kirby’s Adventure so much to the point where my game would sometimes crash at the “trial ended” screen 😂

@BinglesP

Ай бұрын

Game went up and said "How many times do I have to tell you?! The demo's DONE! Stop playing the same thing over and over again! This is an advertisement, not a challenge!"

I thought thus was going to be about people speedrunning to see which are possible to beat

Didn't knew the Demos were still playable after the time limit! Kinda wish they never implemented the time limit in these masterpieces at this point

@SeanWheeler100

Ай бұрын

There is something called modding. Of course, someone who could mod a game can cheat and remove stuff like a time limit.

@michelepapagni6011

Ай бұрын

@@SeanWheeler100 yeah, but unfortunely I'm no modder so Idk how to mod

@MrKevinritsema

Ай бұрын

You'll need GeckoOS. For NTSC Brawl: Code: Disable Time Limit On VC Games (brkirch, Only Works With Rebooter on GeckoOS) 2001A960 41820028 0401A960 48000028 200107B5 4182000C 040107B4 4800000C 20057215 41800028 04057214 48000028 2001C099 41820028 0401C098 48000028 2001C4C9 41820028 0401C4C8 48000028 2001C4E5 41820028 0401C4E4 48000028 2001C74D 41820028 0401C74C 48000028 E0000000 80008000 To see the code in action, watch kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZJhl0NNtiZnJpMY.html

@mr.curtis6730

Ай бұрын

@@michelepapagni6011 the wii is one of if not one if not the easiet console to mod so its perfect for a beginer, all you need is a pc and either a usb or sd card,

@michelepapagni6011

Ай бұрын

@@mr.curtis6730 mmmm maybe that should work. Iirc I have Homebrew in my Wii so that could also be a good start

The Japanese version has a Fire Emblem and I think Mother demos

@Shosholegbt

Ай бұрын

Correct.

@marufranco5281

Ай бұрын

Are they 5 minutes? Because that would have been criminal for RPGs, for these its way smarter to have a 1 hour limit , if someone is invested 1 hour in an RPG they might aswell pay for the virtual console.

@Alex-95-Gaming

Ай бұрын

@@marufranco5281 Slight correction, Japan has Mother 2, not Mother, though all versions of Smash Wii U have Earthbound. Mother 2 can be played for 300 seconds (5 minutes) and Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem can be played for 180 seconds (3 minutes). Japanese Smash Wii U also has Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon, which can be played for 240 seconds (4 minutes).

0:28 the man just standing there in the demo game over... He's the true final boss

Yeah, the roms are tiny and it's just easier to include them fully with a timer than to alter them so it's only part of the game. Sonic Gems Collection on the GameCube also did this with the "demos" of the other Sonic games. I remember using Action Replay to remove the timer.

Ай бұрын

Game dev:No no! Is one minute no more time! How peoples wanna buy my retro game compilation? Player:Hold my Action Replay!

@inesnobre2703

20 күн бұрын

Nintendo is gonna be knocking on your door in a mario costume saying "three days until-a mario steals your liver, wahoo!"

@_abarofsoap_

16 күн бұрын

If action, then only replay! 🔥

Fun fact: the OOT demo has been beaten without the use of cheat codes like the ones used in this video

I'm impressed that they put the entier games, instead of letting it crash if you reach a certain point (that you still shouldn't be able to reach normally) like in the Sonic Frontiers demo

@mrclean7473

11 күн бұрын

its actually easier to just put in the full games than alter them, the file sizes are tiny

@mrclean7473

11 күн бұрын

like a png file of a picture of super mario bros is bigger than the actual game

@vittosphonecollection57289

10 күн бұрын

@@mrclean7473 How?

@vittosphonecollection57289

10 күн бұрын

@@mrclean7473 Yeah probably bigger than the NES games and maybe World but 64 onwards the game is bigger. Plus this is super smash bros, a heavy game. This one does take a lot of space

@mrclean7473

10 күн бұрын

@@vittosphonecollection57289 yeah im solely talking about nes, the games are merely hundreds of kilobytes big

and these demos ae what inspired me into speedrunning

13:57 I saw that Small Marios hand clipped through the brick

7:36 I thought the audio was copyrighted. But man, it feels like playing Mario Galaxy without listening to the music!

