That's the dumbest thing that could happen.

@kemisoofentse3944

3 жыл бұрын

Broo!! 😪

@fisstudies320

2 жыл бұрын

@Wajdi Edross, I completely agree with you.

NAH WE DONT NEED TO SEPERATE WE JUST NEED TO UNITE TO KICK OUT THE ANC

@melon9680

3 жыл бұрын

But that's the thing, through racial propaganda and BEE they keep the people divided and fighting eachother. As any government out there fears when their own people unite against them, and the ANC especially doesn't like to lose control and will play dirty and bend the law as they see fit to stay in power.

@JK-gu3tl

3 жыл бұрын

And replace them with the red hats? OOf.....

@serioustalkwithbhudax

3 жыл бұрын

True.

@serioustalkwithbhudax

3 жыл бұрын

@@melon9680 You just miss apartheid and never too time to understand the impact of the policies. That's your problem.

@serioustalkwithbhudax

3 жыл бұрын

@@JK-gu3tl Let's be frank the party gunning for the separation of Western Cape is created in accordance with the dissatisfaction of black majority rule not about the sincere unification of the people.

For what it's worth I think the issue here is a financial one, caused by poor governance, greed, and corruption. If it is true that the Western Cape contributes R 185 billion in taxes and is only allocated 25% of that back in order to run the province then we have really lost before we've even started. The problem is probably the same in the other provinces. Nothing will change until the politics change. As well as the DA has done in running the Western Cape they will always be hamstrung financially. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results.

@donaldgray2128

2 жыл бұрын

The rest of the county goes to crap under BEE rule

@lehlohonolocuefer2771

Жыл бұрын

Have you, in your capacity, made an attempt to educate people on how taxes fund government programmes? The majority of ANC supporters, especially in the rural areas don't know. They think that the money comes from the pockets of the ANC. Also, market the party you want to win come 2024. The EFF is gaining on the DA because it's visible on the ground. It goes to the small towns and villages that the DA and other non-white parties do/will not. People are tired of the ANC and will take just about anything that will position itself as the opposition. Have the DA (the most palatable "non-black" party) make itself known in NC, EC, NW and FS

@mogamatyusufmartin9171

Жыл бұрын

Well said Mr Connolly that's where it lies as Mr Connolly just stated

@mogamatyusufmartin9171

Жыл бұрын

@@motionenergy808 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿

@shimza0027

Жыл бұрын

​@@donaldgray2128 Well said,though I'm not in favor of Cape Independence,I mean just imagine explicitly looking for black managers for a business during hiring and avoid white applicants then call it transformation, so much for democracy.

Funny how the Khoi, I mean the real Khoi are left out. I mean their language is not even inlcuded in this country but Sign Languge is recognized. I dont undermine sign language I am merely saying how Bad this is for our people to not recognize the first descendants

@vanessawebb1754

3 жыл бұрын

It's terrible. What's more appalling is people say nothing about this.

@RastaAfricanGentleman

3 жыл бұрын

@@vanessawebb1754 the worst part is their descendants want credit and power and are too leaving out the Khoi. We need this to be tabled in parliament

@YahshralaWitness

3 жыл бұрын

Khoikhoi needs to have their own academics to write their own indigenous language, with regards to Khoikhoi being left haven’t you seen your tribal chief being recognised by the government like other tribal leaders?

@RastaAfricanGentleman

3 жыл бұрын

@@YahshralaWitness true, they have been doing it by its a small scale thing. Anyways can you explain the tribal chief story?

@RastaAfricanGentleman

3 жыл бұрын

@Joe Moer rubbish is you not knowing who we are talking about.

Western Cape, please take the Northern Cape with you, we have minerals to help build a strong economy

@BantuEducation

3 жыл бұрын

@Armo Moose I suspect most of those cANCer voters are in Kimberly, so let them keep it. It doesn't belong in the Cape - geographically it is OFS.

@quadroblox4872

3 жыл бұрын

Can I ask a question why would u hop on a sinking ship like that

@damianpulsar1991

3 жыл бұрын

The NCape is welcome however south africa has 8 provinces (NCape residents included) consistently supporting policies and a direction that the people in the Cape do not support. We can't force NCape people to join when they don't want to. It is up to you to talk to and convince others of the benefits and potential benefits.(This is how we've been doing it: from the ground up and talking to others, spreading the message etc.) The Cape wants a divorce due to irreconcilable differences e.g ideological

@robkading5274

3 жыл бұрын

@@quadroblox4872 Why stay on a sinking ship?

@robkading5274

3 жыл бұрын

@@amohelangmashego1053 Actually there are only 14% whites in the WC. The movement to secede is supported by the people of the Western Cape - nothing to do with race, but about economic survival.

This is literally the most stupid idea I have ever heard... It's just pathetic

@ayandandlovu1292

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah it doesn't any of us good. Just creates more unnecessary problems

@fisstudies320

2 жыл бұрын

@GET THE TAGG Channel, I agree with you. You would think that spoiled teenagers came up with this idea.

With sound governance an independent Western Cape within 3-5 years would have a GDP higher than Joburg.

@robertking7506

3 жыл бұрын

If we're smart, within a few decades we could be one of the wealthiest nations on Earth. Singapore used to be one of the poorest, now they are arguably the richest - and they have the same population living on a territory a tiny fraction of the size of the Cape.

@africanandproud6792

3 жыл бұрын

Nonsese! Cape Town and South Africa are nothing without Gauteng. But Gauteng would be the richest country in Africa without the rest of you guys. You are all a burden to us. Every major company is headquartered in Johannesburg, even the stock exchange. You'd have to survive on fishing as Cape Town.

@3freeet948

3 жыл бұрын

@@africanandproud6792 False. Though, that would be true if the WC wasn't one of the only two net income producing provinces out of the nine. So..then how exactly are we a burden to you? when we (like Gauteng) are subsidizing the rest of South Africa?

@tfmkhonza5084

3 жыл бұрын

Why Orange blue and white flag? 🤔🤔🤔

@NN-id8bk

3 жыл бұрын

@@africanandproud6792 lol true

I am for a Independent Western Cape...

@IQ-jm6om

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed,we're better on our own,doesn't sound like a bad idea

@amohelangmashego1053

3 жыл бұрын

We? Meaning White people? Huh?! Colored and Black dominated places in WC are neglected by DA (just racist) nxxx

@reubenchristensen2352

3 жыл бұрын

@@amohelangmashego1053 Are you dumb didn't you watch the video we means the people who want to do it off any race!!!

@OmniAtlantic

3 жыл бұрын

The DA is just a arm of the ANC.

@gonzo-grim8674

3 жыл бұрын

@@amohelangmashego1053hey buddy didn't you watch the video the DA are in opposition to Cape independence...

The Western Cape and the western half of Northern Cape Province historically and culturally belong together. These regions should become a joint independent republic. The rest of South Africa and the ANC government treat us with disdain and like outcasts already. I fully support an independent Cape Republic, perhaps called Capricornia.

@Sky-dv8mj

2 жыл бұрын

Who are u??

@gidi3250

Жыл бұрын

If we ever get independence we most definitely wouldn't pick that name, most likely they'll slap on the name of Cape something.

@la23s.a.22

Жыл бұрын

I would include Eastern Cape despite being coloured . I also have family in Gauteng and Kwazulu-Natal.

@gidi3250

Жыл бұрын

@@la23s.a.22 in most of the official documentation on people wanting the cape to be independent they state that they wish for the cape to go back to the behemoth of a province it was back before it was split up in the 1990's so basically all parts of the Cape Colony back to together almost half of the country.

@la23s.a.22

Жыл бұрын

@@gidi3250 The rest of the country would lose 93% of coastline , they really need us.

Why do the naysayers always have the dumbest arguments?

@desocrate

3 жыл бұрын

They will hang on to any chance to derail the movement and when you disprove their arguments, they shift the goalpost.

