Can the Jeep Gladiator Mojave Still Compete with New Off-Road Trucks? And is it Worth BIG $$$?
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We hit the trail in the 2023 Jeep Gladiator Mojave to see how it fares. With new off-roaders from Chevy, Ford and Toyota this year, can the Gladiator still compete in the crowded off-road market?
Watch the video and let us know what you think of the Jeep Gladiator Mojave.
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Rear locker on is possible in 4H. Maybe on your next review of the Mojave you can try this- could make a difference. 1. Put in 4h 2. Put on offrroad + this should turn off traction control too 3. Press and hold traction control button for 5 sec. Beeping on the counsel will tell you stability control is off 4. Press lockers on. Et viola double the fun in 4H!
@ec-uploads
9 ай бұрын
Good post. I've had my Mojave 2 years....tons of dune runs.... Anza Borrego...Superstition in Cali...still never needed the rear locker. Lol
@n0ly77
5 ай бұрын
I have a Mojave and yes This Is The Way.
@yamahansolo
24 күн бұрын
Mojave has locker not lockers ... Rear only. My Rubicon has lockers!
Color is ok, now the important stuff you left out. Mojave is the only Gladiator with steel front hubs, Reinforced shock mounts, rim have wider offset, and front bumps stops are fox hydraulic. Also you can lock the rear in 4 Hi (that is specific to Mojave package). Other than that good review.
@TheArdoski
Жыл бұрын
also sits an 1” higher than the Rubicon.
@carloslaraa72
Жыл бұрын
I have a ‘22 Mojave and you can only lock the rear diff on 4low. That said I bought a tazer mini and now I can do it in 2wd. Perhaps you can now on the ‘23?
@TheArdoski
Жыл бұрын
@@carloslaraa72 I also have 22 Mojave and it locks in 4 hi
@TheArdoski
Жыл бұрын
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@TheArdoski
Жыл бұрын
It’s also in the manual not hidden ….page 174
If only they would make a two-door of this, you could even get a long bed on a shorter wheelbase and it would sell like crazy... As long as they could get the price under control. Great video!
@kidamere2408
Жыл бұрын
eht these are insanely overpriced thats the biggest issue
@Jay-bw3fl
Жыл бұрын
Nobody buys single cabs. It would cost more to engineer than they would make
@Nikephorus
Жыл бұрын
Agreed. If they announced a 2 door gladiator I would be at the dealership tomorrow telling them to take all my money.
@brentworls8509
Жыл бұрын
@@Jay-bw3fl Nobody buys short beds either, but if that's all there is...
@wildbill23c
Жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I keep hoping for. A 2 door with a longer bed. There's absolutely nothing in these that justify anything more than a $40k price tag even for the top trim level. 2 solid axles, a transfer case, a V6 without the turbo crap, and a manual transmission option...its all most people really need in a truck....I see more mid-size and compact pickups being actually used as trucks than the so called HD trucks out there. The auto market has gotten way out of touch with reality when it comes to pricing, and people are just too stupid to stop buying new...so what happens, the prices just keep on climbing.
I still wish it was available in a 2 door!!
@wildbill23c
Жыл бұрын
I keep hoping for something like that, with a longer bed. The trouble is with the market pricing as it is, the people that would want something like that couldn't afford it anyhow, and for the price point you may as well move into a 1/2 ton tor 3/4 ton pickup.
Thanks for the updated review of the Mojave. Loved the under carriage view.
Your content is good. Glad to see you add Liam to try and up the quality. I like the Gladiator, and I liked the Wilys I test drove, but I literally laughed when you said this truck was $80k. It’s not worth that to me. I find myself saying that a lot these days, considering the inflation we are seeing on most goods and services. That said, as I was crashing through potholes on northern Ontario gravel roads last week, I was really wishing my Sierra’s suspension was a little better off road.
I like your new format with the trail signs and also the vehicle up on a rack, drone shots look good too!
