Can Syntakt + Controller Substitute Vermona and Octatrack ?
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I keep falling in love with Elektron Syntakt. This little box offer a great power and fun.
You might know that the Vermona Perfourmer MKII + Octatrack MKII is my long time favorite combo, with the only issue of the size ( too big for some gigs), so I wanted to recreate a similar setup/workflow using Syntakt plus a controller. Limiting myself using only 4 voices ( 3 of them can be analog dual VCOs) and using the Shik n32b as a 4 row controller I managed to find a very cool way to create and improvise.
This little setup has a lot of potential, with a few things missing from my main one: no arpeggiator and no scale quantization when you put trigs down and select notes with the knob ( please Elektron fix that!!!).
I am adding the beautiful Meris LVX at the output, it sounds just great.
I will also compare the workflow to the octatrack and Vermona , to show you the main differences.
Enjoy!
00:00 Intro Jam
00:01 Introduction
04:23 Overview of the setup
09:45 How I mapped the Shik N32b midi controller
14:04 The 2 issues I found
19:30 The workflow on Octatrack and Vermona Perfourmer
22:56 More jam on the Syntakt
28:10 Conclusions
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Really really hope Elektron sees this video and does something about the quantized note entry issue you pointed out. That's how I work too and would really love for the knob to stay in scale when changing a note.
@OoraMusic
Жыл бұрын
it would be GAMECHANGER
@tovermoran4360
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely!
Wonderful video! You create some lovely arps in your videos, especially in this one. I'll be adding the Syntakt to my setup soon.
@OoraMusic
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!!
Yes! Thank you for making these workflow videos, I find them very useful. I'm gradually forging a live setup and MIDI control is so confusing for me (as I want to use the setup for sound design too) but I will take onboard your comments about not making things too complicated with MIDI controllers. Also, you mention the Syntakt does not have an arpeggiator. Well the QuNexus now has three separate ones as well as the simple sequencers! Polymeter is very easy on it and you might find it useful. I know the red is not a great match to most setups but the used ones in black are sometimes less than the K-Board new price, and they all have the same hardware. There is also a MIDI DIN out converter cable available to bypass the extra USB hardware. It was too much postage cost for me in UK but I think they'll be available in Europe soon. Keep up the great vibe :)
@OoraMusic
Жыл бұрын
Hey thanks! great info about the q nexus, I think I might get one!!
Great video! Looks like an inspiring setup. Thanks for your thoughts.
@OoraMusic
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
For me the lack of arpeggiator is solved entirely + then some with the Arturia Keystep's super-capable arp.
very inspiring, thank you for your way of making music
@OoraMusic
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for listening
The sound between the PerFOURmer and the Syntakt is striking!
@OoraMusic
Жыл бұрын
Yes, the perfourmer is made just for that and is gorgeous!
That was an amazing video. Thank you very much! I learned a lot from how you translated your workflow and sound to the syntakt. I wonder if this video was partially inspired by my comment on your Laguna piece?
@OoraMusic
Жыл бұрын
Yes was not the first time someone asked so I decided to try it , with great results!
Great comparison ! I own both the syntakt and OT myself and I’ll absolutely try to make a track using four voices like this 👍👍 I have my modular gear going into the syntakt for overdrive, reverb and delay and then syntakt into OT. I then sample and manipulate sounds on the OT. Like you in sequence fro the OT and thought initially that I’d use the ST only to offload the percussion. Thanks for sharing , will play with my controller and try a four track and modular jam 😀😀
@OoraMusic
Жыл бұрын
thanks for your kind words. I am trying to use octa as sequencer for Syntakt, and is pretty awesome!
Sequencing the Syntakt with the Octatrack midi channels also works very well. You get ARP and quantised scales. And when you like the sequence you live record into the ST. Have been playing with this for a while and it’s quite nice. Can be a bit confusing at first with sequencing on both devices.
@OoraMusic
Жыл бұрын
I am experimenting with it right now! definitely powerful
Thanks for the great video. Was waiting for this kind of comparison. It is amazing that the OT is still King. I wonder why Elektron leftout these quantization features on the other machines.
@OoraMusic
Жыл бұрын
Good question!
I’ve sort of hit my head against this wall when working with the Octatrack and Digitone: with Octatrack doing some sequencing but wanting to be able to perform or input more notes on the Digitone live. Wouldn’t say I’ve perfected it but something I found very helpful was a MIDI controller with quantisation there - making up for the way the Digi boxes handle these things and knowing I’ll be in key.
@OoraMusic
Жыл бұрын
I just tried to sequence the ST with the OT, its great. Id love the ST to have the same sequencing capability..
Very musical! That’s always good.
@OoraMusic
Жыл бұрын
thanks!
Thanks for the video. I’m playing and slowly getting used to elektron-style sequencers, but my Keystep Pro still has functions that I can’t miss like the HOLD button, ARP copy to sequence, infinite scales, 3 MIDI ports plus 4 modular sync, voct and gate connections.
@OoraMusic
Жыл бұрын
I need to try one key step!
