Suspension Setup, Adjustments, and Testing

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The basics of suspension setup, adjustments, and testing as they apply to race cars. Most of the info is the same for anything with adjustable suspension from dirt bikes, street bikes, mountain bikes, ATVs, UTVs, and whatever else you might have in the shed.
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  • @bassert2816
    @bassert28164 жыл бұрын

    "Remember kids, the only difference between screwing around and science is writing it down"

  • @nicholaspalastro497
    @nicholaspalastro4976 жыл бұрын

    This was a fantastic video and deserves way more views. This channel is definitely doing the right things. You guys make it easy to bridge the gap from being just an auto enthusiast to an actually knowledgeable auto geek.

  • @Teamoneilrally

    @Teamoneilrally

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Nicholas!

  • @KYLE47506

    @KYLE47506

    3 жыл бұрын

    Agree 100%

  • @KYLE47506

    @KYLE47506

    3 жыл бұрын

    This was best video I have ever seen on suspension set up it really takes car enthusiasts and turns them into knowledgeable car fans. Great job guys keep up the good work awesome. I really learnt alot from this video

  • @DasE30Cuz
    @DasE30Cuz6 жыл бұрын

    You guys are doing the lord's work.

  • @antolivdiaz

    @antolivdiaz

    3 жыл бұрын

    @dicax ah yes one of these dumbasses that talks shit because not eceryone thinks his way and knows nothing of what he says, firstly wether you believe or not it is extremely disrespectful to bash on people for their beliefs, might as well be racist. secondly if you wish to know more than I'll explain from my Roman Catholic belief in a way that will make sense: god said that he wasnt gonna interfere with earth and just let things play out, the earth isnt a puppet that god controls, people can choose to be good or bad, he lets bad things happen, people stop believing (like he said would happen) and that shows how people give up easily. God doesnt get rid of the devil because he isn't like people that hate on things, he just sent him out.

  • @lizzardking3276

    @lizzardking3276

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@antolivdiaz lol damn, hope you having better day a year later 🤭🤭😂🤣

  • @trykozmaksym
    @trykozmaksym6 жыл бұрын

    This is so good and valuable - I can't believe I'm watching it for free. Wish you guys endless queue of students to your school. Thank you!

  • @brandonsever2576
    @brandonsever25766 жыл бұрын

    Love this channel. No clickbait, just great content with very well spoken teachers. I hope I can make the trip up to Team O'neal someday.

  • @anxdmeme4208
    @anxdmeme42084 жыл бұрын

    This is the best video on suspension I've seen

  • @hjkFB
    @hjkFB5 жыл бұрын

    This was an extremely informative video. Thank you. I don't even own a car, but I am probably going to use this for DiRT Rally. :)

  • @sriramvellore8140

    @sriramvellore8140

    5 жыл бұрын

    same here !!

  • @MrLitz52

    @MrLitz52

    5 жыл бұрын

    Exactly who watched. And best set up videophone we found yet.

  • @2ndAveScents

    @2ndAveScents

    3 жыл бұрын

    Man I’m hoping this applies in the simulation for Dirt Rally 2

  • @beebbeebimajeep8278
    @beebbeebimajeep82784 жыл бұрын

    Cool now i know how to setup my Evo VI for that god awful Argentina stage in Dirt Rally 2.0 ;)

  • @orcinus6792

    @orcinus6792

    3 жыл бұрын

    i love argentina

  • @bldsprt518

    @bldsprt518

    3 жыл бұрын

    Should I get 2.0 if I never play 1.0?

  • @monoxidedark

    @monoxidedark

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bldsprt518 yes

  • @EndureRacing
    @EndureRacing2 ай бұрын

    6 years later still kicking.. Gonna be rewriting that whiteboard and stick it somewhere 😅 thanks 💪🏽💪🏽

  • @aqibbhatti6482
    @aqibbhatti64826 жыл бұрын

    There's a wealth of knowledge in this video. Seriously thank you for taking the time to do this, can't explain how much it helps to have somewhat of a rule book when trying to figure out a good setup. This page deserves so much more attention.

  • @larwentz
    @larwentz3 жыл бұрын

    Don’t think I’ve found many videos at all that talk about these adjustments. Been looking for videos about general under/oversteer guides. Thanks!

  • @ddd228

    @ddd228

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's all about spring rates and sway bars, mostly.

