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honestly, canada is the worst offender, their military is in absolute chaos

@bigpopsgg2429

Ай бұрын

Yh cause even if the US left nato Canada would be fine. Who tf would invade Canada? You would be instantly starting a fight with the US if you tried to annex all of the land north of its border

@wkwojti

Ай бұрын

Therefore, Canadians, especially those living in the north of the country, should start learning Russian language

@notaspy1227

Ай бұрын

@@wkwojtiyeah, I don't see Russia getting by Alaska. America will protect it's hat.

@JoshuaRenaud-im4wm

Ай бұрын

Canada doesn't have a huge military. But they are some of the best trained military. That's why they never lost a war. Canada captured Vimy Ridge in 3 days, after the British and France failed to do so in a couple years of fighting.

@jonhammshog

Ай бұрын

@@JoshuaRenaud-im4wm They have an excellent special forces group and I'm sure have excellent soldiers, I'm more or less talking about logistics, and their equipment. In its' current state Canada could not defend itself. That is coming from Canada's own top military commander.

8 minutes into the video before he actually began speaking about the topic.......

@johndoe-cd9vt

Ай бұрын

thanks, I will jump to 8 min

@Parakeet-pk6dl

Ай бұрын

It has become a hallmark of this channel to ramble on about forever when there’s really only for about 3 or 4 minutes real content. It’s almost intriguing.

@notaspy1227

Ай бұрын

And you didn't link the time?? Party Foul OP. I like the filler though.

@pyro3rg

Ай бұрын

Thank you!

@Dhdh365

Ай бұрын

Doesn’t hurt to provide the context as to why this topic is relevant and worth asking about.

There is no NATO without the US

@InYourNetwork

Ай бұрын

wouldn't be the case if europe began to invest in their military. when war breaks out, free healthcare will be the last worry on anyones mind.

@Battleneter

Ай бұрын

@@InYourNetwork Many countries in Europe have ramped up spending recently, Poland and Germany to name several obvious ones. I really have my doubts Russia will invade a NATO country, but even if it did tomorrow Ukraine shows us they are not as capable as many claim. European NATO countries could absolutely deal with Russia right now without the US in a conventional war, but it would not be fast.

@0fficialdregs

Ай бұрын

@@InYourNetwork agreed

If Europe finally came together and created an effective, united military organization without the US, they would likely diminish the US's influence in the Middle East and North Africa. The far shorter logistical distance would make it easier for a European military to reach near peer status with the Americans, and that could certainly change the risk analysis when discussing matters on which they have differences of opinion such as Israel. Egypt could be less inclined to grant passage to American warships via the Suez if it had European defense assurances, and then you're in an exposed position if you send carrier groups off the coast of Gaza that Europe doesn't want there.

@MrPlummer10

Ай бұрын

Geography is hard its ok.

@Menacetosociety-qu5br

Ай бұрын

I really don’t think the US gov would mind at this point. As long as you guys are still our friends. Cuz the US got other shit to deal with.

@Rob_F8F

Ай бұрын

Europe should absolutely do it. Completely transform culture and spending practices to generate enough troops and equipment to match the USA. When the EU has 10,000+ combat aircraft and a fleet of 11 carrier strike groups, the US can finally be kicked out of the Middle East and concentrate on repairing its infrastructure and creating a more European style healthcare system.

@inteallsviktigt

Ай бұрын

@@Rob_F8Feurope doesn’t need carrier strike groups as our geography grants us natural islands that does the same thing. Everything related is close to us. While the USA have two giant oceans between them and everything else

@pierregibson6699

Ай бұрын

Soooo becoming a direct competitor and threat to us is your best 🤨🧐 answer do you really really want THOSE Momar/Sadam problems,….. by the way we GOT Lasers NOW 😅….

As a German, I'm glad for American Protection! But if the US decides to pull the plug, I would be the last to blame them!

@Quantum-1157

Ай бұрын

You’ll end up as the smallest province of Russia if US quits NATo!

@mrbad3036

Ай бұрын

Seems like someone has been living under a rock for the past 2 years.

@Quantum-1157

Ай бұрын

@@mrbad3036 probably attending Afd rallies where Russia is seen as a ‘friend’ of Germany and ‘terrorists with fertilizer bags are seen as existential threat to Germany!”

@johnvif

Ай бұрын

​@@Quantum-1157are you a toddler? Zero knowledge of European military

@Quantum-1157

Ай бұрын

@@johnvif nah you are in denial. First of all there’s no European military. It’s individual countries. Secondly, there is NO WAY France and UK are using their nukes should Russia invade up to East Germany. They will be begging for US intervention! These are the facts! Remember US has donated its nukes to holland Italy and Turkey! Also world knows about ‘European militaries’ from ww1 and ww2! 😂🤣😂🇺🇸💪🇺🇸

Does the US have a responsibility to defend Europe? No Is it in the best interest of the US to defend Europe? Yes

I pay KZread to avoid commercials. Then here comes this guy that takes up 5 minutes to sell me a body shaver. No good !!

Any such decision would come from Congress, not the president alone. Trump went on this same rhetoric back in 2016 and when he became president he said "NATO is now stronger".

@benoitchamplon7149

Ай бұрын

The guy manage to put doubt inside the alliance while not even president... Trust is everything for an alliance like NATO to survive, and there's a thousand way Trump could break the trust with a single tweet.