You guys are the best auto reviewers. I’m from Toronto and support you guys 100%. Keep up the awesome work
Great review and just got my first gladiator Mojave after having the Jeep jl wrangler and I have to say …I love it and feel it’s capable of anything you throw at it. I live just south of buffalo New York and can’t wait to try it next winter in a couple feet of lake affect snow storms! Great job Jeep and best review guys!
your ramp is really interesting, great addons to your car overview, cheers from Québec!
11:47 Thts really flying!!! Right on Howard!!
Also, welcome and congrats to the cameraman, Liam (great name, by the way!). Nice shots, views, pans, closeups.
You guys are Awesome! another excellent review and I have the Gladiator Rubicon. Keep up the excellent reviews!!!😁
nice reviews; enjoy the vids; was kind of laughing at 3:49 when you were talking about a fixed sway bar, but then grabbed the tie rod. at 4:30 you were talking about the hydraulic bump stomps ( which are only located in the front ), but then pointing to the basic bump stops in the rear.
Preach on Pops! Keeping it real.
Love the look. Took me some time to come around on the gladiator. It went from strange to cool.
@ec-uploads
9 ай бұрын
It only looks lame from the rear.
Harold is a smart man. As long as people are willing to pay overinflated prices, prices will continue to rise.
@spec24
Жыл бұрын
Basic economics. There is no such thing as an "overinflated price", though. There is only what people are willing to pay and what a company is willing to sell at.
@joshlewis_87
Жыл бұрын
@@spec24 maybe so, I am not willing to pay the prices anymore, regardless of my ability to afford it. I can't see paying that kind of money for a depreciating asset when we all know the manufacturers and dealers are purposely pushing the prices north at a higher rate than their costs are rising. Just not willing to pay it anymore. But yes, as long as people are willing to pay it, the manufacturers will continue to push the market up.
Wow! I was scared you were going to hut the Rad on the tree! Another killer video!
I like this Mojave, in this color as well. I got a '22 Rubicon that was on the lot. Silver. I was impartial to Mojave or Rubicon. Nice truck, good video. Thank you Elmer team.
Also, you missed the hydrolic jounce stops in the front. I didnt see a ditch crossing the trail at 50 mph- i think I hit it at 40 mph and landed the otherside without feeling like I crashed. Fun fun fun!
I love my Gladiator the fun factor was what sold me over thenother midsize options.
Welcome Liam 👏👏...Have a good day everybody ✌️
I just bought a new Mojave in TX for $42K. MSRP was $58K. They had a few to select from, and it's a left over 2023. I'm glad I waited for the discounts.
@varunbhogal
2 ай бұрын
Great deal! 42k out of the door? What dealer?
@deweyvarner6963
2 ай бұрын
I did the same in New York.the week after I bought mine the 24s were around 60,Gs! Got mine for 43! Left over 23.
@MotoFishy
2 ай бұрын
Looking at a very similar deal today myself. Seems like the value is pretty high at the low to mid 40s
@deweyvarner6963
2 ай бұрын
@@MotoFishy go for it.with the economy being so bad right now you are getting some of the best deals ever for gladiator and jl wranglers! When you can get these at 10 grand or more off the msrp you can’t go wrong!
@MotoFishy
2 ай бұрын
Well that deal expired on my. They thankfully had a Rubicon 2023 with very low miles that was almost the same price and I negotiated it to work for me
quality content love your work guys.
I really like the high speed test, that’s something that’s missing from a lot of reviews.
Am surprised Jeep never made a Wrangler Mojave to compete against Bronco Wildtrak.
Love that you put the Mojave in the mud and on trails. Shows it can do more than desert running.
Great review! I live in the USA and had thought about the 2023 Gladiator Rubricon. Will You guys be reviewing the 2023 Gladiator Rubricon as well?
I think I’m going to buy one. Slightly used probably. Thanks for the vid!
another great review!
Thanks Great vid. i have a 2022 in Gobi color love my Mojave 60k left over 22 dealer took 6k off
Punk’n is officially back!
Fairest reviews ever!