  • @robertkonchan197
    @robertkonchan1974 ай бұрын

    Wow! Thank you for sharing your knowledge. Great video! You just saved me a lot of time dialing in my first all purpose car. Thank you.

  • @chameleonh
    @chameleonh6 жыл бұрын

    An advice I found on dampers from sim racers (rFactor 1 if I recall correctly)(sic): " There's basically four kinds of "bouncing": * One is where the damper are set too soft so that the springs start to oscillate. * The second is where the springrate is set too low and the car starts to bottom out either hitting the ground or hitting the limits of suspension travel. * The third bounce is where the springs and dampers are set too tight and the car start to hover over bumbs. * Fourth is when the car is transferring so much weight on front tires that the other tires start to lose their grip. This phenomenon is accentuated if the bounce happens only in the initial turning phase just before the apex when the load on the outside front tire is greatest. Inside wheels start to loose grip because of unloading, all the weight and need for grip is transferred to the outside wheel, the laws of physics steps in and the outside tire starts to slip; it looses grip, weight is transferred back to inside wheels, they loose grip and so on, the car starts twitching and skipping. Too low/high antiroll bar is the case combined with poor suspension settings. Rarest of them all since it needs a lot of variables combined for it to happen. It also feels mostly like twitching and sliding not bouncing. Also any combination of too tight springs on the rear/too soft on front combined with too tight rebound on rear/too soft bound on front, ie any kind extreme unbalance causes unpredictable behavior. Finding out what is the cause is not always easy... Experimentation and experience is the only key. Telemetry analyze with MoTec can help if you're able to read the info correctly. Bottoming is easiest to find, if you start to tighten the springs one click at a time the problem should go away. Oscillation can be found on the straights, if the car bounces a lot after it hits the bumb, tighten dampers. Hovering feels mostly like lo-grip conditions. EDIT: Oh yeah, one tip i got from a real life racer: if the car spins from the curbs (too high fast damping), lower rebound settings, both fast and slow. From my experience, start with the rear fast rebound. " Opinions appreciated

  • @Strakos0

    @Strakos0

    5 жыл бұрын

    LOL MAN I was looking for a real tips in the commentary section for street setup(not too tight but still well for cutting street city apexes with bumps) Anyway this feels you got some insight to it.

  • @handre8969

    @handre8969

    4 жыл бұрын

    When it comes to handling I feel like the whole "softer in the front, harder in the rear" if it's understeering and "harder in the front, softer in the rear" if it's oversteering, are some good general rules but can be a little misleading. IMO it's best to think about what the dampers are doing, when, and what you want to happen. If I am understeering too much while decreasing the brake and increasing the steering (corner entry trail braking), the inside front of the car would be in Rebound while the outside rear would be in Bump. To get more oversteer then, it would make sense to decrease the front low-speed Rebound and increase the rear low-speed Bump (leaving the front low-speed Bump and rear low-speed Rebound alone), but that's really it or I'm going to risk affecting the handling in other parts of the corner. Other than that it's kinda trial and error because what you thought was happening might have not been what was happening at all.

  • @sharmanshah3647
    @sharmanshah36475 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic explanation! You just managed to simplify what seemed to me like the most complex subject all my life. Thank you.🙏🏽

  • @WastelandMutt
    @WastelandMutt2 жыл бұрын

    You guys inspired us to get into tuning our crosskart. All of you're videos have been a great lesson for us. Shout out for the whole team! Unfortunetly we live in Belgium and can not pick up a lesson at the school itself. But these video's allready have been a great help.

  • @Spivster46
    @Spivster466 жыл бұрын

    By far the best explanation on setup I've found to date. Thanks for sharing!

  • @steveogle8942
    @steveogle89423 жыл бұрын

    I've been around racing all my life and I knew most of this, but this is the best short explanation I've ever seen. Well done.

  • @chris_b44
    @chris_b446 жыл бұрын

    Great video, thank you for including high speed and low speed! My KWs came with a guide that has one sentence to describe high and low speed compression so I never really understood how to set them up and was going to set them up as I would for a single adjustable compression but now I’ve made an excel sheet which copies your chart that gives me a guide to bring to track!

  • @Housesider
    @Housesider6 ай бұрын

    This is hands down the best description/explanation of tuning methodology for damper compression/extension I've ever seen. Grazie!

