I’ve trained with some Shaolin guys. They were amazing fighters, but that’s because their focus was Sanda and they regularly fought and competed in Sanda competitions. However, those who don’t spar and don’t drill their moves on opponents will never be good fighters. You can’t fight if you never fight.

@brooklynmonk1

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that is the point I made. The sanda tract fighters are great. But the Wushu tract, the monk tract, those guys are useless. But Tagou, the big sanda school at Shaolin is one of the leading producers of sanda champions in China.

@Mharriscreations

5 жыл бұрын

@Nalle puhyou don't need to know how to fight to defend yourself it's true, but it absolutely helps and it's way easier to defend yourself if you've sparred and fought before, because you'll recognize and be able to counter their attacks etc. If you want to defend yourself well, its almost foolish not to spar really. I mean, if you aren't used to being hit, you might freeze up in a self defense situation, but sparring and fighting will make it so the likelihood of that happening is much lower.

@Mharriscreations

5 жыл бұрын

@Nalle puh Ah, that makes sense. I do believe sparring is great, but constant hard sparring can be damaging and have negative effects sometimes. What really matters is just making sure you're practicing your moves or forms against partners who are putting up realistic resistance.

@markmaxwell8685

5 жыл бұрын

Sanda and San Shou are both Mixed Martial Arts in essence...He should try fighting one of them

@myutuber100

5 жыл бұрын

How are they goog fighters if they can't fight

Are we not going to talk about the fact, that Ramsey is looking like he is sitting in a refrigerated warehouse, while Antonio is just in regular clothes?

@patximartel

5 жыл бұрын

He looks classy af

@deadfr0g

5 жыл бұрын

MANS NOT HOT.

@brooklynmonk1

5 жыл бұрын

My fat keeps me warm. I think because Ramsey is leaner, he had to bundle up.

@sapinva

5 жыл бұрын

Antonio is fat, err portly, err stout.

@jerometruitt1452

5 жыл бұрын

smokers are always cold....

Jokes on you my level 3 dragonborn monk does 1d8+4 unarmed damage against living targets

@jessecollins3652

5 жыл бұрын

38 38 Wrong Dragonborn.

@thomrik

5 жыл бұрын

38 38 if he says d8 i have to imagine he is talking about dnd, not skyrim

@ragnarokgaming7802

5 жыл бұрын

@38 38 dnd is dungeons and dragons, and dragon born is a race in dungeons and dragons. Hence the 1d8+4, which is referring to dice, and the monk which is a class in dnd.

@TaylorMorgeson

5 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣

@colonelkenpachi5009

5 жыл бұрын

NUBE I have Tortle Monk that can cut a mountain in half with only his head. And is only Level 5.

The guy on the left looks like he has offers one can't refuse. Good stuff.

@jaggeriscoughmedicine

5 жыл бұрын

Is that from the godfather??

@oz_jones

5 жыл бұрын

"I will make you a MMA fighter and you are going to like it!"

@austinhagston2517

5 жыл бұрын

He looks like Jacob Frye from assassins creed, or Robert deniro in The Godfather part 2

@pranakhan

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the guy definitely has one of those faces and demeanors that would make me automatically teach him everything I know... (This was an attempt at sarcastic humor. The original creator of the comment will not be held liable for misinterpretations that may arise from the application of sarcasm in written form).

@youtubecomments5951

5 жыл бұрын

No idiots can’t refuse. I give the offers

*I didn't know Ramsey Dewey was a peaky blinder*

@sharadowasdr

5 жыл бұрын

He gets it from his mother who is British :D

@weirdscience8341

5 жыл бұрын

I got booed out the front room when i said id do aunt whats hsr name what an odd but great show love it

@chanceshoemaker6332

4 жыл бұрын

@internet ! Peaky blinders were a street gang in england that wore similat attire, like the flat caps and overcoats. They were pretty much englands version of the mobsters in new york in the early 19th century

@caitgems1

4 жыл бұрын

He looks like a used car salesman.

@chanceshoemaker6332

4 жыл бұрын

@@YearsOVDecay1 Right. I've never seen the show though, I was just making the comparison to mobsters because although they mainly focused on robberies and pickpocketing they still had somewhat of a light hierarchy that delt with political control and bookmaking

why does ramsey look like a private detective

@entendjale6099

5 жыл бұрын

I'm saying. lol

@NostalgicTribe

5 жыл бұрын

That's Sherlock Ramsey

@aaptai3640

5 жыл бұрын

He sounds like one too

@marvl5089

5 жыл бұрын

He investigates fraudsters in martial atrs.

@marvl5089

5 жыл бұрын

*arts

Shaolin monks don't train to defeat anyone... They don't have to fight anyone. They train to defeat them selves. To grow personally... The develop their character.

@neutrino78x

5 жыл бұрын

well except for the ones who practice the Sanda sparring. They're training to use traditional Kung Fu to defeat other fighters. :)

@ghost_of_a_dead_poet

5 жыл бұрын

@@neutrino78x Yeah I actually saw yesterday... That shaolin monks actually do fight sometimes. You're right.

@ghost_of_a_dead_poet

5 жыл бұрын

@MrBrenman21 Kung Fu is for personal development. Not for learning to beat someone up. That's not the main goal of it. If you wanna be good at beating someone up, don't do martial arts... Just go and beat someone up... Everyday, and you'll be good at it. That's what prepares you for real life situation. Not martial arts.

@ghost_of_a_dead_poet

5 жыл бұрын

@MrBrenman21 they are somehow applicable, but I'd doesn't work most of the time. You have to apply them in order to make use of them.

@ghost_of_a_dead_poet

5 жыл бұрын

@MrBrenman21 I think the techniques don't work most of the time... They are not reliable. For example knife defense is total BS in my opinion. You'll just get stabbed if don't practice with rubber knife and an opponent who is actually trying to stab you as fast as he can.

Throwing a Shaolin monk into an octagonal cage is like asking Jet Li to fight MMA, there is basically no chance of winning.

Every place should have its own discount monk

@Catubrannos

5 жыл бұрын

Isn't a discount monk just another name for a wino?

They’re on-point with the psychological aspect of fighting. I tried boxing for the first time a few months ago and I lost because I couldn’t bring myself to forcefully punch my opponent. I was too worried about not hurting him that I was getting knocked around as a result. Real fighting is not a joke.

Yi Long is not a monk. He's a kickboxer in a costume with a gimmick. Much like the Iron Sheik was not actually a royal sheik, but rather a working class man who became a popular professional wrestler with an attention grabbing gimmick. Yi Long was self-trained in Shandong, China, he was not a monk at the shaolin temple in Henan. Yi Long has never done an MMA fight. He is a kickboxer, not an MMA fighter. Also, listen to UFC Fighter Dan Hardy's experience training at the Shaolin temple and why he didn't come back: kzread.info/dash/bejne/pqpsutiEk6fMhNo.html

@adityagujral7865

5 жыл бұрын

Do you have a student who has practiced shaolin martial arts and if you do can you upload some sparring footage with him/her

@RamseyDewey

5 жыл бұрын

@@adityagujral7865 Not presently. But go check out Antonio's channel. He trained extensively at the Shaolin temple. You can check out some of his fights and sparring there.

