Hello beautiful people. Here’s the timestamps: 00:00 Intro 04:27 Is it Acceptable for Guys to Look at Girls at the Gym? 10:44 Are Men & Women on Different Teams? 20:33 The Lack of Love & Passion in Society 29:18 Feminism’s Internal Conflict 44:08 Holding Out for Sex Robots 48:49 How Political Narratives Halt our Learning 56:59 James’s New Book 1:06:49 Importance of Finding Work You Enjoy 1:13:50 Where to Find James

@BoBo-pe3kv

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah. Men Will just have to be patient. We’re in the middle of a transitional phase. Because women technically haven’t had their individual freedom and rights for very long. Men have finally properly evolved their Egos. Now it’s just womens turn. Modern Women haven’t had enough of the time that it takes to figure out: “what happens when keeping it real goes wrong”.

@oct22022

2 жыл бұрын

Chris needs to get Dr. John Gray regarding male female socio sexual dynamics.

@juanwononeyuan

2 жыл бұрын

@@BoBo-pe3kv were transitioning alright, into a completely broken society. the egos of both men and women are only getting worse. single moms raise broken kids who don't know how to have a happy family life and raise healthy kids themselves. we're watching the destruction of generational knowledge that will be hard to ever come back from.

@erikbrus8388

2 жыл бұрын

Hello Chris! 😉 Unfortunately men and women are on opposing teams politically: 1.Female Reproductive Strategy > Female Intuition > Female anti-social-behavior > Female warfare > Abrahamic Religions > Unwarrantable false promise of freedom from laws of nature(males, europeans) by social construction using pilpul, critique, undue praise, occult->pseudoscience. 2. Abrahamic Religions -> French Socialism -> Hegelianism -> Marxism(class) -> NeoMarxism(identity) -> Postmodernism(truth) -> Anti-Male Feminism -> PC-Woke -> Anti-Europeanism (universal insurance of self determination, sovereignty, reciprocity, truth and duty before face or self) 3. The laws of the universe: Physical (scarcity), Behavioral (amoralism, acquisition, reciprocity), Evolutionary (accumulated mutation:class, regression to the mean, sexual market value, natural selection, eugenic-vs-dysgenic) and the formal laws (logic, science) to explain them. Left = Drive for Hyperconsumption (dysgenics) Left of Center = Drive for Consensus (utility) Via-Positiva Right of Center = Decide Conflicts (truth) Via-Negativa Right = Drive for Hypercapitalzation (eugenics) Once you see it as sense, perception, calculation it make sense Perfect Empirical/Scientific Government in 3 links below😉🧐: t.co/CiHesFPm0L t.co/KfOvf2qTGQ t.co/ZawDF2Kqvj Middleclass Rule! 😉 - The Middleclass is Moral 😇 Middleclass 🤔🧐: t.co/t4Qqcdd4o3 t.co/QIfRLjVzt8 1. It is extremely difficult to find something that the fascists were 'wrong' about other than dependence on a dictator rather than rule of law by natural law. In other words, 'rule of law fascism' (meaning zero tolerance) is the optimum polity for homogenous, domesticated peoples. 2. Masculine fascism, meritorious and reciprocal, aims all of society at elevating the best that society has to offer. In pursuit of “ideal”. Feminine fascism, empathetic and irreciprocal, aims all of society at elevating the worst that society has to offer. In pursuit of “equal”. 3. Best” has natural limits. Competence takes time and resources. “Worst” has no natural limits save the collapse of its carrying society. Western Corporatist Globalism is feminine fascism. Demonstrating fascism’s efficacy as well as the risk it poses untempered by mindfulness. POLITICAL SYSTEM FAILURE BY OVERCONFIDENCE Totalitarianism: Failure Masculine Competition Overconfidence: ^ Fascism: Maximization: Masculine Competition(Military) Contractualism: Maximization: Neutral Cooperation(Law) Socialism: Maximization: Feminine Social(Church) Overconfidence: v Communism: Failure Feminine Social

@erikbrus8388

2 жыл бұрын

1. If the right goes too far when it verges into racism and fascism. At what point does the left go too far? The question makes an assertion (proposition) that is false. The optimum group strategy is ethnocentrism. 2. The optimum political strategy is political ethnocentrism. The optimum economic strategy is intolerance for competition against ethnocentricity The optimum legal strategy is rule of law (reciprocity) that enforces non defection against ethnocentrism, 3. by a prohibition on internalization of costs and externalization of returns.(Socialization of costs, and privatization of commons). As far as I know it is impossible to find evidence, or argue logically, otherwise. 4. Everything else is a justification for parasitism by the commercial complex, religious-academy complex, or the state-tax complex. The left violates every one of those principles in order to dismantle meritocracy and ethnocentrism, 5. and to reduce us to socialist poverty - the poverty that ethnocentrism and rule of law evolved to raise us out of. This is the problem with the American Model of a Purely Market Society: without ethnocentrism it is simply suicidal, 6. since without limitations, the commercial, religio-academic, and state-tax-bureaucracy are incentivized to destroy the host population (And therefore they do) We Are All Supremacists if Only in Opposition - But Science Wins The D.

Thank you for having me!

@juliekring7574

2 жыл бұрын

Great work my dude 👏 very balanced

@wil120mm1

11 сағат бұрын

That's a follow

Hope there’s a part two to this conversation. I feel like that should’ve went on for another three hours. The momentum was there until the last words.

