Really appreciate you enlightening us to E10 Fuel. Thanks for posting and pouring your knowledge all over us.

Well done , Great advice on over winter storing dirt bikes ,drain the carb and tank . When we changed over to unleaded fuel back in the late eighties there were two bikes which could not run on unleaded Honda CB1100R and Yamaha XT500 , not sure what they were meant to use back then instead but probably unleaded super now . As far as I was aware vegetable based oils do not combat moisture on engine components and fully synthetic two stroke oils are much better in my opinion anyway . The tip on using avgas mixed in your fuel has been used successfully by classic racers for a long time , but with unleaded super as opposed to normal unleaded . Using unleaded super increases the octane rating of your fuel .

Great video thanks and also huge thanks to Roland for sharing his knowledge and experience with the viewers 🤩

Nice video Max, very informative to heip peoples pride and joy from blowing up, it's going to be tough for the evo bikes in less you go for race gas or other additives.

I am from Holland and never ever put other fuel in my dirtbikes than Shell V power. It is zero ethanol and 98 octane. I never had issues with my YZ250, YZ450f, CRF450 and KTM SX250 bikes in the sand in severe conditions.

Superb video, thanks for explaining it. If only VP race gas was easier to get here without traveling a long way or paying ridiculous delivery fees.

Most carburetted bikes have a fuel bowl drain screw on the side you just crack open with a screwdriver to drain the fuel in the bowl with the petcock in the off position..the 17mm hex plug at the bottom is there to mainly facilitate quick main jet replacements.

I would say E10 for your engine, Is like ciggarets for your children. One wont kill it, but very soon you will nothest that it wont run as far as the others anymore, and there is a long range of bad side effects like cancer and engine knocking

Simple......get your E10 fuel, add water to it, shake it up and leave it for a few hours, alcohol(ethanol) is attracted to water.....water and gas don't mix......drain water from bottom of container and you are left with straight gas, or gas that has a tiny amount of ethanol.

Used it over a year here in Sweden NO problem. Even been sitting for 2 months with NO issue......

Hot tip- mineral oils do not mix with alcohol/methanol. Bean oil (castor) does. I would still drain the tank and carb dry before any kind of storage after using E-10, or even run a little heavy mixed meth-free fuel through it. Another alternative is doing a full methanol conversion. Its illegal for motorcross, but other forms of racing allow it. It is just as maintenence intensive, but offers up to a 30% increase in power (with proper set-up), at the cost of increased consumption. Kits are available from various aftermarket manufacturers.

@dougiequick1

2 жыл бұрын

hint NEVER try to wash out a steel fuel tank with H20 when switching two stroke oil types! As a very young man I did that ONE time and destroyed the gas tank in a single day....really thought that would be fine....lol NOT!

Great Job.... we have been dealing with it in the USA for a while - I only use AV LL100 or VP T-2 - Pump in a 2 stroke is suicide.

Hi been around engines 2 stroke and 4 i have nothing favourable to say for ethanol fuels. Corrosion and high engine temperatures and seizures not uncommon.

It’s definitely worse on 2strokes than on 4strokes. It’s harder on crank seals and will turn to vapor in the bottom end before it makes it to the top end. It will also pull atmospheric moisture out of the air and it will separate leaving the bottom off your tank where the petcock is with water during storage in your bike. Then when you turn your gas on it fills the carb with water and alcohol.

Here in masshole land were up to 15% it will turn a blk rubber fuel line to dust over a winter.

Very informative video Laser, keep up the great work!

Here in New Zealand we don't have ethanol mix fuel I use BP 98 octane in my bikes they love it and sometimes I put a mix of av gas in them

great information on a subject that is getting confusing , Thanks 👍

Looking at all the comments. People just buy premium fuels. Shell Vpower & esso synergy, they are e5 grade & 99 octane. Always used it don’t be tight people

Neste company is working on 100% renewable gasoline, that would be awesome if they launch that product, I would love to ride a 2 stroke motocross in 20 years with that fuel. Right now its too expensive to produce however.....