@adityagujral7865

5 жыл бұрын

@@RamseyDewey Thanks

@eddieyutub

5 жыл бұрын

There are no more true “martial monks” in the Shaolin Temple anymore. These days, Shaolin “monks” train for performance, not combat. In the old days, Shaolin monks were renowned for their combat prowess. This can be proven just by looking at the number of times the Shaolin temple has been burned to the ground, the most recent during the Warlord era. Petty tyrants feared the martial abilities of the monks, and tried to destroy the temple whenever they could. The most famous documentation of Shaolin’s martial prowess was in Tang dynasty, when 13 warrior monks rescued the future Emperor of Tang from his enemy. The Emperor reward the Shaolin Temple by formally recognizing their right to keep warriors. This right was otherwise reserved for the state and for noble houses. A number of those 13 monks went on to become generals in the Tang army. An especially interesting fact was that during the Warlord era (1920s), the Shaolin Temple actually equipped its monks with guns to defend the temple. This shows that traditionally, the Shaolin Temple was first concerned with real combat, and not just martial arts traditions. Unfortunately, this act attracted the wrath of a powerful warlord, who burned the temple to the ground. It would not be rebuilt until the end of the Cultural Revolution. 2.8k Views · View Upvoters Upvote· 1617 Share Comment... RecommendedAll Sponsored by The Motley Fool This legalization stock could be like buying Amazon for $3.19. This est. $50 billion industry is still anyone’s game. Here’s what we recommend. Learn More  Victor Wang, Past National President at Junior Chamber International (2015-present) Answered Apr 24, 2017 There is actually an excellent answer by Boh Yap. But I’ll like to add on to this with my own thoughts. My own brother went up there for about a year if I could recall, he came back pretty buff. Now the issue is that he didn’t have enough to time to fully commit himself with life getting in the way and all. Having said that, I’ve been up Shaolin Temple a couple of times, and the only question I have is this, If the MMA fighters were so confident in their ability, why wouldn’t they walk up to the temple and just challenge them outright? Of course, because the monks are supposed to have mental discipline, they are not likely to be provoked into a fight. But there will be others with slightly less mental discipline compared to the full monks . Who will always be up for a challenge. Also, another perspective. 6 Ways My Real Kung Fu Training Was Crazier Than Any Movie 4.2k Views · View Upvoters Upvote· 1819 Share Ed Lam, 30+ years of playing around in Judo, TKD, Muay Thai, and FMA. Because in real life, professional MMA fighters and especially at the elite UFC level, are PAID t...  Boh Yap, Embraced Trad. Chinese Martial Arts for >30 yrs. Still learning & teaching. Updated Apr 26, 2017 People tend to stereotype Shaolin monks. Besides just martial arts, the monks focus on learning Buddhism and Traditional Medicine. Traditionally, Shaolin is renowned for all 3 disciplines, most westerners only know of the martial arts!) Some may specialize in Martial Arts, but even among these there are several categories. There are those that train to perform at their international shows, then there are the elite ‘fighting monks’ and other with varying degrees of profficiency. The more highly train d monks have these martial skills/abilities: firness and basic strength Agility and flexibility Speed and coordination Able to take hits (Iron Shirt) Bone conditioning and breaking ability (break bricks, stones, sticks..), hence power strikes. Trained in weapons Assuming they are not already trained for combat, how much more effort would it take to make them formidable fighters in any field? The important point is: understand the objectives between martial arts and martial sports* (such as MMA…) if you want to be good in sports, then train for sports. Shaolin has never focused on sports fighting. But having said that; knowing the dedication and effort spent in training; do you think think they won’t excel in martial sports, if they choose to train for it? But I doubt it would happen, because that is not their focus for martial arts. As for effectiveness in fighting with weapons, I think a well trained Shaaolin monk would be quite formidable! ** it's annoying when noobs who are not exposed enough to martial arts, use MMA as a yardstick to measure all martial arts! MMA is a sport, it's entertainment, it's sole objective is to entice an audience and it does so by selling the perception that they are the ultimate, the only way martial arts can be applied! And gullible, ignorant joe-public buys it. It's a sport, and like they say, change the rules, you change the game! Would a top MMA fighter do well in a professional boxing match, a professional Muay Thai match in Thailand? They won't. Yet there have been Thai Muay Thai fighters that have been successful in MMA, Sanda fighters as well. So does this mean MMA is the ‘best’ fighting sport? Hardly. (Edited for typos) 5.5k Views · View Upvoters · Answer requested by Stephen Saw Upvote· 4849 Share Comment... Sponsored by Army Men Strike Can you lead your green army to victory in war? Play the strategy game that lets you control an army of green soldiers at war against the enemy invasion. Get the App  Tobias Dahl, Self study Answered Oct 15, 2017

@viktorcheng2061

5 жыл бұрын

Shaolin monks are not suppose to be fighters in the first place. Since the days of Shakyamuni the Buddhist monk bringing sacred teachings to the Shaolin temple, it was a place of peace, harmony, philosophy and meditation. Now its transformed to a place of combat

Times have changed at the Shaolin Temple. "Grasshopper, quickly as you can take the cellphone from hand. When you can take the cellphone from my hand it will be time for you to leave...to buy me a new one".

I still respect them for their hard work

@aurelianspodarec2629

5 жыл бұрын

People do that every time when they go to the gym.

@ianmcabee8036

5 жыл бұрын

@@aurelianspodarec2629 I respect those other people too

@jimmyteriyaki9783

5 жыл бұрын

Ian McAbee 1:28 he’s saying that monks don’t do any hard work

@ianmcabee8036

5 жыл бұрын

@@jimmyteriyaki9783 he said they couldn't fight because they don't train like fighters

@jimmyteriyaki9783

5 жыл бұрын

Ian McAbee he’s saying that monks train using some sort of “secret” and that they don’t use practical training ideas. That’s what I got out of what he said which is false.

I respect your opinion regarding martial arts, but who give you a right to claim Santa Claus isn't real??? You did the research? Have you ever been in Finland? Stop this nonsense!

@MrJohneblaze822

5 жыл бұрын

Santa Claus wouldn't be from Finland LoL

@AlexK-oh2se

5 жыл бұрын

So we have another scientist here. Where is Santa you think from? Canada? Have you proofs?

@CyberJellos

5 жыл бұрын

@@AlexK-oh2se Definitely from northern Canada.

@LegendaryBilly

5 жыл бұрын

VoidGap wrong

@TheLolo099

4 жыл бұрын

He lives on Svalbard these days.

Lots of western people expect Chinese all live in the quit, peaceful village deep in the mountains, wear clothes from 12th centuries, practice eastern magic and crazy Kungfu skills that can shoot energy ball from their hands, and fly in the clouds..... so western people can come to China to see a fairy world, clean their mind and shit... Basically they expect something like go to a Zoo and see some crazy looking animal to satisfy their curiosity. The fact is, Shi Yongxin - the current abbot of the Shaolin Temple, drives Mercedes-Benz. We are all just human living in the 21st century, be realistic, please.

@riccardodigiuseppe8661

4 жыл бұрын

Many Italians think the same: I Guarantee you.

@KCJAM1

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but you eat shit that would make a Billy goat puke and that puts you back a few centuries and might spread some new and innovative diseases. Bats, rats, and reptiles need to be stricken from the menu before you start crowing (which I am sure is also "on a stick" in some bazaars!?!) about how China is so cosmopolitan Ming Chen!

@sompompir

4 жыл бұрын

@@KCJAM1 Compared to McDonalds all the above is superfood. And you're an uninformed hateful idiot.

@art7046

4 жыл бұрын

@@KCJAM1 racist piece of shit fuck you

@nicator8380

4 жыл бұрын

@@KCJAM1 I rather eat bats, snake and other reptiles than McDonald's. I know where my meat came from.

Great video, Ramsey and Antonio! I'm a traditional Kung Fu guy, but i find baffling how many people think that you can learn fighting just practicing forms. Forms are a way to condense the concepts of a system in codified, organized way for teaching purposes, and if you don't decode them and try to undersand how each of those concepts translate to fighting, they are just good exercise. As you guys said, fighting is messy, chaotic, it's never organized. Love your content, cheers!

@bono894

2 жыл бұрын

I remember how much we focused on forms back when I did TKD. I also thought they were useless. I kept asking why we didn’t do more sparring or drills, but the advanced students kept reassuring me that forms were so much more important than sparring. After all, our instructor was an 8th Dan from Korea and told us this was true. Somehow, I managed to convince myself that they were right and trained forms for 2 1/2 years like a madman. I look back and cringe at all the time I wasted on that silly stuff that could have been spent hitting a bag, shadow kickboxing, or sparring.

@user-do7vd9tx3h

2 жыл бұрын

That is a problem of teaching kung fu in the west indeed. You have to spend like 5hours training a day where you will have one hour for taolu and 4 for whatever else. Taolu is crazy good for stretching and endurance btw but that is just a tiny portion of training

@nikolaynadtochiy7125

Жыл бұрын

I rally love your comment about forms being ways to condense concepts in a codified way for teaching purposes. The idea you've voiced about encoding and decoding sounds very spot-on to me if seen throught the goggles of logic. Thank you very much.

Although you're right in the sense that there's no magic, i'm pretty sure some dude with a 6 pack, that can do push ups on their fingers, back flips, and stand on their heads for an extended period of time could, most likely, kick the arse of the average dude.

@boxingjacks

5 жыл бұрын

If after all those years of training the monk is only above average dude, that is pretty shit. Gymnasts can also do all the things you said.

@robiulahmed

5 жыл бұрын

@@boxingjacks Yeah, you're right. Using gymnasts as an example is poor, though. They have even less fighting experience than monks, plus they train for years on end, just like monks do. Still, my point stands, if you want to become a better fighter, become a better athlete. I'd imagine a rugby player or even a Japanese professional wrestler (both of whom have literally zero fighting experience) would be able to beat the crap out of the average gym goer, but I wouldn't go so far as to call those guys pathetic. You get a lot of black belts that stop training and become fat dudes with dad bods. I'd wager a shaolin monk would beat those jabronis up, no problem. As far as this dude that Ramsey is interviewing goes, he doesn't believe running up and down hills helps with martial arts. It's no wonder I've never heard of this guy.

@theunfadeable60

5 жыл бұрын

@@robiulahmed Athletics don't automatically translate to fighting. You can be really strong but youre gonna get killed by someone with better technical knowledge and more fighting experience.

@robiulahmed

5 жыл бұрын

@@theunfadeable60 Sure, however, power and strength are underestimated at your peril. I remember in my judo white belt days, I sparred with a black belt woman (who also outweighed me). She had much better technical knowledge, but my strength, energy and power meant I could still smash her face into the mat. Similarly, I recall watching some KZread martial arts guy attempt to make some muscled up dude submit. It was an exercise of futility. The guy got out of everything, including arm bars and chokes.

@theunfadeable60

5 жыл бұрын

@@robiulahmed How many male blackbelts did you smash as a white belt?

"Discipline is a means to an end, not an end in itself"

Great video Ramsey ✌️ I just leave here a Bruce Lee quote which is the following: The best fighter is not a boxer,karate man or a judo man. The best fighter is which can adapt into any style. Kick's too good for a boxer, throw's too good for a karate man and punches too good for a judo man.

@davidoluwadare2787

5 жыл бұрын

Be water, my friend

@yotornadoyo

5 жыл бұрын

@ryukenb2k empty your cup

@yeshuasapostle7648

4 жыл бұрын

@ryukenb2k you're skill will never grow if you keep this mindset.