@nuba16can

Ай бұрын

The president is the commander and chief of the military and is needed to declare war. He can efficiently say no to NATO and using our military. The constitution is clear and no treaty can override it

@acevaver5425

Ай бұрын

@@benoitchamplon7149 It doesn't matter what trump says, he makes a point. Even if every european nation contributed 2% of their gdp, US would still be paying much more. None of us want the US to back out of nato, but not contributing is already a "break the trust". Imagine you did this with the bank or a loanshark.

@evilwelshman

Ай бұрын

@@acevaver5425 To be fair, the 2% rule first only came about in 2014, following the Russian annexation of Crimea, and was not a founding requirement when NATO was first developed, or for most of the countries who fall short joined. And it takes time to make responsible changes and adjustments to a country's economy and spending, as well as to figure out what and where to spend those resources. After all, you wouldn't want an ally to meet the 2% target by buying new toasters and ovens for each soldier every year, right?

@seanparvis8568

Ай бұрын

he might not be able to over congress BUT as commander and chief he has complete control of the execution of the war.....he could send one bullet and a shoe lace as our response to article 5

John Bolton no the greatest source but is he really😂

It's always the same argument every time this topic gets discussed. It's either - "OMG! The US is pulling out of NATO altogether.... GASP!!" or it's the unchanged status quo. NO!!! There is a middle ground in there more vast than the ocean that divides us and that's where the answer lies. NATO was formed as a way to defend Europe against Soviet aggression and it was decided that the US would assume the lead role because at the time, it was the only nation that could do so. Europe was in ruins. But no one said that Europe; which has a combined GDP larger than the US, has to be America's dependent forever. The war has been over for eighty years, it's time for Europe to grow the f*ck up and start pulling its weight! And since it's never going to do that unless it's forced to do so, a bit of less than subtle coercion from America is in order. Cough up, Europe! We're not your f*cking sugar daddy!

@benoitchamplon7149

Ай бұрын

Dude, you're cute, but USA has done everything in their power to keep Europe dependant, actively hampering european arm industry so we keep buying your stuff instead. With the sanctions on Russia, energy prices skyrocketed, and you raked in huge profit with the gaz market, all the while taking protectionnist measures to screw us even more. The US got richer thanks to Putin, while it has cost Europe hundreds of billions. Don't act superior, it's unbecoming.

@thebros2866

Ай бұрын

The war has actually been over since the end of 1991 when the Soviet Union collapsed. That’s really when the Cold War ended. Yes, the US should not be Europe’s Sugar daddy and pay their bills for them but even Bush had some concerns about modern day Russia possibly trying to return to a Soviet Union type posture meaning the US doesn’t trust Russia even if Russia said they are no longer a threat. …and then comes Putin, a former KGB agent who misses the Soviet Union, started countless wars within Russia and ex-Soviet states like Georgia and now Ukraine and who has threatened Moldova over Transnistria. The US was pulled in to WW1 because of isolationism and went home and became isolated until WW2 where we had leave our home (again) to deal with a new threat after Pearl Harbor and Nazi spies tried to invade our homeland. Look up Operation Pastorius. Learn your history or we are all doomed to repeat it again a 3rd time.

@cyclesaviorn2700

Ай бұрын

But if they do that they wont be able to afford free healthcare

@maritaschweizer1117

Ай бұрын

If Europe has to increase its military spending the investments would go into an own arms production and the currently 65% that goes to US arms producer would shrink considerably with the effect that the price for the Pentagon goes up. Both sides will lose. In the worst case Europe vecome dependent from Russia or China and than USA become just a regional power while China dominates the world.

@InYourNetwork

Ай бұрын

@@maritaschweizer1117 oh please. lol european nations buy more military equipment from other european nations than they do america. trust me, america will not suffer if europe begins to actually pull their weight.

as if Europe wouldn't be able to create their own nuclear deterrent and defense capabilities. Let the US withdraw and see what happens. The current arrangement was an arrangement that was decided in order to maintain the balance of power and was to the benefit of all including the USA. If that balance of power is broken things will change and fast

Yes please!

The Big Guy will most likely remain in the White House????? How???

@Heffy424

Ай бұрын

Their left leaning news

@danielleal1037

Ай бұрын

I was going to say exactly what Heffy424 said. The European media basically portrays Choe Piden as the greatest leader in American history.

@colmglass

Ай бұрын

Who is the big guy??? The teetering octogenarian ???? But no one knows who is running the country.

@olsenfernandes3634

Ай бұрын

​@@danielleal1037 Bold of you to assume that we weren't laughing at both of them.

@vaniaandrade9671

Ай бұрын

You would prefer to see US governed by Trump /Putin coalition? Putin is waiting for his friend Trump get to power again to continue his goal: break the West and US hegemony! Choose wisely US!!!

What this video tells us is how exposed Europe would be without the US in NATO.

It’s like asking if a human body can operate without its heart/brain.

One thing we gotta get rid of in this whole "US contribution vs other NATO countries contribution" in absolute terms is comparing US military expenditure with individual European nations. The US is basically a continent on its own, so it'd be fairer to compare US spending to EU (+Norway/UK) spending.

@t.miller8456

Ай бұрын

Yeah that makes much more sense.

@carlosf4207

Ай бұрын

That's some BS. NATO should be able to focus on Russia, while America still has China, NK, Iran, the war on drugs, pirates and terrorists worldwide. Americans can't continue to carry the free world while Europeans enjoy short work weeks, pension and free healthcare.

@jpablo700

Ай бұрын

Agree but the spending as a percent of GDP varies within the EU countries. Perhaps a doughnut chart that has the EU as a whole, but segmented who contributes what within the EU portion.