@BantuEducation

3 жыл бұрын

One word - FEAR..!

@lehlohonolomapitsi8607

3 жыл бұрын

The biggest mistake Africa ever did was to allow white people into this continent. White people if you are so unhappy about living with black people go black to Europe.

@lehlohonolomapitsi8607

3 жыл бұрын

This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

@marcdevilliers2182

3 жыл бұрын

@@lehlohonolomapitsi8607 why is there always someone who tries to turn this into a race thing? Number 1, there's nothing difficult to understand regarding people of all races, currently living in the Western Cape, wanting a better life for themselves. Number 2, whites make up approx 17% of the population in the WC. If this truly was a race thing, or in your mind white people being unhappy, it would stand no chance. Why would "we" (white people), waste our time doing something that's futile? If it was a white thing, then you're quite right, we'd just go back to Europe instead. It's obviously not.

Can you people give South Africa peace just for one day, but be assured that will never happen, western cape belongs to all South Africans. Even a person who lives in Musinga.

@midnightflight8594

3 жыл бұрын

Well said

@brmaila6

3 жыл бұрын

@Christopher Walker , everyone is fed up with ANC, it will lose power gradually, Gauteng will become the next Province after Western Cape to be led by another Party, not ANC. Now , it's time for change.

@roybean7166

3 жыл бұрын

It's a stupid, crazy idea. As Fadiel Adams, a proponent of this idea, says, it won't be bloodless. It will lead to civil war, which no one wins. And there goes your pension as well, which you have been contributing to for yrs. This is a dangerous idea, which people do not understand. I have seen quite a lot of this on internet vids, it is very much led by people who were in the old Conservative Party. Verkramptes. The Mulder brothers, Connies sons.

@vusivusi9435

3 жыл бұрын

@Christopher Walker try to erase our history as a country that shit will never happen unless u want war u nazi and your European friends thy tried to do it in Ukraine but thy failed thanks to the greatest leaders Mr Vladimir puting keep uniting Russia frm this Barrick nazi so called west

@ashsol2657

3 жыл бұрын

@@vusivusi9435 now you are just talking nonsense. No one can respond to nonsense.

Not in a million years.

@brianmuvuti2102

3 жыл бұрын

@@techno.science add 5 zeros after 10. And still it will not happen. Dream on MINORITIES!!!

@brianmuvuti2102

3 жыл бұрын

@@techno.science Those are different circumstances. Gorbachev sold his country for some US silver. The ANC govt will massacre the whole lot of you before that happens. Same as what the CCP did at Tianemin Square back in 1989.

@brianmuvuti2102

3 жыл бұрын

@@techno.science One the world is different from 25 years ago. The Western block is a whole less powerful. With China and the eastern block in the mix western sanctions mean almost zero. Mugabe was under sanctions for 18 years plus, did he give a toss? Besides with a population of 53 million and only 1.5 million in one corner of the country clamering for independence. The rest of the progressive world will agree with ANC actions. 1.5 mill cannot hold the rest of the country at ransom. The world will agree, especially China and Russia. And guess what, they hold veto power at the UN.

@brianmuvuti2102

3 жыл бұрын

@@techno.science And be out numbered 40 to 1 by the rest of the country. Suicidal mission. Its like Texas declaration of independence in USA. Fat chance of any central govt allowing that to happen. Quick grave for all you whiners.

@brianmuvuti2102

3 жыл бұрын

@@techno.science We as the majority will not accept the creation of a bandustan 2.0 . Like Mandela said never never and never again...

ANC😭😭😭WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO YOUR PEOPLE 😂

@esterveldman4983

3 жыл бұрын

They steal a lot ,

@yayaacombi6224

3 жыл бұрын

Which people u talking abt?

@esterveldman4983

3 жыл бұрын

@@yayaacombi6224 the Anc and EFF voters

@esterveldman4983

3 жыл бұрын

@@yayaacombi6224 and i am talking about the gvt thiefs

@yayaacombi6224

3 жыл бұрын

@@esterveldman4983 n wats so wonderful abt voting DA?

Independence for western cape👑

@sam3407

2 жыл бұрын

Will never happen

@antonioarineshito2892

2 жыл бұрын

Ha, keep on dreaming!!!

As much as things are bad in SA civil war would be the worst thing ever and those at the forefront of this movement will flee to other countries

@robkading5274

3 жыл бұрын

That’s how the ANC did it?

@kamvazenani4153

3 жыл бұрын

@@robkading5274 so we should go back to fighting. In my family we lost loved ones war to us was real and we don't want to go there again.

@robkading5274

3 жыл бұрын

@@kamvazenani4153 My condolences - I did not for a minute suggest we must go to war. I'm suggesting that a peaceful change is better, even if it means that 'those at the forefront of the movement' as you put it will advocate for change whilst temporarily outside the borders.

@serioustalkwithbhudax

3 жыл бұрын

@@robkading5274 That will not happen have you guys have not had enough dividing Africa and the people of South Africa?

@robkading5274

2 жыл бұрын

@@serioustalkwithbhudax It is sad yes. We would far rather see the whole of SA prosper, but we just can’t see how to do that. The ANC’s policies have resulted in this beautiful country falling into disrepair. We believe we have a better solution (but the other provinces are too afraid to let us try). We can’t save SA, but we can save the Cape.

Cape Independence is a dream BUT it's an achievable one. I live in the Western Cape and I fully support Cape Independence. The ANC has destroyed South Africa with their corruption, racist policies dividing people and inability to govern. Their is NO political solution that is going to fix this issue because the people of the Cape reject ANC rule but those outside the Cape keep the ANC in power despite the trajectory the country is going. Why? It's really simple, they refuse to hold them to account and are actually okay with the current state of affairs so why cant the People of The Cape cut our ties, seek a better government which will give us 💯 control over our future? The Cape will secede and I prefer it's done peacefully but if the ANC and their supporters choose to prevent us, I'm prepared to defend our right to a free and Independent Cape

@virgilioblanco5374

2 жыл бұрын

Your position is hard to come terms!! You clearly are of those that think blacks don't deserve what God gave them. It has taken centuries, now the devil's goal seems closer than ever. A circle seems to want to close, a long road since Egypt.

@virgilioblanco5374

2 жыл бұрын

How bold-faced a thief can you be!!! The COLONIZERS came and imposed theirself upon people they weakened with psychological warfare, then you corrupted prominent "leaders", then you killed vociferous intelectuals, only because they fight against murderous intruders, ’ow you seek to divide some more. It's a pitty so many are greedy enough to betray their people even further, but, your day will come, and Africans will kick out all you devil workers.

@wallej2291

Жыл бұрын

Bull shit craziest things I've ever heard. If you don't want a black government it's just that simple pact your bags and go back to the Netherlands the UK Germany I can't believe it's that bad over there that you can't go back come on .

@NEMB213

Жыл бұрын

It will never happen. I'm prepared to pick arms and join the army to make sure that it doesn't happen.

@The3ushido

Жыл бұрын

@@NEMB213 Is our prosperity and wanting to have a better life and government that represents our values such a threat to you? - you are willing to use violence. That is exactly why we can't co-exist in a society that constantly hates us. Instead of threatening us, you need to open your eyes and see that your beloved ANC is selling you out but you are too blind or too ignorant to see. We don't have to be enemies but you will be throwing your life away to protect those ANC/EFF thugs. It's your funeral ☠

First fix the immediate issue of gangsterism and zero chances of upward mobility for the rest of the people in the low service economy jobs . ..

@robkading5274

3 жыл бұрын

We'd love to, but we're hamstrung by the National Government's policies.

@yayaacombi6224

3 жыл бұрын

@@robkading5274 excuses excuses DA governs Cape Town but doing shit for other people except the people with the colour of they skin. And now is looking for a place to grow racism bcz they miss apartheid. That will happen in the next life time wen we all die n God resurrect us.