@yeshuasapostle7648

4 жыл бұрын

@ryukenb2k cool, but if all that talk is truly worth it then... Where is your belt? #GodsGotIt

@snakelama

4 жыл бұрын

ryukenb2k you good?

Amazing how High School Wrestling turned out to be the Ultimate Fighting Form. It decimated all martial arts and other fighting techniques.

@RamseyDewey

5 жыл бұрын

I know, right? :)

Tiger Muay Thai does include food if you go for the full package which is the $1000 package. You get a room and 3 meals a day and a full day worth of training.

@varanid9

5 жыл бұрын

$1000 for one day??

@jaymiddleton1782

5 жыл бұрын

varanid9 one month

@SandaBoxing

5 жыл бұрын

Also, the FOOD at Tiger Muay Thai is probably going to be a lot better too. I'm thinking, no meat at Shaolin since it's a Buhdhist gig. Thai food is very tasty, IMO, better than Chinese food....but no meat would be even worse in taste, not to mention the lack of animal protein.

@XxxXxx-fm3wo

4 жыл бұрын

If I am traveling to Thailand I rather sit on a sandy soft beach and enjoy the sun set, then run all day long and workout. Can do that in Winnipeg Manitoba. Dreamers, nothing but dreamers, oh oh oh oh oh oh...dreamers, nothing but dreamers. Maybe 0.5% of those who go to Tiger MT will ever get a paid fight from any reputable MMA franchise worth a darn. It is not because of the gruelling work they put into a weeks time of workouts, but because they were already good fighters to start with... not dreamers, $1000 dollar a week dreamers!

Wait it's not like the 36th chamber!?! I feel ripped off!

@Jay-zs8dg

5 жыл бұрын

It is not like that lets say anymore because after the destruction of the shaolin the were 7 monks who survived that but only 3 of them they knew kung fu so they had to gather all the people that knew shaolin kung fu and I think I am not sure they created a new system with some ancient forms and most of them were new so Shaolin Kung Fu is actually ruined and it is not the same one with that 500 years ago so that is one of the major reasons why shaolin kung Fu is not how effective as it was

@KCJAM1

4 жыл бұрын

Let's bring the mutha f'kn ruckus then because Wu Tang Clan ain't nothing to F with!

They have no reason to fight. I feel like centuries ago they could definitely fight but they don't have a purpose anymore, of course it'll turn into a non combative art... I think that pretty much sums up A LOT of traditional martial arts being taught modern day

@jean4j_

5 жыл бұрын

Extraordinary comment! Seems like people all believe that the purpose of Kung Fu or Karate or this kind of martial arts is become a good fighter, no it's not The point is to become a better self through martial art training

@michaelss1294

4 жыл бұрын

Jesus Of The Jungle , so true

@sys9208

4 жыл бұрын

They don't train themselves for any competition...but I think they can defend themselves

@frederickconner2694

4 жыл бұрын

What a stupid comment. A lifestyle and location, belief system, tradition etc does not determine whether or not one will have a reason to fight. Derp! Also, that isn't even relevant to whether or not the techniques will work in combat. 'Martial' relates to combat, war, and the like. If it doesn't work, then it isn't a martial art, or martial science. It is dancing.

@johnkennedy7368

3 жыл бұрын

They fought with weapons back then

"The same way the US Army has a southern accent." That's the truth.

@MrTrinitothebone

5 жыл бұрын

whats that mean?

Imagine how hard this has to be to hear to some teenage dude who just practices some form of kung fu and religiously watches bruce lee/old chinese kung fu movies all day

@jaymiddleton1782

5 жыл бұрын

tyson mccorkle it’s good for them. I did a bunch of crazy shit before my martial arts journey led me to BJJ. Now I’ve found a style I can dedicate the rest of my life to. At the end of the day people aren’t idiots because they do wing chun (as an example). There are just some people who are idiots who do do wing chun. So when idiots see wing chun pressure tested and repeatedly failing, they say “well it worked in the Ip Man movies...” whereas a young kid who isn’t an idiot - but maybe just doesn’t know any better - might see his kung fu failing under pressure and go looking elsewhere. That’s kind of what happened to me. And now I’m more in love with jits than any other thing I’ve ever trained. Oh and old Chinese kung fu movies are and always will be amazing. The poorer the production value, the worse the acting, the more ludicrous the choreography, the better!

@JohnnyWolfblood

5 жыл бұрын

Thai kickboxing fanboys are actually worse than Kung fu fanboys obsessed with Bruce lee and Jacki Chan.

@tysonmccorkle1036

5 жыл бұрын

@@JohnnyWolfblood at least we kickboxers have stuff to base our fanboyism on, TMA people on the other hand? Not so much, obviously.

@JohnnyWolfblood

5 жыл бұрын

I saw a documentary called “Thai prison fights”, and the Thai kickboxers who have been training for like over ten years got their asses kicked by the foreigners. And in the medieval time when the Shaolin monks fought Japanese pirates, the monks won 3/4 times.

@sophiawoods6748

5 жыл бұрын

tyson mccorkle your always welcome as a tough guy to knock on tommy carruthers door in Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 to see how ell your mma stacks up against his Bruce Lee teenage Kung fu stuff...your welcome to show your toughness there..I doubt you will last longer than about 30 seconds. But hey, you tough guy, you now mma mr big balls

This is similar to saying Ngannou can beat Stipe Miocic just because he recorded the most powerful punch in the performance centre. You saw how Stipe made him look in fight.

@36424567254

5 жыл бұрын

Precisely. When I heard the media buzz generated by that story I was left dumbfounded. Like, have we gone all this way in martial arts, just to fall back in to such ridicolous stuff in the MMA community itself? You bet I was so satisfied when the hype train derailed - there is just no way the man could have been as good as portayed when his name had been out on everyone's mouth for barely a few months - and with so few fights.

"The discount monk" 🤣🤣🤣

The guy on the right seems like he’s just watched a whole bunch of documentaries and movies and thought “oh yeah, I’m an expert now”

@snake3837

4 жыл бұрын

Whoa they are really so stupid xD But what to expect from a guys who sold themselves as chickens

@OizysA

4 жыл бұрын

Riight

@OizysA

4 жыл бұрын

Theyre like “ ThEy HaV WiFi”..... like okay, we’re talking abt how intensive the training is, and the violent methods they use to teach that make the students extraordinarily skilled

@lawthirtyfour2953

4 жыл бұрын

@@OizysA Skilled at what? not fighting.

@OizysA

4 жыл бұрын

Law Thirtyfour what other’s learn in two years they will learn in two weeks because they train all day. Unless a bone is broken or youre dead, they say you can train. The techniques and forms are beaten into you. They are very skilled individuals. At Shaolin temple they dedicate their lives to kung fu, for however long theyre there. So....they do fight. You guys are just haters on a culture you don’t understand

Santa claus isnt real?!?!?!? YOU MONSTERS ;)

@frankbrown4780

5 жыл бұрын

NO, Santa Claus is real.........................he's training Shaolin with the Easter Bunny...............and that rabbit has one mean kick!

@yellowmanwithasuit477

5 жыл бұрын

@@frankbrown4780 WHATT!!!! IMPOSSIBLE NOOOO MY LIFE IS A LIFE!! ;c

@oneshadowdragon

5 жыл бұрын

How dare you say Santa Claus isn't real.... That's what my dad said since I was almost 5 . He kept saying he is santa. I'm all thinking you fucken liar. Merry Xmas

@cjjr6601

5 жыл бұрын

Imagine what you'll say when you find out about Jesus!

@Simon0

5 жыл бұрын

I'm Santa. But i steal the presents instead.

Nice! Love that you got to meet up and chat with such a pioneer! Loved his show Martial Arts Odyssey

One thing a lot of people don't realise is that much of what is practised in mainland China today, and probably to a large extent in today's so called Shaolin temple, isn't the traditional stuff but contemporary Wushu. This is more like a form of gymnastics that has incorporated some Kung Fu moves that are performed in a (IMO) sloppy manner, and often using flexible weapons etc. I have seen some of the animal forms from contemporary Wushu, and they literally imitate the animals. I once saw a contemporary Wushu performer doing snake style, and the guy was crawling along the floor at one point. This is not the case in the traditional sets, where animal movements are instead translated into human movements, ie the crane set would not entail flapping your arms but forming your hands like a beak etc. So basically, the contemporary Wushu stuff seems to be more about flips and weird postures, and less about combat value. Now I did the "real" stuff for a few years in my teens and I can't say that appeared to be super effective either (in fact something like BJJ would probably be a safer bet for self defense), but there is a difference.

