Absolutely agree with missed liftback opportunity

13:22 Alex breaks character and goes into Australian

If it was a hatchback and if it had smaller wheels on upper trims, I'd be very interested.

@slscamg

10 ай бұрын

If I buy a lower trim I’ll trade you my small wheels lol😂

South Koreans are kicking some serious EV butts

@firebir11

Жыл бұрын

they hired from bmw and other eurpean. companies

So nice to see both collaborating between each other. ❤. You guys are great reviewers

Wild warbling sound makes me think of a space ship from Planet X.

I really appreciate that they didn’t go in the whole ‘Let’s make this thing like a go-kart’ approach with the suspension. I adore the Tesla lineup but they went overkill with the rough suspension in previous years. Apparently the ride quality improved in the Model 3 and Y but still

@suserman7775

Жыл бұрын

I think the Model 3 new suspension is both fun to drive and comfortable. The Model Y....ummm....still rough, but not as bad as before.

@sprockkets

Жыл бұрын

Don't forget the fast steering ratio.

@suserman7775

Жыл бұрын

@@sprockkets Quite possibly my favorite thing about the Model 3.

@sprockkets

Жыл бұрын

@@suserman7775 To each their own. I've heard it's an absolute annoyance.

I’m glad I found your new channel love watching you😎

This takes the "range anxiety" out of the equation. I can plug in nightly on a regular plug and on weekends it will catch up. WORST case scenario I will have to go to a local level 2 charger to top it off, but why if I have that much range?

@laloajuria4678

Жыл бұрын

almost all evs currently do not have a range problem. they have an infrastructure problem.

@ScubaSteveCanada

Жыл бұрын

@@OpinionatedOG184 Doesn't negate the point of a poor charging infrastructure. Many black holes in my province at popular tourist areas - not good.

@user-ho2kr7nc6v

9 ай бұрын

If you have an Electrify America charging station near by where you live or work, Hyundai drivers get free charging there for two years!

Just test drove a RWD in Black Looks amazing! Much better than in pictures/videos😎

Battery preconditioning has been available on all Ioniq5 since about June 2022 and available as an update for the early AWD Ioniq5 since December 2022. The interesting thing is that the Ioniq6 launches with route planning including charging, which isn’t “officially” available on the Ioniq5 or EV6 (although it can be turned on). I like the improved efficiency of the Ioniq6 a lot, but I’m not sure its enough for me to overlook the appearance of it compared to my Ioniq5.

@jwxujerry

Жыл бұрын

I am hesitating because of the look. Ioniq 5 has the look for sure.

Damn that base extended range is $500 over the $45k cap to get the $4k discount here in Jersey

@xchopp

Жыл бұрын

We gotta ask for dealer discounts -- or is it based on the MRSP?

loving the design. also this color looks great

2:18 1978 Saab 900, and 1980 Chevrolet Citation, had a baby.

Regarding this versus the Model 3, the Model 3 definitely has its advantages. They have been making EVs for over a decade, not a year or two. The Performance model has tax credits, a national Supercharger network, and outstanding resale value. The Ioniq 6 is better looking, with a more upscale appearance, inside and out, and incredible rear legroom, warranty, and a real dealer network, for service issues. If you don't want to be just another guy in a Model 3, the Ioniq 6 is worthy of your consideration.

@sprockkets

Жыл бұрын

So what? Their first ev still sucks with build quality, the new 3/y have a chassis that can't be repaired, the 4860 battery pack is sealed and not repairable, and their advantage of their charging network is also not a factor since they are installing adapters for every other vehicle to use. Oh and their resale value tanked in the past few months.

This 2024 Ioniq 6 looks better than model 3! Efficient, roomy rear seat, fast charging, over the air update, and most important, well built!

@heinuchung8680

Жыл бұрын

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. It looks like an iguana to me

@nympho25

Жыл бұрын

​@@heinuchung8680 u dont like iguanas? 😂

Totally the best looking EV sedan in my never to be humble opinion.

This gives me 4 door 911 vibes.🎉

I bought a 2023 Ioniq 6 SEL which came with the 20 rims. I bought a set of the fast ev 18" rims and Pirelli tires. My range is now between 306 and 370.

I wonder if it would have been hard to have the hinges for a lift back and maintain the shape.

@CumBrianFries

Жыл бұрын

Not hard at all, just lazy engineering.

@gregkramer5588

Жыл бұрын

@@CumBrianFries It takes space, they have to be strong ridged hinges near where your head is and where it is arguellaby to tight already.