@user-up5rt8dc1y

Ай бұрын

Also you should look WHERE the spending takes place. US buys US toys so money stays in the US. Europe buys US toys so money flows out of Europe. Fix this by Europe buying european and look at type of spending ( do soldier pensions count for example) . It s a bit more complicated.

France is forbidden to use its nukes to protect its allies ? Nonsense. Recently it has been said again that France's nukes have an intended protection for Europe. France want to include some European allies under its umbrella, in a way or another (nuclear sharing like the US does ? explicit commitment with french Rafales in other countries ? this is up for discussion, but it remains a true extend of the French nuclear arm).

I don't think that the United States would leave NATO, because that would mean that the United States would have to fight alone against China in a possible war in the Pacific Ocean.

@josuevelasquez223

Ай бұрын

Not necessarily since we have Japan, Korea, and Australia as major allies in the Pacific. Hell even Vietnam likes us more than China as crazy as that might sound.

@gtr5860

Ай бұрын

What Macron saying about Taiwan months ago??

@michaelmichelsson

Ай бұрын

@@josuevelasquez223 Those allies are just not enough against China

@michaelmichelsson

Ай бұрын

@@gtr5860 France is not NATO, NATO is an alliance where things are decided together

@pikapi6993

Ай бұрын

@@josuevelasquez223 yes, but they don't have to. Unlike NATO allies. And you must remember that China has a populatiion of 1 billion. It took so many countries to defeat 3 countries (Japan, Italy, Germany) during WWII. It's not easy to defeat China in a war. It would be another WWII, or even worse.

I thought you were gonna say Superdry?! Btw I have the same Shirt 😉

Not a single international war has occurred on the contiguous states of the US soil Alaska to California, Michigan to Florida, in the modern era 1900 onwards, while The Civil War was a brutal conflict, it was an internal conflict, and it was in the 1860s I think. It is 100% in US’s interest to create a military wall from Turkey to Portugal. It keeps the Russian bear safely away from them. If Russia misbehaves then having a front around the Danube is way better than having it around Spain or Italy! That reason itself is sufficient let alone other reasons like US -EU trade, etc etc

@alex4863

Ай бұрын

Give examples with Russia purposely invading a NATO country (Excluding the recent baltics because it’s the obvious)? Because France,Britain, US, & UK have receipts of invading Russian territory purposely, if you believe NATO is strictly “defensive” you’re drunk on Western Propaganda.

@jameslewis2635

Ай бұрын

Pearl Harbour is US soil since Hawaii is technically a US state. As such saying that there has been no international war on US soil is incorrect. Also I believe there were other islands in the pacific that were fought over in World War 2 which are (or were) United States territories. This is without factoring in terrorist activities like the Two Towers incident. The fact of the matter is that the United States is still vulnerable to the activities of outside states and parties. With the proliferation of military technologies worldwide the list of groups that could actually strike at US territory grows every year.

@deltanitros

Ай бұрын

Russia marched all the way to Paris in 1814 when America was much weaker and technically at war with their ally Britain. No one back then even spoke about Russia invading us. In fact we purchased Alaska from them just a few decades later. The idea that the Russians are going to invade us is a 'Red Dawn' fantasy. Russia can't conquer all of Europe. Literally no country in ALL of Europe's history has EVER been able to do that. So why should we believe someone's gonna do that now when the task is arguably the most difficult it has ever been. America can and should leave Europe

@homieinthesky8919

Ай бұрын

Japan invaded parts of alaska

@Quantum-1157

Ай бұрын

@@homieinthesky8919 yeah that was a huge battle and people in Texas, Florida, NY. California saw thousands dead

Yes.

The UK’s SSBN’s are deployed on NATO patrols

Don’t forget about Germany ex chancellor on the border of Gasprom and the gas line from Russia made zero sense from a NATO stand point.

"Biden will most likely remain in the white house" What polls have you been looking at?

@Joel86543

Ай бұрын

I don't know but polls are not really beliveble. Usually Whan I see a poll I assume that the other candidate is winning(in swing states case)

@pierregibson6699

Ай бұрын

He will be shocked

@Booz2020

Ай бұрын

Letz Go BRANDON 🇨🇳

@GamerFromJump

Ай бұрын

He knows elections don’t matter anymore.

What a lot of these channels fail to take into account (given their very and often unfairly given Pro-US biases) is that while the United States has been enjoying their role over the last few decades as the "Sole Superpower" and thus enjoying the benefits of it, the european countries have been quietly taking advantage of this very brief peace time to further integrate and unite as much of the european continent as they can to help further prevent major wars from happening in the heartlands of Europe ever again. When you stop to consider the different cultures, languages,beliefs and politics that exist in Europe on top of the very deep rivalries which span centuries and then think about how much work, money and energy it takes to take over 20 nations of a continent with 44-50 nations in it (depending on how you define it), get them all to bury their hatchets, integrate them to a completely new system, standardise as much as you can remove complications, try to give them a new united identity to replace or water down their old ones, try to better balance the economies out despite the vast differences in wealth and poverty and so on. It is a monumentous task in its self! As much as people like to mock and belittle the European Union for being easy to paralyse and generally useless when it comes to major issues, you have to give it some credit for being able to take advantage of the collapse of the Soviet Union with their successful attempt at taking loads of impoverished, crime-ridden and heavily corrupted ex-communist Eastern Europeans and investing soo heavily into integrating them into a more US-aligned Western system. I think this is just a typical case of Americans not really understanding the situation going on on the other side of the Atlantic. Sure we're not all investing 2% of our GDP into NATO's military budget but when you consider that not only are we a part of a near invincible alliance meaning Russia would be suicidal to go to war with us to begin with! But we have also successfully united almost every part of Non-Russian Europe into either NATO, the US-friendly European Union or Both. Can you really say we're "screwing America over" when we have played such a massive role in uniting Europe like we have? And we all suspected that Russia were a lot weaker than they portrayed themselves to be anyways. All they've done is further confirmed our theories when they turned a three-day Special Operation back in 2022 into a World War I-like war of attrition here in 2024.