I’ve been using power plus 105 octane and maxima 927 in my yz144 for a fair while now, the fuel is e10 and oxygenated 3%, I’ve probably gone through about 80 to 90 litres, I did have to up jet my pilot and main jet significantly but it is an oxygenate fuel so it did need it. I’ve done countless plug checks being parinoid that I’ll melt a piston. I haven’t even changed a ring yet since the fuel change, I did notice that my bike ran colder roughly around 5 degrees because I run a temperature gauge radiator cap. I pulled my top end off last weekend, so that I could get an insert made for my vhm race head . This bike has sat in my shed for upto a month without being Started and It showed no signs of corrosion, I do block the tank breather pipe tho, overall I’m impressed with the fuel and with the right steps it can be safe for your two stroke.

@tdog54

2 жыл бұрын

That’s some good info, thanks.I’ve just purchased some powerplus 99 to use in my CR500. It’s 1% oxygenated and I was hoping not to do any jetting changes. I usually just use 95 octane with maxima 927.

@fullnoyz7670

2 жыл бұрын

@@tdog54 I’d definitely be doing plugs checks if you try it mate, the power difference, from 98 octane pump fuel to the 105 was very significant, the extra bottom power it made for my bike was really noticeable and it pulled harder the whole way up . I did try 102 power plus for a while aswell, the throttle response was abit snappier than the 105 but I like the 105 better, I’d definitely try it but you will have to re jet it. Take small steps and if it doubt plug check .

@tdog54

2 жыл бұрын

@@fullnoyz7670 I looked at the 102NE also. Not oxygenated. I’ll defiantly throw a new plug in before I try the 99 and inspect it. I guess being a 500 Iam not looking for extra power but just consistent fuel and engine protection. I don’t ride it that much at the moment. 👍👍👍

@dougiequick1

2 жыл бұрын

too high octane can result in a lot of unburned fuel meaning carbon build up and eventual lowered performance if plugs foul etc...dontgo outsmarting yourself with unfounded logic

@fullnoyz7670

2 жыл бұрын

@@dougiequick1 once I used the vhm head I found the 105 to be a bit doey and fouling plugs quiet often.because I changed compression I changed back to 102 octane and it runs perfect now, a new piston changed not so long ago and there is hardly any carbon build up on top of the piston or ports and the pipe is ok too, all just trail and error but I’m happy with how the bike performs 👍

I live in germany and there are several types of fuel without ethanol but higher octane level like 102 or 100. Is that bad? Or just run the good old E5 fuel?

700cc two strokeeeee, i need it brooo... i have been watitng so longgg

@999lazer

2 жыл бұрын

Haha , we mention the 700 dyno test at the end of this video(which we did last week). It was frickin insane. We're now just having a new rad manufactured to improve cooling as it was getting a little hot and then we are on the track. Sorry to keep you waiting. Good things come to those that wait...lol

@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443

2 жыл бұрын

Im predicting around 85hp..

@stevenbeldman4598

2 жыл бұрын

@@999lazer men i love you dude! keep it up! you gonna ride it yourself over the track?

ethanol won't mix with most 2-stroke oil's. you need a caster base oil. That's one reason your seizing pistons.

Both CR's were running hot today - at Bwl track, probably know why now! Anyone know if you have to flush the cranckases with modern Castor oil , like you had to with Castrol R, Castor oil and additive sound the best plan!??- Glad you did this one Max.

@nickmys4137

2 жыл бұрын

I have run Castrol A747 for years (it's the modern Castrol R). I have never flushed the cases like that when swapping to use it, just drained all the old fuel out of the tank/carb and then run my fresh batch of Castrol A747 mix. By the way, the Esso Supreme 99+ you can buy at the pump has zero ethanol in it and I will be using that from now on.

