About three days after we finished filming this epic duel, Nissan confirmed it would soon offer a bunch of upgrades on the Patrol Warrior in Australia, including a cool box, bigger central touch-screen with wireless Apple CarPlay and wireless Android Auto, not to mention a wireless phone charger. It adds $3000 to the price. Check out the updates here: www.carsales.com.au/editorial/details/2024-nissan-patrol-to-receive-long-awaited-infotainment-upgrade-145362/

@carsales

Ай бұрын

Also, at 7:45 we mention the head up display in the Toyota has sharp visuals but they look blurry - that's because the camera couldn't focus on the windscreen data properly. So while it looks munted in the footage, it's actually really crisp and clear in real life.

@carloinigosypiecco8580

Ай бұрын

😊q

@latupeni9797

Ай бұрын

Let's wait for the 2025 Nissan patrol soon to be released

Our Australian friends are missing out on the updated Patrol interior we have at the Gulf countries. It greatly improves the Patrol's interior.

@ckaparos

Ай бұрын

Australia has developed its own updated infotainment system which is being fitted to all new Y62 Patrols from next month.

both are very respectful OFF ROAD vehicles, I personally use Nissan TITAN and infiniti QX80, for last 13 years they are amazing.

People who have a problem with Toyota charging almost 150K for the cruiser are the same people who are okay with land rover charging the same for a defender. The consistency is non-existent. I mean you have the right to buy what you want and can afford.

Y62 is legend. I won't pick Toyota!

@mwat22

Ай бұрын

That's your preference and that's okay.

@Investor_philips

Ай бұрын

What's legendary about it?

@jerrymyahzcat

Ай бұрын

@@Investor_philipsWell for starters Nissan crossed The Simpson before Toyota. So there’s that. Sure it wasn’t the Y62 but heritage and all that.

@kaidenchetty4572

28 күн бұрын

@@jerrymyahzcatI’d call winning the Dakar multiple times in a row heritage. Along with winning Le Mans multiple times in a row heritage. Cool thing Nissan did but what are they doing now!

@jerrymyahzcat

28 күн бұрын

@@kaidenchetty4572 I wouldn’t call those things winning Dakar or or Le Mans heritage. I’d just call that achievement. Nissan don’t do much let’s be honest. But Toyota aren’t any better.

$10k on the Patrol would get you full digital dash, modern infotainment screen and a front locker basically removing all the shortcomings except fuel cost. Id take the patrol.

@carsales

Ай бұрын

They've just bought an update that adds most of that stuff, adds about $3000 to the price in the Australian marketplace.

@daniahmed

Ай бұрын

​@carsales do the upgrades get the interior of the patrol on par with the interior offered in the gulf countries?

@stephenmiller9254

Ай бұрын

Dont even need the front locker in the patrol as the traction control is still active up front even when rear locker has been engaged, unlike most other 4wd's eg prado, hilux where when you hit the rear locker the TC up front isnt active which basically means its only the rear locker pushing you through

@tonym7434

29 күн бұрын

Probably don't need the front locker unless your ultra rock crawling, in that case get y61 and go town on the mods and save bunch of cash.

@tyzon00800

7 күн бұрын

Nissan in the dictionary as 💩box

Ah the Y62, a tailgaters dream

Can’t wait for the Y63. The new Infinity QX80 looks very good. Much better than the LX600. Engine same family as the GT-R engine (from their own words) which is bombproof but with 15 years of technological advancement. I’m sure they’ve learned a thing or two to improve it even further. The transmission is also the 9-speed from the G-wagon but slightly reworked by JATCO who are licensed to do so by Mercedes. Knowing the Japanese they made it even more durable seeing as the Patrol/QX80 is their halo model.

@carsales

Ай бұрын

Agreed, the new generation Y63 could be an absolute pearler. Stay tuned for our tests on that model when it launches!

@JaysonMarcruz

Ай бұрын

agreed, and way larger and spacious vs the LX600, got more presence coz of its size

@GT3.00

Ай бұрын

@@JaysonMarcruz Yes. Also, a huge plus is the boot space. You know, a vital part in an off-road long distance vehicle. If you opt for 7-seater in both the LX600 or QX80 (or, 8-seater; double three-row, which is also a option in the QX80), the QX80 boot is much bigger. And just overall much more luxurious. They absolutely nailed it. The Patrol have also arguably always been the better off-roader than the Landcruiser series. And to top it all off, it´s cheaper.

My mate just bought the warrior and the giggle factor just does it for me , made me feel like I was 12 years old.