@pikapi6993

Ай бұрын

Europe has actually increased the possible conflicts to face war again in the future. how? by letting in tons of islamist immigrants who actively want to destroy western civilizations. People are so ignorant about this, that it will probably be too late too solve it peacefully. Just like WWII. WWII happened because people were ignorant wowards Hitler's plans.

Europeans should pay more and honestly show some gratitude

@infidelheretic923

Ай бұрын

Perhaps. But threatening them over it only emboldens our enemies.

@vaniaandrade9671

Ай бұрын

You are forgetting that US and Europe are the most important blocks in the West... Only UK, Australia and Canada would support US and Europe in a war... The rest of the planet hate us or have a grudge on us... Putin created BRICS to change the international dynamics... from an hegemonic dominance of the US, to a polarized world, when he is supposed to be the dominant one... But will be a dispute between Russia and China... For the West and US, the solution is stay together, support each other, defend our values and culture... The West must stop to be naif! Not everybody in the world wants to live by our standards, and we have to stop thinking that they are our friends, that they are inoccent children's that need our compassion or our eternal responsability... If all the West don't wake up, we are in big trouble or facing an ww3!

@vojtapergl858

Ай бұрын

Yeah we should buy only EU made weapons and get rid of the US influence. I dont want our soldiers in Iraq or Afghanistan, those are US problems. I wish we would have an army strong enough to protect us from Russia and not to get influenced by sleepy joe or the big orange fastfood addict.

you should ask... can the U.S. survive without NATO? imagine the US starting a war in the middle east without all those NATO air bases around the world... won't happen

Talking about a NATO without the united states is like talking about spaghetti bolognese without tomato sauce 🤨🤌

@carlosf4207

Ай бұрын

Without spaghetti sauce and spaghetti

@odinulveson9101

Ай бұрын

Imagine if we european and nordics could do with ACTUAL military instead of having US be world police here too. USA are the porridge mix offspring nations from all other nations. Yet the parent nations acts like children now😂

@cococalm

Ай бұрын

NO, just talking about NATO without the usa ..... looking at the usa today, I need some serious cconvincing. However, what has happened over the last 2 years is a nett positive because Europe has been forced kicking and screaming from its self-induced slumber. Trump is right, pay your way if you want to benefit from the positives of the club. European members need to, unconditionally, spend their share. The European military complex has to stand apart from the usa instead of relying on them. The usa, in a world conflict would be expected to defend the world ..... they are having trouble identifying a woman .... defending the world ???? Please !! They will have enough to do against china and the Pacific. Europe needs to assume the defence of the Atlantic. India will have to assume defence of the Indian ocean.

@kleinweichkleinweich

Ай бұрын

talking about sauce Bolognaise with tomatos shows that someone has limited knowledge about European cuisine

@PetalPunkFairy

Ай бұрын

​@@cococalmclown wants more military boots on necks

I like this channel, bit to state that Biden will likely remain in office is just ridiculous

@vyralinfection

Ай бұрын

The fact that he was nominated and elected in the first place is a series of miracles. I don't vote Democrat, but I'm certain they could have found a better candidate.

@Rob_F8F

Ай бұрын

​@vyralinfection Same could be said for the Republicans.

@garethhhhh

Ай бұрын

The fact that anyone would vote for either shows how bad American democracy is at the moment. It's weird watching America destroy it's self from the inside out.

@Battleneter

Ай бұрын

Even though I think Trump is a privileged man baby to put it kindly, I also think he will win the next election, everyone can see Biden is mentally too old.

The US would nt want to relinquish their bases in Europe or UK.

how is it ridiculous we cant buy or pay for anything while Europe sits there complaining about everything while we pay for it

@timtim818

Ай бұрын

Because you work for putin if you complain

@bojansmeh4395

Ай бұрын

We didnt want this war and we dont want it to continue. And also those refugees from all over show up here.

@MrErrolError

Ай бұрын

The US pays for what? How about paying your own bills? The US takes new global records in the national deficit every year. Is that because of NATO? No way, it's because the US overspends on things for their own good. Some of the wars started by the US have been because the US petro dollar was at risk which would deplete the US economy to record low. So yes, you got to pay your bills. Start paying your own bills first before whining at other countries. If they leave NATO, it will be bad of course, but the European defense industry would peak on its own merits. Take the F35 for instance. Only 1/3 of the world's F35s are combat ready, while it's far better for European fighter jets, cheaper too. Sounds like a scam to me... Hmmmm... Add to that that European countries chose to buy the Patriot system, not because it's the best but because the US s wanted it. Just look at the radar in Patriot, unlike the SAAB radar which can "see" 360 degrees, the Patriot radar can only "see" in 120 degrees. You got to pay your bills. Indeed. Start by paying your own and live on your own merits. If you exit NATO , the US is about to stand on the other side of the fan when the shit is thrown into it. It's a MUTUAL defense pact, not a dependence pact.

@Mitjitsu

Ай бұрын

You have the worlds reserve currency. It allows you to print money and export the inflation to other countries. Also, America has vital interests in Europe. So even without an alliance. The U.S and also other countries throughout the world would more or less be obligated to get directly involved.