  • @josueneto3
    @josueneto35 жыл бұрын

    I took the screenshot but watched your explanation over and over. This is just gold👌 best video from you guys so far. Thank yoi

  • @handelmotors
    @handelmotors3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the AMAZING vid and thorough instruction!!! This helps Immensely!!! I just purchased my first set of coilovers and can’t wait to test everything at my next track day!!!

  • @gabriels.713
    @gabriels.7136 жыл бұрын

    Wow, sick! I didn't think you guys were going to actually do it, thanks!

  • @GPZ_Biker
    @GPZ_Biker4 ай бұрын

    Fantastic explanations. Great knowledge and energy. Loved it. Thanks

  • @TomPidden
    @TomPidden3 жыл бұрын

    Just rebuild the whole back end of my wrx wagon, will defiantly be referring to this vid when sorting out the rear suspension. Thanks for your time and effort in this video! To the point and clear

  • @ianbarker4050
    @ianbarker40506 жыл бұрын

    I LOVE these videos, I live in NH and have always wanted to spend a weekend at your school but unfortunately its a little out of my price range. I know these videos don't replace or compare to going to rally school but its the closest I can get and they're so informative and professional. Keep up the great work guys!

  • @OIJOIJOIJ2
    @OIJOIJOIJ26 жыл бұрын

    Идеально разложил по полочкам! Столько полезной информации за 30 мин я ещё никогда не получал.

  • @TheJamiedae
    @TheJamiedae6 жыл бұрын

    You hit every nail on the head for so many situations! Lol make it adjustable comment never been more true. I am recommending this video in so many other channel's video comments section so I don't need a chapter to help out when people ask about what mods to do. Can't wait to get myself to your school to learn how to drive my cars faster and more importantly safer when I'm driving faster.

  • @9550raja
    @9550raja5 жыл бұрын

    The detailing for the use of camber according to the terrain made me think how and what for the double wishbone suspensions work..! Love the content!! 13/10

  • @SanHydronoid
    @SanHydronoid6 жыл бұрын

    Great video! I'm surprised there isn't much views for it. This is right up there with Engineering explained.

  • @mixworks-de
    @mixworks-de3 жыл бұрын

    Excellent - well put together in a simplified form. Thank you!

  • @Arctic222Avenger
    @Arctic222Avenger6 жыл бұрын

    Wish this video was around when i started playing DiRT Rally... All of these settings are in the game, and i wasn't sure what half of them did exactly, so my setup was almost always out of whack.

  • @gewow
    @gewow5 жыл бұрын

    This is a damn excellent video and you are greatly appreciated, man

  • @Tycy2014
    @Tycy20142 жыл бұрын

    I was really happy to find I was doing the right stuff to my car under just pure suspension. This just cleared up my feelings and what I experienced when twicked cars but now I want to take a class on suspension geometry.... gonna have to add a class to my list now.

  • @Aris_Groumpos
    @Aris_Groumpos5 жыл бұрын

    Happiest 30 minutes of my life

  • @2FIRacing
    @2FIRacing2 жыл бұрын

    This has been the most informative and useful video regarding suspension setup on a track car I've seen. Thank you so much for making this. This has helped my understanding greatly.

  • @lenaeleomar
    @lenaeleomar6 жыл бұрын

    Its video change my life. Thank you very much!

  • @ianguy2324
    @ianguy23246 жыл бұрын

    Great Basic advice explain in a way easy to understand. Brilliant Job. I loosing my way with multi adjustable suspensions and stuff now - but reminded me to keep simple! :) MANY THANKS

  • @lesliecampbell4099
    @lesliecampbell40994 жыл бұрын

    Very informative video. Thank you for taking the time to share this

  • @fr33kout82
    @fr33kout82 Жыл бұрын

    Liked the soup analogy, lol I took 4 pages of notes on this video to get the information in my head, and also as a point of reference. Very good video!

  • @camerone397
    @camerone3976 жыл бұрын

    Easily one of your best videos. Super dense and useful information.

  • @playlistforkids
    @playlistforkids3 жыл бұрын

    Finding this in 2021. Wyatt is the man. Thanks for this

  • @HollidaySpessa
    @HollidaySpessa3 жыл бұрын

    i feel like the vids on the channel like this are such a god-tier resource for people, and that maybe the car control eps and these types of eps should be mandatory viewing for anyone remotely interested in high performance driving or sim racing. i recommend them to so many people, they are so helpful ESPECIALLY for ppl just getting into this kind of stuff where it's like the holy grail of info.