I apologize for the length of this comment in advance, but it's not a short task to outline the historical, theoretical, and practical application background of this subject. There hasn't been a "Shaolin Temple" in the historical sense since 1351. It was destroyed and rebuilt multiple times after this, the best-known story of the Temple's destruction is that it was destroyed by the Qing government for supposed anti-Qing activities. Variously said to have taken place in 1647 under the Shunzhi Emperor, in 1674, 1677, or 1714 under the Kangxi Emperor, or in 1728 or 1732 under the Yongzheng Emperor, this destruction is also supposed to have helped spread Shaolin martial arts through China by means of the five fugitive monks. Some accounts claim that a supposed southern Shaolin Temple was destroyed instead of, or in addition to, the temple in Henan: Ju Ke, in the Qing bai lei chao (1917), locates this temple in Fujian province. These stories commonly appear in legendary or popular accounts of martial history, and in wuxia fiction (wuxia fiction is a fantasy genre of Chineses fiction featuring martial arts heroes with super-powered gongfu). Wuxia's popularity has caused it to spread to diverse art forms such as Chinese opera, mànhuà, films, television series, and video games. It forms part of popular culture in many Chinese-speaking communities around the world. Many Americans are familiar with the genre through films like, "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon", based on a novel of the same name that is part of the Crane Iron Pentalogy, a wuxia series by Wang Dulu. and series such as, "Into the Badlands". The earliest wuxia films date back to the 1920s. Films produced by King Hu and the Shaw Brothers Studio featured sophisticated action choreography using wire and trampoline assisted acrobatics combined with sped-up camera techniques. The storylines in the early films were loosely adapted from existing literature. Cheng Pei-Pei, Jimmy Wang and Connie Chan are among the better known wuxia movie stars in the 1960s-70s, when films made by King Hu and the Shaw Brothers Studio were most prominent. More recent wuxia movie actors and actresses include Jet Li, Brigitte Lin, Michelle Yeoh, Donnie Yen, Tony Leung, and Zhang Ziyi. Yuen Woo-ping is a choreographer who achieved fame by crafting action-sequences in wuxia films. In summary, what most people think of as "The Shaolin Temple" is based upon the Chinese equivalent of "Lord of The Rings". With that said, the foundation of the powers they have in these various stories does have a basis in actual fact. Standing and seated meditation practices of 2+ hours a day built up to over years of practice, activate various mental and physical abilities that can be utilized for various purposes. For more information, including the actual exercises to do, read and practice the following books: The Way of Energy: Mastering the Chinese Art of Internal Strength with Chi Kung Exercise amzn.to/2SyqSHi Inside Zhan Zhuang: First Edition amzn.to/2GMgM4q T'ai Chi Classics amzn.to/2Thx7iK Internal Martial Arts Nei-gong: Cultivating Your Inner Energy to Raise Your Martial Arts to the Next Level amzn.to/2rZfmsT The Little Book of Hercules: The Physical Aspects of the Spiritual Path amzn.to/2Q709jn Tao & Longevity: Mind-Body Transformation amzn.to/2EVBdJG The Little Book of Meditation: The Way to Lifelong Vibrant Health, Peace of Mind, Spiritual Growth and Wellbeing amzn.to/2RuciDP ______________________________________________________________________________________________ The above books will give you a more solid foundation in actual internal martial arts practices than 99.9% of what most people see. The last two below are advanced level and only to be done if you have both the time and a teacher to ensure that you don't hurt yourself: White Moon on the Mountain Peak: The Alchemical Firing Process of Nei Dan (Daoist Nei Gong) amzn.to/2EWepcv The Path of Purification: Visuddhimagga (Vipassana Meditation and the Buddha's Teachings) amzn.to/2CGxa2t ____________________________________________________________________________________________ If you want the actual history of Traditional Chinese Martial Arts, then Sal Canzonieri is the man. Here's his site page with 36 extensive articles: Information on Chinese Martial Arts - history, styles, and masters www.bgtent.com/naturalcma/index.htm _____________________________________________________________________________________________ The resurgence of practical martial arts is a wonderful thing. But people need to know the actual history before saying things that only muddy the waters and confuse people. When this gentleman says that he trained with Shaolin monks, he didn't train with holders of the original practices from before 1351. They haven't existed since then. The monks there may be attempting to bring practices back that might be remnants of the original system, but they're still not the original temple. People who don't know the history make this error constantly. The Muscle Tendon Changing and Marrow Washing Classics were in all likelihood inspired texts, gotten through advanced meditation work. People tend to attribute these to famous "Historical/Mythological" figures like Damo and Lao Tse/Lao Tzu/Laozi, in order to add weight to the text by appealing to authority. But the exercises work when you know the correct breathing patterns done in conjunction with other practices. I love the channel. Keep up the great work. Peace!

@smartresearchwingchun494

5 жыл бұрын

Ancient martial artists probably didn't practice or train like how people are doing now. We have the scientific findings regarding Wing Chun - we uncovered that the mainstream Wing Chun practitioners are doing it wrong and unscientifically. And we have resolved some of the major errors. Go to our channel and see how our guys managed to use purely Wing Chun techniques against Karate. Unlike other chunners, they didn't guard or hop like a kickboxer. We applied the same approach to restore the techniques of other ancient martial arts.

@TheMuckrakers1900

5 жыл бұрын

@@smartresearchwingchun494 " Ancient martial artists didn't train like we do now" Not being shitty here but what does that mean? Ancient? Like what eras are you covering here with that statement? 300-1000 years, 1000-3000 years, 3000+ years? Like different eras had different weapons and styles of warfare that required different approaches to fighting. When you say martial artists who are we speaking of? The traditional Chinese martial artist that is an independent fighter not attached to any organization outside of his school? Or are we talking about the most common martial artists which were just soldiers who fought in the name of their country or king. And training. Like what is explained in the video, living on a mountain and breaking bricks under the tutelage of a wizard monk? Or your captain teaching your legion of Roman soldiers how to march and move in sync with one another to keep the shield wall from breaking. I feel like I am being pedantic here but when we say how "history" was it's best to be specific. Plenty of martial arts existed in the past and most only kept the techniques that work mostly because what didn't work got you killed.

@smartresearchwingchun494

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheMuckrakers1900 1) Ancient martial artists: Those who invented certain types of techniques in the past when there were lots of wars and conflicts going on. I would say probably 200 years ago and beyond. 2) They were mainly those from China, Japan, and other places around there. 3) If you examine ancient martial arts carefully, those people I mentioned practiced forms. 4) We analysed some ancient martial arts and uncovered some things such as their real concepts and how should they operate. These are related to biomechanics (or body mechanics). Most of the contemporary traditional martial arts practitioners don't know those things because they don't put in the effort to think and investigate (research). They think by practicing certain drills, they will become good in what they do. This is a big mistake.

@TheMuckrakers1900

5 жыл бұрын

@@smartresearchwingchun494 okay I gotchu. So what you're talking is more to the point of researching old theoretical martial arts that were not as critical of themselves and their techniques versus others that stayed critical and used practical application to see what works.

@smartresearchwingchun494

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheMuckrakers1900 don't quite understand. 1) Ancient martial arts were developed practically because in ancient times, there were no guns, etc. They had to do physical combat, and the techniques evolved out of science (what worked). Therefore, how they trained, was also scientific and practical and they probably high deep knowledge of biomechanics to use the body in the most efficient manner. 2) Current traditional martial artists practice in a superficial manner. They don't research and try to understand the science of biomechanics; they merely go through routines of what their sifus are teaching them. (Drills, artificial ideas of techniques, etc.) How they train may have deviated from how ancient martial artists trained. Their techniques may be executed in unscientific manner. (Wrong technique = It won't work)

Well, if you just want to have the experience of going to China and train in the Shaolin Temple, and not planning to fight in UFC or MMA, you just want the experience of eastern culture and martial arts, then its Okay if you do it. Just know WHY you are doing it and dont mix things up.

@SandaBoxing

5 жыл бұрын

The best place to learn REAL Kung-Fu of practically all forms of it, is probably in Brooklyn, New York from the many Black guys there who are really, really, into it. Black dudes in America seems to be the only ones who are really keeping Kung-Fu alive. While going to Shaolin Temple, that's just bullshit tourism to take pictures and tell people who don't know much about fighting, how cool it was.

@eduardoherrera4151

5 жыл бұрын

@@SandaBoxing Actually, i was watching a documentary about martial arts and a martial artist from Brooklyn said this " the thing about learning martial arts here is that whatever you learn, you get to use it and if it doesnt work, you'll find it very quick"... ive heard things bout this Martial artists , not only in Kung Fu but also in Karate and Taekwondo, whatever they train, they make it practical.

@SandaBoxing

5 жыл бұрын

@@eduardoherrera4151 Are you still talking about going to China to learn Kung-Fu? Your post is not very intelligible.

@elenchus

5 жыл бұрын

"Well, if you just want to have the experience of going to China and train in the Shaolin Temple, and not planning to fight in UFC or MMA, you just want the experience of eastern culture and martial arts, then its Okay if you do it. Just know WHY you are doing it and dont mix things up." You should absolutely do whatever you want and tell everyone else to go to hell. That said, make sure that you know why you're going and have done your research. All I'm trying to do is make sure people have the information to make smart decisions about what to train.

@eduardoherrera4151

5 жыл бұрын

@@SandaBoxing All i was trying to say about this is that if you Know what you are getting into , its Ok. The problem i see is that people get lied and think they are going there to learn something they won't get. Like say "Oh, i want to be a top fighter in the UFC so i'll go to Shaolin to train there and i'll be ready for it". From what i can understand, this Shaolin schools are places for tourism where you go and train some forms and weapons, learn about chinese culture and stuff..but looks like they aren't into real practical skill.... but if you are not really looking for practical skills and you just want to the experience and the adventure of going to China and living in Shaolin, then its Okay if you do it.

Just to clarify, the Shaolin's are a for-profit organization. Not a for-prophet one.

@brooklynmonk1

5 жыл бұрын

Super clever

@neutrino78x

5 жыл бұрын

it's not for profit at all. it's controlled by the Chinese Communist Party, which is against profit. The only reason the CCP allows them to exist is so they can advance communism (otherwise you aren't allowed to practice religion in China because "religion is the opiate of the people", as Marx said).

To me "how well can you fight?" translates as "how well can you use firearms, cover, camoflauge, and movement?".