This is great. Electron should definitely add those features to all the takt boxes. I’d love to see a follow up video where you use the same small setup but connect the performer as an external synth too :)
@OoraMusic
Жыл бұрын
Great idea!
Complimenti x il video, veramente istruttivo e completo, peccato che non ho il tuo setup però i tuoi video mi fanno venire una voglia 😅😅😅
@OoraMusic
Жыл бұрын
grazie!!
Thanks for this cool video! I've been trying to recreate your OT + Perfourmer setup with affordable means for a while now. The ST is a great option here. Especially with the nice external midi controller. With this setup, would it be possible to include the OT as a midi sequencer for the ST? Does that work with the Kenton device? I am really a big fan of your very inspiring videos. Thanks again!
@OoraMusic
Жыл бұрын
I actually hooked the octatrack to the Syntakt and is easy to use it as sequencer and sample player, that might be the evolution of the setup!
4 versatile voices, Elektron sequencer, arpeggiator... How come the Digitone hasn't stolen your heart already? :)
@OoraMusic
Жыл бұрын
I am not familiar with FM...
@DrSaff
Жыл бұрын
@@OoraMusic Fair enough. From an outsider's perspective, it sounds like it would suit your style quite well. I'll be hoping to see it one day on your channel. Thanks, and keep up with the good work!
@kerchanga
Жыл бұрын
@@OoraMusic you don’t need to know FM to use the Digitone. It has been simplified, no ratios that can go too mad, very comprehensible especially with your experience. You’d love it, very versatile sounds in a compact box.
@INFINITYREALM
Жыл бұрын
You’d do amazing things with it. Check out Substan’s Digitone tracks.
Very interesting setup and Thanks for the great videos! Btw, on an unrelated note, can I ask you what filter do you apply to your videos? I like how the colors on your videos look less saturated and modern :)
@OoraMusic
Жыл бұрын
No filter! I use davinci resolve and do some cc, very basic!
@samanm
Жыл бұрын
That's good to know! Your videos are really dope! May I also ask what cameras you use?
Hi frederico, sounds really good! Inwas wondering if you tried it with the T-1 or the Oxi to sequence the Syntakt? I guess it could solve your quantizing issue.
@OoraMusic
Жыл бұрын
yes I did , but was hoping to minimize the things to have!
The intro sure sounded amazing! ☺️
@OoraMusic
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
Very tempted to return my Syntakt within the window Thomann has offered. And buy a Vermona instead
Really cool moment at 26:42 when you add the drums
@OoraMusic
Жыл бұрын
thanks!
How could I control the levels of all 20 tracks of my Digitakt and Syntakt with the N32B on 1 preset? Thanks!!!
Hi, Does the new firmware update on Syntakt with scale mode give the quantized note solution you need for your workflow?
@OoraMusic
Жыл бұрын
Sadly it doesn't seem so
I've been looking for a suitable controller for syntakt for a long time. this one looks really chic and has enough knobs for you to control. i think i will try it. do you happen to get a discount code for us? your videos are always very inspiring. can we see and hear you live in Berlin?
@OoraMusic
Жыл бұрын
Glad I could help! Sadly no code at the moment, and yes I will be in Berlin in September ( vacation in Italy now!)
cool video again! short question: how did you connect the k-board to the syntakt? and also the midi controller? both should go in the midi in port (and k-board is usb midi?)
@OoraMusic
Жыл бұрын
im using a Kenton little box that merge the usb to midi out!
@tendingtropic7778
Жыл бұрын
@@OoraMusic oh great, ofcourse. did you connect both the k-board and the midi-controller usb to it? or do you need 2 kenton boxes
@originalsynth
Жыл бұрын
@@tendingtropic7778 Hi, sorry to butt in but I have used the Kenton USB Host mk2 with a passive USB hub to get 4 MIDI controllers working! I have used powered USB hubs as well for more power-hungry gadgets, but had no problems with low powered controllers just getting power from the Kenton. It looks like there's a Mk3 Kenton box too, which might be better. Hope this helps :)
@tendingtropic7778
Жыл бұрын
@@originalsynth thanks for the info, so that mean I'd need both a usb hub and the kenton host.
I missed the name of the MIDI used for merging MIDI signal...san someone help?
@PabloOrtegaMusic
Жыл бұрын
Kenton
Sheesh, the Syntakt sounds great, but then you play the vermona and it's night and day. The vermona hardware is priceless.
@gillescafedjian1381
Жыл бұрын
Total agree with you. Everything sound cool alone. But when you compare with the perfourmer....There are some synths on the market that just can't be replaced.
@OoraMusic
Жыл бұрын
I have to agree
@ghyslainthomastroscher8811
Жыл бұрын
nothing can replace the vermona 🌞
if you don't loop, there are a lot of things that can substitute an octatrack 😊
@OoraMusic
Жыл бұрын
but I love octa mixing possibilities !!
what's superfishen ? 3:20
@OoraMusic
Жыл бұрын
so proficient :D