  • @JoseMorales-vw4qf
    @JoseMorales-vw4qf5 жыл бұрын

    Great explanation and chart, straight to the point. Thanks

  • @XzessTool
    @XzessTool6 жыл бұрын

    You guys are fantastic. Very good at explaining things as they truly use at real life, not that tech teorethical analisis. Thanks for this.

  • @AvexTrax0000
    @AvexTrax0000 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks guys! The video really helps alot on high speed & low speed Compression/Rebound. Simple & easy to understand

  • @RockNeurotiko
    @RockNeurotiko5 жыл бұрын

    This videos are wonderful and really helpful, thanks for the hard work!

  • @thelexkex
    @thelexkex4 жыл бұрын

    best video on suspension setup that i've found. thank you!

  • @shawnwedge5833
    @shawnwedge58334 жыл бұрын

    Good video, I knew most of it but the order makes this a valuable tuning tool. They are right, this should have more views!

  • @codyelkin
    @codyelkin6 жыл бұрын

    This is an amazing resource!! I hope I can visit your school one day! As to video suggestions, maybe some overviews of setting up a car's engine and powertrain for rally specifically and/or track use. Such as a general overview of what you need to build a basic/budget rally car. Keep up the good work, and I'll be sharing this with my buddies! -Cody

  • @garrettchappell3786
    @garrettchappell37863 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much. This is exactly what I wanted to understand what I need to do. Good that I had the right idea at least. Just nice to have the confirmation

  • @monjier
    @monjier2 жыл бұрын

    This combined with a handling/suspension tuning book, is perfect. I've wanted to complete my full suspension build for years but always had to put finances first. Maybe 2022 is the year I make the changes? I originally wanted a RallyX setup but I think a track setup with rough roads might be the better choice. The spring rates would be for smooth surfaces. This lets me have higher spring rates and therefore can keep my car low enough without bottoming out. I'm glad he mentioned a 1.5x increase in spring rates from factory. Very good advice for a starting point.

  • @LboogieG12
    @LboogieG124 жыл бұрын

    @Team O'Neil awesome instructional vid. you're a great teacher. wish i knew this before my 1st track event

  • @joelbuenaventura7777
    @joelbuenaventura77774 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for dropping all of this knowledge🤯

  • @paulstabin6233
    @paulstabin62335 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. Best technical video ever.

  • @user-bn5lw2zu3z
    @user-bn5lw2zu3z2 жыл бұрын

    in 15mins this answered like 25 questions already i was wonderin about,very well and simply explained for a non race car backround car guys tryin to build somethin decent

  • @JohnSwampthingRae
    @JohnSwampthingRae5 жыл бұрын

    Best video, yet! Keep \em comin'!

  • @kieranryan4718
    @kieranryan47182 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video! Great work!

  • @Ryuuk0002
    @Ryuuk0002 Жыл бұрын

    Since I've been playing carx rally, I've been looking for videos on suspension adjustments, and I found this one

  • @joxephcars
    @joxephcars2 жыл бұрын

    I LOVE THIS VIDEO 🙏 Thank You for blessing me with this knowledge 👏

  • @ArkapravaDattaterratigers
    @ArkapravaDattaterratigers4 жыл бұрын

    very nicely explained,thanks for the great contribution

  • @dzitezracing
    @dzitezracing Жыл бұрын

    Excellent demonstration. Screenshot taken. I have a rally car RWD overpowered engine with a light butt that wants to oversteer way too easy. I will be trying these options thanks.

  • @nickamarit
    @nickamarit6 жыл бұрын

    This is such an informative vid. Thank you for making it!

  • @jameshaulenbeek5931
    @jameshaulenbeek59315 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video! Thank you very much for this.

  • @mungrel6668
    @mungrel66686 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for posting, very informative!

  • @charlie-charles
    @charlie-charles2 жыл бұрын

    Beeest guideline of all yt! On point explanation, funny, down to earth and simple for use! 👏👏👏

  • @meeterhead462
    @meeterhead4622 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for this .. certainly will help my sim racing. Really appreciate this. 💯

  • @UncleRayRayGarageEmporium
    @UncleRayRayGarageEmporium4 жыл бұрын

    I was able to calm down to the point that I could visualize the dynamic suspension. I have seen the light! Thank you!

  • @Kemicaloid
    @Kemicaloid11 ай бұрын

    I was just looking for a crash course like this one and this was so helpful and straight to the point! Thanks a lot!