Had no idea this was such a problem. I’m a woman who values men, I’m tired of seeing them vilified for everything. Thanks for the video

@keylanoslokj1806

2 жыл бұрын

It is a campaign against God and as a result against man who is the direct representative of Gid on earth

@medicine2202

2 жыл бұрын

I Appreciate that you value men. There's nothing more destructive of a notion I hear from woman that "all men are shit"

@HolyRainbowism

2 жыл бұрын

Have you just landed on this planet this morning? How long do you intent to stay? Anything more than a day will make you sick to your stomach when you see the way women treat men, the way society ruled and led by feminism constantly demonises men, emasculate men, abuse men, devalues men, and pushes men out of society altogether. No wonder why the manosphere and M G T O W is spreading like wildfire amongst men. Feminism’s goal is to empower women, and they way it does is by dragging men down, demoting men, degrading men to the point of no value or worth. Feminism is a vengeful movement, full of hatred and destain for men. I’d say cut your holiday here short and leave with the next spaceship. But, hey, since you’re a woman you can stay, the world will love you. Can i use your flight ticket instead? For us men, flying to a different planet or ‘ending ourselves’ doesn’t sound so bad.

@Diego-Designs

2 жыл бұрын

This is just the tip of the iceberg. If you haven't seen the things being thrown against men, I think you should stay away from it. But if you have thick skin (I'm sure you do), then you can look around and see the crap we have to deal with, to the point that many men are just walking away.

@activatekruger446

2 жыл бұрын

Nearly every woman today has a chip on their shoulder. They’re borderline unapproachable. I wish I was gay.

Men have been trying to get out of the Friendzone for years, Chris. Why would they want to get back in it again?

@michaelhart1072

2 жыл бұрын

Get a girlfriend and also have female friends. It’s wonderful

@michaelhart1072

2 жыл бұрын

@Lisa Fenwick she has guy friends, I have female friends. It’s called trust and we both benefit from it massively. I get to hear wisdom from that men cannot give me and the same applies to her. We also have a lot of good couple friends and older marrieds from whom we get a lot of advice on how to maintain healthy relationships with friends and our own dating relationships.

@limoncr5205

2 жыл бұрын

@@torachan23 ouch

@limoncr5205

2 жыл бұрын

@Lisa Fenwick ain't that against female freedom? It's known women often have male 'friends', just in case things go sour with the legit one.

@limoncr5205

2 жыл бұрын

@Lisa Fenwick sorry abt that... but that's part of our experience. We all deserve respect and must respect our partner.

The difference between a creep bothering you and a brave guy chatting you up is not in what they say or how they look at you, but in wether you find them sexually attractive or not.

@juliekring7574

2 жыл бұрын

Eh not always. I was in a bar once and this hot professional surfer started chatting me up. He continuously leaned over me further and further until I was basically hanging out of my chair. That was creepy.

@maciejkleszczynski9808

2 жыл бұрын

@@torachan23 No matter if you are right about how strong attraction bias is it seems to me that it would be a good idea for you to rethink the reasoning that brought you to these conclusions. Think what she could have said about her own experience that you would think of as valid instead of assuming she is lying and if such sentence (which doesnt support a view you already have) even exists? I think asking oneself questions like these really helps to mitigate the effects of a lot of our own biases which unfortunately we all have

@sarahrobertson634

2 жыл бұрын

@@torachan23 You're a hostile little incel, aren't you? Any attractive man can become unattractive in a hot second if he starts acting weird. Duh.

@AdelTheForsaken

2 жыл бұрын

Sad ,but true.

@Brothaman

2 жыл бұрын

@@juliekring7574 I think OPs point is that if you didn’t find the surfer guy hot in the first place, he wouldn’t have been able to chat you up and then come off as a creep. I think OP point is that you put the guy you don’t/didn’t find hot in the creep category even before he’s had the chance to chat you up.

“This isn’t an airport, you don’t have to announce your departure” 🤣🤣🤣 this made me laugh so much haha! Love this conversation and that you’re bringing up the subject of men and women. Men are human, just as women. I had a complicated relationship to men and I still love them, just as I love other beings. We need to look more at ourselves, heal, and use both our minds and hearts to come together. This world needs more connection and not separation because we need each other more than ever. Also, chivalry is something that needs to come back more and not be deleted. Have so many thoughts on this. Anyway, love it, keep these conversations coming!! You rock! And so glad I discover James too! Much love 💗💗

@JUDALATION

Жыл бұрын

Why should Chivalry come back? That's sexist and anti men... Also men and women are doing just fine... Once men in the west realize that western women are nuts they date overseas where the women are not misandrist.

@Mike-pv3hg

Жыл бұрын

Universalist garbage

Setting smaller goals definitely works. When I was learning to walk again after a freak accident, I set myself a goal of standing for 5 seconds, 5x an hour. I was going to try and do it for 12 hours. I made 8. The next day I made the full 12 hours. By the end of the week I'd managed to get to 5 minutes. Within a month I could walk for over a mile, from nothing.

@Chicharrera.

Жыл бұрын

You learned a transferable skill. The biggest problem people have today is a lack of patience. Instant Gratification is the new God. People want what they want when they want it, which is always NOW. When I was recovering in hospital after being run over by a truck and I had finally gotten over the intense pain after the first 2 weeks on morphine shots every 4 hours I learned the valuable lesson that "time does pass". It's usually during major life events, like serious injury after an accident, when we learn the most powerful lessons of our lives. People don't value simple things like 5 seconds or 5 metres. That's too long or not long enough for them. Fast and immediate are demanded today from people. I value things like time and attention. My attention is the commodity that companies want to profit off the most. They want to make money off of my inability to take my time to think things through carefully because I'm in a hurry. My lack of attention is something they want to take advantage of. Congratulations on learning the value of time and patience.

@fredajordan5704

Жыл бұрын

@@Chicharrera. So very true.

46:20 Yes. I do think my grandparents had it better than we do now. We may have a higher standard of living (more possessions etc...) But I fully believe that they had a higher quality and satisfaction of life.