💯 agreed with you with pricing!!! Enough is enough!!! If consumer comes together we will win!
Your so right all jeeps do wander. My rubicon takes time to get used to
That High velocity color looks better in person if you can believe that!
As a Texas feller I don’t like “loud” colors on an off-road rig. I like to blend in a little better with my off-road surroundings so I don’t stick out like a sore thumb.
I just bought a 2021 Mojave. 10k miles for 47k. I’m loving it.
Can't wait for Colorado ZR2 Bison
That color is Awesome…….!!!!!
The Gladiator was a no-brainer for me. The only truck available with a manual transmission + naturally aspirated engine. Plus the only convertible with removable doors. Plus the only mid-size truck to accept 35" tires from the factory.
@k0pper
Жыл бұрын
Tacoma still has an NA engine and the TRD models are available with a manual. Not a convertible though, and fitting 35"s requires some power tools and cutting.
@justin________7477
Жыл бұрын
@@k0pper The new Tacoma is not available with a naturally aspirated engine. Only a turbo 4. And no convertible. And no fitting 35's stock, which is what I originally said.
I have a Mojave , didn't get it for offroading, but for the confort ride it gives vs a Rubicon, I will probably not do major off roading like Isee in some youtubers chanels, but I know that if i do so the Mojave have the capacity to follow and more, I find the Mojave less stiff on the road than other editions, I road tested an Overlander and a Rubicon, they are very different from each other, but the best ride was on in the Mojave, the one I test drove add 17 kms on it and still on Shipping Mode, thats the one I bought. it have allthe bells and wistles exept for the sunrider top and the bluetooth speaker, was listed 79k isssh, and got it taxes in 81k issk with all the rebates. It's a 2023 and the best time to get them is always just before the new ones come out, it came as a surprise for us to get a Gladiator, it was our little teenagers dream to get one Jeep CJ5 one day. I was shopping for a Mustang Bullit at first, then got side tracked by an Audi RS5, than when to a Jeep dealeship that had an Audi, walk into the show room after looking at it, and there it was, a black Gladiator Willy's on steroids, we just travelled back in time and forgot about the Stang and Audi. And well here we are with a Jeep Gladiator Mojave and we dont have any regrets at all. If theres something we wouldn't go back on our decision.
I love my Mojave. Are there better, faster less expensive mid sizers out there? Sure! But they cant flip the top, go full air, remove the doors, back glass and front (if you wanted to). Still drives like a Jeep though. On the colour I'm not a fan of the Yellow. My personal fav which is what I have is the Sarge Green. My one complaint though and it wasn't brought up in the video is I feel it needs some more power. She's a heavy midsizer. and some HP and Torque would be a wonderful addition. Who knows maybe will see the Hurricane Engine in the near future or something hybrid to kick up those numbers.
I just got this truck for an incredible price with discounts… 23% discount! Use end of the year deals.. it is a sweet truck
The wander on-road is probably due to what makes a Jeep good off-road: loose suspension, recirculating-ball steering, all-terrain tires, etc.
@captainrex4794
6 ай бұрын
I just bought a Mojave though the steering seems tight and responsive. Maybe I got lucky?
Colour matches my kayak 👍🏽👍🏽
Something a lot of folks never look into. Is apparently the 2.5 inch Fox shocks are specific to the Mojave. And fall between their similar 2.5 and 3.0 racing shocks in ride quality and function. Every other truck regardless of size that isnt a Raptor or TRX will need a $4-$6K shock system to be comparable. I got lucky and got my Mojave for about 1100 under MSRP.
@Aceinfinity-le8zc
9 ай бұрын
Just got one for $15000 below !
@captainrex4794
8 ай бұрын
I got a 2021 Mojave pretty much fully loaded used for $39k before taxes, 47k miles. New equivalent would be $66k before taxes. Is that a good deal? It’s kinda my second car ever.
@Mrfix-iz4di
7 ай бұрын
@@Aceinfinity-le8zchow??