@jojopaliyo

Ай бұрын

The irony here is that America is the only country so far to invoke article 5

Trump's never said he wanted the US to pull out of NATO. He said every country should financially pay their part which is what is happening now.

The question that americans should ask themselves is the following: Do they *really* want germany, italy, poland and the northern countries to aquire their own nuclear weapons? All these countries have the abilities to do that pretty quickly. And they will have to do it if america even gets likely to pull out. If america gets isolationist, more and more countries will go nuclear. Do you want such a world?

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"Pay your bills." One of the more hypocritical statements coming out of Drumpf's mouth. What about paying your bills and fines Mr. Ex-President??

@cyclesaviorn2700

Ай бұрын

How are your student loans coming along

@freetolook3727

Ай бұрын

I paid them off long ago because even with the monthly payments, I wasn't seeing the principle being bought down. And that has nothing to do with Drumpf not paying his bills.

@Arms2

22 күн бұрын

Do you disagree with the statement, "pay your bills"? Seems like a pretty common sense thing to say. I'll be voting for Biden when the time comes, but its not insane to ask countries in an alliance to pull their weight.

One thing Europe is going to have to come to grips with is that the US is becoming less European. Not only are Latin American backgrounds the fastest growing in the US, but even the Americans with European ancestry are getting further away from their European roots with each new generation and with fewer first or second generation European immigrants. Simply put, there is and will continue to be diminishing familial feel for Europe. As the familial feeling fades, Europe will either have to show continuing tangible benefits for America to remain interested or Europe will have to take care of themselves.

No

Maybe, just maybe Europe can contribute more, ALOT more for their security. That chart at 2:13 the green part should be what the collective European and the deadbeat NATO contry Canada should while the red part should be what ths US pays.

@thepax2621

Ай бұрын

There is no single "NATO money pool", its 2% of the member countries GDP for defense. Their *own* defense. Not a single penny of these 2% from... lets say Denmark, would ever end up in the hands of Great Britain, France, the US, Germany... etc. The US is spending the "green" graph, wether or not, Canada commits to the 2%. And just for clarification, I believe they really should spend at least 2%. Everyone should. For their own interest and the common interest of NATO. But its missleading, to view the whole thing like a money pot, that gets pooled by every member.

@Laufbursche4u

Ай бұрын

It can't happen. US doctrine is to spend more than in Defense Department’s budget than the combined spending of the next seven largest militaries: $609 billion (China, Saudi Arabia, India, France, Russia, UK, Germany). And the US wouldn't allow anyone to come near. I'm German and I assume you are american. So I ask you: America demanded a treaty frim my country, in it a maximum size of the german army. Sime kinds of weapon are forbidden. My question is: If you want Germany to spend more, maybe equal to the USA, in defense... Can we have a army big as yours, with your nuclear power, too? Are you really arguing for another country to be a thread?

When talking about our presidents we refer to them as President Trump and President Biden. These aren’t your drinking buddies. I understand indifference and liken it to me referring to your king simply as Charles. You are such a sweet little peach.

You had some comedy in this sketch 😂😂 Biden is not gonna stay in office. Get your facts up. Also, not paying into a military for your protection.. and you insist on protection... thats how it becomes permissible to be invaded. Kinda like driving without insurance, and you expect a insurance company to cover the losses anyways 😂😅

"No one in their right mind ..."

Army use must align with foreign policy. Hence, before the EU gets a real standing army, it needs to have a single foreign policy on the key issues. Maybe 20 years forward from now, it will become more likely.

One thing proved here is the modern armies of west is similar to developing countries armies without the US support

# Bring back Simon

9:10 so just give everyone one it's the equivalent of everyone owning a gun

IMO each country should think and take their own national security seriously. Each country should have an industrial base, there's so many things that goes into providing an armed forces supplied. It's just short sighted, or complacency or deceived by the bad actors, not to be prepared.

the US has given more to fight Russia than all of Europe, without the US Ukraine would have fallen a long time ago.

@Rob_F8F

Ай бұрын

Except for the last 6 months, the Putin wing of the GOP stopped US aid during that time.

Was this video generated by a bot 🤖 ?

French nuclear doctrin is wild. They don't need preemptive strike to use them

At 14:30, did he really just show a video of FDR saying we wont fight in foreign wars, stating how its impossible to be isolationist, and then not mention how Japan attacked Pearl Harbor (literally the reason we joined fully)? I love the channel but to be honest, y'all pushed me more towards anti NATO until funding parity is reached

Okay I get it, the incumbent normally gets 5 to 6% increase in electability the closer to the election you get, but to say that biden's most likely going to retain the White House is a bit of a stretch.

Turkey is holding her own. Good job turkey

@infidelheretic923

Ай бұрын

Turkey is a NATO member. But by culture, policy, and military buildup they behave more like a neutral country.

If Europe wants the U.S. to stay in nato, they need to advise them how to balance their budget.

@jpablo700

Ай бұрын

A balanced budget would entail cuts in military spending.

@danielfatfingahs5649

Ай бұрын

@jpablo700 there's a website that shows what we spend where you can edit the budget yourself. The easiest way to a balanced budget is cutting Social security

@johannessamuelsson6578

Ай бұрын

@@danielfatfingahs5649 that just shows your politics more than anything..

@danielfatfingahs5649

Ай бұрын

@@johannessamuelsson6578 - doesn't matter to me - as long as we understand we're on "borrowed" time

Erdagon nie żyje od lat.