When do we get an ionic 6 real world range test? I am trying to decide between the 5 and 6. I love the extra range of the 6 s but it sure looks funky.

The rear design begs a lift-back which surprises me they would go against the grain on this design.

Long iguana styling begins !

It looks nice I like it ! Price?

Great analysis as usual, Alex. That horrible spoiler in the rear... is it removable?

@ScubaSteveCanada

Жыл бұрын

Only in rear end accidents ;-)

Even the front seat is claustrophobic in the Polestar 2

If you have $90k to spend, get a Lucid. 400 mile range and in the Lucid, the AC does not affect the range!! That is huge.......plus, it is a rocket. Like us, if $90k was a bit much for your first EV, get the SE Long Range Hyundai.........we love ours.

This seems like its designed to go after the A3 in that size category, sort of a sub-compact where the 3 is a compact.

You did not talk about the route planner that has changing

No heads-up display?

On the test drive I heard a drone sound. Is that something optional that's artificially piped through the Hi-Fi speakers like Lexus on some models ? or is it coming from the tyres?

@EVBuyersGuide

2 ай бұрын

The Ioniq 6 has available "EV engine sounds" and my guess is that's what you were hearing. -Travis

Alex, can you comment on the blurred line between luxury and regular cars, resulting from EVs? For around ~$50k I can get Ioniq 6 or BMW 3 series which have very different interior feels (materials) and dealership experiences. Then a longer range base i4 starts at $57k. The price spread has gotten way more compressed between brands.

@user-ho2kr7nc6v

9 ай бұрын

We got $9500 off our SE Long Range.

We have an SE Long Range, and we have gotten 388 miles at 94% charge. Real mileage.

Alex with his hood up was looking like the evil kermit meme 😂

Absolutely beautiful car, especially in red or green

@Noah_E

Жыл бұрын

If you ignore the rip-off J30 melted jelly bean rear that annihilates cargo capacity while simultaneously making it the ugliest vehicle in Hyundai's entire lineup. Whatever fraction of a mile it extends the range, it isn't worth it. The rear should be significantly taller, so it has a usable trunk. 11.2 cu ft is pathetic.

@laloajuria4678

Жыл бұрын

hard to be blind these days.

I've been following the rollout of this car for months, and so far I've not seen a single photo or video of the front end with a North American sized license plate affixed. If someone has a link to such a photo, please post it in reply to this comment. I'm wondering where it attaches so that it doesn't affect either the forward-facing sensors or the air intake louvers. Thanks!

@lbrwnie

Жыл бұрын

Don't know if it's the same but if you search ioniq 6 Australia there is a bunch of footage from press with the aus front license plate on it

@mindfulskills

Жыл бұрын

@@lbrwnie Thanks, Liam, but I just looked, and the dimensions of the Australian license plate are not the same as the U.S.

@suserman7775

Жыл бұрын

Just move to a State that isn't communist.

@TheCapn23

Жыл бұрын

I never put a front license plate on my vehicles even though it's legally required in my state. I've never been pulled over or hassled about it from law enforcement.

@suserman7775

Жыл бұрын

@@TheCapn23 That's interesting. I didn't know someone could get away with that.

Redline and Alex in the same video, what is this, a crossover episode? 😅😅😂

This versus BMW i4 e35?

Looks nice! Hope hyundai can get to making something shorter in the future though

@ScubaSteveCanada

Жыл бұрын

They designed for a longer range. If shorter, they can't put the same battery pack in, it too has to be shortened. Not a problem for city driving but could be for road trips; the charging infrastructure needs to expand rapidly and be reliable.

That key fob looks like an Ali Express generic replacement.

We really love our Polestar 2, but I can see why someone would prefer this. I do think the infotainment software is better in the P2.

@laloajuria4678

Жыл бұрын

your p2 looks so much better thats for sure.

@user-ho2kr7nc6v

9 ай бұрын

361 mile range vs. 250 mile range?

Staying dry? Hmmmm no . . . mixed rain and snow in the Inland NW.

Alex, If Hyundai or anyone else want to 'bring back the sedan' they need to provide generous rear seat headroom to go along with the legroom. The mass adoption of the nonsensical CLS swooping profile has coincided with tanking sedan sales across the industry. 🤨

@Noah_E

Жыл бұрын

I have a 95 lbs bluetick and 65 lbs black and tan hound that go most places me and am currently fostering a lemon hound. I would never subject them or a human to such a low roofline. Plus, the rear is easily the ugliest in Hyundai's entire lineup.

