Can the Lumenier AXII HD stack up against the king of antennas?
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The king of the antenna world (in my opinion) is the TrueRC patch antennas, but I want to know if these compact antennas can stack up against what is already my personal favorite. In this video, we explore penetration and long range antenna vs antenna to find out who the true king really is.
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Thank you for the review Nurk! Please keep making your videos, we really appreciate them brotha!
Nurk getting all professional with his production quality. Looking good
Pretty nice flying, Paul! Great testing!!! 😃 Honestly, the difference seems pretty small! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
@NURK FPV - It's 3 tx/rx and 1 rx-only ports according to the FCC documents. However, actual power testing has shown that only the top two connectors ever transmit anything. When using the AXII HDs you've got them on the rx-only connectors. That will somewhat hamper the retry mechanism which DJI relies on very heavily. FWIW, I run em plugged into the top two ports, and have some long AXII 2 "long range" omnis with right angle connectors in the bottom ports which stick up over the top of the goggles. Yes I have to remove and reinstall the omnis to fit in my bag, but they're a lot easier than removing/reinstalling the TrueRC antennas. If I want all directional, I use 2 Triple Feed patches on bottom connectors instead of the omnis.
When you chucked the package on the table, I got mystery tech vibes and it was great
The x-acto throw in the table was so smooth lol
Insane in the membrane... totally awesome run man ..I love the trail run...I would be in trouble. So Turk did I win the t shirt....lmao. Be Safe and RC Crazy. Thank You for your time I really appreciate it.
Great Vid Nurk, whilst I don't have DJI at the moment I'm close to making my next quad HD so this is great information. Thanks mate.
@joshuasterling2144
3 жыл бұрын
Its totally worth it, its a transformative experience after flying with garbage all this time.
Great Video... I Just got into the Hobie and cant wait to do something cool like this..
Many thanks again Nurk. I own both sets but don’t feel like taking the time to compare them. The convenience factor is a big one. Putting the X2’s on and taking them off is not convenient I don’t touch the antennas on any of my other sets of goggles because I’m a little bit lazy, and fortunately I don’t have to unless I want to try something new. So, I am grateful that you tested them for us. Also, I didn’t know that the DJI DVR stopped if it lost signal; thanks for that bit of knowledge too.👍👍
Oh man. You seemed so relaxed when the video dropped. I would have 💩 my pants.
great video nurk. personally I've found the goggle 1000-1200mw setting to be night and day more powerful than the '700mw'. like over 4 times more transmission range. as though 700mw is only 200. what watts were you on the crossfire module? great vids man!
You had my heart pounding on the last lap of the tree penetration test
@NURKFPV
3 жыл бұрын
Good! Muah hahaha
@porroco
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah he was having a penetration test with camera man 😂😂😂
Good videos! Really enjoy them
Very good review. Just got the dji goggles and vista. The form factor and how compact the antennas are impressive going to have to order one myself! These stock antennas suck!!Thanks 🙏🏻
Got them, so thanks for testing. saves me the effort in finding out , much appreciated
@danimalthefirst
3 жыл бұрын
mine didn’t come with the stubbies inside - did i get a cheaper package? I saw you pull those out i panicked, went and found the box and found just two holes where the stubbies were meant to go. but the box was sealed, so confused
@drewhampton881
3 жыл бұрын
@@danimalthefirst There are two different kits. The complete kit is around 70 ducketts
@danimalthefirst
3 жыл бұрын
Drew Hampton nice one, thanks for clearing that up Drew
Really digging the studio set up, looking forward to educational fpv stuff and shenanigans 🤘. Can’t wait for these to be back in stock, Dan dibble stubbies on the FatSharks just so I can fit them in my bag as is
I'm going for the minimalist approach. Keeping everything small and compact. Oddly enough that means the AXII over the stock antennas.
Great flying!
Great comparitives! Practical Paul
Great testing. Thanks for the video.
@NURKFPV
3 жыл бұрын
Anytime
This guy is doing signal testing over a lake!!! Balls of steel!! Smh. Lol
@endliberalism4305
3 жыл бұрын
Yup- NURK THE NERD BOY HAS GOT SOME “NARDS” THATS FIR SURE LMAO !
