I want to hear from all the raptor ranger fan boys after 3 years of ownership

I bought a GR Sport after selling my V6 Diesel Ranger with 56000ks on it. Why first rear differential whine replaced under warranty 31500ks came back again at 54000ks. Main screen complete shut down twice when in the outback vehicle had to be towed both time. Transmission over heating 4 times when towing 1800ks on outback roads. The V6 is a typical ford nightmare under bonnet engineering with poor airflow. My last hilux which I sold to buy the Ranger 521000ks and was still going strong. The last of series isn't the negative portrayed by short term tests its been time tested and problems sorted. I went away from Toyota after owning 4 of them. That will never happen again!!!

@bradleyfryer5563

6 ай бұрын

One other point the ridiculous road tyres which are 30.3 inches the come std on the Gr Sport lasted 4 hours and replaced with 275 70 17 all terrains 32.3 inch diameter ground clearance offroad traction sorted as well as improved ride.

@shaund204

5 ай бұрын

completely agree, I changed my Rogue tyres at 800km (only because it took that long to order the new wheels)@@bradleyfryer5563

@Steven15889

5 ай бұрын

These are all issues ive heard of from others too

@garageblitztv3215

2 ай бұрын

@@bradleyfryer5563275/65R17 are also available and keeps you legal in all states. Increases diameter by 13mm and control arm and differential clearance by 6.5mm. Your Speedo is only affected by 2%. Hope that helps someone.

I wish we could get the 2024 Toyota Tacoma TRD Pro in RHD. The interior of the Hilux is stone age in 2023

@simmo6035

8 ай бұрын

Of course it is, it's one of the oldest in the segment

@Drivecomau

8 ай бұрын

We will have to wait for the next generation model for that kind of update - Sam

Main issue for us - The FORD engine issues are starting to pup up everywhere now.Which is not ideal. I think I am personally going to wait for the next gen Hilux.

@Deatomizer

7 ай бұрын

Would love to know what these issues are. Problem with Toyota fanboys is they usually have no idea. Just fyi, Toyota has a class action lawsuit for their dodgy 2.8L motor plus the Hilux has other know issues too. My mate has a Ranger he's been driving for 10 years and he seems very happy with it...just fyi. I have a 2019 Camry that has it's transmission replaced at 19k kilometers where as my Civic has zero issues.

@Isaac-muntz

7 ай бұрын

​@@DeatomizerFord tops the list of the most recalled brand and most of the issues are serious parts of the vehicle like drive trains lol

@Deatomizer

7 ай бұрын

@@Isaac-muntz Not sure what lists you've been looking at Mr Isaac. Nice try

@shaund204

5 ай бұрын

Mate, just "For You Information" nothing wrong with the engine 2.8lt at all, the DPF "was" the issue, that's a bolt on item, now sorted, My brother has a Ranger, in the work shop 4 times dealing with a transmission problem with only 53,000 k's on it, my mate's ranger, complete engine replacement and not covered under warranty at only 103,000. Toyota bashes like to bash, but fail to ask why they just used the same engine in the new 70 series. maybe because its so crap And, like you asked regarding Hilux, what are these "other issues you mention" regarding the Hilux?@@Deatomizer

@johnnumbat9782

5 ай бұрын

A Toyota will always have better value than a Ford - amazes me how many journos praise the Fords while conveniently ignoring the fact they’re just another rubbish brand that only a bogun could love - we know the journos are getting paid to promote them - shameless really - Paul Maric Car Expert here in Australia finally had to admit he was already having issues with his new Ford Ranger 👀👮🏻‍♂️

I have 2 Hilux’s an 89 dual cab its as basic as they come 475,000 ks a 04 Sr5 81,000 ks neither are up to todays standards but at my age 65 they’ll see me out these new ones are out of my price range.

Good review genrally, however I don't like how you keep comparing this to the Raptor, until towing capacity comes into it. Your highlight the Raptors Pros against the Hilux, but dont highlight the Hilux's against the Raptors. They aren't trying to be the same thing Compare this to the Wildtrack. Enjoyable video though

@davidscott820

5 ай бұрын

Agree 100% with you. It's like all the vloggers are paid by Ford.