@sprockkets

Жыл бұрын

It's only nonsensical if you don't want efficiency.

Great review. Can they make it less ugly in the back??

@stevendegreef93

Жыл бұрын

Especially in the front too! Dated design !!!!

It looks like a Porsche in the rear and a Tiburon in the front

That looks like Tucson or Maybe Sierra Vista where I am

M3 project “Highland” may increase the size and change the looks. Right now I will just advise people to buy M3. The car just works, software/OTA updates , supercharger etc

Fast charging and range are the most important things for me they can look dope it could be fast but if it goes under 200 miles as far as range and takes an hour to charge just to 80% no bueno

@sprockkets

10 ай бұрын

Good news, you'll get over 300 miles on the hwy with this and charge back in 20 minutes.

I have a 2023 duel motor AWD First edition. But only get 255 miles showing on the range when 100% charged. I love the car, but disappointed in the range

@EVBuyersGuide

6 ай бұрын

Has it always showed 255 miles of range or is this something that set in after driving it for awhile? -Travis

@mikeroth7080

6 ай бұрын

Switch to the fast ev 18" wheels, makes a big difference. Smoother ride with the 18's and much longer range.

@steveoley2956

4 ай бұрын

@@EVBuyersGuide yes within 2-3 miles. I drive it very steady in eco mode too.

2024 looks like an Ioniq 6 vs. Polestar 2 year for us, if our 208k-mile Prius finally dies (fingers crossed lol).

The profile looks like a 4 door Audi TT

My main issue with EV'S, is range. I drive 100 miles a day to and from work. My Genesis G70 3.3T, I can commute 3 1/2 days. If an EV can do the same ,I'm interested.!

@user-ho2kr7nc6v

9 ай бұрын

Our I6 SE Long Range can probably go 400 miles on a full charge, and charging is free for two years from Hyundai.

I think I would actually go for the 361 mile version. When I visit family I will be relying on 110v charging for the time I spend there for the most part. I would like the AWD version in a way but the upper two trims seems to be a bit too much for the extra features.

@laloajuria4678

Жыл бұрын

we lived off a 120V plug for 2 yrs almost. its fine.

@gregkramer5588

Жыл бұрын

@@laloajuria4678 If it was at home I could. The problem is when I visit family I want to visit all my other friends in the area too.

@LittleAnastasia...

Жыл бұрын

Max range. I'd prefer the long range knowing I'd never reach that mark. 300ish while using heat and ac is what I would be happy with.

Quoting the actual size of the trunk would have been nice, so I could compare against my current vehicle. That might be the one area where the Ioniq 5 meets my needs and this vehicle does not. ETA: Trunk size is mentioned in the drive section as 11.2 cubic feet. That is too small for my needs, so a disappointment.

Would the rear fit 3 car seats? 🤔

@laloajuria4678

Жыл бұрын

in a pinch with certain brands......maybe.

The 360-mile range must be the rear-wheel drive variant w/ large motors.

@slscamg

10 ай бұрын

Yes. Big battery pack. RWD and 18” wheels.

Room for a Genesis version?

@EVBuyersGuide

6 ай бұрын

The Genesis Electrified G80 is in a similar size category but it's a very different kind of sedan with a much larger price tag. I don't see Genesis building a lower price, lower margin sedan that competes with ones they already make. -Travis

23:00.... model 3 performance thats the price u pay plus tax....the hyundai from a dealer, with their markups, and xtra fees?....who knows!?

I live in arizona and I want that car bring it by I'll trade you my Ioniq Hybrid

Alex, great video as always, very comprehensive and informative. Hyundai Ioniq 6, great vehicle, EXCEPT for that rear end styling. It looks like it's dragging it's butt. Everything else about the vehicle is great. The rear end styling is a deal breaker for me. I believe KIA got the styling just right with the EV 6, and FORD got the styling right with the MUSTANG MACH E.

@laloajuria4678

Жыл бұрын

can we stop with the maga typing here?

I like cars. I would get this over the Ioniq 5 just because I don't want an SUV. And for 360 miles of range that price is a steal! If I didn't just buy a car, this would be on the top of my list. Assuming dealerships don't try to price gouge me 🙄

@user-ho2kr7nc6v

9 ай бұрын

Giving $9500 off.....plus a CA clean air rebate of like $2500.