@iceni5646

2 жыл бұрын

My grandfather fought at the Somme survived but had shell shock and shrapnel lodged in his brain the doctors decided that the shrapnel in his brain would cause more problems to try to remove so it was left there for the rest of his life, he was sent back to the front and fought at Paschendale , at the end of WW1 he returned home to the Spanish flu pandemic which killed more people than WW1 then the general strike of 1926 ,the Wall Street crash of 1929 , the great depression of the 1930's and back into uniform to fight the second World War. Where I think you are right is the casualisation of work and the insecurity that creates the gig economy , work itself is better ,safer and easier but getting secure well paid work is harder , it's a return to late Victorianand Edwardian working practices where people were hired by the day . Mortgages are harder with no job security todays house prices are crazy but I had 15% interest to pay and still 8% when finished , house prices must crash all markets go down .

@felixthecat4584

2 жыл бұрын

@@iceni5646 Good points. I still feel that overall life satisfaction, interpersonal relationships, family formation, and general overall societal inequality are worse. (Or at least it seems worse due to more interconnectedness via the internet. Hence the lower life satisfaction of the average person. If you lived in a shed in Kentucky in the 1920's you were basically on par with all your neighbors and knew nothing different. Now you are exposed to photos from Instagram of people driving Ferraris and living in a penthouse in Beverly Hills on a daily basis growing up. That most assuredly takes a toll on the psyche, especially as a young person.)

@iceni5646

2 жыл бұрын

@@felixthecat4584 there is certainly a narrowing of wealth distribution even though on the global scale more are lifted out of absolute poverty . The billionaires and then the rest of us getting less all round . Personally I think ever since 2008 when Socialism for the rich was introduced and any large company that should have failed was bailed out by the tax payer who continues to be milked for corporate greed there has been a need to divide and rule the tax cow's hence since 08 ramping up racial, gender and sexuality divides so the tax cow's aren't watching the oligarchy help it self to handouts. Does anyone think a man with obvious dementia is running America.

@Xarkom89

2 жыл бұрын

Life was also much much MUCH slower. People today just want to jump to the next newest thing. If it's not gadgets, it's media consumption etc etc. Most people can hardly sit still for an hour without looking at a screen.

@Embassy_of_Jupiter

Жыл бұрын

From the end of WW2 to 1971 pretty much every quality of life indicator was improving But since 1971 all of these trends have reversed, slowly eroding quality of life until today. Median real wages have pretty much have not grown and relative to GDP per capita/productivity wages have steadily gone down. The only reason why people feel richer is that commodities have become cheaper. But if things continued the way they did before 1971, the middle class should be earning twice as much. And energy production per person has also remained stagnant since then. Energy = Prosperity so it's no wonder things didn't really improve. All this relative poverty causes all this crisis of meaning, most men aren't attractive because they aren't able to provide. So then there's less successful marriages, more children growing up without two parents, so everything deteriorates further. It's the root cause of all the societal issues we see today hookup culture etc is just a consequence of everyone (except the top 10-20%) becoming relatively poorer and inequality increasing. No families = no meaning = everyone is unhappy There's many confounding issues, but this is the main cause

"The lessons you need are in the tasks you're avoiding" Wow, that's such an amazing sentence. It's taking me almost 30 years to realize this and I really wish I would have known it sooner.

I think it's more 'Women are battling men'

“Women are overrated” B. Burr

@soulfuzz368

2 жыл бұрын

He is so much less funny since he got married.

Every time I listen in to MW I find great convos with other people I follow, or I find someone that after a few moments I think "this is someone I would love to chat with". Chris does this so well. Kudos man.

27:12 - Easy fame is an issue. Back in the 50s & 60s, you had to be a good actor, singer & dancer in order to be famous. I think they called it the triple threat. It wasn't enough to have one talent or two talents, you needed three talents to become famous. Now it's dumbed down to 0 talent to be famous, which is horrible for entertainment.

I love hearing your podcast, not shying away from taboo topics! Keep this up, you have a regular listener!

If a woman believes you are charming, that should be because you are what you are, and not what you are trying to be to impress her. If you live your life the way you want () then I think it will happen naturally, and the way that nature intended.

@off6848

2 жыл бұрын

Truth I’ve never chased even one of my exes

@TheOlzee

2 жыл бұрын

Typical chick logic. Since you’ve never had to be the one who makes everything happen. You’d get with a guy and tell your friend “oh it just happened” while a guy will ask his friend and he’d reply “oh I did this, said that, planned date here, then go there” etc etc. On top of that, and mire specifically, regarding us “trying certain things”. Since most women live in coco land men can’t just go be normal. You want too many things so men just adapt. And if all certain guys are getting all the chicks bring a bad boy, charming, sexually, cheeky, etc and have big muscles and look a certain way, etc then men will do all that. Like I said, you’re unaware of any of this cos all you do is sit back and pick the best thing that comes to you. I don’t mind that but at least wake up to the reality

@lacey2450

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheOlzee I'm a guy

@TheOlzee

2 жыл бұрын

@@lacey2450 then you’re a virgin

@TheOlzee

2 жыл бұрын

@Lisa Fenwick did you even read what I said? That’s what guys do. We don’t just “act normal” and have birds flock to us. That’s how the world works for chicks. You females are very slow, I just told you exactly how it is

45:56 That's a bloody *brilliant* remark. First we stopped having awkward conversations through the telephone when ordering, and now we use DoorDash. Same with dates and Tinder. Same with your CV and Linkedin. What could be next? What sort of awkward conversation would a new app or website eliminate?

People have lost the ability to communicate. Men and women have in turn lost the ability to communicate or gift each other because the value of these gifts (in uncertain times) is not trusted. There is not trust, long story short.

@johnathanmandrake7240

2 жыл бұрын

Women do not love men. Women take for granted everything men do, feel, and think. Men have been systematically stripped of their fathers and male role models, so we struggle to even understand what it means to be a man.

SOME men and women are battling. MANY men and women don’t bother to heal from their childhood, or heal and take responsibility for their later relationships, so they’re unconsciously reacting to and even blaming new people. Both sexes are wise to be cautious and self-protective about the people they allow into their lives, get married to, or have babies with🪞

@johnathanmandrake7240

2 жыл бұрын

Men did not have fathers. Women dont not value men. That's it.