Not a word for its durability, in which the Hilux leads. Common, come with the real figures, not just driving characteristics. This is a durable work horse made by Toyota and it will last.

Love the Hilux GR have more tough look

The easiest way to tell this is a legitimate review is by the wearing of a flannel shirt!

@Drivecomau

8 ай бұрын

I think I need a wardrobe update - Sam

I think yr the yr the best car reviewer in Oz. Great job again mate.

@Drivecomau

5 ай бұрын

Thanks Biggie! - Sam

@positivepete4265

2 ай бұрын

Yeah you in particular next to Paul from car ecpert. You guys are the best and honest.

got mine for 31K. brand new zero klms... you mad. I also tow a boat with it in H2 without any issues. the only thing that I would recommend is Ditching the horrible wheels/tyres that come with it.

There seems to be a lot of Karen's out there 😂

You can now have your hilux as an hilux, a prado hilux, 70's series hilux

For the price why isn’t the tub sealed and that rear tailgate should be soft open and close. You should be able to open it and let it drop down on a piston/hydraulic/spring or similar. No excuse for these non-soft open tailgates.

@Drivecomau

8 ай бұрын

I honestly don't mind a heavy tailgate, but would prefer something more meaningful like a GVM upgrade - Sam

Love toyota

At least it doesn't seem to have a driveline vibration which is a characteristic determined to align with the intended operation of my Amarok Pan Americana.

I don't understand why they made this the way they did. At the time they released it, the 4Runner was still using the 1GR, so they had the option of bringing back the supercharged combo from the (real) TRD. They spaced out the lower control arms to get the width when there are off-the-shelf, proven, engineered long travel kits that would give the same track increase. Same with the rear, there are proven, engineered coil conversions they could have used or copied. The suspension tune makes no sense and the wheel/ tyre combo looks ridiculous. Tacoma's are rolling off the line with 33's on their offroad models, but for some reason they won't go above 30's in the Hilux, on wheels that would fit under the smaller flares of the Rogue. It's like every part of this car was done by different departments with different goals. When they could have made a legitimate rival to the Raptor. I'd happily take one if it was given to me, but I wouldn't be spending my own hard-earned on it.

Why do all these vloggers have a Raptor hardon? Compare the Hilux to a Ranger at the same price point please. Raptor is 35k more expensive. Of course its gonna be the ultimate set up...except for the gearbox.

Is it worth the money?,you ask.well it is to those who collect classic(old) cars.can we please have a new onen

Not putting a load liner in a pick-up ??? At least it’s got tyres !

KUDOS to finally explaining the GVM and GCM limitations with these 3.5T tow ratings. It is borderline dangerous for manufacturers to claim these can SAFELY tow 3.5T. Its a blatant lie

@jerrymyahzcat

8 ай бұрын

Not exactly a blatant lie. They CAN actually safely tow 3.5T but only under ridiculous conditions like empty with only a light driver and almost no fuel. Practically tow 3.5T, nope. So yeah you could if necessary tow a boat across town. Or a car on a car trailer. But everyday use - nup. Holiday with the family - nup.

@user-vk4vd7vr5t

8 ай бұрын

@@jerrymyahzcat have you seen the advertisements though? TOW 3.5 TONNES and the ads have a massive van on the back and a load full of people and camp gear

@Drivecomau

8 ай бұрын

It's tricky, because it technically can tow 3.5 tonnes, but in the real world unlikely. If you've got a massive caravan or boat, you're going to have other stuff in the car, like people, bags, equipment. Let alone accessories and mods.

@user-vk4vd7vr5t

8 ай бұрын

@@Drivecomau it is also inherently dangerous to tow such a load with a vehicle weighing a lot less.

@shaund204

5 ай бұрын

Spot on, thats the negligent part that all manufacturers are guilty of@@user-vk4vd7vr5t

Why even compare hilux / raptor ? And they are not even close in prize

Is the next gen Hilux supposed to come as a 25MY or a 26MY?

@Drivecomau

8 ай бұрын

It remains to be seen yet. Toyota hasn't firmed up arrival timing but we should know more as the new generation gets closer to launch.

@SuperSaqer

8 ай бұрын

@@Drivecomau apparently y’all website shared some exclusive info that it’s arriving before the end of 2025 (so more than likely 26MY). I wonder if this still stands today.