@GenevaConventionViolator
Ай бұрын
Explains why he talk about "penetration" so much
Awesome videos. I know this is an older one so i hope you are still commented on it. Have you done any comparisons of the dji transmitter vs crossfire? I've got the V1 goggles and have had a couple of drop outs with the crossfire even with it showing 92%LQ
Another great video! I ordered these and now feel good that I don’t need the True RC antennas.
@flo-ridafpv5713
3 жыл бұрын
Dude you gonna luv em...I have had these for over a week and in my static penetration tests at 25mw, patches on top or bottom 2 ports had exact same results 39.6mbps ....but having onmis on top did better turned 90 and 180 from kwad, so mine stay on top
Range and penetration!! Nuff said! Subscribed!!
Hey - Do you have a comparison between the Axii / TrueRC patch antennas and the stock Dji antennas? Just curious what boost you get.
That scalpel dart move made me so happy no lie
@maxfliesdrones1613
3 жыл бұрын
yeah mate
great video, i would like to get a answer of the sma ports from DJI i seen a few video that contradict each other. Glad you learn something about the dvr w/o losing the drone.
@flo-ridafpv5713
3 жыл бұрын
Here ya go, 3 ports send & recieve per fcc filing by dji m.imgur.com/R8TEFGW. My axii hd static test at 25mw confirm
Tru rc x air is so good long range and penetration compare to stock antenna
I need to get those stock antenna's off my DJI FPV Goggles. I'm all about the form factor and being able to put my googles in a bag (convenience). Are the Lumenier AXII HD still the way to go or should I be looking at something newer already (I know this video was posted in Sept. 2020) ...I'll check the rest of your videos too...just to see if you tested anything else. Thanks for the review...I'm right there with you. Don't like the stock DJI antenna's...pain to pack up in a bag (and I know their not the best - FCC regulations and all).
I like the "benchmark" testing :) 14:43
Thanks a lot for the awesome video...is it possible to use two cameras and switch between there views for live stream ?
I know that sounds nerdy, but I would have liked to see the Bitrate in an excel chart ;) I can send you a little script I wrote to convert srt files to csv, that is - if you have a valid recording ;) Great test tho, nice to see you are also not to keen about diving down into the woods. I always wanna do this, but never have the balls ;) Greets, Mario
@flo-ridafpv5713
3 жыл бұрын
I have had these for over a week and in my static penetration tests at 25mw, patches on top or bottom 2 ports had exact same results 39.6mbps ....but having onmis on top did better turned 90 n 180 from kwad.....sold all my VAS ions stubbys n crosshair xtremes already
@Quadcopterguide
3 жыл бұрын
Mario, that script sounds sweet. Would you mind sharing it? I’d like to use it for some antenna testing on the channel.
@Rcschim
3 жыл бұрын
@@Quadcopterguide hey, I can send you the link tomorrow or you just check my last test videos description. Let me know if you have troubles using it. And send me mail if you want, I also wrote an excel script to import csv and create chart for all files in one directory. Schim@gmx.at
@Quadcopterguide
3 жыл бұрын
RCSchim will check it out. Danke! Then realized I’m on Mac so will have to see if i can get it to work. Thanks again.
@Rcschim
3 жыл бұрын
@@Quadcopterguide you can just send me your SRT files (without video) and I would convert them for you - it's really quick and easy. Do you have excel? just send em via mail, I gave you my mailadress above...
This video needs a good rename. I had so much trouble finding it. Thanks for making it though. I really appreciate it
Nice job on the video...
Try these Menace DJI HD Antenna Pack .loving em so far.
after your test i ordered them, because of size and handling. i really hope they are working well on the V2 googles the same good way. even with only 10% behind the others, it is still a good result.
@creationlabsinc.189
2 жыл бұрын
I’m in the same boat as you. Lol still headhunting the best antennas for my first upgrade on these
@creationlabsinc.189
2 жыл бұрын
I’m so late to the HD party.