For France, using nuclear weapons is not reserved to protecting against an attack on France's soil, it is reserved when there is a threat to "France's vital interests" and statements from France's presidents dating back to Président de Gaulle in the 60s and reiterated by Macron say that these vital interests "have a European dimension".

@infidelheretic923

Ай бұрын

To be fair. The US has more or less the same policy.

Not saying it wouldn't be better if our European allies didn't have a more robust way to defend against Russia alone... but I think we Americans forget the role we play in the global economy. We guarantee security (both economic and military) to our allies, and they allow us to essentially siphon some of their economic power. If that were to break down, then both sides would be worse off for it. Make no mistake, if Europe were to divest from the US because we were seen as an unstable and untrustworthy ally.... we would lose our status in the world. Our currency and markets wouldn't be as large/stable, our diplomatic footprint would significantly decrease and our massive over bloated military wouldn't be able to exist. And the European market being as large as it is... what would happen if they were to divest to another powerful nation that doesn't really get involved in local politics too much, so long as they see an economic benefit? One that doesn't care about military alliances as much and is more predictable due to its authoritarian nature? Yeah, it's not just one sided here guys. The US without major European allies would not be able to bully our adversaries into accepting this US led global economy. One that practically forces them to keep enriching the US. We'd still be very significant, but we would just be another large power in a world with many. (IMO, this is already happening slowly but surely) I personally don't care if we are "number 1" or whatever, I just want the US to be a country that is fair and takes care of its people, even if it means that collectively we are not as rich or powerful. But for you out there who have swallowed US propaganda for your entire lives... keep that in mind when you scream "what does Europe do for US?"

And the U.N. please

As an American, I say we must stay in NATO & Article 5 should mean just as much to every American as the King James Bible does to Christians and the Tora to the Jews & The Koran to the Muslims. Could Countries pay some more yes! This would even help us out here some! God knows we need it here! Ps it’s not all peaches & Roses as Our Govt would have you believe! But it’s still America and still really awesome

Western Europe is more than capable and of defending its self they just need to spend more money which is controversial as it means spending taxpayer money. But considering how drastically the standards of living has just dropped they might as-well.

If the Europe is abandoned by the US, i would not the surprised if Europe negotiated a realignment with Russia and China, so they would have the the time to build up forces to act soveriegn in the new enviroment.

Proofs in da Puttin on the Ritz

i guess that's what UN security council countries member do, peacekeeping through arms race, great

@johannessamuelsson6578

Ай бұрын

Nothing has changed since 1991

If the US leave NATO, it will not be such a disaster for the Europeans. Unless the Europeans become complacent and/or arrogant. The Europeans will be encouraged and empowered to not only develop their own capabilities, but also be more balanced, careful and intelligent with their diplomacy and foreign policy. They will have more independence to pursue better relations with their neighbours. Without worrying about upsetting the US. Or being dragged into US military misadventures.

14:40 starts Is a hell of a cope to try convincing US to foot 2/3 of NATO bills

most of eu nations equipment's ammunition's are donated to ukriane IF a russian vs Nato happens eu is lucky to stand or hold 2weeks thats how low equip and ammunition they are and trump is right on 1 thing whatever they do there all dependent to russia until they do something about it they had nothing or they cannot fight him

NATO without the US would be mostly a common European army.

@rteammobile

Ай бұрын

This might be true, but you should also consider the time needed to coordinate multiple countries with different ideas about what that would look like. It is unlikely that Europe could quickly complete a project of this magnitude in the time allocated to make a difference. Additionally, the USA withdrawing from NATO would result in losing supply chains, know-how, and experience, requiring considerable time and effort to rebuild. If you see politicians scrambling around, it is not because they can't find their shoes but because they know the work needed and the issues they will face might be too much.

funny how all this, hyper military united states is now no longer a joke, but a necessity.

Do I think Europe should enhance its defense? Yes. By having a standard (European) army? Yes, though that's hard for European countries to actually achieve. It would allow them to standardize their industries and enhance and leverage their investment in military equipment and munitions, but there is so much politics in there that I'm not sure it's realistic. Just getting past the attitude of the average European citizen in Western Europe to actually spend money on the military is hard enough, even with the present threat of Russia invading another European nation in their own backyard. I agree it is in America's interests to continue to be in and support NATO...it is only deluded Republican right-wing MAGA types who don't seem to understand that. That said, it's past time for Europe to get its collective shit together and bring its militaries up to speed (leaving aside Poland which has already gotten the message)...this is something that American administrations from Bush to Obama to Trump to Biden have tried to get across to European leaders and, more importantly, European citizens for a long time, and I think the frustration level in having Europeans basically handwave the concern away is a large part to the current issues, and is being used by those right-wing MAGA types to bring us to the brink of the unthinkable...the US pulling out of NATO and basically leaving Europe to fend for itself. This would only hurt everyone in the Western alliance...but this is where we are at now. Just like Europeans don't want to vote for more funding for the military, US voters are tired of paying so much for seemingly no gain. US voters are wrong of course...we DO gain from the alliance. But then European voters also need to understand they gain from being able to defend themselves and make their militaries stronger.

You gotta pay your bills, says the man who has been bankrupted more than once and currently has a media company crumbling into dust as well as having a half billion in fines. I don't disagree with the sentiment just the sender !!

NATO can't survive without USA and Pax Americana cannot survive without NATO.

Me and my sons will not die in Europe to defend Europeans.