@Freya1412

3 жыл бұрын

@@southfeller3399 the DA bitches and complains but don't really have solutions. So they aren't any better than the ANC. Let's be real here, the DA are illusion artist. They present a pretty picture of Cape town but hide the gang violence. People aren't blind to this, it's actually a joke that the DA thinks they did a thing better than the ANC. They just use trickery, deflection, and whining to fool naive people such as yourself into thinking they are god's gift to South Africa and the ruling government is to blame for everything. They can make things comfortable and pretty for some communities in Cape town, but what in god's name have they done about the violence plaguing the Cape flats? The ANC is prevented them from finding a solution? Or are they not interested because those folks aren't the right skin tone? Can you please explain how the DA is hindered by the government in this regard, yet white people in Cape town are thriving? Give an actual answer and not the default DA response " it's all the government's fault ."

@eti-om2gh

3 жыл бұрын

@@yayaacombi6224 wouldn’t it be better if the Eastern Cape hands over its budget to the Western Cape seeing the immense amount of 1st generation Eastern Capers that is currently settled in the Cape. Secondly , how do you accomodate people that arrive at their own free adult will unanounced and put down a shack in a bush somewhere and then demand housing and services on uninhabitable land? 3rdly. Doesn’t the people in the Eastern Cape have their own property or territory? Why do you want to demand a government house when you already have a house? Shouldn’t that be considered as theft or fraud? 4th. Dont you think it unjust that the people who built the Western Cape, payed their taxes (also to ensure the well-being of their next generation youth), for centuries and generations must get marginalised out of their own province and their kids being robbed of future which their parents built and also paid for with their taxes? 5. How would you respond if the situation was reversed and there was a mass migration of people into the Eastern Cape that started demanding, without having made any social, tax or economic investment into their problems. I guess they wont be welcomed with a cup of tea? 6. What baffles at times with this urbanization deal is how do you as an adult decide to just pack up and leave to want to live in squallor. Shouldn’t you secure a job first? 7. Manythat come from the Eastern Cape wants to have government to build them a house and then they return to EC and rent the house out packing it with multiple ‘backyarders’. What is honest about that? I’m not a political supporter, but somewhere, the Eastern Cape’s lack of political will to develop its province is being put on the doorstep of the Western Cape to solve. I dont think it is an apartheid or DA issue bro, its structural and systemic. Maybe to a lesser extent also due to a lack of maturity, being lied to or an overwhelming desperation to flee from a province that is hopelessly mismanaged or corrupt to the core

@yayaacombi6224

3 жыл бұрын

@@eti-om2gh western cape belong to every South African n they can live whr eva they want u speak as if it belongs to a certain group

In the Western Cape we are ready for progression, this current government is keeping us behind and outside investments away. We can't keep sending our kids abroad to seek better opportunities thus we have to start building from home. If the rest of the country is happy with a failing government and failing economy then they should not be opposed to us seeking something different and better. We in the Cape are ready to work. Free the Cape.

@antonioarineshito2892

2 жыл бұрын

pure stupidity, keep on dreaming

@la23s.a.22

Жыл бұрын

Cape Town is run by gangs , if we become independant , Cape Town should be excluded .

@sandroofficial8094

7 ай бұрын

As a Namibian,i have to applaud this action you guys are taking. People don't seem to want better lives for themselves. Imagine having to go abroad to look for better life opportunities when your land is full of riches and yet the ones in charge are selling it to the foreigners and leaving the citizens more empoverished as they make these nasty deals with these greedy ass foreign countries 😢

@ntetesemela9345

7 ай бұрын

As a Namibian? Are you not an African nevertheless? Encouraging evil deed in South Africa? Division just like in the past? You must be ashamed of yourself! Maybe your Namibia and its citizens are very very happy living in Heaven. Stop meddling, with negative please!🛐✌️🇿🇦

Say NO to drugs

This will never see the light of day Sorry to disappoint

@glenhuysamer

3 жыл бұрын

Once it was said that we would never get rid of the NATS and their Apartheid Ideology. And then it happened.

@Uzi-Bane

3 жыл бұрын

@@glenhuysamer the end of apartheid was inevitable sanctions ,international pressure ,country on the brink of civil war etc This is wayyy different ,WC is the 2nd largest GDP in the country ,the is no way SA will give it up ,just none !

@glenhuysamer

3 жыл бұрын

@@Uzi-Bane The exponential growth of people supporting this movement says something totally different. It appears that the jump to 800 000 in such a short time and the factor that numbers are increasing and an ever quickening pace........tells one that it is better to expect the unexpected. It is clear that the Union of South Africa was forced upon the citizens of Southern Africa by a colonial power which invaded numerous independent states and Kingdoms. The legitimacy of this is questionable at best, and seriously needs to be looked at. Such an invasion as in the situation happening in Namibia where the German Nation is paying reparation could very well be a factor to which Briton should also be held to account. The ANC and the continuation of divisive racial politics and ideology, supported by foreign governments and organization still does not make a Zulu, suddenly a Xhosa, or a Khoisan suddenly a Matabele etc...etc..... The centralization of powers on racial structure does not serve any person in South Africa except the few while enslaving numerous Kingdoms, Tribes and Nations......in a "black versus white" narrative. The succession debate and movement is clearly more than a departure from the Republic of South Africa and the 'Union" subscribed to it by a foreign invading power...... it is more about real freedom, and the unbinding of all the citizens of South Africa from a history of subjugation by one power over another.....decentralized government more in tune and in closer quarters to localized citizenry .......closer, smaller and more responsible government over smaller areas which are easier to control and answerable to its citizenry. The Rep. of South Africa designed at CODESA in which the 'code for South Africa' was prescribed over millions of people who were themselves never invited to any form of discussion .......(more foreign entities decided the fate of Southern Africa's citizens that South Africans citizens themselves) The experiment is tried and failed .... and South Africans are Trillions of Dollars poorer .....stolen by a parasitical government who for the most part seem to be servicing a string of international economic hitmen from various foreign organizations who are the major benefactors of South African resources both human and material. It would be more apt to say that the succession is already happening ..............for the mental emancipation which has begun....it is growing ...... while some would argue or ask............is one willing to die for this?............(sorry, but the was a Mandela ....line.....and look and see where it got us all) the question to be answered is ...........is one willing to live for this?.... because the price has already been paid.........in many more ways than dying.

@simpslayer7839

3 жыл бұрын

@@Uzi-Bane hope you aren’t a anc supporter hey. But you’ve got logical points

@yayaacombi6224

3 жыл бұрын

@@glenhuysamer Dream on madala it will never happen.We will never give u place to grow racism never 👎

Won’t work, they’ve gone the wrong route.

@melon9680

3 жыл бұрын

Hy if you have a better plan do share it with them.

@aghmatadams3368

3 жыл бұрын

What your plan then.

@fisstudies320

2 жыл бұрын

@Melon - yes I have a better plan. I will take over the country from the EFFANC. Please be patient.

@lehlohonolocuefer2771

Жыл бұрын

Have you, in your capacity, made an attempt to educate people on how taxes fund government programmes? The majority of ANC supporters, especially in the rural areas don't know. They think that the money comes from the pockets of the ANC. Also, market the party you want to win come 2024. The EFF is gaining on the DA because it's visible on the ground. It goes to the small towns and villages that the DA and other non-white parties do/will not. People are tired of the ANC and will take just about anything that will position itself as the opposition. Have the DA (the most palatable "non-black" party), Action SA or PA make themselves known in NC, EC, NW and FS

I support the idea of independence

Lol soon we will have many tiny little countries within South Africa like Lesotho.