@carsales

Ай бұрын

Couldn't agree more. What a great feeling when you nail the accelerator pedal?!

Nissan patrol 🔥

Patrol y62 ❤❤❤ 👑 king

Got my TI-L delivered last Sep. Only use it to tow my caravan. Absolutely love it. Pushing 160K onroad cost for the GR Sport. Even after I spent 18k on my mods (180Kg GVM upgrade, airbags, RASLARR front bar, Stedi EVO’s, slimline 100Ah lithium under floor battery, DASH false floor, GME, ARB twin compressor, woodgrain delete, etc, I’m still 40K better off. I have a mate that’s having his GR Sport being built right now, ordered it 19 months ago. I only waited 7 months for my Y62. No brainer for me.

I will buy the GR SPORT.

@robguz1007

Ай бұрын

I'll buy a Patrol.

@jyegrimshaw5628

Ай бұрын

Fucken petrol junk

@GR8Tmate

Ай бұрын

Me too, actually, mines on its way 👍

@ironhorse7601

24 күн бұрын

@@Rossi_21 🤣

@markandkim66

16 күн бұрын

Got my TI-L delivered last Sep. Only use it to tow my caravan. Absolutely love it. Pushing 160K onroad cost for the GR Sport. Even after I spent 18k on my mods (180Kg GVM upgrade, airbags, RASLARR front bar, Stedi EVO’s, slimline 100Ah under floor battery, DASH false floor, GME, ARB twin compressor, woodgrain delete, etc, I’m still 40K better off. I have a mate that’s having his GR Sport being built right now, ordered it 19 months ago. I only waited 7 months for my Y62. No brainer for me.

Just a question, seen it wasn't the top trim of the Nissan shown here but it was of the LC seen it was the GR trim. Is it really the best consumer comparison seen the price range is so massive ? I mean how many people will buy the GR LC compared to the more regular trims of the LC 300. I'm just curious

Reliability, Capability- LC Reliability, Capability, Value, More Luxury- Patrol Y63

The first thing you do with the LC300 is lift it & put on better wheels & tires. This makes it even more expensive but will remove the short comings you mentioned. It's a nice place to sit. If you look around there are now GR sports available stock around in some dealers. They wont be cheap though...

Great demonstration mate, well, is only one problem, the bleeding steering wheels are on the wrong side of the vehicle! 👏🏽 👍🏼☺

Love to see the GR vs a ZR2 comparison same price, same chirp

Apple Car play is a no deal for me. but the new Warrior does include it. so, the last of the big V8 will take the win for me everyday of the week.

It would be great for the WARRIOR to have a sales rep in the US to send those mods over for sale and service this side of the pond. Shame the US market on ly has the LX600 but who can afford those nowadays. Great review.

@carsales

Ай бұрын

Thanks for the kudos - and yeah, you're probably right, these would be popular in the USA.

Nissan just need a good design to be honest, It's a Beast

I’ve had my Y62 for 10 years, one of 15 4WDs I’ve owned. Nissan aren’t as well put together as a Toyota. Love the V8 which is why I keep repairing the 62.

الباترول عمر هذا الجيل 14 عام وتايوتا يعتبر جيل جديد بالكامل ليه الناس جالسه تقارن 😤

The LC is heaps more expensive but residual will mean difference isn't as large as sticker price. Patrol looks like a monster if fuel isn't a concern.

For 40k you can buy a lot of fuel and stuff. Patrol for my money

Good video... Quick note though, the GR Sport variant of the Toyota Land cruiser does come standard with 3 locking differentials.

@carsales

Ай бұрын

Thanks for the heaps up.

@ironhorse7601

24 күн бұрын

the centre one only locks the front and rear axles for 'off road'. When unlocked, this allows 'on road' 4WD. You have all wheel drive with three open diffs. The Patrol will also have a centre locking differential of sorts as well as its rear locking 'axle' differential.

That V8 Nissan Patrol for me.

In spite of being a Toyota fan, I just can't justify the price difference . And the rumbling V8 is evidently a more pleasant thing to have under a hood. But I am surprised that my old-school opinions and likse are similar to the authors.

Nissan all day. Bullet proof platform, 25k cheaper and just looks better 👌🏼 Admittedly, interior, mainly the dash couldn’t with an upgrade.. coming apparently…

@mwat22

Ай бұрын

Yeah 25K cheaper also older and dated, fact but also I agree the LC is a tad expensive.