@rolliseventeen
2 жыл бұрын
@@creationlabsinc.189 Late? They just managed to get the first system running ok. There is more coming. We are still first adopters or what you call this craziness
Quick question Nurk. What is the compatibility of the fpv goggles with phantom 4 and mavic 2 pro? Also, can I have someone watching the live feed in the goggles while I use the feed in the tablet? Thanks for all the great content.
And now my question! Is this still a Good Choice with the v2 Version?
the middle of the lake is right below us: it is the time to test failsafe, RTH, how it survives goggles switching off and TX switching off.
Hi will these work flying the stock dji fpv that comes with the combo. Out the box that comes from dji . Many thanks.
have you tried the DragonWing FPV Drone antennas, just wondering what you thoughts are
When you switch the bottom 2 antennas to the patch antennas do you lose any omni directional capability? Reworded... if I use the patch antennas for long range and I switch to a short range flight where I want the best onmi capability should I unplug the patches and put in 4 omni antennas or does it not matter?
Haha, I recognize that park. I lived in Indianapolis for a year and that one of the first parks I flew FPV at.
Hello great video how did you manage to record real time the position of the drone moving on the map thank you
Good spot, and a good, thorough test. I especially like the wooded path as a penetration test. When the time comes, I'd really like to see FrostByte run the same course vs the DJI system.
hi , quick question , for max range on dji air unit v1 with googles v1 , do you think 25mb/s and low latency got more range than 50mb/s low latency ?
awesome … will it work as good if i use it to fly the DJI FPV??? thanks
What if you swap out the stubbies for something more advance? The axll on bottom and larger antennas on top? That should really outperform true rc, right?
Very nice test but one thing just curious why you didn't end up using only one x-air antenna and the two Stubby's and just switched to the axii 2s? That seems to be more of a fair test but still nice to see how they perform against one another.
Why do you connect the long range Antennas to the bottom why not the top? I have another aftermarket ones similar but I saw in the picture they were on top. Just wondering if im hooking it up wrong
If you take a look at the link you gave the antenna attachments are different than yours. Have you right attached the antennas?
What antennas do you have on your drone? Are you using the stock dji antennas?
Hello, I have a problem with my DJI FPV Goggles V2. One of the antennas got broken and I can't find a single replacement for it, only bundles. I am unsure if I can mix and match antennas, so I need some advice. Would it be possible to use a 5.8Hz antenna with my remaining stock antennas? Or would it be better to just buy two new antennas and replace them both? I don't have much knowledge about antennas, so any suggestions or recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
Talk about trust in your gear. "New antennas? Let's fly over water" o.O!
Are the True RC stubby's worth getting over the stock dji antennas?
Great video! Would have been interesting to have seen what the stock antennas would do
@Farang_Lifestyles
2 жыл бұрын
exactly,,, I was wondering the same,,, a comparison to stock to the AXll antennas... is there that much difference with penetration....really appreciate that Nurk was testing in a dense wood forest...
@EvanStarke
Жыл бұрын
I live in the Nederlands and i want to have the dji fpv drone and want to buy the best antenne booster and i have the best battery frommelde tesla and i paid 900euro for 1 batterij and the fly time is almost 90 minutes i have the best battery there are and i have made a deal with tesla and of i want to buy 100batterys the price is 600euro per batterij and the dji fpv drone can carry the waight of the batterij it is bigger then the dji fpv drone intelligent accu but now i have the best battery but now i have the range probleem and i want to send the dji fpv drone to a pro to make my DJI FPV drone an drone that can fly a range of several km and the reward is an tesla accu, but i have a secret that my father is the financial director of tesla netherlands but i have had help form a student that is a stagiaire who has bought the best drone that Israël has built and the noice is 8decibel and that is because the props are printed with safier and i have to have a 3D printer for myself to make my won props
Chingona prueba gracias
can you maybe do a follow up with the dji google v2? also did you use the stock antennas on the air unit?
Which antenna upgrade is compatible with that bid analog adapter? Or just get upgraded antennas? (No patch for the eye piece?)
How far do you think the stock antennas would of gotten you over the lake?
The way you dropped the drone at 8:30 lol 4 foot drop for landing
@NURKFPV Joshua Bardwell posted a video on mounting the AXII on the top vs the bottom. It was pretty interesting. (I'm commenting at 9mins so sorry if you discussed this!)
