Can Racing Be A Business? Motorsports Attorney Explains 3 Reasons to Register a Business

Racing is not JUST a hobby, but instead can be a profitable and legitimate business. In this episode, Liz Joiner, a Florida-licensed Motorsports Attorney, discusses the difference between a hobby and a business and 3 reasons why you should consider registering a business for your race team.
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Пікірлер: 96

  • @RegularJoes
    @RegularJoes Жыл бұрын

    When I raced Nascar Grand Am Modifieds in to 90's, I ran it as a business. All good with the IRS, made money, spent money, paid taxes on the money I made.

  • @paulrevere47
    @paulrevere47 Жыл бұрын

    Yup, the Inc. and DBA help with a ton of windows to open in the tax code. KEEP ALL RECEIPTS...ALLLL OF 'EM.

  • @highspeedhustle

    @highspeedhustle

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes!

  • @FastDaddy33
    @FastDaddy33 Жыл бұрын

    WHO DOESN'T LOVE A CUTE, SMART BRUNETTE? :)

  • @dirtberger4533

    @dirtberger4533

    Жыл бұрын

    Wright I was just thinking that,lol then saw your comment.

  • @BigDmike24

    @BigDmike24

    Жыл бұрын

    For real!!

  • @robertengster5643
    @robertengster5643 Жыл бұрын

    Hey ,cool ,cool ,cool Keep it moving forward, Glad Legal steps are bought forward...Your doing the right thing,plus on the right Track here.. Not only propelling business for yourself.

  • @highspeedhustle

    @highspeedhustle

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks 🖤

  • @bodine4479
    @bodine4479 Жыл бұрын

    Josh you’ve done well with y’all’s Business

  • @jeremyfowler7505
    @jeremyfowler7505 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for posting. I seen the TikTok but never seen this.

  • @the_lenny_draper
    @the_lenny_draper Жыл бұрын

    When I ran a hobby car way back in 2000, 2001 and 2002, I ran it through my business, KSL Racing. I good tax attorney is for sure key. :)

  • @markturan2700
    @markturan2700 Жыл бұрын

    I know how to make a small fortune racing,start with a large fortune.

  • @davidvanbrunt4233

    @davidvanbrunt4233

    Жыл бұрын

    Fact !!!

  • @jasonlong3929
    @jasonlong3929 Жыл бұрын

    Very smart lady!!!!

  • @highspeedhustle

    @highspeedhustle

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! 🖤

  • @rodconner9079
    @rodconner9079 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you HTF Lady! Great info! ... Playing costs --- esp in racing; can be a simple sport and it can be more involved. Be Safe

  • @highspeedhustle

    @highspeedhustle

    Жыл бұрын

    You are so welcome!

  • @davidarthur1542
    @davidarthur1542 Жыл бұрын

    I just came across your channel. I am impressed with your ability to explain legal issues in business terms. I am a retired corporate attorney who spent much of my 40 years of practice explaining the law to business people, so I know it's not easy. It's obvious you understand the business as well as the law. Too many attorneys have no idea what the business client is thinking, and so don't explain the law in terms that the business person will understand.

  • @highspeedhustle

    @highspeedhustle

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! I really appreciate the feedback and compliment!

  • @grumpyfeller
    @grumpyfeller Жыл бұрын

    Even as a fan I find this type of content very interesting! Thanks for bringing this to us🏁🇺🇸

  • @highspeedhustle

    @highspeedhustle

    Жыл бұрын

    Our pleasure!

  • @thebum7559
    @thebum7559 Жыл бұрын

    Best free consolation... I just saved 500-1000 by listening to you now I'm going to spend that money into my business

  • @timothysloan5195
    @timothysloan5195 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the informative video! Look forward to more business side of racing content! Go HTF team!

  • @highspeedhustle

    @highspeedhustle

    Жыл бұрын

    More to come!

  • @tbone67gthenderson78
    @tbone67gthenderson78 Жыл бұрын

    Great information for these race teams very good video 😎

  • @highspeedhustle

    @highspeedhustle

    Жыл бұрын

    Awesome! I’m glad it was helpful!

  • @bodine4479
    @bodine4479 Жыл бұрын

    Very smart business move

  • @rickw.8399
    @rickw.8399 Жыл бұрын

    That was a great video I would love to here more about the business aspect of becoming a business in a race team.

  • @highspeedhustle

    @highspeedhustle

    Жыл бұрын

    Great!! We have a lot more content planned exactly on this subject!

  • @thatcurveguy
    @thatcurveguy Жыл бұрын

    Great video, Liz. I'm sure their are teams that will benefit from it.

  • @highspeedhustle

    @highspeedhustle

    Жыл бұрын

    I hope so!

  • @CARyan08
    @CARyan08 Жыл бұрын

    Awesome info here.

  • @highspeedhustle

    @highspeedhustle

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you think so!

  • @truespeed2020
    @truespeed2020 Жыл бұрын

    Great video. I'm a up and coming gunsmith. This information is spot on.

  • @highspeedhustle

    @highspeedhustle

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad it was helpful!