And this how they divided Africa

@melon9680

3 жыл бұрын

Wrong, Africa has always been divided due to corrupt bigoted African governments who usually give in to power and money, like the ANC and EFF. Their radical ways is not how you go about making a country work let alone great. Remember they merely occupy a country, they never built one from the ground up like the Afrikaners did. So they have no clue how to go about governing. Besides, African people on the outside of South Africa do not share your beliefs of a United Africa and history also shows that African tribes all over fough against eachother for land and whatever els was considered valued. Try to self educate rather than listen to gossip or obvious propaganda from people like EFF. ANC included but more so EFF. Remember, much of the land to the South was uninhabited, thus the Boers settled there, some of the land in other directions were inhabited by Khoisan, before the Bantu chased them out and nearly killed them all. Education my friend, read books.

@sunchildofsirius2462

2 жыл бұрын

@@melon9680 africa was not uninhabited. many of the FIRST PEOPLE were BRUTALLY genocided for the invader's imperial imperitives. the FIRST PEOPLE would not succumb to their slavery. rewrite all your history you want , but the blood of yesterday are still on the imperialists's descendants' hands. not that it matters, but your ticket to earthly paradise here in the cape on the blood and bones of the WORLDS OLDEST people, well, you and all the others, no matter how long and hard you pray to your god, will never be expiated. you will never go to heaven. never. and if you are an atheist already, that explains your godless comment.

Why is all this campaign for a western cape, when you need to fix the inequality in south Africa first and foremost! I dont know what kind of president's south Africa gets, but so far none of them seem to want to fix the inequality in south Africa!

@MrMalimaali

3 жыл бұрын

It has nothing to do with the inequality or the number of poor poeple who are suffering in gang infested communities.this is race politics at its best its about control and about power. The manority is playing a game off chess this a long strategy where they see themselves in a place where they are a majority.

@freddiedouper

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrMalimaali if it's about control and power, then the control and power should start with the inequality of the whites who own 90% of the land . And the majority who only has 10% of the land! That needs to be addressed first and foremost. And stop trying to deflect with other issues that are insignificant! Get more equality of the land first and the rest will follow! And then you wouldn't have these gangs in all those rat infested places.

@hannescoetzee5113

3 жыл бұрын

Under the ANC there is no chance ever of equality. The government is hell bent on their boiling frog ideology which is now in practice

@yayaacombi6224

3 жыл бұрын

@@hannescoetzee5113 tht is y u want to divide the country so u can hv your apartheid

@damianpulsar1991

3 жыл бұрын

@@yayaacombi6224 apartheid? Jeez you guys never stop.

Let's go Independence for Western Cape yes!

@shimza0027

Жыл бұрын

Good luck on Ramaphosa signing the referendum,remember he's the one who decides, even if the United Nations recognizes Cape Independence, ANC government can still ignore the referendum,it's not the same as South West Africa which became Namibia after the United Nations helped it gain independence from South Africa due to the apartheid government which oppressed black people in South West Africa present day Namibia. But I get it,it's happening today the ANC government it's been racist towards white people but in a more subtle and indirect way, especially with the BEE and dischems moratorium on racial quotas,the ANC government has destroyed our country, it disappoints me to see people leaving especially people of a certain race.

As a Moroccan Im all for the independence of Orania and south capetown

@ugam04hotep

Жыл бұрын

As a Namibian i support western Sahara independence

@manueldumont3709

11 ай бұрын

​@@ugam04hotepAfrica's "independence"(from European colonization), is a Joke(when Africans are(literally)-Dying, to Get to Europe) . 🙄

@nonameguy3665

10 ай бұрын

I support western sahara for a country

@manueldumont3709

10 ай бұрын

@@nonameguy3665 Who do u Think, is(still)-SUPporting SA ? Certainly Not, the EFFing-ANCorrupt🤮🤮 . So before u Go-around, "supporting" those, who Can't-even SUPport-themSelves...Think(with ur Head...& Not ur 💩) . 🙄

@jacoguse1272

8 ай бұрын

i suport western cape independece but not racist orania

I'm so glad I live in the Western cape I love it over here

@o.ghanylo617

2 жыл бұрын

@Abisha Konono Where in Africa are you from?

@tshiamishogopane633

2 жыл бұрын

Abisha konono you not naitive lol

@tshiamishogopane633

2 жыл бұрын

@@o.ghanylo617 exactly made the same comment she isn't naitive. Infiltrator

@1920Lesedi

2 жыл бұрын

I wish I was you I realy dont like what is happening in SA my country Things are getting worse and theres no hope for future

@aspect3058

2 жыл бұрын

@@1920Lesedi sorry to hear about that

My family was one that left, but I never say I’m from SA, I say I’m from the Cape. I for one would love to return and reinvest my dollars in to a free WC. I think many expats would return once free’d from the ANC

@mensilak

3 жыл бұрын

who care?

@lucian5389

3 жыл бұрын

How did you guys manage to escape?

@punk46664

3 жыл бұрын

Once my ouma died, my parents sold everything for plane tickets to Australia, it was a very close call on me get a minors visa. But it was drop of a hat, once approved we only had 4 months to get here

@sipp5657

3 жыл бұрын

just wait until re-elections because ANC won't win again. I don't know who will win but it won't be ANC

@yayaacombi6224

2 жыл бұрын

@@sipp5657 won’t be DA or FFplus either 🤣🤣

I love the Idea of a free WC.

@fisstudies320

2 жыл бұрын

@Dominic Barbas - sadly that’s where the good news end. It will always remain just that - an idea. A bad one at that.

I think that if it will happen Western Cape will become the Switzerland of Africa

@cellb2619

3 жыл бұрын

we don't want Switzerland in Africa. if you want Switzerland, go to Europe.

@bvro9633

3 жыл бұрын

@@cellb2619 bro i was saying that it will become the richest nation in Africa as Switzerland in Europe without counting the microstates

@tiaelago-oretukaumunika7017

3 жыл бұрын

except surrounded by a huge country that will probably be hostile. My suggestion, take all the cape provinces and join Namibia😏 waddaya say?

@tiaelago-oretukaumunika7017

3 жыл бұрын

@@southfeller3399 yebo. and our home affairs queues are shorter too. and we have electricity all the time. just join us😌

@bvro9633

3 жыл бұрын

@@tiaelago-oretukaumunika7017 it will be a step back for South Africa

By the thousands streaming in and just claiming place to stay in WC.. This move should happen faster than we want it to.

@teeganwessels3752

2 жыл бұрын

This is honestly the biggest problem in the wc at the moment and instead of finding ways to prevent this the government caters to those who leave their homes in other provinces and steal land here

@sam3407

2 жыл бұрын

@@teeganwessels3752 you really have no moral authority to talk about anything as a descendant of settlers…

@matamba6774

2 жыл бұрын

Africa is for natives.

@neilnelson7603

2 жыл бұрын

@@matamba6774 Scream louder. My friend. This won't be acceptable in Europe, America, Canada, Australia or New Zealand. Learn from history.

@neilnelson7603

2 жыл бұрын

@@motionenergy808 Some people take Africans for a ride. Thats why they think its possible, not knowing this is the thing will unite Africans.

There Should Be A Referendum In Western Cape

@siyanomagqwathekane3581

2 жыл бұрын

Not in South Africa maybe in Nigeria

@fisstudies320

2 жыл бұрын

Olatunji Awofeso, it’s a South African matter which does not concern you. Rather focus on Nigerian matters which have forced you people to be unwelcomed guests in South Africa and throughout the world. You don’t see any South African crying to be in your country or interfering in Nigeria. It’s purely because we are truly not interested in anything that has to do with you people.