I trained in Gung Fu for eight years when I was in my 40’s and I have a black sash. I can reveal now the secret to being a great fighter. Here it is! HARD WORK. This guest is absolutely right on, no secret sauce.

Mate you learned discount monk style, of course they didn't teach you the super power shiz 😂

@mutant0177

5 жыл бұрын

It is so funny that he is really thinking they showed him the real stuff! I can not stop laughing... they are so arrogant and don't even notice that they disgrace themselfs.

@neutrino78x

5 жыл бұрын

@@mutant0177 yeah man. Like Ramsey Dewey says in another video "oh I went to China and nobody's interested in traditional martial arts there" and it's like, well, that's because you sought out other MMA jocks, dude. You have to go to a studio in China where they're teaching the traditional ways. Then you'll meet lots of guys who are into traditional martial arts and spirituality and all that.

@mutant0177

5 жыл бұрын

@@neutrino78x I think that the biggest problem is that they are not open minded. They have there perspective and are not willing to move one inch. In that state is it impossible to learn anything (in my opinion).

@pyromidas

5 жыл бұрын

Do you have the will to look at a man you're holding down, bleeding from head injuries you've inflicted, and cold bloodedly cover yourself in his blood when you purposely cause that injury to become worse? Not everyone has that in them. Even less so if they don't fight for real. Yes the monks have some great conditioning, but that's as far as it goes.

@mutant0177

5 жыл бұрын

@@willnicholson18 Hey No, I am not a Monk. Everybody has to know whom to believe. I prevere to trust people I know and combine it with logic thinking. I know somebody personally who was at the Shaolin Temple AND know how to fight. I think the is a lot of clickbaiting involved from fat, cocky westeners. It see the Training and the culture in Shaolin is not the same as 300 years ago but daily training for decades and don't know how to punch?

Well said guys. Real kung fu is no longer in china i have explained that 100 times

@dfpguitar

5 жыл бұрын

for China's obsession with Olympic sports it is interesting that they have never been dominant in Olympic boxing, wrestling or judo etc in comparison to sports like weightlifting, diving and gymnastics. The combative Olympic sports seem ideal for no frills training on mountain tops. Which is part of why wrestling is so popular in the Caucasus region and the fighters so extraordinarily good.

@taekwondobro

5 жыл бұрын

Where did it go

@MartialArtsTutorialsFighttips

5 жыл бұрын

@@taekwondobro outside of china , the master left due to prosecution from the communist goverment as far as i know cuba, Argentina and a few other places

@DavidLangfordShaolin

5 жыл бұрын

Malaysia, Indonesia, etc

@MartialArtsTutorialsFighttips

5 жыл бұрын

@@DavidLangfordShaolin correct david

What i'd really like to see. Ramsey Dewey in his fancy tights using only MMA techniques vs a robed Shaolin monk armed with a short staff.

@RamseyDewey

5 жыл бұрын

Why?

@josephalexander3155

5 жыл бұрын

@@RamseyDewey Your buddy in the video stated very clearly that Shaolin monks can't fight. I have seen monks using weapons and they seem to be very good at it. So I think you using your tools, fists, grappling skills etc and the Shaolin monks using the tools that they use best staffs,swords etc would be a fair fight. Don't you think?

This stuff is gold. My perception has been changed by this video and I feel enriched. Thank you. With great respect. Flaxen Saxon.

He was a UFC fighter, clearly didn’t work out...

This actually makes a lot of sense. They are exceptionally good at conditioning and preparing a person to learn how to fight without actually teaching/learning how to fight because a monk needs not to fight. Especially now that there can be no nomad raiders that can come and pillage their Temple. It reminds me of Takuan Soho who was a monk that had no swordfighting experience yet he was educated enough to teach any other samurai of rather formidable caliber about the ways of the sword.

Of course a warrior monk can fight in real life. There is so much discrimination going on in this video

An absolutely fantastic video that answers a question I've always had. THANKS!!!!!!!!!!

Ramsey looks like an undercover Agent in this video :D I fully agree with both of you. There is no magic for fighting. I think every "material art" has some good things. That must not be the actual technique i could be the philosophy behind it, like living in peace and try to get arround a fight and there is some bad in it. You always can find a weakness in every Martial Arts even in BJJ. I don't think there is or ever will be the perfect balanced Martial Art wich is superior to all others. There will never be someone who can defeat everybody. But that is just my opinion.

@cosmoreverb3943

5 жыл бұрын

It is a really nice coat

@jaymiddleton1782

5 жыл бұрын

Sebastian Schachner I think if you took the three modern arts of karate, judo, and BJJ, and codified them back into one martial art, you’d have the closest thing you could get to a “perfect” martial art. Side note - in my opinion BJJ’s only weakness is the context. In the context of a 1 vs 1 unarmed fight, BJJ is probably the best martial art you could probably know. 1 vs 3 and they may be armed? The best martial art is the 100m sprint.

@neutrino78x

5 жыл бұрын

sebastian, I agree there's no magical art. But the problem is "no magical art" includes MMA. Just because you do MMA doesn't mean you'll win. If you started MMA yesterday and I've been doing Kung Fu at a master level for 20 years, I'm still going to win.

@asianfighter62

4 жыл бұрын

Sebastian Schachner tell me how your BJJ will survive against a monk and his broad sword? You try your Bjj crap you will die!

A fake friend either flatters you or puts you down and a real one tells you the truth as it is. Thanks for opening our eyes. Our childhood heroes especially Bruce Lee stands exposed.

@anda134

Жыл бұрын

You need to study more about Bruce Lee.He was among the first to denounce the lack of full contact sparring in traditional martial arts.Also the lack of weight training.He also said an athlete with one year of full contact training could beat a martial arts master with lifetime training but without sparring experience.

First time I’ve heard a straight answer to this question. Very interesting channel you’ve got here.

Thank you for a glimpse into the real world of martial arts

In another video, you were talking about this old chinese man that could outwrestle you with Taiji if I am not mistaken. Although of course there is no big secret, just consistent practice, it is not fair to imply that mma training is the only way to be a fighter in my opinion.. (unless this old man secretly trained mma?) In that sense I really appreciate the diversity you bring to your narrated sparrings like with the bagua guy for an example. And it would be really cool to see podcasts with people who use these forgotten treasure in a more realistic fighting context, like Tim Cartmell. Just dreamin' out loud.

So, my first comment on this channel.... I'm newcomer to this channel, absolutely amazing content, got my sub immediately. The straight, down to earth, no bullshit approatch is really appealing to me, coming from another sport, (played Olympic handball professionally in Germany for some time) with rising interest in fighting. To be honest, you have kinda crushed my hopes of having a shot at a professional career in fighting, despite having sparred with a few amateurs/semi-pros in boxing and wrestling at my local gym, all telling me I could make it big with enough training, despite being 20 years old already. Hearing the blunt truth is humbling, but i appreciate you for the honesty in your videos, even though some might be offended by it. Getting good at something takes a ton of hard and RIGHT WORK, not just some work. Keep the great content coming👍

@RamseyDewey

5 жыл бұрын

20 is super young. That’s prime training time. Hop to it! Why on Earth would you think you’re too old???

@justdoit2521

5 жыл бұрын

I think if you train for it with the right mindset you might have a chance at it. I'm not saying you will have a chance definitely, but maybe you would. For me, this video just puts things into prospective. It strips you from all delusions you might have about how strong you think you are, but it doesn't mean that you have no chance whatsoever at fighting. You should at least try.

@lancepabon

5 жыл бұрын

20! I started training MMA at 56! I'm 57 now! go for it kid!

@thomb.1326

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you guys for the response, really appreciate it, I'm going to try to become as good as I can be, no excuses, I know what it took for me to become a professional, so maybe I won't reach the same level in fighting as in handball, but I'll do my best to become even greater. Again, thanks a lot💪

@thomb.1326

5 жыл бұрын

@@RamseyDewey Thank you, you're absolutely right, 20 ain't even prime for the human body regarding physical fitness. I'm struggling I bit with my confidence and some personal problems of the court took me away from the sport I trained my whole life for, so starting fresh is a bit scary, but I'll not let that hinder me and use it to my advantage. Yet again, thank you.

Subscribed.Good luck with your channel.

I'm a Hung Gar practitioner, but this doesn't offend me because I'm a Kung Fu practitioner but my moves does work in combat because I always spar with a boxer, Muay Thai practitioner, and other martial arts practitioner in school. So I agree that every martial arts will only works if we have fighting experienced and not a fantasy based training

Eye Opener video! Took off a lot of burden from my head as I believed I would never be able to fight as good until I go to the Shaolin and have years of rough training and learn how to break stacks of bricks(scary) with my bare hands. Good to know I can train to be a better fighter in a local gym! Thank you for this educational trip!

@pikebasss

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah dude, a martial art that has regular sparring that is actually used by successful fighters is infinitely better than learning how to break shit with your hands (also a lot of the stuff you break is pre-broken or preheated to be more fragile.)

@yourtrappedinmygenjutsu

2 жыл бұрын

Bro do you live in a fantasy world ? Do you think you need to train with monks to learn to fight ? How do you think westerners learned ? Lol

@tombuckner942

6 ай бұрын

You ain't getting an eye opener from these amateurs

Before I watch this, and I definitely will, I hope you talk about the unbelievable skills and power cultivated by these people, I use many of their conditioning techniques, and have seen results. Whether or not Shaolin martial arts are valid fighting arts is a long discussion with many turns but any man conditioned like a true Shaolin monk will be tough as nails regardless of technical prowess. The fighting arts themselves are a brilliant set of arts that build strong fighters, with depth of movement and understanding.