@mikeroth7080

6 ай бұрын

The 360 range is with the SE which is a stripped down version of the 6. No leather interior

If I buy will the battery last million miles? I will give to my grand kids

360 miles of range? 10 to 80% and 18 minutes definitely doable

I like it except for the truck; making it a deal breaker for me

The problem with this 6 where I live in Canada is the price! After rebates the base Ionic 6 is 50% more money then the Prius Prime SE which offers more trunk space, gas heat and 900 km gas range for winter trips will be more then double the range of the top Ionic.

🚘💯👍

The side and rear view of the car is interesting. The front view is boring. The Lidar sensor may not work well in snowy climates?? Once again, priced higher than an ICE. It would be interesting to see the improvement in ICE vehicles mpg if the aerodynamics they build into EV’s was built into ICE. I would not even consider a Polestar since it is built in China. From your review the Ionic 6 seems to be overall a nicer car than the Polestar anyway.

Bring back something that has existed for several years now with the Model 3? Sorry but I just had to react to the clickbait lol.

Raise you hand if you've fast charged at a CCS location and a Tesla location. I have; and in general I'd say that longer-range non-Teslas don't really make much sense to me. Longer range non-Teslas only have an advantage if you have a very specific trip where you have your own charging right before the limit of your range. My hunch is that for LONG trips with multiple re-charges along the way, a Telsa with 300 mile range will have a shorter trip time than a non-Tesla with 360 miles of range.

@ALMX5DP

Жыл бұрын

How much shorter of a trip time do you envision?

@suserman7775

Жыл бұрын

@@ALMX5DP Not sure how much shorter, but the point is you're getting nothing with the 60 extra miles of the non-Tesla because charging it will be a miserable and time-consuming endeavor.

@ALMX5DP

Жыл бұрын

@@suserman7775 if you’re not sure how much shorter, how are you able to say it’ll be miserable and time consuming?

@suserman7775

Жыл бұрын

@@ALMX5DP I've personally DC fast charged my Kia EV6 many times. The car performs flawlessly, the charging network DOESN'T. It's pathetic. The number of times there has been a problem with either a) the "login" b) the number of functional stations, or c) the kW delivery of a "functional" station is too long to count.

@ALMX5DP

Жыл бұрын

@@suserman7775 sure, it's definitely a slower progression than Tesla's superchargers. Though the superchargers are ramping up in their ability to charge CCS cars, so that network will soon be able to accommodate cars like the EV6 (especially V4 units with higher voltage throughput).

At 7.2 0 to 60 it needs to be over 450 miles. Woof woof what a dog.

@SlavGuns

Жыл бұрын

Actually these are much faster than rated. These are on par or as fast as Model 3…. Except performance. Those are just super quick.

@ericjohnson3967

Жыл бұрын

@Slav Guns Not the one that gets 361 miles. It's a rear wheel drive.

The EV range is still going to two hundred something in Northern Tier states with colder climates for at least 5 months out of the year. When some vehicle manufacturer builds us an EV with 400 miles of range with the heater on and maybe we will get excited.

In five years this car will cost $30k.

After the Lucid Air of course.....

@EVBuyersGuide

Жыл бұрын

Actually it ties with the air

that is one of the ugliest keys i've ever seen, what is this 2004?

361 miles of range in a rwd 4,300#+car with 201 hp for nearly 50k without markups or taxes in 2023? 😂 Then hyundai themselves say 85% of buyers will choose the 20" wheels which knocks the highest range trim available down to 305 miles. Meanwhile the most commonly sold awd trims will weigh up to 4,600# and get just 270 miles of range for 55-57k+ and no tax credit. 👍🏻 And other real world reviews in mild Cali show just 2.9-3.3 miles per kwh driving efficiency. With a 77.4kwh gross pack you are at 200-220 real world miles of range in the top trim heavy as heck awd spec on 20" wheels.

@SlavGuns

Жыл бұрын

I had the AWD for an extended test drive and was over 4 miles per kWh

0:34 Hyundai was trying even lower and they achieved 0.19cd. However, for obvious reasons, Hyundai settled at 0.21cd.

@aliendroneservices6621

Жыл бұрын

0.19Cd without side mirrors?

@muyaho420

Жыл бұрын

@@aliendroneservices6621 With digital sideview mirrors. They're only available in Korea.

Not to mention it’s likely to go down in history as one of the ugliest cars ever made.