@dothadance1

2 жыл бұрын

Yesses the audacity

MAKE WC GREAT AGAIN

@lehlohonolocuefer2771

Жыл бұрын

Have you, in your capacity, made an attempt to educate people on how taxes fund government programmes? The majority of ANC supporters, especially in the rural areas don't know. They think that the money comes from the pockets of the ANC. Also, market the party you want to win come 2024. The EFF is gaining on the DA because it's visible on the ground. It goes to the small towns and villages that the DA and other non-white parties do/will not. People are tired of the ANC and will take just about anything that will position itself as the opposition. Have the DA (the most palatable "non-black" party), Action SA or PA make themselves known in NC, EC, NW and FS. Financial literacy is how you defeat ANC

This will maybe happen in 10000 years🤣🤣🤣

@jonezmontenegro3916

3 жыл бұрын

@@techno.science Never ever

@yayaacombi6224

3 жыл бұрын

It’s a beautiful dream for whites 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@kingabstract2695

3 жыл бұрын

@Hugo Sr2123 well it's not a secret coloureds like following their masters.. you forget the idea of an independent Cape is a White man's dream they have been wanting it for years.

@design_with_xoliswa

3 жыл бұрын

As in Never ever

@mantuli_ka1

3 жыл бұрын

They forget that Africa is the home of us Black people. Australia is waiting for them😜

Born and raised in the WC. my parents as well. All my grandparents as well. I'm proudly South African, but in the event the WC becomes an independent separate nation, my allegiance lies with the WC. As long as we stop this racist politics. There's also a lot of expense involved to get the country up and running. South Africa won't let go of certain things easily. We also need to build at least two more big cities. Cape Town won't be able to handle the strain. Another issue is that many people will flock to the WC when they hear it is now independent.

@Fernando-iy3fg

2 жыл бұрын

If this idea starts to get more and more momentum do you think the Northen Cape and the Western part of the Eastern Cape could join and make a Cape republic or do you think this is unlikely?

@melanchorly7618

2 жыл бұрын

@@Fernando-iy3fg Yo creo que no. Porque la mayoría de la gente en las otras provincias son ANC. Así que, me voy a decir no. Edit: sorry I'm presuming you're from a Spanish speaking country idk why.

@Fernando-iy3fg

2 жыл бұрын

​@@melanchorly7618 I am actually from but that's ok because I can understand enough of spanish And thanks for the answer

@Dinuzulu1879

Жыл бұрын

It will never happen keep dreaming 😅

@uekvowzkaebbzuvrgipqxhemmwbhe

Жыл бұрын

You were born in a WC? 😂

Funny how they would distort history and leave out Xhosa people from economic and political engagements. It's a racist move that will end in tears.

@jeromelubabalojacobs8872

3 жыл бұрын

@Armo Moose supremacist please. Xhosa people in Cape Town are subjected to shacks and squalor. Do not speak to me in inclusive terms when Xhosas are mere tools to get people elected to power and left to their dredged living.

We are here because of the treacherous ANC

U not realizing what Western Cape province depends on.... Gauteng !! Y'all depend on it what keeps so after alive and you want to start your own country... how foolish

@davethorstry6700

2 жыл бұрын

You do not realize that it a disgrace, people do not live and operate there by choice, it is by necessity. WC will be a haven for them. All companies will flood their virtually overnight..

@charlesscott4722

2 жыл бұрын

@@davethorstry6700 The same WC that is currently the murder capital of the world? Taxi violence, gang violence...

First kick out all the people the ANC brought here with promises of land

U guys are mad ....y'all are so selfish

@tsireledzopertunia4850

3 жыл бұрын

Same thing I was saying , it just don't make sense after all these years of unity and now this. This will bring conflicts and we don't know what rules they'll put after becoming independent and on whose interest. I am surprised on to why people are supporting this

@Brenda90210

3 жыл бұрын

@@tsireledzopertunia4850 same as the Biafra movement in Nigeria. People get tired of government corruption and looting as well as discrimination of a majority against all minorities.

Independence is highly... possibly.... mostlikely...the key to unlocking the wealth to Western Cape

@quadroblox4872

3 жыл бұрын

Lol I hv a question for you my bro. 1 when u guys have ur annual fires don't call us the eastern and the wetter part of the country. 2and- remind me where most of the food comes from again . 3rd goes with the first one but your yearly droughts mate ??

@robkading5274

3 жыл бұрын

@@quadroblox4872 For someone that’s not living in the Western Cape and don’t seem to have much hope for the Western Cape’s future, you seem adamant to avoid the people from the WC determining their own future? Why‘s that?

@quadroblox4872

3 жыл бұрын

Not really I justed don't want a civil war like every other country in africa.

@robkading5274

3 жыл бұрын

@@quadroblox4872 We’re in agreement and. Civil War is not an option and not necessarily. kzread.info/dash/bejne/faJqq5ODhavRnLg.html

@quadroblox4872

3 жыл бұрын

I'm actually glad to hear that but the government will most likely start ignoring you guys until you guys to do some illegal tasks that will allow them to not only detain a few hundred but also disband the group. Name one country that separated from another in peaceful terms.

Go for it the people of capetown n get rid of the cartel

@lehlohonolocuefer2771

Жыл бұрын

Have you, in your capacity, made an attempt to educate people on how taxes fund government programmes? The majority of ANC supporters, especially in the rural areas don't know. They think that the money comes from the pockets of the ANC. Also, market the party you want to win come 2024. The EFF is gaining on the DA because it's visible on the ground. It goes to the small towns and villages that the DA and other non-white parties do/will not. People are tired of the ANC and will take just about anything that will position itself as the opposition. Have the DA (the most palatable "non-black" party), Action SA or PA make themselves known in NC, EC, NW and FS. Financial literacy is how you defeat ANC

I honestly cant see this happening

@aghmatadams3368

3 жыл бұрын

It will happen. Wait and see.

@davethorstry6700

2 жыл бұрын

Guaranteed to happen and the Northern Cape will follow.

Western Cape already looks like a country world class holiday destination

@tfmkhonza5084

3 жыл бұрын

Division inside shame to those basteds sons of Dutchman.

@sindikhumalo9217

3 жыл бұрын

With so much racism????You just want to bring back apartheid and that will never happen.

@csmit4674

3 жыл бұрын

Yes split because the rest just want to brake down everything. Surely the white and brown poeple wants something to still stand from what they build through all the years before the ANC and eff brake it down

@mapoosesafaree3039

3 жыл бұрын

Your black racism is exactly the reason why Western Cape should succeed

@csmit4674

3 жыл бұрын

@@mapoosesafaree3039 👍🏼😄so you can begin braking down

Stop being negative and let us look forward to an independent Western Cape

@aghmatadams3368

3 жыл бұрын

I back you.

Don't do it. At least until I move here.

@lehlohonolocuefer2771

Жыл бұрын

Have you, in your capacity, made an attempt to educate people on how taxes fund government programmes? The majority of ANC supporters, especially in the rural areas don't know. They think that the money comes from the pockets of the ANC. Also, market the party you want to win come 2024. The EFF is gaining on the DA because it's visible on the ground. It goes to the small towns and villages that the DA and other non-white parties do/will not. People are tired of the ANC and will take just about anything that will position itself as the opposition. Have the DA (the most palatable "non-black" party), Action SA or PA make themselves known in NC, EC, NW and FS

It will never happen

@aghmatadams3368

3 жыл бұрын

Wait and see.

In your dreams guys, to see blackkid alulating for this is just craziness, open your eyes. Capetown is the heart of tourism in South Africa. Its the economy power house of the country. Africa for Africans

Push for Federation. This way, it's not just about The Cape but also the rest of the country.

I thought as much! I always knew that at some point(especially with the development that has happened in South Africa ever since the 2010 world cup),the western cape would want to separate itself from the the rest of South Africa.Remember the western cape is a white people's province(and which oh,by the way are united),so why not shouldn't they have their own province if the development is.Remember,we black South African are just enjoying the lie and the deception that we've been putting on to ourselves for a long time since Mandela died(which was 2013).All these VWs,Audi's,BMWs,public services,innovations,banks is all something that we blacks in South Africa are gonna have to face not very long from now.Either we continue living the deception on ourselves,or accept the truth.Either we submit,or continue lying to ourselves which won't last long enough.