@aidanclover8751

2 жыл бұрын

exactly.

@astralking5040

2 жыл бұрын

Precisely

Thank you for bringing sanity to this world of martial arts

Not to discount the great physical feats that martial artists can do. I personally loved karate sparring matches at the dojo as a little kid, but combat sports are where you push yourself beyond your limit even when your entire body is beaten and battered. For me the was wrestling and some street fighting. When you are on the mat, on your back and the ref is sliding his hand under your shoulder blade to make sure your aren't pinned, you can get this super human burst of strength your you bridge and knock your opponent off. For me I still crave fighting, too long remaining docile makes me antsy.

This is really interesting! I've been to shaolin several times, my longest stay being 4 months. I completely agree with everything said in this video, If you want to learn to fight, don't go to shaolin (there are some very good Sanda teachers, but tbh if you're going to learn sanda then learn muay tai instead lol)

@angelocarantino4803

2 жыл бұрын

Sanda is better but to each their own

@PLONG12345

2 жыл бұрын

@@angelocarantino4803 it depends. if takedowns are not allowed muay thai is better

@angelocarantino4803

2 жыл бұрын

@@PLONG12345 so you think the standing art is better for muay thai? Why do you say that?

@PLONG12345

2 жыл бұрын

@@angelocarantino4803 years of competitions and development. Sanda as in modern sanda is developed to beat muay thai but they key thing that they added are takedowns. Muay Thai fighters have 300 fights on average focusing on stand up

The real shaolin monastery was burned to the ground a few hundred years ago. the modern version was established recently and has no actual lineal connection to the original. Actual warrior monks fought as soldiers in formations with weapons and armour and were often mercenaries hired by the monastery. The modern version are mainly wushu.

@lotharluder2743

5 жыл бұрын

If it comes to professionell killing. The good reasons is mostly not in the willing. A single Maschinegun kills 100 Years of hard trained man on a run.

@Courtney_Ann_

5 жыл бұрын

Exactly, the new shaolin temple is a novelty for tourists. The historical form of gung fu is not being utilized presently.

@joaquindelarosa1215

5 жыл бұрын

That is interesting information. Would love to have a time machine and see for myself how the authentic shaolin fought.

@smartresearchwingchun494

5 жыл бұрын

Ancient martial artists probably didn't practice or train like how people are doing now. We have the scientific findings regarding Wing Chun - we uncovered that the mainstream Wing Chun practitioners are doing it wrong and unscientifically. And we have resolved some of the major errors. Go to our channel and see how our guys managed to use purely Wing Chun techniques against Karate. Unlike other chunners, they didn't guard or hop like a kickboxer. We applied the same approach to restore the techniques of other ancient martial arts.

@mikenuzzo3323

4 жыл бұрын

@Pkmmm Mmmkkk you found that book because I've been meaning to find it

Read "The Monk from Brooklyn" in 2011 and told Antonio that it made me want to move to Asia and train. Finally made it here, my teacher is from Malaysia, but he lives in New York 😂😂😂 Hope to make it out to Shanghai to meet both of you when things clear up.

Great eye opening video

I wonder though how good they would get, if you introduced them to sparring. I mean their physical skills are tremendous. They are strong, they are flexible and they are fast. And they do have a substantial pain threshold / will to power through uncomfortable situations. These are great foundations for fighting. I'd love to see a life long monk in a full contact fight after maybe 2 years of sparring

Hi guys, great content - you can use a free program like Audacity to make it so the loudest and quietest parts of the audio are not as far apart. This is called compression, and while its annoying in music, it is very beneficial for this type of audio so people don't have to constantly adjust the volume. Did you release this as a podcast? Would love to follow along with it!

Movies can really advertise a martial better than anything.

"Any time on my KZread channel when I point out the reality of fighting, people get mad" Yes, I can certainly see that from reading these comments. Some seriously triggered people.

Shaolin Monks historically were legendary fighters. However modern monks are NOT the same has the warriors of old.

@ajgYT09

5 жыл бұрын

But you are fantasising and the "warriors of old" mostly used swords/blades for war. They would not last in the MMA cage much like Medieval "Warriors of old" would never last more than 5 mins on a modern battlefield.

@seanhiatt6736

5 жыл бұрын

@@ajgYT09 Modern Karate evolved out of Five Ancestor fist Kung Fu and Monk Fist boxing. Other Shaolin styles like Hung Gar and Choy li fut have completed in full contact contest with Thai boxers and others. So yes if one actually reads the history of martial arts; you will find the reputation that the original Shaolin Monks had was well earned. The "Wushu" you see today is a modern invention. During the 19th century many people were killed during the civil wars going on in China; including Kung Fu masters. Another thing to understand is with the development of modern weapons many MAs became sports or were changed to become a form of exercise.

@ajgYT09

5 жыл бұрын

@@seanhiatt6736 ... too many classic gung fu movies. None of ze warriors of old would beat or last in the modern MMA cage against UFC's best and modern day advances in Sports Science. Or boxing, wrestling, sambo or Gracie Jiu Jitsu. They were prideful, ignorant and dogmatic and narrow minded. They would pick 1 style and never think of adapting. Tough, and physically fit sure. But you're overly fantasising and many of them were seldom over 5ft 4' tall and 8 or 9 stone.

@ajgYT09

5 жыл бұрын

@@seanhiatt6736 Anyway Boxing is and has always been more effective and *actual / *real* fighting than Karate or "5 Palm Kung Fu". Yes I have done and seen these styles from Taekwondo, to Gung Fu, to Wing Chun and boxing has always beaten them all hands down. Why? Because its real speed and power and a no frills, no bullshit approach, with emphasis on Physical Training. Belts mean nothing. Neither do archaeic monasteries to a misguided, unscientific method, and "Chi" is total bull****. If you disagree with that ... then that tells me all I need to know about you in a real hands down balls to wall warfare brawl.

@ajgYT09

5 жыл бұрын

Anyway "legendary" through folk stories, tall tales and mix of truth and lies and pottery omages or black and white photos. Most times; don't believe the hype. Put any one of them against a prime Mike Tyson or Rocky Marciano (wearing groin guards) whom are real/trained fighters. Or any of UFC's elite.

Really interesting talk. It's funny, in many aspects of life these concepts would be considered common sense, but people expect magic with fighting.

@SandaBoxing

5 жыл бұрын

People who never fought or even sparred hard (for full knockouts), often believes such movie bullshit.

@fisharepeopletoo9653

5 жыл бұрын

I blame religion. Its a gateway to allowing fantasy into real life.

That was actually kind of inspiring. I think I'm going to start working harder.

*The "contrast up" part was amazing 10 out of 10 advice*

Brooklyn Monk talking shit about how these disciplined monks can't win a fight, but meanwhile he can't win a simple fight against his temptation to finish that 12th donut from the box he brought home only 10 mins. prior.

@crunch9876

4 жыл бұрын

SWIFTY_WINS we are talking about fighting, his weight makes no difference, the fact remains. Shocking monks can’t fight or hold their own in a profesional ring

@ParkerUAS

4 жыл бұрын

@@crunch9876. Shaolin Monks, those at Shaolin dedicated to Buddhist study? You're correct. Shaolin Warrior-monks, those who train about 10 hours a day, everyday. Well, actually they are pretty good at there respective study of Kung Fu. In an MMA style fight the fact that they are dedicated to basically one discipline versus having a understanding of many disciplines is what may be their downfall. It is like having a Muay Thai champ go up against a Brazilian Jui Jitsu champ. One is great at strikes, one is great at "ground and pound". It will come down to who is able to get the other to fight on their level. Keep it a stand up and strike fight the Muay Thai is likely the winner. Get that Muay Thai guy on the ground and the Jui Jitsu guy is likely getting a submission.

Seriously MMA is what it is today because of martial arts constantly evolving over time. Always seek the current revolutionary of Modern MMA and combine the best of the simplest and most potent current arts as the evolve forward

@silverback1540

3 жыл бұрын

& next is gun fu

This is his experience with one temple. Fighting ability comes down to individuals. Cant believe its still a debate.

Ramsey do you have an amazon link for that jacket? I love it.

@RamseyDewey

3 жыл бұрын

The jacket didn’t come from Amazon.

Was the Shaolin temple always this way or only since the cultural revolution. If we go back say 150 years, the monks used there skills to defend there life, or even on the battle field. So I can think that the way they train is vastly different since the good old days.

Hey man, what's your take on traditional Okinawan Karate such as Goju-Ryu, Uechi-Ryu and so on. I'm really interested for you to take this up to the show and perhaps to break it down as such you did in this video. That would be a major awesomeness. Thanks dude

@RamseyDewey

5 жыл бұрын

Good question. All my karate experience is with shotokan and kyuokushin. I’m not sure how Goju-ryu and Uechi-ryu are different, but a lot of people have been asking about this. I’ll look into it and see if I can find any experts on the subject to interview.