  • @TacticalFragAddict
    @TacticalFragAddict3 жыл бұрын

    Best explanation I ever came across, brilliant stuff.

  • @no_russian8363
    @no_russian83636 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video. You explain all terms very simple.

  • @JTthestreetking
    @JTthestreetking4 жыл бұрын

    Always Gold my dude!!! Thanks

  • @GameBacardi
    @GameBacardi4 жыл бұрын

    I playing now Rally Dirt game, just found this video very helpful for adjust my "car"

  • @MaciejJankowskiPL
    @MaciejJankowskiPL6 жыл бұрын

    Superb explanation of car setup even for people unfamiliar with racing stuff.

  • @jostein661
    @jostein6614 жыл бұрын

    Best video on suspension setup 👌

  • @nmelol
    @nmelol2 жыл бұрын

    This knowledge is worth a lot, thanks for sharing.

  • @vetrecaGOD
    @vetrecaGOD2 жыл бұрын

    Supreme video, thank you for the explanation of quality and easy-understanding. - A random DH biker.

  • @motorsporthobby177
    @motorsporthobby1776 жыл бұрын

    Very informative. Thanks for the post. Especially rebound...I had the settings reversed, thanks for clarifying that.

  • @TrackMonkey327
    @TrackMonkey3278 ай бұрын

    Awesome video. I learned a lot.

  • @amanjeetsinghbhatia429
    @amanjeetsinghbhatia4296 жыл бұрын

    Dude you are the Chris Harris the world deserves but has not yet discovered! Love this video and channel!

  • @vikramm1726
    @vikramm17266 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the gyan.. really nice of you..thanks once again

  • @pawekiebasa4267
    @pawekiebasa42674 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Thank you!

  • @thexpto51
    @thexpto516 жыл бұрын

    Amazing video! Congratulations!

  • @nsarboc
    @nsarboc2 жыл бұрын

    This is an awesome video. Thank you so much for making it!

  • @emilgaming8327
    @emilgaming8327 Жыл бұрын

    Great info. You are awesome 😉👍 all what you say works😁 thanks , hope you will continue to share you knowledge

  • @DaniloRubilar
    @DaniloRubilar5 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video guys, thanks you so much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @whizbangery8742
    @whizbangery87424 жыл бұрын

    Thanks a lot for this!

  • @kennethdefreitas3120
    @kennethdefreitas31203 жыл бұрын

    This is great information man thank you so much I’m looking for my note book 📖 right now 👍🏾👌🏽

  • @jontuckerrally
    @jontuckerrally6 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video... the best I've seen in this topic actually. Could you do one for diffs (including AWD) please?

  • @JanneLaahanen

    @JanneLaahanen

    6 жыл бұрын

    yeah this most definitely. I don't know what it is but somehow you guys can make this stuff more understandable for me. Thank you so much!

  • @nvrlftofficial
    @nvrlftofficial5 жыл бұрын

    Some real wisdom in this. Thank you.

  • @_fast4lfa
    @_fast4lfa3 жыл бұрын

    This is amazing. Thank you so much for this my lord. Answered my questions exactly

  • @drumbri
    @drumbri3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome once again. Thank you...again!

  • @Alexander-nz1dz
    @Alexander-nz1dz6 жыл бұрын

    RCVD is a great primer to the nitty gritty of how this works as well, though much more intense. Excellent way to understand how everything comes together though. Chapter 2 - Tire Behavior alone is insane to go through.

  • @danielsmith6974
    @danielsmith69742 жыл бұрын

    This is a really a good video learn so much about car set up...thank you...

  • @medovarszkyzoltan9255
    @medovarszkyzoltan92554 жыл бұрын

    This is really awesome work!

  • @davecarsley8773
    @davecarsley87734 жыл бұрын

    I know almost nothing about this stuff. But just watching this dude, I can tell HE does. He's not just bullshiting.

  • @OmegaF77
    @OmegaF773 жыл бұрын

    This helped me immensely in Assetto Corsa. Thanks.

  • 2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Very informative.

  • @rockyzhang9404
    @rockyzhang94045 жыл бұрын

    nice video~ thx for your time.

  • @eur1gys
    @eur1gys5 жыл бұрын

    Great info - thanks for that!!!

  • @sumagayandomato3890
    @sumagayandomato38904 жыл бұрын

    I love rallying. So I subscribed to learn more.

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