Woah, 800K subs! Thanks for the awesome content hopefully you'll get 1M

Finally, Luigi is playable in brawl.

The fact you can increase play time with cheats probably explains why they were removed from ultimate

@BinglesP

Ай бұрын

Also probably has something to do with the fact that the Switch doesn't really have a unified Virtual Console, only a subscription

@littlemacisunderrated412

Ай бұрын

@@BinglesP that subscription has never made sense to me

@toumabyakuya

Ай бұрын

@@littlemacisunderrated412 It does to me, money is needed to keep the servers running, if there was no subscription then the servers would last as long as Nintendo cares to keep them up, but with a subscription they can last longer because we are the ones paying to keep them up.

@ElectTheMusic

27 күн бұрын

​@@toumabyakuyayou acting like Nintendo servers aren't absolute garbage

@toumabyakuya

27 күн бұрын

@@ElectTheMusic That's heavily subjective.

your video are so good bro .thanks for your video 😍

They put the entire games in brawl. Damn the value that brawl would have if you can remove the timer. Thats 7 games in one package

It does suck that Star Fox 64 loses all of its audio, and character animations in the text boxes, but at least all 12 of Brawl's Masterpieces can beaten via cheating! Hope to see you do a follow-up video using cheats to try, and beat all of Smash Wii U's Masterpieces in the future too! Excellent video once again, NU! 😄

I had a modded wii so i used Gecko codes all the time to play the full games lol

Do the same for Super Smash Bros. for Wii U.

@Shosholegbt

Ай бұрын

There are no demo there wtf

@CalebExists101

Ай бұрын

​@@ShosholegbtYeah there is wdym

@mr.curtis6730

Ай бұрын

​@@Shosholegbtthere are demos in the wii u version but most games are the same or have longer time limits than brawl

@tommyjohnson9875

Ай бұрын

@@mr.curtis6730I have a Wii U and don’t have those

Imagine, you have thirty seconds to play 75m in the demo, and you get stopped by that stupid fireball for half of it.

my theory this was their original way of teasing VC games

@mrclean7473

11 күн бұрын

they were out long before

I was hoping this video would attempt to beat the games with glitches and bugs within the constraints of the time limit like the OoT demo

Nice video,can you do one like this for smash bros for wii u, pls ?

i love the just cause 2 demo glitch, allows u to get infinite time and just explore

smash bros on the wii, the best hacking tool that nintendo never wanted... a great game in its own right and it makes sense that for at least the nes and snes roms to be fully on there as the file sizes are not even at max 4mb in size unless you add the emulation files for it. as for the n64 roms that is prolly the emulator they used to bug out for star fox... but for the full roms to be on there is quite the gem, now if more games would have not so much demo options but more fun games like this was... especially with how the big n has been trying not only so hard but like 3 times as hard to make it so we cant play these classic games ever again

@six_buck_dlc

Ай бұрын

really reminds me of how rovio scrapped their older games for no reason

Cool

Nice demo games in Super Smash Bros. Brawl.

I've played Brawl for YEARS and had no idea this existed

You know, I was thinking the same thing too!

As a person who was obsessed with pac man on the wii I went through every stage of grief when the time expires before I beat my high score

Back in my day, I would learn tips and tricks for smash wii u’s demos to be able to extend the amount of each game I learnt that by quickly exiting the race, you could play most of the f-zero maps

I can see niftski trying to beat the mario bros one within the time limit

Please note that if you want to play star fox 64 on super smash brothers brawl it's best to skip the intro because watching the intro results in the game ending then and there

This reminds me of Sonic Gems Collection's Demo Games Where you need to beat the final stage

If you save the game before time runs out in the OOT demo, does it keep the progress so when you load it the next time you can pick up where you left off?