That 360 mile range melts away on a long trip that you need preconditioning. You'd lose 10% or so to speed losses, then you need to precondition above 20% so you need to turn it on at 25 which uses more range, and can only fast charge to 80. If the weather isn't perfect you'd lose another 10%... So you have a real world usable 50% of your rated range and suddenly you're needing to charge every 180miles. That's before your battery loses some range over the years...

@suserman7775

Жыл бұрын

But how would each of those factors compare with other cars?

@Snerdles

Жыл бұрын

@@suserman7775 EVs, they all work like that. The range ratings are complete marketing BS. In my PHEV my 900km range would drop about 20% to about 720km, which is far more than you drive at any one point and it 'charges' in 5 minutes.

@EVBuyersGuide

Жыл бұрын

That math just doesn’t match real world numbers unless you’re driving in a snow storm

@Snerdles

Жыл бұрын

@@EVBuyersGuide Now there is a test for EVs, go out driving and get just at 10%, fast charge it to 80%, then drive it back down to 10% at highway speed and record the actual real world expectations rather than these EPA fantasy numbers.

@EVBuyersGuide

Жыл бұрын

@@Snerdles and that’s exactly what we do with every new EV, have you checked out our range tests?

No AR HUD! 😭

The way that car looks is a travesty. Why did they have to make it so damn ugly? Stuff like this will age poorly and look terrible in a few years

Umm - the Model S still wins in range, and there are no chargers for the Hyundai… so good luck road-tripping and hunting for 65kwh 3rd party CCS chargers that will take 2 hours to charge the car.

@SlavGuns

Жыл бұрын

Heh? There are tons of non Tesla fast chargers out there… and this is half the price of a model S.

@modlife

Жыл бұрын

@@SlavGuns there are tons of level 2 chargers, which are very slow, yes. I drive 4-5k miles a month in a Tesla, I’m very familiar with the landscape. It’s improving, but we’re not there yet for other manufacturers.

It looks like a Citroen, and that’s not a good thing. Hyundai/Kia seem to be flailing wildly with their designs, throwing out a bunch of crazy designs with no coherent design language and hoping something will stick.

Who would believe that it gets 361 miles if you're lucky you might get 225 on a good day don't you hate when manufacturers and their promoters lie to you

@EVBuyersGuide

Жыл бұрын

Clearly you haven’t driven it, but oddly enough I have 😂

Calling 11.2 cu ft of cargo "on the small side" is laughable. It's unacceptable. The Model 3 has more than double the capacity (22.9 cu ft). Sedans are a dying breed so they have to be great to sell. The rear of the Ioniq 6 is a fail. Other than the better visibility, people buy SUVs for the interior and cargo space. They made the roof and trunk too short and the battery pack cuts into the trunk making cargo space too small and rear headroom too low. The melted rear looked bad on the Infiniti J30, and this is even worse. Hopefully the second generation won't look like a melted jellybean.

@anderspedersen542

Жыл бұрын

Wow. I guess you better just buy another car then.

@falkin42

Жыл бұрын

I don't agree with your aesthetic opinion. I want aerodynamics.

@DANNYMAND1

3 ай бұрын

I find the design both sleek and unique. And I relish that efficiency. Spend time in my son's Ioniq 6 and with outstanding build quality, Hyundai has a clear winner here.

@Noah_E

3 ай бұрын

@DANNYMAND1 sleek, yes. Unique, not so much. There are several several models from Nissan and the Oldsmobile Aurora with similar shapes. One thing it certainly isn't is pretty. A grey one passed my house about once a week while I'm out walking my dogs, and a chiropractor in town has a white one. They both ugly and the grey one is surprisingly loud for an EV. A neighbor's ID.4 makes almost no noise going by, but the tires on the Ioniq 6 roar like a half-ton truck and it makes a strange artificial woosh sound.

Well Alex, since you asked,...the sloping rear section needs to go. Give me a full-size sedan that has a proper squared-off rear window and trunk that you can have a spare tire, two golf bags and still have space for some more stuff and then they will be on the right path. This is the 21st Century, you can't tell me that we don't have the technology to do what I wrote above AND still get 300+ miles of EV range. These designers need to stop being afraid to use brute force to achieve performance goals. As we used to say, the F-101 Voodoo and F-4 Phantom II are proof that with enough engine thrust, even a brick will fly. So get on it engineers! Give us a proper EV land yacht like the 1969 Lincoln Continental Mark III. 😎