@Aceinfinity-le8zc
7 ай бұрын
@@Mrfix-iz4di they can’t sell them. I’m in Nashville area and they are marking them down like crazy.
@RMAG
7 ай бұрын
Just bought a $63K new Mojave for $49.5K. End of the year deals are to be had!
Well other upgrades the Mojave has over the Rubicon not mentioned for faster pace offroad driving. Starts off with a stiffer frame, stiffer shock mounts, Fox Hydraulic jounce bumpers in the front, cast iron steering knuckles, thicker axel housings, and a cool looking non functional hood scope...lol It's a convertible truck that is $60k+ and drives like a $30k truck
@Bleda2002
Жыл бұрын
Same thickness axles rubicon and Mojave.
@okienightstalker3145
Жыл бұрын
@@Bleda2002 Your right the mojave and rubi have 10mm thick axel housings. They are thicker and are also wider than the sport and overland models is what I should have said.
@ec-uploads
9 ай бұрын
Max Tow also has has same axles
@PunkN_JTM
4 ай бұрын
This thing will smoke everything on the road in the curves that is a truck don't believe me bring what you got to Highway 421.. Matter of fact bring a WRX.. You won't be leaving me in any of the switchbacks or curves in a Rubicon or the Mojave.. I just swapped my Rubicon for the Mojave and it outperforms any truck on the road in the curves it may not be the fastest straight line but who cares about straight line driving when you got all around performance you just don't know what you're talking about.. respectfully
Color is ok, love the truck.
I'm a big Jeep fan and wasn't taking to the gladiator when it came out but after 3 Jeeps and always wanting a pickup for the bed ..with this performance?? Its a win win..the price tag sucks but ...
Great colour, awesome vehicle.
They should include a factory installed sprayed on bed liner. My Gladiator Rubicon came without a bed liner.
I really do like that red but the price messes it all up anyway thanks for the video
Love my mojave lockers can work 4 hi but sad day as the cam has failed at 35000kms and it's in the shop
Jeep needs to bring back the Forward Control. It will be an instant hit.
@TruckKing
Жыл бұрын
Loved the Forward Control concept Jeep built for Easter Jeep Safari a few years back. So cool.
@elektro3000
5 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure there's no way to get a Forward Control to pass NHTSA front impact requirements.
My experience with fox shocks is strictly with snowmobiles, gas shocks on a snowmobile don't last long. Is it the same here
I got my trd pro 4 runner for 67000 msrp no mark ups. There are dealers that will not mark up you just have to find the right one. Love the colour of this jeep.
@k0pper
Жыл бұрын
Hopefully that's CAD
@johnmeeboer6044
Жыл бұрын
Yes it is, and I got a hood protector and predator side steps for free
Great video! I agree with the pricing of vehicles it’s simply nuts and if you buy used they hit you with high interest rates!
My 2020 Mojave drives straight with no hands on the wheel on the highway. No death wobble either due to upgrade steering box from factory.
I can’t decide between rubicon or Mojave; which engine do you recommend I come from diesel trucks but jeep has caught my attention and I I find loving the looks and performance of these vehicles. However, since I am new to the brand can you point me on the right direction which version should I get I would love the most off road and luxury gladiator with a great powerful engine just not v8 that makes 15 mpg on city though.
Love the color
If the gladiator had the 392 option, I’d own one tomorrow. As is, no thanks
I considered this but waiting to see pricing for the 2024 Colorado ZR2 Bison
Hopefully, the hurricane 6 makes it to the Gladiator. The 3.6L V6 is just not enough for a rig this size. At least prices have come way down on these. Dealers here in OKC are selling ones equipped like this for $43k.
hey love your shown,, Question? what about the steering knuckle, there is a difference of materiel between the rubicon and the Mojave and also i think the Mojave is wider by an 1/2 inch.. thanks
@zd533
Жыл бұрын
The Mojave has cast iron knuckles, while all the other JT/JL including the Rubicon have aluminum knuckles. The extra track width on the Mojave is due to the reduced offset of the wheels (37.17mm vs 44.45mm) compared to the Rubicon. The axles are identical (other than the front Locker in the Rubicon)
Like the color, but would like it better with the black top.