3 way test next please o bearded one. What was the product quality like ? There’s been some bad sets sent out with glue all over them.
Thx Dude
Where is this trail at? Thanks Nurk.
Over 2 miles nice. That got hairier than your beard. Nice test your killing it Nurk
Would there be any benefit of running one True RC Patch, AND one Lumenier AXII HD (like a combo)? Asking, because curious. Thank you. Never mind, it was addressed down below by a " Victor Galvez". Would you happen to have said footage of the combination of each patch, maybe in future works? Again, thanks.
What's the battery set up that you have for your DJI goggles?
I got the menace rc patches and then bought the axii patch/omni kit and I think so far that the menace patches were doing better for penetration than the axii patches are. I haven't tried using the menace patches and the axii patches together yet. Also i've tried patches on top and on bottom and for penetration/proximity I'm not sure I can tell the difference.
I think I'd leave the AXII's on all the time. They are practically just as good, and easier to pack with them on all the time. Also glad you told us what you learned about DJI recording. Great video! Great video
@darioezequiel9855
2 жыл бұрын
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I use a simonk 30A ESC, and it catches fire every time i crash... Any suggestions please?? I am using KK 2 flight controller, 2200mah lipo battery and 1000kv bldc motors
This might be a stupid question but is there a reason to run the DJI system in 25mbps when it's capable of 50? Surely that means better range and penetration?
Will this work well with DJI Goggles 2.0 for their FPV Drone combo system? I would love to be able to increase range/performance. We added Alientech and 4Hawks antennas to our Mavic 2 controllers for better performance and are somewhat happy. Thanks!
@NURKFPV
3 жыл бұрын
Yes it will
How do you record or get the GPS map overlay? I have GPS on one quad, but I find no way to record the GPS data..
I have trueRC stubby antenna on now ,, do you think can use them with AXII patch or should use AXll stubs ?? great review Thanks man
@flo-ridafpv5713
3 жыл бұрын
If urs are lhcp, just buy the patches dude and keep the stubbs on top....3 ports send & recieve per fcc filing by dji m.imgur.com/R8TEFGW. Had these for a week, my static test at 25mw confirm, & i got higher mbps turned 90 & 180 w stubbys on top
@sully4875
3 жыл бұрын
@@flo-ridafpv5713 Thanks Man 👍🏻💰💰💰
Damn, just bought an x-air last week! Something to note is they’re a bit fussy to get on and off.. those 3D printed grips don’t work very well (on mine anyway). A fair test for day to day would really be having one of the x-airs on only, and leave two omnis - Lumeniers would probably hold up in that test
@bricktopfpv7573
3 жыл бұрын
I bought one X Air first, then this comes out. I order the AXII HD and this will be my daily. I just remove the stubbis and put the X Air on Top without removing the HD patches. Think it will work nearly the same like two X Airs.
Andy rc did a video on why you should not change the dji antennas. Not sure if its a good idea to use third party antennas because dji antennas meet the safety requirments and shielding. But we will see in time if people start to get lumps on there heads
What would you use with dji fpv drone?
You need to ask your sponsors for some new hats Bro :) Keep up the good video's! It would have been awesome if reversed the patches from bottom to top to see if there was a difference.
you cleaned your garage!
thanks for this test - You did spend some time flying and checking them :D but If I may please 2 small changes: 1st - I would do wanna know, how Lumis compare to stock antena :P so a 1 flyover with stock to set baseline would be really nice (I know, they should loose in terms of directonal range, but wonder how much, maybe it's only 10% diff, and then it's worth more to stay stock@gogle, just invest instead in better antennas on drone :D ) 2st - I agree with some other comments, that it would be nicer if You can put latency/mbits data on screen too
I wanted to see the stock antenna test as well nurk. Whyyyyyyyyy lol
@avronaut
3 жыл бұрын
So do I 😊
@ppoinha
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah... Had no issues with stock doing long range so far....