@thaliakate444

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnathanmandrake7240 unfortunate for anyone to not have a healthy father and mother. Not sure there’s a solution for a problem so complex, but I know I won’t be part of the problem. That’s all I can control and all I’m responsible for.

I don't have problems with women. It's the gay guys. No one talks about same sex harassment. Gay guys go to the gym and hang around the locker rooms. It sucks.

This is the most British conversation ive heard in a long while Well done

@SteveJones_trevd

2 жыл бұрын

Apart from Chris' pronunciation of Gen Zed as Gen Zee. That's not British :)

@rohilthomson

2 жыл бұрын

@@SteveJones_trevd it's an American term though.

I've put out the olive branch and always invited women to go hiking, biking etc for several years. No women have offered that to me. So I've basically given up and ignore them cause so often giving the negative vibe.

@wyleecoyotee4252

2 жыл бұрын

That's too bad . Sounds like fun. I'm a woman and would prefer that to conventional activities. I'm a road cyclist and just got into gravel riding. Absolutely love it. Good luck.

@tomasr64

2 жыл бұрын

@@wyleecoyotee4252 We got gravel and sand washes. Fat tires on a sand wash with electric assist is really fun.

Amazing conversation, I loved every topic and subject. Would love to see another talk again soon!

My gosh, your podcast is so interesting and thoughtful I can't even multitasking because I am completely fixated on paying attention to the conversation.

Allow me to rephrase: 'Can we make Men & Woman care again'? That goes before being friends..

@juliekring7574

2 жыл бұрын

I'm here for this. There is a debt of love and respect across the board between the sexes, and if we could both universally invest our love and respect in each other the incentive to denigrate and exploit each other on an individual basis would fall away. I feel like we're caught in a prisoners dilemma of massive scale these days.

@juliekring7574

2 жыл бұрын

@@torachan23 see this is the energy I'm talking about. Sure, you don't have to invest your personal time and energy into any particular individual male. Maybe your dad is a deadbeat, you don't have any male siblings or cousins, you're a lesbian or asexual person, there are no men in your workplace, and you've never met a man who you would enjoy having a platonic relationship with - sure, you don't have to invest a damn thing in a man. But hopping on the internet to make a point that men generally don't deserve women's love and respect only galvanizes misogyny. It allows a misogynist to feel validated and vindicated in making an equal and opposite harsh comment about women in an equally universal way. Don't get me wrong, there have been times where I have hated men, but it's better for everyone if we have the respect to keep that hateful shit to ourselves.

@juliekring7574

2 жыл бұрын

And the same goes for misogynistic men. Putting that out into the world only makes women more likely to make overly generalized, hateful statements in response. Keep that to yourself. It's only making your own life more difficult.

@GhostlyNomad130

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think we ever stopped caring, Otherwise we wouldn't be having this discussion. It's WHAT we care about that has become the issue.

@johnathanmandrake7240

2 жыл бұрын

Men care, most women do not.

Goodlooking guys can approach and can stare. Sooo...there it is

@soulfuzz368

2 жыл бұрын

@Lisa Fenwick you wouldn’t understand

@soulfuzz368

2 жыл бұрын

@Lisa Fenwick see? told you so

@vklnew9824

Жыл бұрын

Wheat Waffles was right

18:00 - 20:30 is such a fascinating take on this. I love this. It is such a good analysis and hypothesis that treats people as human that I would usually just be like "Oh thats a crazy, I dont want anything to do with that"

We never were friends - just there were consequences of stepping outside of boundaries. Now women have no boundaries and think it's because they're fierce, when it's because we're weak.

wonderful episode. such a sincere guest. thank you!

James is an excellent guest and followed him for about 3 years on instagram but Chris is on another level with his insight. Constantly find myself shouting at the screen "yes" and "spot on" haha.

In regards to the scenario of the women getting mad at the guys who were checking her out in the gym. Women do this weird thing where you get more brownie points for having a idgaf attitude towards male attention. It normally plays out as a really attractive girl bashing the guys that show interest in her instead of enjoying it, even though on the inside she does like it. You definitely get more cool points as a women to act dumb about your desirability and to even act like your too good for it. It’s a way of showing dominance as a woman.

@Allyourneedsmet

2 жыл бұрын

hmmm....

@charlieweaver6322

2 жыл бұрын

It's called 'Bragplaining'. Essentially, they brag about how attractive they are, but frame it as a complaint, so rather than people disliking them for being a braggart, they want to receive sympathy for being a victim.

@MsR-bl1df

2 жыл бұрын

@@charlieweaver6322 haha nice, I didn’t know there was a name for it! But that’s exactly what they are doing!

@otheh2636

2 жыл бұрын

I work out at a bougie gym. Which is full of lots of young beautiful women who all dress extremely scantily clad. Now most of the men and women don't stare at each other but I'm sorry these women can't be dressing basically naked and not expect to get looked at? I'm a woman and I can't help but stare at how absolutely attractive they are but blatantly looking for male attention. I mean your kooche is hanging out! How these types of clothing help your workout I don't really understand. Any girl who says that they're dressing like that for themselves and for comfort is lying when I see them constantly pulling these short little athletic shorts out of their crotch in their asses.

@otheh2636

2 жыл бұрын

@@cantbendknee I'd say it's both.

Unironically, society would probably be better off if we just didn't even try, and bring back sex segregation. Men with mens spaces, women with womens spaces, with limited crossover spaces mostly for married couples or for singles in matchmaking.

@gfuentes8449

2 жыл бұрын

I wish I could work without male colleagues simping over the females

@ThisAutomaton

2 жыл бұрын

I mean, judging by how often women bringing up sexual harassment, you'd think they should be fully onboard with work space segregation 😂

Thank you for this. This is one of the best videos I've ever seen on KZread.

7:30 politeness and chivalry is an obligation for men? Go ahead and write into law if it's an obligation. What is an obligation for women?