Hi Mr Dewey, I just discovered your channel. I have to say, it has been insightful. You break things down in way that are logical, articulate and very insightful.... you absolutely have a pulse on what is most important to be a true martial arts in the most practical sense of the word....i grew up during the 70s where I fell in love with Bruce Lee/ Shaw bros movies....my parents wouldn’t pay or karate lessons so I searched near and far for free lessons lol!... at 14 I found a guy who claimed to be a kung fu master and I took lessons in his basement... in college I took an isshin-ryu class for credit as I was still fascinated by the martial arts.... After college I became a policeman in a large northeastern US city... i have 23 years on now and have experienced several situations where I fought for my life... now I had weapons but you can’t just shoot someone who is street fighting you... the funny thing is that it turned into a chaotic no holds barred brawl ... whatever I learned in those martial arts lessons never even entered my mind... I just did whatever it took to survive... I punched, clawed, screamed, kicked, choked... whatever it took to survive I did.... now I’m 50 years and want to take up the martial arts again... but I know I’ll never be a professional fighter so my goals are very different now... I want to study a traditional art for some reason... of course I want to be fit, but I also yearn for the tradition, values, and history that many traditional arts provide.... of course I also want to learn self defense as well and also want to keep the value of combat stress... I know about that... I’ve been there... but I’m yearning for something greater... to be at peace, learn something that requires thought, effort and concentration... in the end, I believe traditional martial arts certainly match my goal in life.... now go train lol!!

I think in a old interview of Jet Li for the movie Shaolin Temple, he would go on to explained that there were no warrior monks at Shaolin Temple when they filmed on site. Just your normal everyday Buddhist monk in a temple that was falling apart.

When I was a kid, like most of us I guess, I was really into kungfu and east asian fighting styles, watching all the classical movies. So I wanted to learn. And I did. Besides stuff like wushu, I learned all those performance stuff like handstand on two fingers etc. But by the time of learning, I saw behind a fassade. They really train hard, they can achieve alot with conditioning and concentration. So they are able to do a lot of awesome, acrobatic stuff. But for the most part, it's just a illusion. Like steel bones, the spear demos etc. It's a show. I am pretty sure when people in the past, children and naive people today, saw their performance they thoaght that these guys are superhuman, invincible. So with a stigma like this, no one wants to fight you. Even those exotic weapons are mostly just to scare people. Not to fight with. With the time all legit movements for fights became so exaggerated that they became completely useless. Like a lot of so called holy people in India these monks build a reputation during centuries. But it's nothing more than smoke. I admire their lifestyle and devotion, but it's nothing for me. I developed into different stuff. You learn alot of good things. But nor to be a superhuman fighter from the mountain.

@prastagus3

4 жыл бұрын

you can do handstand on two fingers? Do you know those iron fingers can be very deadly if applied to fighting?

@donkeyslayer8370

3 жыл бұрын

@@prastagus3 sure but less risky to just use knuckles. you fingers can easily break

@prastagus3

3 жыл бұрын

@@donkeyslayer8370 This is why special practice and care are needed for such training. Plus in a fight, a fist strike can be altered into a finger strike when the time is right. The opponent won't suspect it.

@donkeyslayer8370

3 жыл бұрын

@@prastagus3 but also need to keep in mind as bruce lees 6 diseases of the mind one of them is being too eager to use all your training/techniques,

@prastagus3

3 жыл бұрын

@@donkeyslayer8370 always be careful during such training

This guys experience is 100% different from mine! Monk that taught me for 15 years Sifu Shi Yan Zi focused on fighting aspect as do most warrior monks! If you go to the Shaolin Temple and want an experience for 6 weeks you are only going to get a glimpse of the fighting monk training regime. Firstly you meditate and do breathing exercise for 60 minutes in the morning before sunrise usually sometime between 03:00 - 05:00 hours then: you go for a run up a mountain time varies but you look to do 2.4 km every 6-13 minutes; then you do the elephant walk all the way down the mountain, sometimes you do basic exercises at the top, once you arrive back in the courtyard you do mobility exercises then basic stance work, this includes punches and kicks. This would take you between 3-4 hours to complete. You then break for breakfast. After 30 minutes you do form practise about 60 minutes: then gong practise; what gong you do depends upon your level of development, then shadow boxing, then sandai, this includes partner technique practise drills and live sparring. This will amount to 3 hours training: sometimes less, sometimes more, dependent upon your level. You then break for lunch. You have 60-90 minute break including lunch. You then do Sandai and form practise which is shadow boxing and applications. Form practise includes weapon practise. After 2 hours you break for tea. In the evening you are encourage to self practise which includes reading and meditating. Lights out by 21:00 hours. The aforementioned is a very generalised training day: there are specialism that are practised that is dependent upon your level of knowledge and development. Most of these are known as 72 gongs of Shaolin and are essentially strength and conditioning exercises that toughen both body and mind to be far more resilient and disciplined: e.g. holding a 100kg Atlas stone in ma bu for 60 minutes; I assure you that 60s is really hard never mind 60 minutes! You build up to these things over time, just like deadlifting 200kg for 8 reps, you do not start there if you are an average human being: but; you do progress to that weight. My opinion on the video is that he experienced a watered down version of traditional shaolin training. Please note that the culture of Shaolin and all warfare is to develop and not stagnate: ergo; new techniques have always historically been added to shaolin including gun disarm!!! Peace! Omnitofu!!!

@skssuccess75

5 жыл бұрын

His argument against Shaolin temple didn't make any sense. You would think there were different levels within the system itself but it seems like his experience was from a novice standpoint and didn't go to any higher levels. Your comment makes a lot more sense

@brooklynmonk1

5 жыл бұрын

First off, I lived there twice and spent about six months there and if they were training to fight I would have seen it. Or when we had our sparring sessions they would have used it. I have no idea where you were or what you experienced but what I just described is 100% accurate of the Shaolin Temple with the exception of Tagao sanda school which I also talked about in this video. But there is no such thing as a monk who fights or teaches fighting. The monks only teach performance forms.

@brooklynmonk1

5 жыл бұрын

@@skssuccess75 Whether you believe me to be a novice or not, I was there and I saw what training was happening and I sparred whenever I could and no they were not training to fight. Inside the temple there are tracts there is the kung fu tract which involves monks and has nothing to do with fighting and there is a sanda tract which has nothing to do with monks.

@brooklynmonk1

5 жыл бұрын

Sorry, when you said your experience was different than mine, did you mean because I was in the Shaolin Temple and you weren't? Because I would agree with that statement.

@sjewitt22

5 жыл бұрын

@@brooklynmonk1 Well one of you is full of shit. That's for sure.

Ramsey Dewey Even if I’m not a fighter (and barely a sports guy...), I like your channel very much. In fact, I’m a professional musician and you may perhaps find that funny, but there are a lot of things that I can relate to my daily instrumental practice when I hear you talking about martial arts! 🙂

I don’t know who these guys saw fighting but the shaolin monks I saw sparring were actually great fighters.

I trained MMA back in the 90’s all of us would get crushed today in the UFC. So someone with no MMA training ? The ref would be there to rescue the monk.

This shouldn’t be a surprise. Martial Artists were killed, marginalized, and co opted by the government so harshly and for so long. I think It was purposely made to be what it is today - Tourism. The national art curriculum was created to purposely water it all down. Man, talking to some of the elders of chinese families who fled to Taiwan or Southeast Asia couple generations ago and they have unbelievable HORROR stories about their parents, grandparents, great grandparents, and just general national history. BUT, I think it’s okay. All is not lost. I think as Shuai Jiao and San Da become more popular alongside Muay Thai, Kickboxing, Judo, Jiu Jitsu, I think the overall quality of instruction will slowly rise. And Eventually there will be a generation of modern minded people who kind of have a foot in both worlds, modern mixed martial arts as well as having enough pride in the traditional culture to go back and re-energize some of the older arts with new perspective, life and energy. Ultimately, there really aren’t many things being used that Chinese Wrestling or Kung Fu doesn’t already have. It’s just the Methods and Quality of Instruction that’s far behind the curve. I’m hoping both Kung Fu and Catch Wrestling get their times of resurgence and success in the future.

This place in Henan, is there way I can contact them or visit them? I’m just curious. I’m currently living in China. Next time I have holiday I would like to visit this place with maybe do some sparring and training.

@RamseyDewey

5 жыл бұрын

Sure. The Shaolin temple is one of the most popular tourist attractions in China. Go for it.

Its the warrior that wins a fight, not the fighting style.

I lived in China for 13 years, living three years in Songshan Shaolin (village outside the temple). They are all in great shape hit pads and spar with pretty hard contact and some takedowns. There are also some that specialize in boji or sanda chinese kickboxing. They have started to implement some rudimentary ground fighting in sparring, like a kind of ground and pound. I trained with both the students that implement the Chinese kickboxing and the ones that it is their focus. The semi pro sanda/ boji guys are like any other full contact fighters, tough as nails.

@SandaBoxing

2 жыл бұрын

Well now they do, esp. with the UFC being in China; so it's big $$$$$$$.

Why is he so adamant that there is no way they could fight in MMA. Has he never heard of Yi Long? He's fairly good.

@Sigrt

5 жыл бұрын

@@KentCorlain Not an ordained monk, but he did at least train some with Shaolin monks.

@Veepee92

5 жыл бұрын

@@Sigrt Shaolin Temple has basically announced that "Thus Yi Long guy has nothing to do with us". He's never had a legit connection to Shaolin.

@Sigrt

5 жыл бұрын

@@Veepee92 I am aware of that. They think he brings them a bad name. That does not change the fact that he did, at one time train with them. And it is clear from his fighting style that it is at the very least inspired by the style. So I don't see why it was be so impossible for Antonio to imagine one of the real shaolin monks to be able to enter the ring.