@volksquadman

2 жыл бұрын

@@nickmys4137 much appreciated mate👍goes to show how many years ago I did it last. Also the fuel tip. The lad I ride with has been getting the fuel- it's e10. Never from today. Thanks for taking the time to post you reply- I can now concentrate on hanging on to the bars instead of fuel issues! Lol

Esso supreme + 99 is ethanol free, although the pump will state E5 it doesn't actually contain ethanol.

Tesco Momentum 99 mixed with Putoline MX9 should be OK? Honda CR 125 32:1 ratio as manual says

Don't use it. I used to use it at high octane and if you let your bike sit it gums up, even if it sits for like a month, the jets in the carb so I was always cleaning carbs. I switched to 92 Clear and 110 sometimes for the larger bikes and I've let them sit for 3 years and they fire right up.

Hi m8, used something in my yz 250 2stroke, must have been e10 before it was even out on 1st sept, still having running probs now, pilot jet keeps getting crap in it , but so small cant see what it is , even tried a pin to get it out to see what it is, but cant, once I blow out jet shes good, but leave it a while, blocked again , is this anything to do with e10🤷‍♂️, just dont understand why it's the pilot jet every time, can you gun this past roland bud.👍🏻, I've flushed fuel can, fuel tank, card with brake cleaner, still getting probs🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯😪

We have this E10 Petrol in Germany for a couple of Years now- i had countless carburetors cleaned of this Shi... Fuel. Its something people should really avoid, it kills your bike by clogging up the jets in a short time! Please use only Premium Fuel (Aral Ultimate, Shell V-Power, Esso Synergy, ...)

@emile_windels1654

2 жыл бұрын

I use fuel from Total 98

Max? How much oil is recommended down the plug hole, most guys running the nationals have a race and a spare, twice now I’ve had the race bike in the spare room of the house, mrs loves that.. but still 3 months later twice I’ve had mains seized solid… So how much is enough down the plug hole, I’d rather go more than not enough.. is it a tea spoon? Or 50ml

@999lazer

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Ash, Roland says about a cap full from the oil bottle

The US has been running e10 for years. We have non ethanol pumps for small engines. And e85 is run in high performance turbo engines. Never heard of any automotive piston or engine problems in the US running e10.

@dougiequick1

2 жыл бұрын

correction SOME areas of the US have local non ethanol pumps but many areas like in parts of southern california? We are just F#(ked other than to pay 4 prices and buy it small volume pumped from a barrel not any gas pump out on any island at typical stations....

Ethanol burns cooler than gasoline. How does it feel to be spreading misinformation? Pistons seize because ethanol causes a lean burn. Jet it up and you're fine. Literally the only thing you got correct was dont let ethanol sit

@jameslloyd8728

2 жыл бұрын

Yep. I work in the industry. Almost total bollocks

Only use vpower even in my lawn mower

Run at least high test in any high performance motor.

@dougiequick1

2 жыл бұрын

"high performance" is not the right term...it is the COMPRESSION that determines what octane....high performance is a realtive subjective term....a motorcycle could produce 100hp and achieve some very "high" perfromance numbers and yet still only need and in fact best run on 87 octane gasoline. I have had to talk certain people OUT of running premium fuel in their lower compression engines....they ASSUME they are doing good and pampering their beloved vehicle when in fact all they are doing is adding extra carbon to the combustion chanbers and wasting a lot of money....never assume such! READ your owners manual and trust it for octane requirement...not some cars like late model Mazdas with Sky Active can actually run from low to high octane and the system will adjust things to work safely....you will benefit with higher horspower with the high octane while saving money without damage running regular gas....fun days canyon runs or track days? PREMIUM....Then same vehicle for commuting or a road trip? Use regular! Best of both worlds for my little mx5 roadster!