Tom Hardy, the James Smith of actors.. very intelligent and enjoyable conversation gentlemen, well done

You're right! Few people can have discussions about so few things. Having lived in Germany in my youth all my friends parents were war veterans. There were no alcoholics, no ptsd, only hard working men and women, loyal husbands, good fathers & husbands, honest, loyal, fair, firm, moral, thoughtful and much more with no evidence or knowledge of extermination camps but which and confusion over what has been pinned on them. Try discuss the true HOLOCAUST of the Bombing of Dresden. NO DISCUSSION. You'll be annihilated.

What an incredible conversation guys. So many great points. 👍

@fredajordan5704

Жыл бұрын

Bon Z : So very true.

This guest's view on fighting people in BJJ is spot on for a lot of things. The fighting is uncomfortable, difficult, hard to get to but finishing said task is worth it. It's even the same for seggs in a relationship. Getting your s/o in the mood, knowing that she probably kind of wants to but also doesn't want to and having to do this push pull dynamic with the SAME person AGAIN and being annoyed by her daily repeated mistakes and then having to look past it to tease out some form of affection out of her acclimated to you bored self is super difficult but worth it. Better than having the same boring dinner at home with the same boring convos and the same routine that you default to because of comfort.

4:55 it was called the 2 second rule whenever we were on a site in the city with all the oola la's around. PS still never seen a cat call in 20 years.

*Chris cites Eliezer Yudkowsky* Ah, our values align. I knew there was a reason I resonated so often with Mr. Williamson.

Chris, thank you for commenting on firehosing and competing narratives. As a Ukrainian, I was getting very annoyed by James' thoughts on the subject until you interjected with that. Thanks for your hard work, too.

This was so much fun. Please do another one. Cheers.

I feel sorry for young folk, social media has poisoned them

Great talk! I absolutely agree about the UK dream comment and found it so crazy so many locals here did not join Erasmus!!

Great conversation looking forward to the Audio book James. Hope for a return video guys!

Nice job Chris, made lots of great points and put the wisdom in this MW episode ;)

Damn his point about the genetically advantaged being trainers is on point. I'm a trainer quite exactly due to the fact that fitness never came naturally to me and I HATE most of the other trainers in this industry. They don't know their ass from a hole in the ground and just try to make a quick buck selling bullshit that never actually helps people.

Until all the rhetoric about how bad men and maleness is stops being so widely spoken and casually misandrist I don't think so. I am 40 and have spent my entire life from childhood on hearing about how bad I am as a white male. I love women, I love their company, I spent more time with women in my developing years than men by a good margin, I have worked more with women than with men and I love women, but the abundance of anti-male rhetoric and how that allows a mindset of perpetually seeing the males as being at fault and always needing to do more has made it difficult for me to be more than friends with women. When people openly speak about how they don't trust or like what you are, it makes it hard to trust yourself.

@janesslinger2814

2 жыл бұрын

Well said

@limoncr5205

2 жыл бұрын

@@josephblowseph6123 so true... what is happening in big companies is really like that. For instance, in IT department where they are the minority, 30%, in management IT positions it's 50% men and women... how come? They are pushing women with no tech background into IT, putting them forward, putting aside men that have tech degrees... in the name of equality. Sure, in IT you can make more so it's a target for 'equality'. On the other hand there is no interest in promoting and pushing men into hr or back office teams where women are the majority. Equality is not a man's issue by default... because it was born privileged.

@reenaree1953

2 жыл бұрын

There were times in USA when women didn't have the right to vote and go to college. We should do reverse, forbid men to vote and get education? There are still countries where females are not allowed in schools. You get what you give. Not to mention all the sexual assaults men have done, statistics is just the tip of the iceberg. Men will get everything back.

@josephblowseph6123

2 жыл бұрын

@@reenaree1953 It's sad, but each response i get from women ignores what was said, misses it completely, continually ignoring the points made. (But i know a select few women DO really understand, maybe you should seek them out for a different perspective on this from women, who you might have an easier time hearing things you don't like from instead of a horrid man.) Yes, some bad men mess with women, and that's wrong. Nobody is disagreeing with that. The whole way these last two women in this "conversation" approach this really tells the tale. Both simply cannot grasp that men today should not have to pay ANY price for what past cultures saw as the norms of their times. Would it be ideal if men didn't mess wrongly with women and vice versa (as if women don't have their own ways as the smaller of the species,) yes. Nobody is excusing that, indeed that's not even what we're talking about here. And you bringing it up...wow, you really don't grasp what is being talked about here. I'm talking about the deeper issues that science shows about the difference between the sexes, and how all of that is not in line with how we "teach" today. In fact it's poisonous how we "teach" today. That matters. I also speak of numerous areas where i can prove women have huge advantage...and all you can think is "good, you guys deserves it" as if TODAYS men deserve vilification for what PAST or other men did or do today. And again, even how you frame all of the past and present is wrong, simplistic and female-centric (as my main points talk about while they go over your head.) You can't even read or comprehend what i'm getting at, the depth it goes to. All you can see is a man saying things that don't fit your preconceptions built off generations now of well intended but wrong ideas on men and women (again, my points get to those differences, but you ignore the points.) Listen, for decades i was a feminist. I know all the things you're talking about. But along the way came new info and along with the more evolved times we live in where we've been working to give women power for decades now...it all leads to a change in our approach, or it should. Nobody is saying women back to the kitchen, but you seem to just ignore and think it's ok that men work their ass off to be a great STEM scientist only for a much less qualified women to get put in simply because we think that's "equity." And why do we think doing that is OK? Because we're so set on help women even if it hurts men (as you show.) And on and on i could go with examples in education, law, families, etc. And by the way, the abuse you bring up is actually another area we are wrong about the way we've thought about that. It turns out women abuse their boyfriends and spouses physically way more than we used to think, not to mention how a woman is more likely to nag or harrass mentally men more, way more....and if the man simply with her in his face should push her off him HE'LL get in trouble, even if he didn't do anything but try to get her hitting him off of him. But the point is the ideas we base those bad laws on we now know are WRONG. But you seem to miss all of it, come off like you've just got out of your feminism 101 college indoctrination. I'm not going to respond to anymore people, men or women, who respond with such VAPID avoidance of the point (indeed i really doubt you're reachable on these points...instead you're a deep seeded ideologue, unable to see past your own centered identity as a "proud woman overcoming the patriarchy." Or something like that, i don't want to fully assume, but it's something like that.) Yes, you're so brave. In the modern US, THE best place to be a woman for the most part in history, or herstory if you prefer. The longer women go forth in such modern privilege still insisting it's so bad while ignoring the real time hardships men and boys are put through to blindly support women no matter what, the worse our relationships will be (and most laws favor you too, as i've gone over and you haven't touched.) It's as if you don't even grasp that anthropomorphic realities mean something, the fact we're mammals means something. Findings that prove we're not blank slates means something. Big things as it pertains to how we govern these issues between the sexes. Good bye.