@Veepee92

5 жыл бұрын

@@Sigrt But would that not delegitimize his whole brand as "Shaolin Monk" that he is marketing himself with? With, you know, brayer beads, shaven head and long yellow pants? I'm not sure what "Shaolin inspired" you see in his fighting style (I can't see any; at least he does not understand and utilize any suoshen, tuizhang or xiexing techniques which are the cornerstone of Shaolin boxing), but I'm afraid that if he continues catching blows with his head like he does, in few years he won't have enough brain cells to remember who and when he is fighting. He's already starting to look pretty bad...

@donnchadhmcginley3153

5 жыл бұрын

People are so concerned with disproving things, you must ask why.

Wait till I learn the Five Point Palm Exploding Heart Technique.

They know the magic of discipline and having the right perspective.

'Fight' means what? A competition? A spontaneous self defence? Warfare? Sport fight? Different martial arts are designed for different things. And the tool is only as good as the person using it. I don't know about Gungfu and Shoalin... You're probably right... But what does fight mean? That's always really important when people bring up these questions. And how important us the answer anyway? Love to do a talk with you one day

@brooklynmonk1

5 жыл бұрын

The reason I always use MMA as the standard for what is a fight is because MMA has the least restrictive rule set. You can do essentially everything except kick in the nuts, bite or pull hair. And even with no rules, men tend not to do those things.

@jean4j_

5 жыл бұрын

@@brooklynmonk1 I think monks spend a lot of their time training for weapon as well! It sure would work well in the cage !

@infozencentre

5 жыл бұрын

@@brooklynmonk1 you so called MMA guys should use the word completion, because no matter how ugly it gets its not to the death and it is for money and glory. So called because you're not dojng an art, its a sport. Not disrespecting you, but let's call it what it is. I like your interview though. Only thing is you don't mention and I'm sure you know it if you have rreally been to Shoalin, there are two types of monk there, and the type you mention are not really monks the way that I am, they are doing a martial arts program the take a special ordination and they are totally separate from the guys doing Zen training.

@propaneman9579

5 жыл бұрын

@@infozencentre It's the sport of using nothing but your bare hands to beat someone until they're incapable of fighting back. It doesn't matter if it's in the ring. It doesn't matter if it's for money or glory. That's a fight. You wouldn't argue that Usain Bolt wouldn't beat someone in a foot race in the streets because he races for sport would you? Of course not. That would be absurd. People who criticize MMA for being "just a sport" never seem to understand that their complaints apply to whatever martial art they are practicing as well. No, MMA will not prepare you to deal with someone carrying a knife and you'd still be at a big disadvantage when fighting multiple opponents. MMA will however prepare you FAR better than whatever "deadly" martial art they're advocating for since it teaches the most tried and tested techniques of any art and does comes as close as possible to simulating a real fight without killing or permanently injuring the practitioners. If you would like to see evidence for everything I'm saying, just use KZread. You'll find a great many videos of "sport" fighters wiping the floor with their opponents in street fights. Sometimes even multiple opponents at the same time. You'll find hardly any of people doing the same using kung-fu, or any other martial art that's "too deadly for the ring."

@infozencentre

5 жыл бұрын

@@propaneman9579 did you actually read what I said? Apparently not.

I don’t care about whether they can fight or not, lots of Kung fu looks really cool. I appreciate Kung fu for what it is. I mean if there was no Kung fu there would be no Jackie Chan or most other entertaining Hong Kong films. Martial Club is my favorite KZread channel ever. They are very Kung fu focused.

@jean4j_

5 жыл бұрын

People don't understand that the primary focus of Kung Fu or Japanese martial arts (especially modern ones) are not to be a good fighter. It's to reach a better self through martial arts training

HI Ramsey, Australian viewer here and I had some questions regarding mma and wing chun as of the recent video responses between you and master wong. Do you think certain wing chun techniques are viable in mma or it's a useless martial art?

@RamseyDewey

5 жыл бұрын

What does Master Wong have to do with wing chun? All I’ve seen him do is bad BJJ. I know a lot of wing chun practitioners. I’ve trained with many of them. Some of them are my students. As far as I understand it, wing chun primarily addresses a single range of combat: trapping and hand fighting while squared up directly with an opponent. That’s something that exists in fighting, but it’s less than 5% of what an actual fight is. If you already know how to fight, you can probably draw a lot of inspiration from wing chun. For example, my friend Tyler, “the Wing Chun Pilgrim” has a great video on combining wing chun concepts with the closed guard top position in the context of an MMA fight. It’s not “wing chun” per se, but if it were not for his experience with wing chun, he would not have made that innovation.

I know a guy who's into mma that sparred with an actual , pressure tested king fu guy. He won of course. But he said that the king fu guy took it with good humor. Said something like "maybe if there were still bandits in the mountains I might've had a chance"

We all know when he spent time at the shaolin temple they never let him into the tombs. He needs to behind the mountain into the bombs where the monks keep the body of their founder. On top of the grave shits a shaolin master in lotus position who haven't moved or eaten in 40 years. He needs to go dust off that old guy, and challenge him to a duel. 🤣

Can a shaolin monk actually fight? ...Depends on the monk. And the style they use! Some styles are better then others! And that goes for ALL martial arts! I will respect your style, but i will continue to learn Northern Shaolin as well! It helps me get stronger and more flexible, which are both things you need in a real fight!

@asianfighter62

4 жыл бұрын

Herowebcomics the MMA UFC sport fighters don't know how to fight against weapons. Monks train and fight with weapons the same with Samurais and Ninjas. MMA sport fighters like Dewey never been in a fight. Him and his guest will die in the streets or hospitalized.

@SpaghettiToaster

4 жыл бұрын

@@asianfighter62 Lmao. Do monks train with guns? Because if they train with melee weapons I have bad news for you.

@NPC-gl8xp

4 жыл бұрын

@@asianfighter62 😂😂 that's a really gay thing to say. Seriously you should be hella embarrassed you even wrote that 😂😂

@paolopappalardo9976

4 жыл бұрын

WING CHUN if you think that wing chung cosplay gives you the tools to defend agains wepons your life is in danger.

Is this a reupload or have I heard this guy say the same thing somewhere else? Or ..... Dejevu?

Great video, the truth needs to be heard ! I have a question: do fighters often get Tinnitus ? What is the situation of fighters that get hit in the ear/head region, do many of them get Tinnitus ? Is there perhaps any advice out there on what to do to minimize this risk ?

@summbuddie9120

2 жыл бұрын

Hi, not Ramsey but short term tinnitus is very common in all contact sports, and the best way to deal with that is to have headgear but as you know that’s not the done thing in mma and boxing to force fighters to also have to think about head positioning. As long as you meet with an audiologist and keep and eye on it you should be ok but freak incidents do happen where permanent tinnitus or hearing loss could happen. TL;DR don’t get hit in the head

Kinda miss the old days of different styles. Now everyone knows the same styles and fight with the same styles.

@39Hundred

5 жыл бұрын

ihavetubes So True. I love watching my old VHS tapes and DVDs of the original UFCs and Battlecade: Extreme Fighting. It was like Bloodsport or the Street Fighter video game brought to life. Fighters with different styles. No weight classes. Today, since everyone pretty much uses the same skill set, it’s all about who is the better athlete with better cardio.

@neidhartmuller8804

5 жыл бұрын

@@39Hundred everyone uses the techniques that work and do away with unnecessary stuff

@elenchus

5 жыл бұрын

I miss it too. It was a lot more intellectually interesting, even if the fights were usually more one-sided. But the styles are changing. For a long time BJJ dominated, then it was BJJ + Muay Thai, and now those are being phased out in favor of boxing and wrestling.

@varanid9

5 жыл бұрын

@@39Hundred Isn't that the point? To level the playing field as much as possible? I mean, it would be meaningless if I beat my opponent using something he couldn't do or had any knowledge of. It wouldn't show that I had out-trained him. Hell, might as well pull out a baseball bat if that's what I want.

@varanid9

5 жыл бұрын

@silent mental aporoach You may be right. According to Chael Sonnen, the best MMA fighters are strikers with poor wrestling.

I’ve lived and trained at the temple schools as well...I’m not sure how long he was there and under what conditions, but application work is commonplace now, has been for a long time. Xanda is regularly trained full contact even from a young age, and at higher levels chin na and grappling skills. You can’t reduce the value of a martial art to cage fighting...but if you’re going to there are serious fighters in these camps now. They are just not in all schools... there are literally hundreds of schools in the Shaolin Temple region. I agree in holding a martial art to its practical applications as a baseline, but I don’t think this was an accurate characterization of where/what Shaolin training is.

@fazares

2 жыл бұрын

yes..cage fighting isnt the be all of martial arts

Dr Antonio when I was there at Shaolin on the mountainside, we did spar, Sanda..it is a good system in many ways...and I paid zero and spent time and train there from 1998 to about 2004 on and off...there is a lot of good stuff...Tai Chi among them, as well as many weapon forms...I think FMA is cool...

Watched a documentary once where it was said that Xin Yi Ba was closer to what the fighting monks were taught than what is currently on show at Shaolin. Maybe they had more opportunities to test their skill in the old days too. They almost certainly had a better working knowledge of how to apply what was practised in the forms. Would those monks have faired well in an octagon? We'll never know. That wasn't a threat they had to deal with. Was the art they learned fit for purpose at that time, in that environment? Possibly.