Great info, but this all seems aimed at 2 strokes. Is this info also valid for thumpers? Edit - silly question as this is a 2 stroke channel I know; but the info would be handy

@mylsmkj2735

2 жыл бұрын

I would say besides the storage issues, there is absolutely zero issue with E10. Gas stations in the USA have had it as the main fuel source for a number of years. Stock motorcycles (Off road race bikes and motocross) bikes run fine on it using premium unleaded. I usually buy non-ethanol but the vast majority of folks use gas station gas. It's kind of ridiculous what these guys with no experience with it are saying IMO. @999lazer If you're running a high compression with aggressive timing use freaking race gas anyway. You have to go through your gas every couple months. Ethanol is very bad to store in a bike... Very bad. Even using stabilizer can work but I absolutely don't.

@mylsmkj2735

2 жыл бұрын

For reference, before I had probably 700 hours on Beta and KTM 2 strokes with high compression heads using only E10. bottom ends still no play at 350 hours on both... Good info at the end regarding storage.... it's the only good info IMO

people have been using e10 in south east asia on performance 2 strokes for more than a decade and there are no problems your "expert" claims, not to mention that there is actually no road racing of 2 stroke in the USA now.

You mentioned some petrol stations have 0% ethanol labelled as e5. Do you know which companies in particular as that could be useful to know if one company isn't adding ethanol at all to their fuel?

@harland292

2 жыл бұрын

Esso supreme synergy is 0%

@TheJelf10

2 жыл бұрын

@@harland292 thanks. Just looked on their website it does say synergy is 0% ethanol except sites that are supplied from North Wales, North England, Scotland and Cornwall. So it depends on where you live. Will have to look further into it.

@deanharris9331

2 жыл бұрын

I've been using Tesco momentum at 99 RON in my road bike and runs like a dream.

Been running E10 and R/O syn2 and syn4 in our 125 and 450 MX bikes for years and years here in Aus, maybe it's different here 🤷

Just run VP100. Problem solved 😉

In the United States E10 has been the standard for a decade

If I use E10, Will use fuel stabilizer in fresh e10. But if using non ethanol fuel then you don’t need fuel stabilizer.

Here in Brazil our gasoline is at least 27% ethanol.

Max How canI please get rolands number for a 2022 125 YZ for help for my young boy to buy all the parts when developed like with Bradshaw Please I looked Hard Core Racing Im in Australia lot of pressure at moment my heads not up to finding obviously I've rang number and tried Kind Regards Craig

I think it's a conspiracy to get all old bikes and old cars off the road and off the track . I have many motorcycles in my dirt bikes I always run race gas (VP PRO6) in my KX450F and VP MRXO2 in my KX125 two stroke but that stuff cost $205. For a 5 gallon tub . and I have no problem with my bikes BUT in my street bikes my Goldwing 4 carbs my Silverwing 2 carbs my CBR600F3 4 carbs all of them ran fine when I parked them but after sitting for months all the carbs are clogged and have that green film all through them from putting that E10 fuel in them😵😵😵😵😵😭 now Ill have to rebuild 12 carbs before I can ride them 😣If I took them to a shop they want $120 per carb. To clean and rebuild! An average person that doesn't turn a wrench will either give up on their bike or get raked over the coals to have them rebuilt. The it will happen again if they let their bikes sit for a few months without draining the carbs and tank since that E10 crap has a very short shelf life. Its a conspiracy to ruin our old bikes lawn mowers anything with a small engine or a carb .

ACU (uk) banned leaded fuel for racing about 1994 so if you want to stay legal then avgas is a no no.

Would I be okay running e10 in my 2016 kx250f ? 4 stroke

Would removing the ethanol improve matters ?

Wen do we get to see the 700cc monster going and ripping+hp

Can't you run a better ratio of 25:1 2 stroke oil to fuel

good thing we can make our own non ethanol fuel

can i use e10 in my YZ85 and DT125? and what is that fuel stabiliser he shows?