@stephenmiller9254

Ай бұрын

25k cheaper, try 50k. A GR sport will set you back 150k, the patrol you can get pretty much right on 100k

Y62 4H rock mode is all you need . Will go most places with little effort.

@carsales

Ай бұрын

Precisely.

$99 for roadside on the Nissan. Incorrect. I got roadside with my Nissan up to 6 years.

@carsales

Ай бұрын

Ah! Yes, we messed up the GFX - the Nissan is free for 5 years, the Toyota costs $99 per year. Back to front.

That's a massive difference in servicing costs, pays for all the extra fuel the Patrol will use for most people. Whilst saving $50k.

@carsales

Ай бұрын

You make a good point.

I'll still take the Toyota land cruiser

I have no bias when it comes to Toyota v Nissan, I actually love both, the interior of the Toyota is way better in my opinion, plus having front lockers is a bonus. But the extra ground clearance on the Nissan and that V8 sound is just awesome. $45K buys a lot of accessories including front lockers. The lux extras the Toyota has a nice, like the heated/cool seats but they aren’t deal breakers. Both very capable 4x4’s but price difference for me wins in the end.

@ironhorse7601

24 күн бұрын

front locker not needed in the Patrol as the traction control still functions with the rear locker selected. Just different systems, you will get better manoeuvrability with an unlocked front

what - not Tank500? Trifecta V8petrol vs V6TD vs 4Hybrid great ground clearance (rear locker) vs good ground clearance (twinlocked) vs mediocre ground clearance (twinlocked) 75k vs 100k+ vs 140k+

@GearUpind

Ай бұрын

Land Cruiser & Nissan are Legendary Machines and Tank as a brand Copies Legendary cars 🤡 they copied Wrangler,Lc200 and Bronco

@carsales

Ай бұрын

Yeah these two models have a pedigree that goes back to the 1950s and 1960s, and they have a rivalry that's as old as hills. But we've tested Tank against Toyota Prado - check it out: kzread.info/dash/bejne/mKuOldFpic3KepM.html

@stephenmiller9254

Ай бұрын

whats the tanks tow capacity ?? wouldnt be 3.5T like these two

Yeah, all thats good but that V8 though........🤤🤤🤤

neither float my boat, but that V8 sounds sweet.

I’m a Landcruiser tragic (had a Patrol in the past) but I would still have a Patrol for that V8 power. Hey, I’d have either or both if I could!

I'd wait for the v6 twin turbo patrol coming up.

@carsales

Ай бұрын

Yeah, it could be a weapon.

Your statements about the Landcruiser and Snowy scheme are incorrect. Land Rovers did the hard work before the Toyota arrived - and it didn't even have low range.

@Steve.B42

Ай бұрын

Yes the Land Cruiser did not have low range, and even later when they did have low range it was still not suitable for the mountainous terrain due to its 34 degree side roll over angle compared to the Land Rovers 45, so the construction stage of the build was done by Land Rovers, and the managers drove a couple of Land Cruisers on the paved road.

nissan is always the go

the problem is that NISSAN don't have a diesel engine in this Y62

@markandkim66

16 күн бұрын

Why is it a problem? It’s only a problem if you think a 4WD must be a diesel.

@jjwoody6532

11 күн бұрын

Problem is the Toyota doesn’t have the Nissan engine.

Patrol is bloody awesome. I don't trust Toyota anymore sorry guy's. Have owned Toyota and Nissan all my life and the Nissan's have proven to be better and safer. Got the TI-L Y62 and absolutely love it and wouldn't pick anything else

@mwat22

Ай бұрын

Do You use apple by any chance?

@richarddickinson7788

10 күн бұрын

Got to agree with you there mate, bought the last of the 4.2 litre Patrols in 2006, did a touch over 1 million kms in it before I sold it, had a 200 series LC and had a turbo fail, transmission problems, cracked chassis just to name a few things, parts and service from Toyota cost me a fortune. They are overpriced and overrated.

Y62 all the way

Im a toyota fan, in fact i drive a Hilux and Fortuner, the only downside for me for Toyota LC300 except for the price is the SIZE, its kinda SMALL and cramp interior space vs the old Y62 Patrol, infact the MIDSIZE Ford Everest got longer wheelbase vs the LC300 which is categorize as "Full size/Upper" size SUV. it is small and short to be in full size suv, even in the midsize Toyota Fortuner vs Nissan TERRA, Toyota is always smaller in outer and interior size

My hq Holden Ute gos anywhere I want it too

the comparison no one needed.