  • @alkennedy1124
    @alkennedy1124 Жыл бұрын

    Like you said don’t get us any red flags here in information ℹ️ too right, thanks you are getting it done ✅ vary good HTF financials thank for supporting my HTF NATION too , I started that little saying way back , when I found dirt Daddy’s hunt the front Y2K racing channel, thanks BigAl California

  • @lanceplant29x
    @lanceplant29x Жыл бұрын

    Great video and this info is what I have been looking for!! I am a smaller team from Tx but I’m always looking for ways to be more professional and more appealing for potential sponsors.

  • @highspeedhustle

    @highspeedhustle

    Жыл бұрын

    Great to hear!

  • @teresagoodwin7458
    @teresagoodwin7458 Жыл бұрын

    This video is priceless and very valuable for those shoestring racers and to those that generate lot's of sponsorship dollars!! Thanks for sharing your wealth of knowledge with us fans and those who want to go all in for full-time racing 🏁🏆🏁 What an asset to the whole HTF team and others who are learning how to turn their much loved hobby into a real business. Thanks for an excellent video and providing much needed information 💞🤗💞 YOU are a Precious Priceless Treasured Blessing to the HTF family and so many others. This Dirt Track Racing Loving and HTF Fan loves y'all at HTF and your precious respective families 💞🤗💞 GOD BLESS YOU ALL AND MAY Y'ALL HAVE A FANTASTIC BLESSED RACING SEASON IN 2023🏁🏆🏁💞🤗💞🏁🏆🏁🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @adverzuz4330
    @adverzuz43308 ай бұрын

    This is really helpful. I am trying to enter the industry however i am currently located in Canada, and the industry is not big here unfortunately, but we are still going to push for the win

  • @billanderson6826
    @billanderson6826 Жыл бұрын

    WOW, Fantastic info thank you so much!! I think Liz just put down all that crap advice that most of your accountants have provided to you. Thanks Again!

  • @highspeedhustle

    @highspeedhustle

    Жыл бұрын

    You are so welcome!

  • @scottdickinson613
    @scottdickinson613 Жыл бұрын

    Joshua is one lucky man. Beautiful and smart. Very good insight. Thank you.

  • @richardfish1482
    @richardfish1482 Жыл бұрын

    Now we know where the real brains of H T F comes from ! You have some great women standing with you ! ! !

  • @MrShawnLester
    @MrShawnLester Жыл бұрын

    Great Content.. Keep it coming Please.

  • @highspeedhustle

    @highspeedhustle

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! Will do!

  • @saleen367
    @saleen367 Жыл бұрын

    I heard a statistic recently that stated the most audited tax returns by the IRS is racing entities. That should tell everyone to be extremely careful just "throwing together" a business for racing. Consult with an attorney before doing anything and plan to spend more than you think.

  • @wideslammer
    @wideslammer Жыл бұрын

    Even though I'm not a racer, this was an interesting video. Using the race track as a background was a nice touch.

  • @highspeedhustle

    @highspeedhustle

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!!

  • @1jeffscap
    @1jeffscap Жыл бұрын

    Smart woman Liz!!!!!

  • @highspeedhustle

    @highspeedhustle

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!! 🖤

  • @darrennorman8451
    @darrennorman8451 Жыл бұрын

    Great information! I had to turn in a tax forum last year and have been thinking about it. I may have to start an LLC this year. 🤔

  • @highspeedhustle

    @highspeedhustle

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad it was helpful!

  • @donanderson9477
    @donanderson9477 Жыл бұрын

    Very informative . ✌✌👌

  • @highspeedhustle

    @highspeedhustle

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you think so!

  • @cooper8j
    @cooper8j Жыл бұрын

    If I am doing in car video of a friends late model and posting them on youtube, should i registor as a business with only videoing?

  • @alkennedy1124
    @alkennedy1124 Жыл бұрын

    Yes I am looking for people that love race cars and race tracks with money 💰 and the means to help me build my race track out here in the desert 🏜 California, where you guys could come for your next summer vacation hint hint lol thanks ,p.s. keep my family in prayer my sis loss family child member ok thank you Liz , your awesome thank you for helping support the hunt the front ,and us thanks BigAl California.

  • @stevekennedy5802
    @stevekennedy5802 Жыл бұрын

    As a business can I right off parts I buy for a race team that is not set up as a business?

  • @imsowright90
    @imsowright90 Жыл бұрын

    Good info.

  • @highspeedhustle

    @highspeedhustle

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you think so!

  • @rebeccareeves1549
    @rebeccareeves1549 Жыл бұрын

    Hi 5 Liz! 🥰

  • @highspeedhustle

    @highspeedhustle

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!! Obviously it took me a long time to get the courage to post this one haha

  • @PetersOutdoors
    @PetersOutdoors Жыл бұрын

    Great job, I just got my LLC and this content is extremely helpful! I am wondering how to get “good” sponsorships? As a LLC, what do I have to offer with our off-road race team and KZread channel?