@johndoe-cd9vt

Ай бұрын

Ok, so you will live in Europe to defend Europeans

@someitguy2175

Ай бұрын

@JG-MV well if you put it like that...

@ddrid854

Ай бұрын

because you forgot that USA is an EMPIRE ( the modern day roman empire), american soldiers around he world are just defendinng the border of the empire, like roman soldiers defending the Hdrian's wall in Scotland

@someitguy2175

Ай бұрын

@@ddrid854 an empire that can't defend itself as it is with a weakening military spread too thin. Unless we start conquering others, we need to pull back and isolate a bit.

@gakukilegrandgenerale2354

Ай бұрын

@@someitguy2175yeah pull back, let Russia and China take over the world and make you lose you number one place.

Nearly 3 minutes of adds in the first 8 minutes. Cmon this needs to be reduced. We want this channel for info, not capitalist agendas lol

1:23 This is so infuriating to hear from Trump... because he is actually right. They say even a broken clock is right twice a day, but perhaps even a deceitful, division-fueling tyrant and demagogue can manage to be right once in a blue moon.

The powers of the president of the us are too broad and unrestricted when they involve foreign affairs. Withdrawal from our policeman status is in everyone's best interest but it should be done in a controlled and intelligent manner not like Afghanistan.

No. There saved you 20 minutes.

@oldgreybeard2507

Ай бұрын

You said it before I got the chance

@unreal4010

Ай бұрын

Are you talking about the title?

@tnnsboy18

Ай бұрын

Thanks hahaha

@MiscMitz

Ай бұрын

No to which one? US leaving? Or NATO surviving?

@freetolook3727

Ай бұрын

Thanks!

The US needs europ as much as europ needs the US. Just saying without europ i.e. Nato irak and Afghanistan wouldn't have been possible. Putin said clearly after Ukraine comes europ and..... Alaska. As far as i know Alaska is part of USA. Why Alaska, because putin said it was unlawfully taken from them.

@guardianoffire8814

Ай бұрын

When Western countries get together it results in mischief abroad. Afghanistan war was about eliminating Osama bin Laden. But it turned into state building project because all the wealthy elites across the United States and the continent of Europe wanted to be the ones extracting and selling Afghan mineral resourdces on the open market. That plan fell apart with China only being the one to take the risk. US would have been more inclined to just focus on eliminating high ranking members and leaving; not maintaining a pointless and expensive decade long occupation and state building. Libya is another perfect example of NATO playing as an offensive organization. Putin won't invade Alaska as Russia only focused on weak countries within Europe; unless the United States falls into a civil war.

Body hair politics😂

It would be nice to see the US out of NATO and countries like Germany, if they decided to keep the alliance together, having to choose between funding their military or their Mohammeds’ comfortable lives.

Who came to the aid of the United States in Afghanistan after 9/11? United Kingdom Canada Germany Australia Italy New Zealand France Turkey Georgia Jordan Bulgaria Poland Romania Spain Czech Republic Macedonia Denmark Armenia Azerbaijan Finland Croatia Hungary Norway Lithuania Mongolia United Arab Emirates Belgium Portugal Slovakia Netherlands Montenegro Latvia Sweden Albania Ukraine Bosnia-Herzegovina Greece Ireland Iceland Estonia Austria Malaysia Slovenia Colombia Switzerland Bahrain El Salvador Luxembourg South Korea Tonga Singapore

@32Jlocke

Ай бұрын

Name me one fucking battle US won because of these countries that couldn't win on its own

@samthesuspect

Ай бұрын

I mean you're absolutely right, but what they generally sent was a token force outside the UK.

@carlosf4207

Ай бұрын

Even though that's a long list of countries, they didn't even contribute half of the resources United States did. I would say their contributions totaled about 25% of the effort in Afghanistan. Their losses of troops weren't even half of what the US lost in troops

@ClannCholmain

Ай бұрын

@@carlosf4207 the United States is the only country to invoke article 5 of the NATO alliance.

@user-up5rt8dc1y

Ай бұрын

​@@carlosf4207 the Afganistan wars was build on a US lie, just like thr Gulf War.

france and germany has already shown interest in creating their own NATO without USA before russian invasion

@InYourNetwork

Ай бұрын

good, maybe they can take up this project and deal with the rest of europe leeching off them.

These Europeans have such a hardon for Trump. The US cannot pull out of NATO without congressional approval, which would never happen.

4:18 yup yup f that guy

as an American, i'm tired of having my tax money going to NATO and the UN. as an American, if Biden stays in office I'm leaving because this country is going to get worse.

I can only see 1 reason why America would back out of NATO. Which would be for them to invade Canada. If that happens, i think most of the NATO countries would be on Canada's side.

Germany has almost double Russia's GDP $4T vs $2.2T. UK and France both have larger GDPs than Russia and Canada is effectively tied ($2.1T vs $2.2T)! If a combined Europe can't defend itself against Russia without the US then Europe is doing something VERY VERY wrong.

American caved it

okay let usa and nato shall be divided and never reform again

Europe should go it alone

@infidelheretic923

Ай бұрын

Letting Europe manage its own defense and then waiting for it to become catastrophic before the US gets involved allowed two world wars to happen. Proactively promising protection is the best preventative measure to stop it from happening again.

❤❤😂😂🎉🎉😢😮😮😅

I agree. No pay no protection. That was the deal.

@freetolook3727

Ай бұрын

Pay what to who for what? You're playing into Drumpf's idiocy.