@l888enduro2

2 жыл бұрын

Buy premium fuel it’s e5

Okay assuming the effort and expense went into proper engineering lets think about this....with fuel injection we ALREADY need a full time fuel pump so why not use gasoline as coolant? Engineer the fuel pump to handle both functions and use materials on fuel tank resevoirs that allow them to work as radiators...now I know what the first problem people are going to point to which is running low on fuel could mean motor will overheat ....which any years ago would be a concern but these days with onboard computer adusting fuel delivery ignition and maximum rpm per temperature points etc? When fuel gets dangerously low and or temps begin to threaten longevity? Everything gets dialed back accordingly...what the bike at that point lacks in power it is making up for perhaps in RANGE....It just seems to me that early on in a ride with full complement of fuel that motor is going to have a fantasic abilty to stay cool....no?....also for safety concerns the fuel tank could be monitored for ruptures and actually cut the ignition if that is sensed

yeah i never trust e10 for my quads or dirt bikes... i run e85 in my car mercedes clk200 kompressor gtom 2000. actually all my car run e85 cause cheap 0.65€/L bmw e36 318i 1995, alfa 156 2.0ts 2001 ran 100% e85 fine no tune needed started first key turn, my old mercedes w203 c200 from 2000 didnt like it that much start rought and ran like a patato but also had over 300k km and was a shit box. but my clk200 kompressor runs fine starts rough, but it runs fine after. wierd thing is mercedes clk230 1998 and 1999 start and run fine on e85. but 2000 and 2001 models have rought start... for me any car befor 2000 with 1 oxygen sensor runs great on e85 but when ever there are 2 it fuckes up the values still runs but starts are horrible, otherwise e10 95 doesnt do shit for car if you use e10 95 or e5 95/98 i mean most cars will run on 50% e85 and 50% sp95 without a problem but i dont trust e10 or e85 in carburator stuff... a quad will probaly run on e10 maybe e85 with if you jet if right but nah i stick to 95... even doh most are e5 and on rare occasions you can smell the difference between stations with sp95 some smell like good old petrol others you smell the ethanol... just anoying you can fine real 95 or 98, its all called e5...

will my 2014 ktm exc 125cc be ok to use E10??

@ryanflood635

2 жыл бұрын

Yeh but check the manual it tells you for sure in there.. but I believe all ktm bikes after 2000 will run on E10 but again check the manual and if you haven’t got one find it online.

@YoungMelz

2 жыл бұрын

@@ryanflood635 ok nice one thank you!

@l888enduro2

2 жыл бұрын

Buy premium fuel.

@ryanflood635

2 жыл бұрын

@@YoungMelz yeh. Like this guy just said. After more research it’s better to just avoid this shit and buy the premium fuel.

I was told no more E5 in 5 years it will all be E10🤤

Esso Supreme+ 99 has zero ethanol in it.

No. Corn fuel is shit and doesn't last. It leaves a film on parts even if you drain it every time you shut the motor down. Also the octane is never consistent making tuning a frigging nightmare because you have to test the fuel and tune to every batch you get from the station. Stoic is 14.08:1 not 14.7:1. I literally see absolutely zero reason to ever shorten your life and turn your hair grey just to be able to run e10.

I was having problem with my bike now running good gas is not very good ware I live I find 90 e free and my bike runs so much better

Bad new for Ktm / Gas / Husky TPI then ….

@wasekoliver9973

8 ай бұрын

No

ITS SHITE, don’t me tight buy premium fuel, still E5, we used E10 for the first time in a trench whacker at work. It ran like shit for first 10 minutes & 100% was less power

So much of what this guy is saying is not true. If not delete, you should heavily edit this video. It is mostly his opinion being presented as fact

jph00 #vum.fyi

Why don’t you learn how to ride a dirt bike

Will I be able to use it in a 2008 crf250r

@dylanphelps1387

2 жыл бұрын

you can still buy the fuel that you get now their not going to stop selling it they are just offering e10 as well as e5 you will have to look at the pump or buy premium petrol