@carsales

Ай бұрын

The comment we all needed 😉

@Rossi_21

Ай бұрын

@carsales always happy to help feed starving car journos.

Patrol all day every day!

Last night I was literally thinking about what if someone compared these two… legendary comparison Would be worth mentioning that the updated warrior has a new infotainment system with Apple car play, android auto, it also has a cool box and wireless charger

@carsales

Ай бұрын

Yep spot on, we've pinned an update to the top of the comments with a link to the story as well. Thanks for the comment!

One day I will own the gr sport

Not having Apple Car play is a deal breaker in 2024.

@scottcovo

Ай бұрын

It has carplay now

@marcusgeorge1825

Ай бұрын

@@scottcovo which one? Im talking about the Patrol as I know my previous gen V8 diesel top spec Landcruiser doesn’t have apple CarPlay.

@carsales

Ай бұрын

@@marcusgeorge1825 We've just added an update, pinned it to the top of the comments. Patrols will soon get wireless Apple CarPlay and Android Auto, with a $3000 price increase.

Toy-mota "We have set the price at 150k"..... "is it worth that?".... Toy-mota "No, but there are plenty of idiots in Australia that will pay what we tell too, if we can get 90K for a 79 series..."

For me there is no comparison. Diesel everytime.

Work out the neutral numbers. D vs P

patrol❤❤❤💪💪💪🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

Landcruiser deserves a full tuned GR Landcruiser with 3.4 twin turbo petrol V6 and lightweight body than a GR Sport with the same old 3.3 twin-turbo diesel V6.

@carsales

Ай бұрын

Toyota Australia has always said it might offer the petrol in the LandCruiser. That would be pretty epic, no doubt.

@GT3.00

Ай бұрын

Why don’t Australia get the petrol? Always wondered. Google seems to give mixed answers

Nice video but Nissan petrol vs Toyota petrol is more logical comparison.

@boc3499

22 күн бұрын

Also logical that you compare cars that are available in the market. No petrol LC in Aus mate.

Tank 500 for me. And everyone else lately.

$50,000 buy you a lot of stuff

It should have been Toyota Landcruiser GR VS Nissan Patrol Nismo!!

@carsales

Ай бұрын

That woulda been fun! But we don't get the NISMO version where we're based in Australia. Wish we did!

@angelochioio9742

Ай бұрын

The fair comparison would be Land cruiser Gr vs Nissan Patrol Nismo.

😊❤😊Nissan patrol warrior excellent for off road 😊❤😊

l don't like either. The 300 because they have discontinued the split tailgate and the Y62 because of the 17L/100K's. So l would just suffer an old 200-series and enjoy its ability and fuel efficiency. l don't need the electronic gimmicks. l think tank range is a biggie and an old 200 or Prado with 200L tanks is the win. However, given the 300 has an extra 250 Kms tank range over the Y62, depending upon where you live, it could be the win in the longer run.

I like Y 61

Dos monstruos!. Yo creo que la comparación no es justa; deberían compararlo con la versión de Nismo. Pero pese a eso prefiero Patrol

@carsales

Ай бұрын

NISMO is more for on-road, not off-road, surely?

You can buy a lot of fuel for 45k It’s a no brainer

@carsales

Ай бұрын

Yep. But bear in mind the Toyota LC300 GR Sport has a lot more equipment though.

@TerribleTezza

Ай бұрын

@@carsales so it should, the Landcruiser is 45k more expensive.

Just another Patrol promotion video. New one coming soon. wait to see it. don't spent money on old fuel sucker.

Motor awesome, everything else........... Old... Also old against all same price against American 4x4s. I would love a media guy to take the GR vs American Rams and Chevs and Fords Same price even after conversions. Come one guys

Landcruiser service intervals at 6 months!!!!....is that a misprint. Hilarious in this modern age!

Nissan 🎉 I drive a 1994 Patrol....

I don’t get your obsession with the V6 in the 300. It’s horribly unrefined compared to a European V6 diesel.

@GT3.00

Ай бұрын

It´s the Japanese way of doing things. The engine is heavily detuned for reliabilty/abuse and to meet emissions for the future as well as still being more than enough to do the job. There is a strong possibility we´ll see a hybrid LC300/LX600 at some point in the near future as Toyota wants the LX700H denomination to be trademarked, hence downsizing to V6. Ferrari, McLaren etc are all following suit. They have no choice. If Toyota wanted to, they could easily make a V8 that would blow the competition away. They have more money than all the other car manufacturers and alot of history in racing motorsport, rally, dakar endurance, le mans, super gt, gt300, gt500, super formula, formula 1 etc. They had the most powerful V10 engine in Formula 1 with over 1000hp. They are in literally everything. Toyota know what they are doing.