Cool video. At high speeding I feel the new Ranger Raptor is going to eat up all of the midsize trucks.
@ashbringer5999
11 ай бұрын
Bs I have seen the raptors lacking where the heck you get your facts from? The only thing they good for is speeding through bad roads but rock climbing or crazy obstacles they be found wanting. Overpriced fools buy that crappy truck.
the color is cool
I fcking love my Mojave and the stock capability is incredible. 6mt
Great vid! don't worry about the wondering, it's an easy fix
@bobbyg7552
10 ай бұрын
HOW?
@MonkeyBisnez
10 ай бұрын
@@bobbyg7552 You need to install a SteerSmart adjustable track bar between both front wheels. And if you want it even stiffer, go the extra mile, and install what is called a "Sector Shaft Brace With Frame Side Track Bar Reinforcement Bracket". Works like a charm
@MonkeyBisnez
10 ай бұрын
plenty videos about it
I do miss the Gecko color, but this willdo. Having said that, the Hydro blue is pretty and the firecracker red is a jeep classic! I am so tempted by this truck (2024 model has such nice upgrades ) and while I'm not sure if I want the higher speed at lower case or the front locker and sway bar disconnect. I'm leaning towards the later but the shocks on the Mojave from factory, is nice (also, the RUbi has better armor? so better rock crawler for a not so good driver like me?)
Although the sway bar is fixed that is the tierod you grabbed.
The Gladiators (both Rubi and Mojave) need the Extreme Recon or "X" package which includes upgraded rear axle, 35's, 4.56 gearing, steel bumpers, etc. A 4xE engine option could be added in 2024 instead of waiting until 2025. Jeep, make it happen!
@k0pper
Жыл бұрын
I hope we also see the Willys version come with a rear locker like they're doing on the 24 Wranglers. I think for most people having the Jeep 4x4 system and great off road angles + a rear locker is gonna handle like 95% of what the average user will encounter.
My gladiator doesn't seem to wander. It has the MOPAR 2 inch lift and 35 inch KO2s , its the Rubicon model. I can take my hands off of the steering wheel and the truck tracks straight.
Still mind blown they haven’t released a Wrangler Mohave
@ec-uploads
9 ай бұрын
Need the long wheelbase for high speed stability.
Good morning Steve n Howard
@TruckKing
Жыл бұрын
Morning!
The only thing I don’t like about the Falcon Wild Peaks is winter 😢
The main reason I bought a Gladiator is because I can take off the roof and doors. I do wish it had a better engine, the 3.6 is just adequate for the job. The Hurricane TT-6 would be a great option for this truck, even if the detuned it a bit.
I love the color
80 Canadian. 67 US$. Without all the options it'd be much less, as stellantis' model is to charge a ton for every little thing above the base trim. Either way, they are all a ton of money compared to just a short 4 years ago.
Take the top off the competition and how about the doors? What does that cost?
I love my Gladiator Mojave.
Id like to get one but i have 3 old 2nd gen dodges that are paid for.....i just cant see the where they get the pricing on these mid size trucks!
Just bored I'm a hobby yesterday. It was sitting on the lot along with a dozen others since May of 23. Got 15,000 off!
Great jeep, but I had no idea the Mojave comes with the Fox 2.5 shocks. Those suckers are about $1500 (American) per _corner_ so if you ever want to replace them you'll be paying a pretty penny.
@lagoonrd4173
Жыл бұрын
You can rebuild them … also 1500$ is for two shocks front or rear set
@peterc8979
Жыл бұрын
$2700 each Canadian, just did warranty claim
@ec-uploads
9 ай бұрын
$800 rebuild for all 4.
@boster8368
6 ай бұрын
just trade it in
Too expensive for what it is. Glad you said it straight up.