@Itsdarts
3 жыл бұрын
Wtf? 25m/bits? Update that shit and test the stock antenna at 50mbs, please? :-)
@ppoinha
3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I get disappointed with reviewers these days. They get things for free and never talk about cost vs effectiveness. If I got it all for free I would also be jumping for joy and all would be great.
@flo-ridafpv5713
3 жыл бұрын
Cuz he said ...stock antennas SUCK, dji specifically made them shit to lower output to meet FCC regulations, if ya want cheap get lollipops they work great
I’m still learning but I have a DJI FPV and I want to use your recommended set up. Have all stock stuff. Can I just add great antenna to the goggles to improve plus that 1200W hack? Please send help!
@NURKFPV
2 жыл бұрын
Yep. I don't even use 1200
Hey Nurk - did you lower your camera angle when you went through the trees? Also, I have an all-white German Shepherd 8 week old arriving Saturday. I was inspired by your beautiful black beauty.
@NURKFPV
3 жыл бұрын
I left it the same place I always leave it
I wonder if the range would increase with the 50 mbps update.
Witch are the best and What is the price
Next step for DJI, antenna tracking?
I've been looking into getting the DJI FPV Goggles but so far haven't seen many videos of a Radio Transmitter other than DJI's and I'm not a fan of DJI's radio so is it just a matter of using a different flight controller? I'm fairly new to the hobby just have used a few different Video Drones and GPS drones but I've been learning Acro with a simulator any differences you had to make or just any flight controller with the DJI Video controller?
@huskyboystv1806
2 жыл бұрын
most people are just using the caddex Vista air unit. I just bought an iflight nazgul 5 HD and all I had to do to run my radiomaster zorro was to solder on my elrs reciever onto the board.
Guys. I really like these videos, trying to find out, what is the best equippement for us. Even if this isent a scientic approach, like rcschimm's attrmps. You guy just missed a critical point. The goggles (Antennas) must be in a lock, fixed position. A slight move with the head makes huge differents in such a high gain antennas. ❤
How do truerc stubbys compare to just the lumenier stubbys?
Flying LR over the lakes on the TrueRC held much stronger than the Lumeniers, like 15% better in range and 25% in performance. And 5-10% in penetration through the bush-course. We'll try to custom form factor the TrueRC antennas we sell a little better soon.
Almost pulled the plug on these...but I'm now seeing 'iFlight' just put out the iFlight Crystal Patch Antennas.....I'm guessing they'll perform similarly but not much information out there on them yet. Hopefully, you'll have a chance to review those as well.
@NURKFPV
3 жыл бұрын
I definitely recommend supporting more usa companies!
@RGMGFitness
3 жыл бұрын
@@NURKFPV Didn't even notice that...still getting the FPV 'basics' under my belt but certainly a consideration. Gotta keep it local when we can!
Hello Nurk, it would be good to do the test also connecting the antennas at the top, which according to other videos are responsible for transmitting and receiving. Greetings from Colombia
@flo-ridafpv5713
3 жыл бұрын
Nah ....3 ports send & recieve per fcc filing by dji m.imgur.com/R8TEFGW. Had these for a week, my static test at 25mw confirm, & i got higher mbps turned 90 & 180 w stubbys on top
Surprised to see only 3km maximum with patch antennas. Isn't DJI advertising up to 4km line of sight reception with the stock stubby antennas ?
Please redo the test with the patches on top. just ordered mine from getfpv, hope they are better than stock😄
@flo-ridafpv5713
3 жыл бұрын
Dude you gonna luv em...I have had these for over a week and in my static penetration tests at 25mw, top or bottom 2 ports had exact same results 39.6mbps ....but having onmis on top did better turned 180 from kwad, so mine stay on top
@etops.flight
3 жыл бұрын
I saw another reviewer saying that the top antennas both send and receive data whereas the bottoms only receive. Wouldn’t this affect the results?
@flo-ridafpv5713
3 жыл бұрын
@@etops.flight 3 ports send recieve per fcc filing by dji m.imgur.com/R8TEFGW
Wonder if dji has turn ON/OFF switch or samething as FS unplug only?
@beezermedia
3 жыл бұрын
Unplug only
how did you fix the corrupted recording?
some people said than the patch up and the small ones down for long distance