@reenaree1953

2 жыл бұрын

Imagine if men have to guard their drinks all the time because they know there are homosexual men who drug hetero men and assault them. Imagine if men are afraid to walk alone in dark. And homosexual men are constantly trying to get you into bed. They call being friends "fridndzone" and want to sleep with you. And constantly trying to make you say "yes". Karma will teach you.

That "she's a 10 out of 10 but" thing is hilarious 🤣 I have 4 sons and we joke a lot. This is one I'm going to be sharing with them!! Lol!!

follow your passion in your career.... worst advice ever. develop a life that has passion and don't identify yourself with your career. I fixed it for you.

@julianbroughton

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. So many people fall for this trap.

@autohelix

5 ай бұрын

Very true

I don’t think men and woman were meant to be friends to begin with lol

there's no such thing as a "strong and independent" helpmate.

@michaelhart1072

2 жыл бұрын

There’s no such thing as a strong and independent woman, only a deeply hurt woman trying to distance herself from men/others to avoid more pain

@hibatuadam2777

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelhart1072 😂😂😂😂

@AdelTheForsaken

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelhart1072 thats what it is. After my mothers marriage faild (third marriage) she became a man hatter. They were horrible. And her father didnt teach her how to pick either smh.

1:10:00 - I live in the rust-belt in the US and I think we've got a lot of similarities to UK culture as you're describing it, just that we're missing some of the benefits (ie. think tall-poppy syndrome plus solipsism).

This was a nice episode with an interesting guest. Thanks

The insight about losing. Fantastic.

What a sad lonely existence - I hope we never have avatars and/or a fully virtual reality. Why do you think we have so much depression/anxiety/loneliness? Because people stay in their houses, alone. Social media has taken so much away from people. They would rather look at their phone than look up and talk to people standing in a grocery line or at the gym. I'd love to go back to a world without cellphones and social media. And I grew up in the 90s!

Men and Women are battling each other. Only on the internet. This battle doesn't exist outside social media. LOL

Very intelligent, informative discussion.

That thing about passion rings quite true, interesting.

Hey Chris, I really appreciate your podcast. Biological anthropologist, Dr Helen Fisher, could be another great guest.

43:20 - I might be in a bit less trouble since I live in the US (no Glastonbury) but on the topic of drum n bass - if Djinn, Mantra, Double-O, and MC Black-Eye were doing virtual Rupture nights, Loxy and Resound were doing great virtual Cylon / Xtinction Agenda shows, or whether it was Metalheadz, Blue Note, etc., I could see myself being less worried about when they're coming to town.

It was such a natural conversation that I got sucked into it lol

absolutely outrageous, followed

The supreme combo is back again

For me: - We tend to mistake a comfortable activity for an enjoyable one. Current you wants to do something comfortable and future you wants you to do something enjoyable.

I was wishing this collab would happen between Chris and James! Glad it finally happened, I can now die in peace haha lol

@joannemcclafferty7606

2 жыл бұрын

There are already two other podcasts with James on modern wisdom!

@wheysted1349

2 жыл бұрын

@@joannemcclafferty7606 I didn't know that, well this is the first one I've watched. Will check for the others. Thx :)

What advice do you have for women who are dating with the goal of marriage and family, and would prefer to be primarily a SAHM when the children are young? Is there a way to find a man who also desires this and won't run away the moment you communicate this preference? To elaborate: Speaking for myself, I am always focusing on my own goals, my value and worth and I think I have a lot to offer the right partner. We know that many men these days are filtering for women who have advanced themselves in both education and career. While I have passions and accomplishments I am proud of, I never went down the "career woman" path because I always knew my longterm goal was to be a mom first and foremost. I have seen many friends and family get sucked down this path of the career woman who then becomes a mom and it's not ideal - both parents working, the whole family is stressed out of their mind and struggles so much in the early years. The woman is pressured to return to work very quickly and continue to earn a significant income to cover the cost of outsourcing the child-rearing to nannies and daycare. I've never understood the point, when the mother could simply raise her own children and save a significant amount of childcare costs in the process, all the while reducing the stress and emotional toll on the family as a whole. Given that being a career woman is now the expectation, if you make the SAHM idea clear early on, most men will run away. Yet, I'm not interested in wasting my time or anyone else's by pretending I want something different. Thoughts or advice?

@beachnap

2 жыл бұрын

@Jane B Robbins I did already specify in my comment "when the children are young", so sitting around the house when the kids are older is not what I or most women of a similar perspective are asking for. Also, many men who have demanding careers appreciate having wives with a little extra time and flexibility to focus on family and home. Personally, I already have a very rewarding creative career which I do from home, and I can scale it up or down based on my needs over time. As for you, it's not clear from your comment how you see yourself fitting into all of this. Your username is Jane, so I assume you're a woman.. and it sounds like you aren't a mom yet.. Is it your goal to have children? Do you have a career which you find rewarding, and would you prefer to focus on that even after having kids? Or scale it back or even take an extended break?