Which has the most economical engine and saves you money and more technology ?

@boc3499

22 күн бұрын

Haha, have you seen the price tag on these?

@markandkim66

16 күн бұрын

@@boc3499, yeah, I wish my Y62 needed servicing every 6 months, and cost 40K more to buy.

what the difference between the Warrior and a hedgehog..............................

@carsales

Ай бұрын

That's a cryptic question. One's an off-road 4x4 and the other is a small spiny rodent-type snuffling forager?

@shaun1900

Ай бұрын

@@carsales pricks are on the inside with the warrior

I’d buy a GQ and put $20k into mods and it would still be 80k cheaper than both lol and be more capable.

@boc3499

22 күн бұрын

Same mate, I bought a good horse, saved a fortune and way more capable of road than these things. Sure I go without some luxuries like seats and a windscreen but those are just for latte sipping yuppies. Gq/horses for the win!

Long term the Landcruiser is the winner. Economy , torque , resale.

@mohamudmohamud8557

Ай бұрын

It's just an over-rated hype created by Toyota

@raymondricciardi

Ай бұрын

What's your "long-term"? Is waiting for one to be built part of the ownership experience?

@ollyfogell1295

Ай бұрын

Yep​@@raymondricciardi

@stavio12

Ай бұрын

There's that dreaded term again used only by Toyota owners and no one else. Resale, just because you think and the suckers that pay that high price.

@rob3518

Ай бұрын

@@stavio12 only dreaded by Nissan owners 😜

I struggle to understand that a supposed car reviewer fails to mention that the Landcruiser has 5 different on road modes of suspension settings, which also changes the mapping and throttle response. The comments made regarding the “boat” feeling would be eliminated if you just took the time to understand that it has different driving modes…. •5 drive mode select - Eco, Comfort, Normal, Sport S and Sport S+ • Adaptive Variable Suspension which changes everything with just the dial on the dash….However, you fail to say what you were driving in, ECO I presume… Maybe you can get somebody to assist you from actual owners before you “pretend “ to know what you are driving which indicates a biased review, or at the very least, uneducated. Your review is like comparing a 1990’s V8 commodore thirsty petrol ( premium 98 octane) but forgot to mention that point, to a modern day V6 twin turbo Diesel BMW. They are the same but totally different.

@boc3499

22 күн бұрын

Awh, cute you get so upset.

Both a great SUV . But personal i will choose the Nissan patrol because it's engine ❤

@carsales

Ай бұрын

It's an incredible engine and especially with the bi-modal exhaust and side exit pipes. The roar!

I am team Nissan they are the best

Every time they put the Landcruiser and the Patrol together in a battle, the end is always the same with the comment on price. Before I even watched it, I knew it would be the same comment. Some of us don’t want to drive an archaic vehicle, regardless of price.

@TA-wg9oi

Ай бұрын

A lot of us don't want to be ripped off by Toyota either.

@boc3499

22 күн бұрын

Maybe watch the rest of the video...y62 better on road, better off road. The LC is new, that's all it's got.

@TA-wg9oi

22 күн бұрын

@@boc3499 Haha...I have even paid the deposit on a new Patrol Warrior since my previous post......Get it in 2 weeks.

I like Nissan patrol...

Team Nissan . . . better breaking, better body, better lighting, better interior, but Toyota has the best suspension system

@carsales

Ай бұрын

Yeah the Toyota suspension system is very capable.

👍👍👍

Only patrol.

I'll buy anything Toyota 😅

@stavio12

Ай бұрын

Buy a camry.

@markandkim66

16 күн бұрын

I have an Eco for sale. It’s a Toyota, so apparently the resale value is out of the world. 😂😉

Nissan Patrol

How about include the new land rover in the test too....or it broke down & did not managed to reach the test site?? hahahahah

@titanx04

Ай бұрын

Wouldn’t be the first time a Land Rover broke down in test.

Whats the battle here these both are made in japan🤣. Its all about pricing seriously.

toyota forever

Im team "cant afford shit"

You have to be drunk to pick the patrol y62.

@carsales

Ай бұрын

Toyota sells more LandCruiser's in Australia than Nissan does Patrols, but the gap is closing so there's clearly a lot of love for the Patrol still.