@davethorstry6700

2 жыл бұрын

@Armo Moose Correct - deliberately bussed in by the anc pre 94 and after. The eastern Cape is empty.

@la23s.a.22

Жыл бұрын

​@Armo Moose population is nothing , whites have the vast majority of power and finance.

@calebhartslief2267

Жыл бұрын

@@motionenergy808 The people who were born and raised in the western cape will fight for their homeland, most likely to the death if need be. Also they consider the western cape more than just a "bargaining chip" and actually look after the land they live in. You speak as if you have any authority, much like the party you support, but in reality you are nothing and can do nothing.

@abdirahman8111

Жыл бұрын

@@motionenergy808 you came at the same time as the dutch it aint your land , you expanded south from congo

@patrickskosanajabu4412

Жыл бұрын

​@Abdirahman you embarrass yourself by flaunting your incompetence what crap is this or that's what your parents told you

I sincerely hope so

Bravo !!!! Western Cape.Go ahead.

I am a Coloured or Bushie from Johannesburg. I visited Western Cape 2 weeks ago. My Gosh, That place is beautiful and it way to clean. I honestly felt like I was in a different country. Gods Love To This idea.

@lehlohonolocuefer2771

Жыл бұрын

Have you, in your capacity, made an attempt to educate people on how taxes fund government programmes? The majority of ANC supporters, especially in the rural areas don't know. They think that the money comes from the pockets of the ANC. Also, market the party you want to win come 2024. The EFF is gaining on the DA because it's visible on the ground. It goes to the small towns and villages that the DA and other non-white parties do/will not. People are tired of the ANC and will take just about anything that will position itself as the opposition. Have the DA (the most palatable "non-black" party), Action SA or PA make themselves known in NC, EC, NW and FS

@ItsJustMeBroo

9 ай бұрын

Same bro i just wish i was born there instead of jhb💀💀

Monaco of South Africa. I was thinking the same thing!

@BantuEducation

3 жыл бұрын

Monaco is far too tiny. Slovenia or Estonia would be better comparisons.

@harisadu8998

3 жыл бұрын

Singapore rather than Monaco!

@darrenjantjies9027

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah agreed, Monaco in term of size doesn't compare to Western Cape. But the idea of it becoming a luxurious, High Income, possibly tax free, country independent to SA sounds like the direction they are heading in. Hopefully then we'll be able to host things like the F1 Grand Prix in Southern Africa again. Sure there are better example, just used that example coz he also used it in the video.

@harisadu8998

3 жыл бұрын

​@@darrenjantjies9027 Singapore is a better example. It broke away from a union with Malaysia because it had different voting patterns and demographics.

@roybean7166

3 жыл бұрын

You guys going to cause a civil war, and no one wins that. We all lose. And your pension , you been contributing all these yrs, that is gone. It will all collapse.

Let them do it.. SAs crime stats will drop by 70 % if cape Town is removed 😭😂

@davethorstry6700

2 жыл бұрын

Not with a real, proper police force, while the rest of SA will crumble and become a hell hole without the goose that laid the golden egg.

We need Southern Africa to become one country , to erase colonial splits.

@leaderx687

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly but the Europeans want to bring back Apartheid

In a country with a history like that of South Africa, a movement such as this, is perversely counter-intuitive.

@things2know699

3 жыл бұрын

we would rather loose a whole white race if needs be, but no one will devide our south africa, will take up arms if we have too

@ah1rooivalk

3 жыл бұрын

@@things2know699 Your comments are very encouraging. You must be a cape independence advocacy supporter.

First step is to change your timezone...western cape is 1 hour behind Johannesburg

@mapoosesafaree3039

3 жыл бұрын

WC timezone don't need to change to racist, corrupt Johannesburg timezone. WC timezone will change to Kingdom of Monaco timezone

@aghmatadams3368

3 жыл бұрын

The seasons differ too in the different provinces.

@fisstudies320

2 жыл бұрын

Clement Adesina, it’s a South African matter which has nothing to do wit you.

@clementadesina6327

2 жыл бұрын

@@fisstudies320 apparently you're very shallow in your studies ......

@fisstudies320

2 жыл бұрын

@Clement Adesina, apparently you can’t deal with the truth. It’s our country, deal with that and get lost! Your EFFANC is history and so will you 😹😹😹😹

If it does more good than harm. Best of luck guys!

@kamvazenani4153

3 жыл бұрын

How so Jodey because war will break out? Whe has war ever been good. Remember SA government will never allow the 3rd largest economy to secede.

@aghmatadams3368

3 жыл бұрын

I wish them too the best.

@cnachopchopnewsagency

Жыл бұрын

The leader whould be like white aparthied leader, they must be vicious to control the people. The Blacks are too nice. They must have military in all areas and totally control. Most of the one that push for independance is the whites.

This will be a success, it would be a Hotspot for travel and tourism.

@kabelomadileng7134

3 жыл бұрын

I don't think so, this separation will be seen as a form apartheid. This is because it will seen as separation along racial lines coloured/white Vs blacks. Secondly, some parts of the Western Cape have actual value (agricultural & tourism), therefore, lossing out on those resources would be a heavy blow to RSA that it can't afford to loss (might use force retain as much as possible). Thirdly, state resources like electricity supply, water supply and transportion would be disband if worst comes worst. Lastly, what is the Western Cape biggest trading partners, would it prosperous in the short/medium term (10-20 years) if it is not allowed to trade with RSA and blacklisted by China?. What sort of trade deals will it have with other countries with an economy less than half the size of RSA?

@lehlohonolomapitsi8607

3 жыл бұрын

🤣😂🤣😂

@lekakalame

3 жыл бұрын

@@techno.science Go & make an independent country in the EU.

@GB_mt

3 жыл бұрын

Devendra - I guess u are indian. Therefore not indigenous. Go and make an independent state in india and teach your people about contraceptives. Leave South African matters in the hands of the indigenous people.

@GB_mt

3 жыл бұрын

@@southfeller3399 really? Who can build the country the best? Dream on. It's about who the country belong to. The last time I checked, it belongs to the indigenous people. No indians qualify for that.

Absolutely love this!! The DA, ANC and EFF can keep the rest of SA.

@sam3407

2 жыл бұрын

Africans will never let this happen 🤣

@graemetm8109

2 жыл бұрын

@@sam3407 that's probably true, as this would end up being successful and yet again show how incompetent the ANC and EFF are because the rest of SA would crumble.

@sheilastuurman5375

2 жыл бұрын

Agree💯

@davethorstry6700

2 жыл бұрын

@@sam3407 They will try not to, but wont win as they are finished, washed up, looted the country dry.

@sam3407

2 жыл бұрын

@@davethorstry6700 when was the last time you felt a whitey had any sort of influence beyond economic? I mean, DA is trying, and they don’t want to secede because they see the futility in it in the long term… I’m certain for us Africans whichever way it goes it’s a win - win…

It could be the jewel of Africa.

@lehlohonolocuefer2771

Жыл бұрын

market the party you want to win come 2024. The EFF is gaining on the DA because it's visible on the ground. It goes to the small towns and villages that the DA and other non-white parties do/will not. People are tired of the ANC and will take just about anything that will position itself as the opposition. Have the DA (the most palatable "non-black" party), Action SA or PA make themselves known in NC, EC, NW and FS. Financial literacy is how you defeat ANC

What about gathering the whole province to its old self, Cape Province ie Northern Cape, Eastern Cape and Western Cape because it's a province of the same people from a very very long time. It was not supposed to be devided in the 1st place. It is a province of indigenous. Unite Cape Province.

@rioscordoba606

3 жыл бұрын

Would xhosa people go for that? On top of that it only unified for British interests and where are they now!! I'm okay with unifying, but then identity politics and socialism needs to piss off!!