@8Maduce50

2 жыл бұрын

@Lisa Fenwick lady it's takes at least 5 years to figure out if you want to marry someone. a year is too quick. Edit: men don't have pay for any dates we're supposed to be equals. Me paying for your time, tells me you don't respect my time. Wasting both my time in the present and the time spent on making that money. Also you say red pill are just going to abuse you. Well traditional women just abuse men with their incessant demands on what a partner should provide. And instead of love, affection and commitment you opt for money. You deserve the unhappy marriage you arrive at.

@yofinance1777

Жыл бұрын

Good luck

On the topic of looking at and complimenting people in the gym - my brother has perfected what he calls the fly by compliment, because in high school he had problems with people bullying him for being creepy. (Personally I think he's just a tall, scary smart, intense, introverted type and that was intimidating to some people.) What he does is he comes up with something nice to say that is objectively innocuous, i.e. that's a great shirt, your hair looks great today, etc. And he'll shoot it off hand as he's walking past someone, and he walks off before they have a chance to respond. His nonchalance protects him from the creep accusations and makes him much more approachable by that person. Anywho if anyone is reading this and it resonates with you, just know that it's battlefield tested and works.

@limoncr5205

2 жыл бұрын

Yep but that's classic. Not too much complimenting, just bite, leave and ignore. It's good for them. Unfortunately men cannot be too nice.

@jasonpauldegraaf

2 жыл бұрын

If I'm in a convo with a woman, I'll say, "So nothing implied by this, but I like your (whatever)." It kills any creepiness and simply presents a genuine compliment. I've never had it go over poorly.

@limoncr5205

2 жыл бұрын

@@jasonpauldegraaf and what happens next?

@skinnyguy7773

2 жыл бұрын

So men have to do all this just to prevent the possibility that vvomen will (falsely) accuse them of being creeps? This says more about vvomen than it does men.

@juliekring7574

2 жыл бұрын

@@skinnyguy7773 he does it to men too. It's just a way to give a compliment such that people don't feel threatened or misinterpret his actions. I could make the same comment about men. It says a lot about men that they can't receive a compliment from a man without thinking he was gay/hitting on them.

I don’t think the staring is as bad as when you go on the hip abductors and after you do your first set every machine near you is now occupied 😂😂😂

@peterharrell7305

2 жыл бұрын

You know you can use that without sticking your ass in the air, right? If you just use the machine the way it's designed, the problem disappears.

@juliekring7574

2 жыл бұрын

@@peterharrell7305 my guy the hip abductor machine is a sitting machine where your legs are spread open by the nature of the exercise. You didn't even Google it before you assumed she was a hoe.

@juliekring7574

2 жыл бұрын

Just threw up in my mouth a bit probably going to cry about this later lol

@filthyminges

2 жыл бұрын

Yep you love all the attention aye? Can't wait till the hall hits you hard and then you are a ghost hahaha enjoy for now !!!

@peterharrell7305

2 жыл бұрын

@@torachan23 notice how she's 1pbtid. I prolly struck a nerve, lol.

Don’t know if you’ve read the culture series by Iain M Banks? Society seems to be trying to reach the lawless world of no restrictions within the reality we live in. There is no going back, never has been, so we bend with the wind and bow down to the minority idealists. Comments regarding parental mismanagement are disregarded and we continue to practice bandaid treatment on the mentally disturbed. Cheers mate, love your chats. 👌

I am not at war with anyone if someone is kind to me I will return the energy and if they are not I just leave folks alone. But I will say both men and women have been hurt which has made it difficult for both parties to trust again. I say all the good genuine people who get it need to find one another and leave the others that continuously engage in foolishness alone. I am all for meeting good people where we can exchange value. But just adding people and their drama into your life for validation drama selfishness or loneliness is something I have personally opted out of.

Firehosing... That's it. Even when you want to get to the bottom of things the sheer amount data and inconsistencies are overwhelming.

What I learned from this conversation: if you're comfortable, you're not growing.

Save you some time..... NO.

I'm probs same sort of age I loved medicine through time stuff but probably having more in the way of modern history of the world and how each country currently stands would be good too

I consider myself shades of black pill (More FA), and would unironically atleast be "interested" by the idea of sexbots. And yet this is despite feeling less invisible to women now, and desiring a relationship/intimacy more that sheer sex. I feel more accepting of humanity and women in general, however what is done cannot be undone on the level of the trajectory of my life. What society has set up for men with my background, has secured our eternal divorce from society, women and reasonable norms for men and everyone. My prime years are gone, and the women who are left and single within my demographic and age bracket are not a choice for me.

@IAmChad7

2 жыл бұрын

I think if I were told from early on, by Society/Women, that a significant percentage of men will live without any mate desirability and would be invisible to women, that we wouldn't have any value to social groups and more broadly, then I wouldn't have ever felt disappointment or anger/sadness and "red/black pilled". But it is society that perpetually conditions us to believe that we are special, we have intrinsic worth, we are all equal, if we all just try our best that it will work out, that we should expect a certain trajectory like relationships or marriage, family and children, career etc. However it never informs us that this doesn't extend towards a significant percentage of average and low tier men, and that women do not innately perceive most men in this general ballpark. And that even the men who do by organic chance end up in relationships, will not only not be perceived by women with the forms of value they want to have to women, but they will not be able to replicate romantic relationships in general, because of a value issue.

I am a 28 year old woman (raised by a single mum) and my godfather-in-law (gay, very left) said my opinion that fathers belong in homes and single parent families are bad for the mothers and kids was that of a "right wing bigot". Can someone please reassure me this isn't the case because I feel upset😭

@tbo2120

2 жыл бұрын

Every single piece of data says this is 💯 correct. They can play their societal games, you relax in the truth and wisdom of those who came before us and you’ll have a great life. Much love ❤️

@prettyboyjeremy

2 жыл бұрын

No. 1 don't use thier Language Its a standard housing situation 1 mom 1 Dad it's worked for centuries Don't fix what ain't broke or you'll "fix" it until it breaks. Don't be upset get mad at them.