@No-thing-ness

Ай бұрын

With much respect; Yes that’s true and there is a strong love for patrol, but Nissan shafted Australian. Left us with a 12 year old car and went to the American market and didn’t re invest in the Aussies that stood by Nissan. Now Nissan pics is lowest grade car and does a lift and wants to still carry our market with a 10 year old trim. That’s why I’d say you would have to be drunk just to support Nissan with their lack of respect for Aussies. And their poor excuse for a ‘upgrade’. You could easily buy a higher spec model and do the same or much better Nissan. I mean exhaust on the side but still out the rear? This car is a patchwork of crap. And thirsty crap for your money.

@megadush

Ай бұрын

The Patrol will drink with you. It’s an incredible machine!

@No-thing-ness

Ай бұрын

@@megadush but I’d prefer the Patrol shouted

@GR8Tmate

Ай бұрын

TOYOTA KILLS NISSAN ON RESALE. Renault/Nissannis going broke 😂

Give me a Patrol any day. Toyota overpriced, ugly and comes with nothing...

@itsleytthegamer4791

24 күн бұрын

How is it ugly and how does it come with nothing if it has way more features than the Patrol?

nissan patrol is better

@GR8Tmate

Ай бұрын

Nissan drivers are Kok gobblers 😂

lc300 is much better.

I own and drive a 2016 Suzuki Jimny…I have no need for an ESV Emotional Support Vehicle

@boc3499

22 күн бұрын

Also you don't need to tow anything, or have more than two people in the car, or go at over 100kph on a motorway, or store anything in the back, or drive on sand etc etc

@GordonPavilion

22 күн бұрын

@@boc3499 you appear to be getting emotional.

@boc3499

22 күн бұрын

Not emotional mate, just pointing out the obvious flaws in your "lifestyle choice" vehicle.

@GordonPavilion

22 күн бұрын

@@boc3499 now your getting all aggressive and defensive. No wonder you need a ESV.

Apart from the outdated interior, the patrol is a really ugly vehicle, inside and outside. Even an 80-series LandCruiser is much better than this. Don't compare this patrol to the J300, that's an insult.

Review videos can't make up their mind , they always try to balance between both sides . Just be honest and pick a side !!

@carsales

Ай бұрын

The win goes to the Nissan. Watch the verdict section.

There is another direct competitor in the market up against these two. The 6cyl P400 or D300 Defender 110 or 130 or even the V8 one. It’s better than either of these. Also the LR Discovery and Ineos Grenadier as you say. Don’t forget the Toyota is Running Clearance not actual ground clearance at the lowest point as it should be measured. It’s less in reality. Additionally the Patrol is better with its coil springs and independent suspension all round. No leaf springs or solid axles getting in the way. The CarPlay seemed to take up ⅔ of the screen on the GR Sport, not ⅓ as stated. Recirculation control must Always be a button never buried in a screen (or it must be persistent on every single screen) as you need to be able to activate it within 1-2 seconds when a dirty diesel pulls away from you at the lights (unless you want cancer) etc. This is a deal breaker for me - but so is buying any Toyota. Most electric cars have it buried in a menu so I’ll also never buy one til that is resolved. You enter a cloud of dust, pollen, diesel fumes, smoke etc you need recirculation super fast. No excuses. The Warrior should have been based on the Ti-L so that’s a let down. Funny how it’s claimed these are a nightmare in the city. I drive a 6m+ long Pantech light truck in the city at night and in the day. I can reverse park in almost any standard width park with ease and I have no centre mirror and a box on the back - even without a reversing cam on some vehicles. It’s super easy to manoeuvre so same as these vehicles - you just need to get used to it. They aren’t that large.

@boc3499

22 күн бұрын

Ya but you can't take the LR out of the city because of its terrible reliability. Fine if you live in Sydney or Melbourne, no good anywhere else.

Isn’t the prob for the Nissan that it’s petrol and thirsty so it runs up against the Raptor at that price point?

@robguz1007

Ай бұрын

7t gcm makes a difference and passenger comfort

@carsales

Ай бұрын

@@robguz1007 Yep fair call.

@BiggieBalls72

Ай бұрын

@@Vlad88822 yeah maybe but unlikely the first gen raptors are pretty good and only an idiot would spend $100k plus on a car form 2010 when a new model is close, better, and less expensive. 5.6 litres and a cheesy exhaust = nope

@boc3499

22 күн бұрын

Raptor😂😂😂

@BiggieBalls72

22 күн бұрын

@@boc3499 Raptor - races Finke Desert Race as stock and legit car reviewers are buying it. First Gen is pretty good. Second Gen is a weapon.

Obviously Toyota all the way