@getaclew

Ай бұрын

@@freetolook3727 lol 2% of GDP to NATO for membership. And maybe I am but what we’re doing now isn’t working. Obviously.

they should

@wamingo

Ай бұрын

Au contraire. NATO should get bigger. And the number of NATO partners should be greatly expanded. America and her allies is the only thing keeping the world from unrestricted chaos.

@lukethegambino1774

Ай бұрын

@@wamingo as an American im tired of our men and tax dollars going to a conflict across the world, europeans can fight their own wars

@wamingo

Ай бұрын

Tough. American prosperity depends on her hegemony.

@gakukilegrandgenerale2354

Ай бұрын

@@lukethegambino1774you believe Russia is Europe ennemie and not the US ennemie 😂😂😂😂. China is also Taiwan ennemie right ? 😂😂😂 Same with Iran ? 😂😂😂 Get a grip men the US ik exchange for enormous amount of power and wealth made ennemie all around the world who now want to see America destroyed, but sure those people are not you ennemie. 😂😂

@lukethegambino1774

Ай бұрын

@@gakukilegrandgenerale2354 russia is weak and can barely handle the ukrainian’s, they aren’t a real threat

nato will never survive without america it will be luck if it remains in 2 years exsistence without america perhaps macrons proposal of a eu army will emerge from this

Pay your bills is right. The question is why the f do the USA need Europe for?

@freetolook3727

Ай бұрын

What bills? There is no billing of member nations. You're playing right into Drumpf's idiocy.

@user-up5rt8dc1y

Ай бұрын

Because if Europe stands alone, US military economy will crumble. US global power will decrease significantly. US dollar would be worthless because the petrodollar will end quicker. Need more reason,

Trump isn't encouraging russia to invade other countries. Trump speaks business, but uf you have to oay billions of dollars every year for someone else's protection and they don't pay the amount, then what's the point?

@Oneandbeast

Ай бұрын

Because having allies is bigger than just the money, especially with what's going on in the world right now

@logananderson7881

Ай бұрын

Trump cares about Trump and how much money he can get from his position of power, he cares nothing for business. NATO is a piece of US grand strategy. NATO is an opt in deterrence force. It does not attack unless attacked It has been a stabilizing force for the security of Europe. For the US it operates as a buffer between the US and the Russian state, increases the US's logistical capabilities, increases technological exchange, reduces nuclear proliferation and gives the US leverage over European powers. The Ukraine war is a wake up call for Europe. If Putin could have controlled himself, NATO would probably been dissolved in our lifetime. The killer of defensive alliances is peace.

@acevaver5425

Ай бұрын

@@Oneandbeast What's worse than an enemy? An unreliable ally.

@rmitchell8439

Ай бұрын

Problem is how people assume USA would cut defense spending if Nato was more powerful. US defense spending props up our defense contractors and keeps them in the game.

This is the wrong question. Trump doesn't want ro get rid of NATO he wants all countries to pay their part to make it stronger.

@CatholicSatan

Ай бұрын

They DO pay their part. NATO has a budget per country based on their GDPs - _and this is what they pay into NATO._ The US contribution is 15.88%.

@YugaS

Ай бұрын

Exactly. Insurance don't pay you if you don't pay the premium

@RAS_Squints

Ай бұрын

​@@CatholicSatan you see that chart on 2:13? You are telling me that 30 other countries in the alliance (not counting Sweden and Finland because they just join) can't even match 50% of what the US contributes?

@lukemurray4950

Ай бұрын

@@CatholicSatan You don't understand what is going on. Every NATO country is required to pay 2% of their GDP and many don't. That is the problem. There is no NATO pot of money that pays for NATO operations. Countries do NATO operations out of their military budget and many can't afford to do so because they are not paying their 2%. So the US has to fill the gaps with its military spending.

@krikkrakvollenbak5892

Ай бұрын

he wants all countries to pay their part to fill the wallets of the arms industry. everything in the us is about money. e.g. tiktok bad unless they divest and allow the us to profit from it then tiktok good.

I’m no Trump fan boy but he’s right

Silly click bait... The US is NOT leaving NATO. Just more liberal nonsense🤣🤣🤣

Well, trump was not wrong it seems 🤷🏻‍♂️

@freetolook3727

Ай бұрын

But he's not right either.

We are a sovereign nation whose population is quickly remembering that we are better off not entangled with the old world and its squabbles. 20 years of war to spread liberal democracy has really woken up American patriots as to this not being what our country was founded to do so yes if we want to leave we will leave on top of that the current regime in washington has patriots actively not signing up for the military we really wont have the ability to project power in the near future which is a very good thing.

@ddrid854

Ай бұрын

because you forgot that USA is an EMPIRE ( the modern day roman empire), american soldiers around he world are just defendinng the border of the empire, like roman soldiers defending the Hdrian's wall in Scotland

@micaeloliveira2727

Ай бұрын

You know something we don't need the USA. USA should be patriotic upsets me seeing McDonald's, Pizza Hut, Instagram, KZread and so on ... We can do it also like China did , Russia did a long time ago. We can make burgers, they were invented in Hamburg Germany, we can do algorithms because we invented them 😉😉 defense industry we do have and good quality. Time to be rivals and not allies 👍 good for everyone

@hfjtrytry9216

Ай бұрын

@@ddrid854 american bots exist now? ffs

@gakukilegrandgenerale2354

Ай бұрын

What a load of bullcrap. 20 year of spreading americal values, my ass, it was American interest.

@infidelheretic923

Ай бұрын

That's the exact same isolationist mentality that enabled such aggressors to rise to power in the first place. And in the end, it reached us and we were forced to intervene on their behalf anyway. Prevention is better than cure.