Came from a 2018 ZR2 to a 2022 Mojave and I agree, the Mojave is soooo much better. I thought I'd miss the front locker but the traction control works perfectly and I haven't needed it, yet.
@ec-uploads
9 ай бұрын
If you want the front locker the Rubicon e locker is easy to add.
@traviskimbrell1209
9 ай бұрын
I’d rather have the awesome suspension, steel knuckles and reinforced frame over a locker and sway bar disconnect I can easily add later. The only thing I wish I had from the rubicon is the cool hood lol.
I'ma bit sad that '24 model drops the diesel, I'd prever the powertrain of the 4Xe on the Gladiator, However, as much as I'd like more torque, the 3.6L is perfectly matched for this truck. The fact you can get manual if you want is awesome! No selexc-speed on manual though, so keep that in mind. I'm fine with that. THe "jeep wander" is... a jeep feature? quirk? a charasteristic I was used to on even my fairly more techy (for a jeep) 4Xe Wrangler. REfresh for '24 is nice truck. Increased payload (1700 as a RUbicon/Mojave) and also 7700 lb towoing on those models! SO, good job Jeep? Better interior too.
Jounce bumps are on the front
I like the Gladiator Mojave. I almost got rid of my 2016 Colorado for one. I just didn’t want to get a new truck payment since my Colorado is paid for. If you need your off road truck to tow, the Mojave has the best tow rating. The color is ok. Reminds me of the yellow fire truck color that was a trend for a while. My gut reaction is like yours, the price is too high!
@helmhamburgerhand
Жыл бұрын
Its definitely not cheap. Worth it... ehhh of all the trucks, yes. Are any of them really worth that much? Noooo
@dadventuretv2538
Жыл бұрын
Actually Mojave does not have the best tow rating- it is 6,000 lbs. Rubicon auto is 7,000 lbs and Sport S with Max Tow package is 7,650 lbs.
@davidgdraper6269
Жыл бұрын
I have a ‘22 Rubicon. It is rated higher for towing but let’s be realistic. If you are buying a midsized truck for mostly highway and towing, this is probably not your vehicle. I love my Rubicon but it was a hard choice between that and a Mojave. They are too expensive, but it seems everything has gone that way in the post COVID economies.
@garretlewis4103
Жыл бұрын
@@dadventuretv2538 I guess I should have been more specific. Compared to the ZR2, Ranger Raptor, and TRD Pro.
It was a big deal in the 1980's to get suspension like that on a motorcycle. It's hard to believe trucks are getting these qualities. They also get all the stuff cars get now.
I think people need to try out the other Jeeps every now and then because it's only the Wrangler and the Gladiator that have solid axles everything else has four wheel independent suspension and it doesn't wander at all. My cherokee Trailhawk is lifted and I could take my hands off the steering wheel for 15 seconds probably on the interstate and it wouldn't go anywhere.
@TruckKing
Жыл бұрын
When dad said "Jeeps," he definitely meant Wranglers and Gladiators, though he should have been more clear. Grand Cherokee, Cherokee, Wagoneer and even the Compass drive pretty nice going down the road.
Dad's right except for it's not just vehicles that's gone up a ridiculous amount just go to the grocery store, but as he said when the customer says that's far enough only then will the car companies & dealerships quit. Gas is the same, when the customer says that's enough only then will they quit gouging us.
oh an also the frame is beefier and better welds
The terrain is better suited for the Rubicon as Mojave is designed as a fast desert runner. Color is cool.
Lowering the tire pressure works like magic when it comes to the Mojave wandering
@ericburden578
Жыл бұрын
Which tires do you have and how far did you air down?
@JasonParham83
Жыл бұрын
@@ericburden578 I'm running 37" falken wildpeak at3w's. I have a Tazer so I adjusted my target pressure. I'm from 28-30. Depending on the temperature.
I’d appreciate aluminum skid plates.
Vehicle prices are ridiculously high especially for a depreciating asset and that’s including cost of ownership.
The one I'd get but at that price it's not really worth it
Hey man, didn't you use to be with TFL?