@rainbowtrust6347

3 жыл бұрын

To tell the truth British and Boers played a big part in this a history of over 400yrs. How is that reversed, maybe that is the reason why it was decided to unite to a nation of rainbow and with all eleven languages made official. But about the province, I wasn't even suggesting, I was looking back from where these provinces come from. The E. Cape the N. Cape are very much linked W. Cape. Think about Khois , Xhosas, Khoisan ,SANs , and Coloureds. They moving around freely a number of centuries. .

@chaponate6805

2 жыл бұрын

@@rioscordoba606 indigenous people he said,what Xhosa got to do with that ? Xhosa people found us here...we don't care whethee xhosa people will go for it or not,this is our Land...Eastern Cape is the land of amaxhosa and even there we KhoiSan are indigenous to the area and our rock paintings proves that

Spain crushed Catalonia even though the majority wanted to secede from Spain, South African will rather grant the Cape a semiautonomous status, the fact that Ff+ is also involved in the secession question makes the whole programme questionable. And those who are pushing for the independence of the Cape will pack their bags and run overseas when the civil war broke up

@kamvazenani4153

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly those at the forefront of this will flee to other countries once war breaks out.

@serioustalkwithbhudax

3 жыл бұрын

True. The people with no financial capacity involved in this will regret it. One needs to be careful of what they get involved in. It is better to know history and have the basic understanding of where you come from plus what has been avoided.

@damianpulsar1991

3 жыл бұрын

Why does there have to be civil war?

@mphogodfatherka1dube103

3 жыл бұрын

@@damianpulsar1991 because there will never be a country whose prepared to lose its important territory in that manner I'm not going to go further just read about what happened in Spain, Catalonia wanted to secede from Spain they even conducted a referendum but they're leaders were purged and jailed by the Spanish government, south Sudan seceded from Sudan but with the price of hundreds of thousands of lives and over one million were displaced surely each every government will do everything to protect its territory

@damianpulsar1991

3 жыл бұрын

@@mphogodfatherka1dube103 the history here quite different than Spain. War is not a necessity. On what basis do they claim the terrority?

This is a good idea!

I never thought I'd say this but the ANC is an even BIGGER threat to SA than I thought 😳🤦🏾‍♂️😦

We in the Western Cape didn’t vote for the anc and it is the only province where The coloureds are a majority

@yayaacombi6224

3 жыл бұрын

True but for this apartheid to happen you will need approval of the entire Sourh Africa, Cape town belongs to South Africans not people leaving in Cape Town . And 80% of South Africans are BLACK LIKE ME

@aghmatadams3368

3 жыл бұрын

@@yayaacombi6224 it not apartheid as per say. It is not about race. Western Cape want to just be on their own. WC can govern on their own. It has been proven.

@idy1172

2 жыл бұрын

@@aghmatadams3368 Muslims want to be on their own in Europe but why don't the Europeans allow them to be? They want to create their peaceful sharia caliphates in Europe but wonder why Europeans won't let them

@dukeofsouthafrica8979

2 жыл бұрын

@@ms_busybee5315 then South Africa is a dictatorship where democracy and the right to self determination is not present. Why this always has to be about race I’m colored by the way

About time.....this Government will fold like a deck of cards and the Cape will be a Royal Flush!

If namibie done it why cant western cape

@julirose5078

3 жыл бұрын

Namibia have real khoi and san people. I mean original ones. If u wanna see people that atleast looks khoi and close to them, go to northern cape. The entitlement is sickening!

@johanswart8116

3 жыл бұрын

@@julirose5078 namibie got independence. Dit not say anything about race or khoi.

@johanswart8116

3 жыл бұрын

@NA Phiri western cape also dont feel part of south africa anymore.

@tsireledzopertunia4850

3 жыл бұрын

@Hugo Sr2123 so that's the purpose to have white people in their own country? ok I see where this is going

@777aquamarine7

3 жыл бұрын

@Hugo Sr2123.... Wow😳😳 so that's your mission to live as only white in Africa... Wow!

I always thought Capetown could be a Mini Monte-Carlo

@benhandelsman7360

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah with the cape flats and the highest crime rate

First thing we need to do, is build a strong army. The rest of South Africa, will try to come here for work. We must build a fence.

Yes please!!

@lehlohonolocuefer2771

Жыл бұрын

Have you, in your capacity, made an attempt to educate people on how taxes fund government programmes? The majority of ANC supporters, especially in the rural areas don't know. They think that the money comes from the pockets of the ANC. Also, market the party you want to win come 2024. The EFF is gaining on the DA because it's visible on the ground. It goes to the small towns and villages that the DA and other non-white parties do/will not. People are tired of the ANC and will take just about anything that will position itself as the opposition. Have the DA (the most palatable "non-black" party), Action SA or PA make themselves known in NC, EC, NW and FS. Financial literacy is how you defeat ANC

I visited the Western Cape SA for the first time in 2020, got stuck under COVID lockdown - but I had a great time. Cape Town is amazing - the landscape, mountains and beaches the best I've ever seen in the world, I met so many nice people of all races, tribes. The Lyft drivers were mostly from Zimbabwe - very educated, hard working and just nice. The British and Dutch SA are really cool people - the women are as good looking as Swedes but not stuck up - great food, beer and wine. Obviously SA has lots of problems - the bloody electricity doesn't work and threats of riots and Rwanda, Zimbabwe style things are always "in the air". I wish Cape Town still had dependable, safe train transport as those Taxi Vans were terrorizing the roads. Best of luck to all the good people in the Western Cape. Maybe autonomy is more realistic than full independence. Why not invite the Russians in to build a safe, model nuclear power plant?

@jamesmcardle1494

9 ай бұрын

W Cape HAS its own nuclear power station for the last 50 years.

I am all for it!!!

I honestly love this

@aghmatadams3368

3 жыл бұрын

Me too. And so many thousands of western capers

@vanessawebb1754

3 жыл бұрын

Carry on buying into the New world order agenda. You'll all wake up when it's too late.

@OohPDoXx

3 жыл бұрын

@@vanessawebb1754 lol Glhf

We need this

I support this movement

Black people move to WC permanently in numbers and stop this nonsense.

Im for it

"hey guys we want to separate ourselves from the black people"

@yayaacombi6224

3 жыл бұрын

@Hugo Sr2123apartheid is all u think abt Thts y u want to separate South Africa u must go back to Europe n leave Africa alone

@ngwachipamatheba1490

3 жыл бұрын

@Hugo Sr2123 the whitest province in AFRICA trying to separate itself from a country that's predominantly black says a lot no?

We can do this

@aghmatadams3368

3 жыл бұрын

I agree.

Wish it would happen soon! Imagine!

@sunchildofsirius2462

2 жыл бұрын

yeah , imagine! drooling over KHOISAN real estate , are we?

@sunchildofsirius2462

2 жыл бұрын

@@southfeller3399 what are you talking about?

@fisstudies320

2 жыл бұрын

@Warren Bird - you are imagining a vain thing!

Do you guys need a mechanic? Gauteng is choking me. Good luck guys. What I like is when you said: "not about race...) I love the thinking. Everyone across the world think only race. Let us show them we have a voice. Keep the peace

@damianpulsar1991

3 жыл бұрын

Mechanics are always needed and make big bugs here when they build up a solid client base and good reputation.

Creating a new system isn’t undesirable - we WANT a new home affairs, military, border control, and every other part of government because it isn’t currently working. It’s not a practical nightmare, it’s a process of renewal and growth that we can all look forward to. I can’t wait to see how much better the Cape will function without the rest of South Africa holding us back with toxic policies and politics. #FreeTheCape

@desocrate

3 жыл бұрын

Well said, this is exactly what I was thinking, Pierre de Vos just sounds old, tired and wants to retire rather than do hard work to achieve a great goal.