@john22098

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like that dude has fully drank the cool aid. You don't have to be right or left wing to understand that a two parent household is statistically way better for a child than a 1 parent household.

@K3r0411

2 жыл бұрын

Grow up. The reality is it that it doesn’t always work out that way, and single parents have to make the best of it. And what in the world is a godfather in law?

@justachannel8600

2 жыл бұрын

Welp. Just ignore that. Now you might argue that single mums are perfectly fine, you know it's perfectly ok to discuss things. But people who just give you a "insert bad label here" aren't having a conversation they are trying to bully you either into submission or silence. And I'm not saying you have to talk about it or kick him out of your life, just that. A lot of people have opinions about things they have not experienced and a lot of people are assholes about it.

Chris, would you mind inviting a woman to speak on the dating trends? Thank you.

Feelings oooo feelings when one has a positive feeling about what's been said it's because subconsciously they agree and consciously they agree with what's been said. When one has a negative feeling about what's been said it's because subconsciously they agree while consciously that don't want to. This is proven put by the saying that goes like "when you point a finger at another there's three fingers point back at you" the three fingers that are pointing back at you are pointing at your subconscious self.

I think the UK is crippled by a suffocating lack of enthusiasm. People's 'aspirations' are boring to a fault. Where is the call to adventure?

RINGWORM: put paint thinner (varsol) on it. That will clear up in days.

@peterharrell7305

2 жыл бұрын

Great way to wreck your kidneys

@seamusmcfitz913

2 жыл бұрын

@@peterharrell7305 you probably don't have a degree - let alone in science. Thanks for coming out though. Education not evil!

@off6848

2 жыл бұрын

Rosemary oil is the better alternative

@seamusmcfitz913

2 жыл бұрын

@@off6848 ah. OK. Good to know.

The world of body building is just weird.

I follow the Sean Connery method of patience. Watch his interview since if I type what he said my comment will be removed.

Ripper convo lads

"Lord Swoldemort"....I'm dead!

God (Yahweh) created man and woman to operate a certain way together. Every deviation from His specific design and instruction leads to any and all problems discussed on this channel. She is to be his helper. She is to submit to him. He is to love her as himself. He is to value her as the most precious thing he owns. She is his property but she is not an object as him and her are combined as one flesh.

@HolyRainbowism

2 жыл бұрын

I think you’ll find it that men and women created god, and not the other way around.

@ffliberty

2 жыл бұрын

@@HolyRainbowism It's okay to acknowledge that Yahweh exists. He will let you be your own god. I think you will find that matter from nothing is a silly opinion.

@K3r0411

2 жыл бұрын

Don’t expect others to live their lives following the rules of YOUR religion. Many people lead very successful lives in every aspect without one. I’m nobody’s “helper”. We support each other, and have done so for decades.

@HolyRainbowism

2 жыл бұрын

@@ffliberty It’s ok to admit that Pinocchio and The wizard of Oz exists too.

@HolyRainbowism

2 жыл бұрын

@@K3r0411 He only uses the word ‘helper’ because in that troubled book of mythology called the Bible, god has created the woman to be a helper to the man. I’m not a feminist by any stretch of imagination, but the Bible, and pretty much all these mythological religious books are manuals of patriarchy, misogyny, segregation, racism, abuse, atrocities of all sorts, etc.

An excellent debate 👍👍👍

intense!

Divorce courts have a lot to do with the battle between men and women.

I was bare confused when they were talking about the problem of male gays.

Money is one of my passions.

They are less aggressive physically because if they were they would be completely stomped by man with 0 chance of recovery - so they have two weapons to retaliate with :womanly charms (which loads on the left lost hang of it completely) and verbally .

I’m stoked to see my guy Chris get Sam Harris on here eventually

Men do not have an obligation to be a gentlemen and polite when women are no longer obligated to be ladies.

Lol sex robots! I unironically was more worried about Flippi the burger cooking robot & Amazon drone delivery being the delivery method for our self imprisonment.

Wait, chris is on the right side. Feels so weird lol

23:13 was that about Lex Friedman?

honestly just do the Islamic way, seperate the genders to eliminate issues and increase comfort for all members. I've always gone to mixed gyms but ones I was able to go to a gender split one n it was great bc you dont realize actually how much being w the other gender takes away from your focus.

@colinb8332

2 жыл бұрын

Pointing to relationships in Islam probably isn’t the best choice. If a guy gets his feelings hurt in the West that really sucks. If a guy gets his feelings hurt in an Islamic ruled country, females can be locked away, maimed and sometimes killed. Not really an ideal solution unless you’re just a hateful incel.

@hibatuadam2777

2 жыл бұрын

💯

@gfuentes8449

2 жыл бұрын

the worst is the princesses who occupy a whole squat rack to do their own personal circuit routine, very little of which has to do with squatting - say anything and you're harassing

@randomness8819

2 жыл бұрын

@@gfuentes8449 Happens w some guys too lol I just think we could all handle business if we remove that drama. Some dudes n chicks are there for the right reasons n its pleasant to see em when they come to lift. Sadly the majority don't know gym etiquette. I think though gym staff should be more diligent in explaining things to new members. Just be safe bro if you're in a mixed gym you know the chics that are there for work. They arent wearing tight clothing n have no makeup. Them right there are the ones your safe with!!

@autohelix

5 ай бұрын

Islam is terrible.

I feel like we should just have separate gyms for men and women. It would make it more comfortable for everyone and encourage more interactions in those spaces.

@autohelix

5 ай бұрын

No. I have been going to the gym for 18 years. Never had an issue ever.

The occulus VR Metaverse was predicted in Judge Dredd, Total Recall, Red Dwarf and yes surrogates....