@Shosholegbt

Ай бұрын

No and playing every 5 min would be impossible

We will give you a 60 second demo to play these games! Me: “that ain’t no problem!” Beats the game within the time limit

Can you beat the demos in Smash 4 Wii U? I want to see if it's possible (My smash 4 disc ain't working)

I just realized the mario jump sound gets lower in pitch when you are bigger

The fact that you able to beat super mario world is impressive

@me2-684

14 күн бұрын

Actually its not that hard. I once 100% smw for SNES (original hardware)

At the prices the Virtual Console was selling these games, this group of 12 games would have been $79 on the Wii eShop.

The brawl masterpiece app demos becomes full games after removing the time limit, how ironic, Star Fox may be buggy with the audio but other than that they’re all full games

7:35 lol i thought my headphones reset or something

Yes, whit The glorius bugs, thats the speedrun Glitch%!!

this means that smash bros brawl can also be considered a nintendo best hits collection with a fighting game as a bonus.

Yeah, it works!

I have a problem and it is that when I want to play those classic demos the screen appears black or they tell me something about priiloader, could someone help me with that please?

You should try this but on SSB Wii U, which also had demos

SMW is def one of my favorite Mario games i've played, i like the OST, the SFX, well you get it, i like everything, i had like a month to play the few games the SNES had to offer, i was interested specifically into that one, and i dont regret every single second that i was in the game, while i did not complete every level because of the key holes, i still managed to fight against Bowser, it was nighttime, my parents and i were present, my mother or my father would "help" me in certain levels (i say help between quitation marks because [i dont like bragging about this] i was the one who could beat games myself without little to no help), but this time, i was the center of attention, the king of Koopas and i, it was somewhat difficult, however i started to learn its attack pattern, once i knew where and when to throw the Mecha Koopas, it became easy, and thats how i defeated Bowser, it was fun, the colors were beautiful.

that is my boy😉

People don't understand marketing. At the time, these demos were not only made to showcase the games and characters but to promote buying the game from the wii shop where all of these games were available. What's the point of that if he DEMOS were free to play?

@therealsploge

24 күн бұрын

Yeah it’s like people forget this game came out 2008!

@goncaloduarte4683

24 күн бұрын

People are not complaining that these are demos with restrictions, they are complaining about the super restrictive time limit that isn't even enough to get a feel for the game.

@gameboyadvancedsp6727

23 күн бұрын

​@@goncaloduarte4683💯

@secrethaydenshh

21 күн бұрын

Donkey Kong was already 28 years old in 2008…

I wonder if the audio is missing from Star Fox 64 because the compressed voice files took up a large amount of space on the original game. They never intended you to play past a certain point so they probably removed it to save space. The other games are small enough to not need any changes.

I honestly wish they did not take this out in Ultimate.

@crazycanyon3028

Ай бұрын

Honestly what’s the point Most of the games they would include where just bundled in with the basic online subscription meaning the only ones that even held the tiniest bit of worth where the n64 ones and at that point why even include it with how little they had included in the past Plus with all the 3rd party content and the other factors like roster size there would be no point because like I said most people would allready have access to most of them I don’t know it’s weird they took them out but I’m not surprised not like we’re missing out on much anyways

@citrusplantsam1996

Ай бұрын

@@crazycanyon3028 Yeah, that’s true.

@TheCoolChocolate_Official

Ай бұрын

It’s probably for this exact reason, hackers can just remove the time limit

Those demos were so short it felt like a joke. But is understandable it's the full games since it's just emulators and roms.

The entire ROMs of the games are in there.

I really miss brawl it's my first smash game 😢

Well, brawl is still the ultimate smash experience. If only the demos had just an ending point instead of a stupid time limit.

Makes sense now, it's just roms and emulators with an artificial limit. :)

I wonder what the Smash 4 Masterpieces are like

best demo was tony hawk pro skater for ps1 that was given out at pizza hut - could only play the 1st level, but we played it over and over and over - it gave my generation just enough to whet our appetite for more - loads of people ended up buying the full version - that was very good marketing

you may be able to ACE on smw to warp to credits, if that counts

Since you can get ACE in OoT and SMW, yeah you could definitely beat all of them.