@davidryke113

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Take over whatever currently existing policing and military in WC and make it better. Current WC inland border is almost as long as South Africa's current inland border. ANC proposing a budget increase of R10.3 billion over the next 15 years to fix borders. WC can afford that double by itself. We can defend our borders no problem.

@BantuEducation

3 жыл бұрын

@@desocrate de Vos is a basically an ANC spokesman - he will be out of a job after secession.

@dukeofsouthafrica8979

3 жыл бұрын

Awe bra

@047Utah

3 жыл бұрын

You know wha if u want to do that go to European countries where you belong ,Africa belong to african if u are so smart about thinking you stupid ideas why u dnt go and reside in England and leave the land of our forefathers which they live in forever ,we welcome you in our land and now do this...this bullshit

Let’s do this people of the Western Cape!!! We can be winners all the way! 👏✊👊👍💪

Let us work for a better life.

@hlengiwemasondo2858

2 жыл бұрын

You come off as a nice person. We need people like you

@asiphejohnson6543

2 жыл бұрын

Go better your life in Europe

@dawiereynolds

2 жыл бұрын

@@asiphejohnson6543 know I will better my life in my birth country.

@lehlohonolocuefer2771

Жыл бұрын

Have you, in your capacity, made an attempt to educate people on how taxes fund government programmes? The majority of ANC supporters, especially in the rural areas don't know. They think that the money comes from the pockets of the ANC. Also, market the party you want to win come 2024. The EFF is gaining on the DA because it's visible on the ground. It goes to the small towns and villages that the DA and other non-white parties do/will not. People are tired of the ANC and will take just about anything that will position itself as the opposition. Have the DA (the most palatable "non-black" party), Action SA or PA make themselves known in NC, EC, NW and FS. Financial literacy is how you defeat ANC

@lehlohonolocuefer2771

Жыл бұрын

@@hlengiwemasondo2858 Have you, in your capacity, made an attempt to educate people on how taxes fund government programmes? The majority of ANC supporters, especially in the rural areas don't know. They think that the money comes from the pockets of the ANC. Also, market the party you want to win come 2024. The EFF is gaining on the DA because it's visible on the ground. It goes to the small towns and villages that the DA and other non-white parties do/will not. People are tired of the ANC and will take just about anything that will position itself as the opposition. Have the DA (the most palatable "non-black" party), Action SA or PA make themselves known in NC, EC, NW and FS. Financial literacy is how you defeat ANC

WE CAN DO MUCH MORE IF WE ARE A COUNTRY ON OUR OWN.

Alan (incorrectly) argues that if we allow the Western Cape to secede, there is nothing that will prevent a proliferation of breakaways ("what stops Hout Bay from seceding from the Western Cape"). That is exactly why Montevideo Convention on the Rights and Duties of States (1993) Article 1 states: ‘The state as a person of international law should possess the following qualities: 1. A permanent population (one could argue that Hout Bay has this, although they do not have unique 'culture' and/or predominant language that is different from the rest of the Western Cape, nor under threat by the rest of the Western Cape) 2. A defined territory (Hout Bay qualifies) 3. A government (if they were part of the new sovereign state, they'd even qualify for this, since the proposed Canton system of governing effectively means that they could be governing themselves) 4. Capacity to enter into relations with other states’ (this is where they'd have difficulty, since as a region, they'd have to prove that they could be economically viable). I accept that this is a simplification, so I'm happy to have an open discussion about where I might be wrong?

@3freeet948

2 жыл бұрын

I'd suggest you put this question to the CIAG on Twitter or FB. You will surely get an answer on this matter from them there.

@robkading5274

2 жыл бұрын

@@motionenergy808 Who are the ‘you’ you’re referring to? The majority who will decide in a referendum whether to claim independence are descendants of the first permanent inhabitants of the area.

Alan Windes absolute spineless nature on this issue is quite telling. "What if Hout Bay wants to secede from Cape Town". What the hell. What kind of argument or rationale is that?

@willievantee8987

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. He fetched that argument from behind his toilet. No wonder the DA never gets anywhere in Parliament. With argumentative ability like that...

@arnandvandermerwe5998

3 жыл бұрын

It will simply then become the Canton of Hout Bay😄 problem solved

@robertking7506

3 жыл бұрын

He made no valid points. However, there is an honest debate we can have post-independence regarding the border and which communities want to be part of the new Cape Republic. If there are some border towns in the WC that want to stay as part of SA then that should be allowed and if there are some border towns in SA that want to join the WC, then it should be allowed as well.

@gr8Kalle

3 жыл бұрын

Its perhaps because of these jokers that used to sell "republic of Hout Bay" passports and put up the sign on suikerbossie hill.

@ah1rooivalk

3 жыл бұрын

What if houtbay succeeds from Cape Town. Me an intellectual: Yes.

I moved overseas and make 5x more than I ever have in South Africa, I will send every penny to support the creation of a new government

@bangiwencai5589

7 ай бұрын

While you overseas, good for you

Will be great!

Yea cool but why?? I'd honestly be bummed if the Western Cape would be independent. I honestly think we should get rid of our current government coz I think we all don't like how things are run...Instead of being independent, coz I don't think anything would change THAT MUCH...

@ah1rooivalk

3 жыл бұрын

The western cape has not elected the current government of the day, that sounds like a you problem.

@barrymckockinner2932

3 жыл бұрын

@Armo Moose I never said the Western Cape cannot be independent, I honestly do not care what the Western Cape does any more

very stupid idea.start voting the right parties into power.

@bonganimoris3852

3 жыл бұрын

Total madness! Stupid hypocrites!

@granwalsolomon5644

3 жыл бұрын

@@bonganimoris3852 Why should you say such a thing

@bonganimoris3852

3 жыл бұрын

Western cape belong to South African! Indeginuos South Africans not this bunch of terrorists! Jihad and alqaeda associates!

That a Mother City of South Africa 🇿🇦 Cape Town has a Freedom in a South Africa. What more does they want!!

Good job well done

Shame.....this so sad..ask Spain they won't win

Let people do what they wanna do 🤦🏽‍♀️ just stop forcing things, they wanna be independent let it be like wtf

@amohelangmashego1053

3 жыл бұрын

You want another Orania? 😂 At least one thing ANC is good at since they became in power was keeping the SA land the SA land, just Orania is the problem.

@modisedaeswatiniprincess6944

3 жыл бұрын

@@amohelangmashego1053 I'm not from Cape Town, I'm not their leader all I'm saying is leave people alone because it's not our business... shiiii if civil war starts it's still their business

@KatangaCatchtv

2 жыл бұрын

@@modisedaeswatiniprincess6944 why don't they go to Europe if they don't want black 😪😪

@modisedaeswatiniprincess6944

2 жыл бұрын

@@KatangaCatchtv I'm just tired of arguing with those people the sooner they leave the better even if it means they take Cape town 😩 just go away

@matamba6774

2 жыл бұрын

Some black folks are so politically imature and never see people's agendas 🤦🏾‍♂️, its dangerous and scary. Boers are not native to Africa and shouldnt be treated as such. Do any of you think that Africans could pull of this stupidity in One of their nations of origin?! Im here to inform you that European nations dont Care about African lives. Europe is having a conversation about IF its morally wrong for Europe to Keep colonies in Africa. Did yall understand-- they are aruing IF its right or wrong! They dont car about Africa and its people. In some European nations they also teach students not to feel bad by economically strangle African nations and assassinate those that dont follow the Europeans Will. Its all over internet and yall wanna give Them a independent country in your nation. Madness

Praying and holding thumbs for you guys from Gauteng!

@lincolnbarnabas32

3 жыл бұрын

You sound like someone who would make his this side soon as The Cape gets its independence 🤣

@aghmatadams3368

3 жыл бұрын

Great support. Thank you

@ScissorN

2 жыл бұрын

Im holding thumbs they take the quickest 🛳 back to were they came from

a good initiative