  • @user-hl6ls8sv4t

    @user-hl6ls8sv4t

    Жыл бұрын

    Eyes/community

  • @mkenton64
    @mkenton64 Жыл бұрын

    Great vid!!! very informative, so.... What if I was wanting to purchase land and build a dirt track? Would these legal practices also align with owning it?

  • @nikolausotto4504
    @nikolausotto4504 Жыл бұрын

    I'm interested in hearing more about being a motorsports attorney

  • @CDeese39
    @CDeese39 Жыл бұрын

    So how do you go about making it a business and what all is needed in order to do so?

  • @rolokyber
    @rolokyber Жыл бұрын

    If that the race Joseph finished 1st last year?

  • @highspeedhustle

    @highspeedhustle

    Жыл бұрын

    It wasn’t :( It ended up being a rough weekend.

  • @jodywells7519
    @jodywells7519 Жыл бұрын

    Brains ! Beauty and a racer ! Some guys have all the luck!

  • @highspeedhustle

    @highspeedhustle

    Жыл бұрын

    Awe thank you!

  • @blacksheepexpedition6347
    @blacksheepexpedition6347 Жыл бұрын

    Volunteer Crew Liability and Paid crew hours of work..

  • @highspeedhustle

    @highspeedhustle

    Жыл бұрын

    These are great topics! I’ve added them to the list for future videos!

  • @DRES051K
    @DRES051K Жыл бұрын

    🤔🤔🤔 I definitely need to do this I need more information on how

  • @chuckielepsch612
    @chuckielepsch612 Жыл бұрын

    Hello Elizabeth, I own my own small business, and I also race super late models in Pennsylvania. Is there a limit as to what I can write off in regards to the race car, and the advertisement that I do with my race team?

  • @michaelhardy6879
    @michaelhardy6879 Жыл бұрын

    Whats a good way to present the benefits of a sponsorship?

  • @MCscarfacematt
    @MCscarfacematt Жыл бұрын

    yes absalutly register think of the filing fees as an investment my dad ran his all on his own until he got in over his head and offed himself because his wife found out how much he was spending

  • @davidvanbrunt4233

    @davidvanbrunt4233

    Жыл бұрын

    Crap.....sorry pal !

  • @mattmiller245
    @mattmiller245 Жыл бұрын

    I have a few questions about the right way to go about starting a race team

  • @vincentgerdi28
    @vincentgerdi28 Жыл бұрын

    Do you see yourself venturing out into your own firm or would that be a conflict of interest with your current employer if not do you think that some clientele would move to your firm

  • @ttstang89
    @ttstang898 ай бұрын

    How would you recommend someone who is paying for this sport on their own move it into a functioning business?

  • @jasonpowell4847
    @jasonpowell4847 Жыл бұрын

    What are the increased cost to change over to this rather than run it as a normal out of pocket hobby?

  • @tbs74831
    @tbs74831 Жыл бұрын

    I dont understand how average people can afford to race any car, much less a late model. Maybe im missing something. Just buying the chassis is expensive.

  • @danielarney9729
    @danielarney9729 Жыл бұрын

    Spend 2 million dollars to make 1 million racing. She must be legal help for tracks.

  • @cupwalker24.7
    @cupwalker24.7 Жыл бұрын

    I am a Hillbilly ;) that spends $100,000 a year of his hard earned money on racing (Hobbies) with the intention to make a profit . But I never win 😂 so it's all gone .

  • @Retired70
    @Retired70 Жыл бұрын

    Well now we know who is the brains of the outfit ..

  • @effiejollie4198
    @effiejollie4198 Жыл бұрын

    "promo sm"

  • @chrisodie2467
    @chrisodie2467 Жыл бұрын

    Uhh..yes..I'm from Missouri and raced and claimed it as a business..how you think alot of locals race with sponsorship?? Duh..farmers..they claim that crap..reason why they get to go racing with haulers and buy tractors..nexxxxt

  • @highspeedhustle

    @highspeedhustle

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly! If done right, it absolutely is a legitimate business and you should then be able to tax advantage of all the benefits of having a business!

  • @MrMarvin444
    @MrMarvin444 Жыл бұрын

    Lol the IRS does not agree with her opinion. Do not take her advice. I’ve been audited and I’ve been penalized when you do step up and get into the NASCAR level that I’m in now it is recognized but at the local level the IRS will butcher you.

  • @Hardworkingman870

    @Hardworkingman870

    Жыл бұрын

    Must have a terrible accountant number 1 and number 2 didn't set up LLC or similar and operate it as a separate business..

  • @jbabister
    @jbabister Жыл бұрын

    anyone that says u cant... they just dont understand how its done or dont want to put the time in to do it

  • @highspeedhustle

    @highspeedhustle

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes 🙌

  • @alkennedy1124
    @alkennedy1124 Жыл бұрын

    Oh I forgot everyone needs to go over to gentry and sons KZread and hit the likes and subscribe, there shop burned all the way down with family heirloom vehicles and motorcycles and big rigs and all of their tools and equipment to work on their trucks for their trucking company burned up , there the ones that has been hauling the freedom factory cars for clteetus to all of the shows and burn out contest with car haulers really nice ones , anyway check ‘em out thanks gentry and sons on KZread ,