O what a feeling has long gone, There are better choices out there. Excellent review 👍👍👍

@Drivecomau

8 ай бұрын

Thanks! - Sam

@user-xp1fe7df4y

4 ай бұрын

The hilux will outlive you and every other vehicle in its range and doesnt drain your bank account through the tank.

looks great but not much else

We definitely don't want to be like the late Possum Bourne. A legend of man.

@Drivecomau

8 ай бұрын

Vale - Sam

The hilux needs to have a much higher sitting dift it needs improved clearance for offroad.

Toyota Hilux is number four

300 Kgs less payload but still rides like a load carrying Ute, and spacer plates in the suspension and a prehistoric 4x4 system … what is the GR Hilux actually useful for? You cannot use it for work or for touring as you are already 300kgs behind all the competitors from the factory! Missed opportunity for Toyota to build a Wildtrak X but with slightly more KW and NW … the Tacoma I-Force Max cannot come soon enough for Toyota Australia.

Love hilux, toyota can do better❤

How can this tow 3.5 T !! As per figures in the video GCM of 5,850 T Less - Kerb weight of 2,270 T Towing - 3.5 T Balance is ONLY 80 kg. Does kerb weight of 2,270 kg factor in weight of the tow bar ??? Tow Ball down weight is say 350 kg This MUST be added to Kerb Weight Vehicle weight is then 2,620 kg Add 3.5 T of tow weight, And GCM is 6,120 kg This is OVER it’s quoted GCM of 5,850 T In theory, if u tow 3.1 T & factor in 310 kg of Tow Ball Down Weight, U r left with 170 kg Less weight of tow bar, Approx 40 kg ? Less an 80 kg Driver Leaves u with only 50 kg !! Less a Full Tank of fuel 🤷🏻‍♂️

@Drivecomau

8 ай бұрын

Towbar is standard fit, so it would be included in the weight. Towball mass gets included in GCM and ATM, but moves across to the vehicle's GVM when loaded up. It's super complicated, and a big reason why drive around overloaded. And Regardless of all that, it's still an underwhelming tow vehicle because of the limitations.

@nathansmith6914

8 ай бұрын

80kg driver? Tell him he's dreaming...

تويوتا صنعت لتدوم من يقتنيها يعرف الفرق

@Drivecomau

8 ай бұрын

هذا صحيح. لديهم سمعة مذهلة

The rogue is a better option than the GR.

The hilux needs a long wheel base version

@bradleyfryer5563

2 ай бұрын

Longer wheelbase ha ha. Let's really stuff up the ramp over angle.

Put a Lexis v8 in the rogue, dual lockers as standard, make the seats a little more comfortable for the Nancy's and give the latte sippers a bit more digital crap to stop them sooking about tech you'd have the best truck out there.

Toyota really needs to update the interior that part is annoying that they haven't

I like hilux for many reasons, but the rear camera system is a joke.

Spending lot of money just for plastic trimming . I rather get myself 2.8 RB

73k for a hilux. why. Not even a tail dampener and looks like the 2015 model inside.

@richardwalsh5570

8 ай бұрын

How good is that, way better than pumped up screens driving everything.

@bushmagpie3312

8 ай бұрын

I think you mean 2005, the interior is agricultural. They need to upgrade it and the GCM/GVM. Bring on the Tacoma into Australia only have Hilux for mines, trades and farmers

Mitsubishi Triton is the best, Ford ranger second best, Nissan navara third best driving comparison,10 years warranty for Mitsubishi Triton intelligent engineering

New triton is a much better vehicle

the tacoma is the raptor rival and it destroys the raptor, the hilux is a joke for its price you can get a TRD tacoma for less than a hilux and its vastly superior

This guy should just stick to reviewing Fords. We all knew the answer without even watching. How many times can he mention Ford iv every review....lol

@StephenFogarty2023

8 ай бұрын

Sam is just being honest. The new Ranger is a vastly superior vehicle. All other motoring reviews have same outcome !