It's ridiculous why Nintendo put time limit for these demo ...

@chiragjebar4030

Ай бұрын

Nintendo wants us to buy those games from Wii shop after playing those time trial

@NetBattler

Ай бұрын

​@@chiragjebar4030that is pointless because these are old games,not to mention pirates have already pirated these games illegally.

@chiragjebar4030

Ай бұрын

@@NetBattler I don't know emulation was exist in Wii era or not

@NathanWiedbusch

Ай бұрын

hmmm?

@NathanWiedbusch

Ай бұрын

hmmm?

Why Is there no audio on the Star fox 64 part?

@supereli1121

Ай бұрын

Because the game glitched out because it wasn’t intended to play for longer than the set time limit, so the audio glitched out.

I didn't know about the warp zone in Super Mario Bros 4-2 😮

I really wish this channel had a VO so we could just listen while we work, instead of having to keep looking at the screen.

Semi-unrelated but does anyone here remember Smashtasm?

Nintendo made the time limit because they think you're supposed to play Super Smash Bros Brawl. And they think the demos are a distraction to the fight

@nerd-nightshift3883

27 күн бұрын

and to get you to buy em off the wii shop. There a rich gaming company, they gotta nickel and dime you when ever possible.

The F-Zero demo always bugged me. I always wanted that series to get more spotlight, and its demo is barley long enough to finish one lap.

You could always try and do a credits warp with Super Mario World.

all the games on the demo were all wii shop games later on. they were probably just trying to see if the switch could emulate the games correctly.

That's actually kind of infuriating

TL;DW they’re all playable normally

I never new there were demos on brawl lmao

@Treyshellz

27 күн бұрын

I just learned about this today as well

As cool as Masterpieces were, would it have been that hard to code an emulator to detect when you've beaten a level of a game?

Part 2? Adding those games that are only in the Japanese version of Brawl.

They did us dirty with this. The way this should have worked: Unlocking 100% completion in various areas of the game with characters from a given series should unlock the a fully playable game from that series, not a demo. 100% completion of Brawl as a whole should grant the right of a full version of the game of every single previous game tied to every single character on the roster.

@jermseventy8341

29 күн бұрын

How about no?

@MewtwoStruckBack

28 күн бұрын

@@jermseventy8341 Why not? All games from all old consoles should be available for free by now anyway.

@chaosenforcerdhm969

28 күн бұрын

That is a very good way to lose money as why buy the virtual console version when you can get it free o. Brawl

"smb normally has time onlyfor the first two levels" any smb speedrunner : "are you sure about that ?"

I know now as an adult, these were mostly meant to advertise the wii shop’s virtual console titles. But I remember thinking how stupid the title was when I was like 8 playing this

Why wouldnt they have just released demos of virtual console games in the Wii Shop Channel as I am pretty sure this was a way to get you to try out the game before buying in hopes you would eventually buy the virtual console games on the Wii Shop channel.

It pretty logique to be able to finish most of them cause why first of all try to cut the game it doesn't change and seconds if for some reason is able to reach out like this the game will try to read code that he doesn't have and it can be dangerous for the wii

There's actually more I believe, in the Japanese version, I remember hearing there was earthbound

So they put the time limit there for the reason to buy the games on the Wii Shop

They could have just included the full game.

@MauFangs

23 күн бұрын

The full games are there, if you remove the time limit you can play them completely

Brawl demo's always pissed me off because of their time limits

it was special video

I mean... Wouldn't it be a banger to get these games for free and the demos from the shop? If they can't do that for Ocarina of Time and the other because it would be so much. Why not for the NES/GB games at least?

@toumabyakuya

Ай бұрын

Because that would meant Nintendo would be losing a lot of money.

Why can't you play these Nintendo games for more than freaking 2 minutes

i always vondrerd why a 40 secdond demo ????