@Drivecomau

8 ай бұрын

Ford Ranger is the key competitor of this HiLux, especially at this price. - Sam

@jamiemagdeleyns9152

8 ай бұрын

almost every v6 ranger has issues, who tf tinks its a good idea to put a land rover engine in their car@@StephenFogarty2023

@gilesrositano9993

7 ай бұрын

Just not equal on reliability

@johnnumbat9782

5 ай бұрын

⁠ A Toyota will always have better value than a Ford - amazes me how many journos praise the Fords while conveniently ignoring the fact they’re just another rubbish brand that only a bogun could love - we know the journos are getting paid to promote them - shameless really - Paul Maric Car Expert here in Australia finally had to admit he was already having issues with his new Ford Ranger 👀👮🏻‍♂️

Throughout the video I couldn’t work out who this ute is aimed at, it can’t tow due to GCM, it’s not much good on road as suspension is too hard, it’s not for trades people ie GCM, not much of touring vehicle, as good as any other 4X4 so only thing left is poser vehicle. The Prado has better payload and GCM (6T) but only 3T towing but this Hilux cant tow 3.5T anyway. Just stick to Hilux SR5 if you want a Ute with payload. Another Toyota lovers vehicle with Toyota tax to go with it.

@simmo6035

8 ай бұрын

Sounds like you can't afford one mate.

@bushmagpie3312

8 ай бұрын

@@simmo6035 if it cant tow, can’t tour, low spec, 2010 safety tech, I can’t think of anything it’s only useful for posing. Is this the car you want?

@jamiemagdeleyns9152

8 ай бұрын

how? in europe a prado can also tow 3,5T better than a hilux even

Just purchased the 2024 48v rouge and gotta say there is more value for money in that than the GR.

Waste of $. Underwhelming and overpriced.

Toyota if you read this please stop. We understand you have better quality gaskets etc and things most people don't see but, you have to come to the party on time with something decent. Every ute release Ford kills it, then you show up 3 years later overhyped and under delivered. Give people power, give them better interiors, throw the ebay plastic guards etc out. Please dont put the 2.8 in the next Hilux. Please don't give it an led light in the glovebox and one electric seat. Do better, I want a Ford but i dont trust a Ford.

@colestockler9072

7 ай бұрын

I agree no part of me wants to own a ford but the best option seems to be the v6 ranger… very disappointing

@PSXBOX-lz1zq

7 ай бұрын

fix or repair daily

@bradleyfryer5563

6 ай бұрын

Check out my comments on actual ownership of a V6 Ranger and towing in the out back. Ranger over rated and under engineered where it really counts

@audiobunny1767

5 ай бұрын

perfect choice of words

@bradleyfryer5563

2 ай бұрын

The 2.8l is a better choice than the V8 Landcruiser just look how they perform in a 70 series in 150kw form.

This is annoying

@Drivecomau

8 ай бұрын

Hopefully not the presenter - Sam

Compare to GR Tacoma this looks ugly and over priced

HALF EMPTY FORD IS BETTER

@IsaacMuntz

7 ай бұрын

Better in terms of tech that's about it

@PSXBOX-lz1zq

7 ай бұрын

fix or repair daily

@Sheepleton

7 ай бұрын

Yeah, Ford is known worldwide for building unreliable junk. And what's Toyota known for?

@veeshalrai6577

7 ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@johnnumbat9782

5 ай бұрын

A Toyota will always have better value than a Ford - amazes me how many journos praise the Fords while conveniently ignoring the fact they’re just another rubbish brand that only a bogun could love - we know the journos are getting paid to promote them - shameless really - Paul Maric Car Expert here in Australia finally had to admit he was already having issues with his new Ford Ranger 👀👮🏻‍♂️

Ford is #1 always, toyota trying hard to copy ford nice try. 😂

@KabariaMugereki

4 ай бұрын

Ford always copy Hilux,do your homework pls,TOYOTA IS ALWAYS THE BEST AND AHEAD.

@maxkoby

3 ай бұрын

FORD IS NO. 1 IN MECHANICAL AND ELECTRICAL ISSUES ASK A QUALIFIED MECHANIC THIS IS VERY TRUE! THE PROBLEMS KEEP ON COMING HOW SAD😞

@KabariaMugereki

3 ай бұрын

Toyota is every where the spares are always available,my friend you can't compare Ford to TOYOTA,I prefer D-max or Nissan than Ford if the king of the roads is not there(TOYOTA)to the world.