i’d say that final roll could be the Annihilator roll given the g’s 💀

@EliteCoasters

Жыл бұрын

Less negative g's than Zadra's twisted hill but still insane. Love that name suggestion

@DrevikkDrevik

Жыл бұрын

This will be the comment with the most replies, won't it. Anyways annihilator roll is an awesome name.

@heyogie3840

Жыл бұрын

The maverick cause that last inversion is gonna launch a test dummy out of its seat. *cough cough*.

@TheUnholyToast1

Жыл бұрын

Maybe something like the tornado roll could work as well

@yeetus6490

Жыл бұрын

@@EliteCoasters what are the negative g’s on that hill. The most I have ever heard of is the drop off the top hat on ride to happiness which has around -2.1

As others have recommended, I like the term "ejector roll" for the final element. However, since it requires a left or right turn in the track to function, simply clarify with the direction. In this case, it would be a "left ejector roll" since it finishes to the left.

@arandomcasualgamer3923

Жыл бұрын

Honestly this makes no sense. That's like saying a "Left Double Inverting Stall" or a "Right Outerbank Hill"

@munktayl0rd

Жыл бұрын

@@arandomcasualgamer3923 then suggest something better rather than being predictably passive-aggressive? Feel free to argue further. People seem to agree, including the channel itself.

@dankus9557

Жыл бұрын

I agree with your naming, its honestly perfect of a name considering the forces. However, the dictating of the direction isnt really necessary (depending if you take the roll forward or backward, the backward one could be called reverse ejector roll, similar to the name of a reverse sidewinder)

@dankus9557

Жыл бұрын

The element itself looks like something RMC would do on a hybrid eventually

@RollerCoasters_6457

Жыл бұрын

Oh... I was going to say Hell roll.

ofc you can make the perfect hybrid 💀 needa get you at busch gardens for that "2024 220ft hybrid)

@maincoasters

Жыл бұрын

i need to improve tbh , check my account out , if me tips

While it's a nice coaster, your notion of it being a "perfect" coaster bothers me a bit. Yes, the coaster has solid pacing and good elements, but making a coaster like this is beyond easy when you have no other constraints. Basically none of the elements reuse other structures, the layout is very spread out, none of the elements are unique/stand out to this coaster, etc. It wouldn’t take too much to make a much less costly and more succinct coaster with this level pacing and more stand out elements/element sequences. In other words, there are so many other things that go into making a coaster great than just pacing and element quality. And like with all other art forms, “perfect” art doesn’t really exist (although I admit it makes a good video title, though I’m getting the feeling that you believe it to be more than that). Also, while it’s definitely helpful at first to mimic other manufacturers' styles and elements, I can tell that your abilities and understanding of element details are well beyond that level. I just feel like you could do more than forcing together a few irl elements without much change to them to make them make sense in the spaces they occupy. I’m sorry for being so critical (overly critical probably) because it really is a good coaster, definitely better than a lot of NL2 creations out there. I just see your potential in making coasters and want to help you get unstuck from where you are currently.

@duckysnake

Жыл бұрын

Come on man, you should be paying attention to your lecture

@jacksongrace

Жыл бұрын

@@duckysnake lol it was basically all review because I had done the homework early. Btw, I take back pretty much everything I said. I misunderstood what Derek was going for with the video and he's amazing at what he does :)

@bugmonster1

Жыл бұрын

YESSSS THE TIKTOK COMMENT

@victoriagmiller

Жыл бұрын

LMFAO

@jacksongrace

Жыл бұрын

@@woxoh aayyy congrats XD

Lightning Rods wave turn is one of the best elements I've ever experienced.

@mylesmcarthur642

Жыл бұрын

I found Lightning Rods wave turn to be inferior Outlaw Run and Twisted Cyclone's wave turns and not the highlight of Lightning Rod.

@zenthous9568

Жыл бұрын

@@mylesmcarthur642well the quad down is Obvs the best element

RMC is the king when it comes to making elements that make you say “WTF WAS THAT!”

@EliteCoasters

Жыл бұрын

facts

Re-reading my earlier comment, I now realize I was definitely being overly harsh/negative. I have always really enjoyed the coasters you've created whenever I've seen them, especially this one. I love the sequences and element shaping and I can really see your own unique style of layout creation. I was just a little bothered by your "perfect" notion and a couple of the other things I mentioned, although not nearly as much as I had conveyed. And I am very sorry about that. I think I have just had a bit of a pet peeve with people having slightly inflated egos (which I hope you have recognized in yourself) especially because I have been dealing with one for a while myself. Recently have been trying to get over it, thought I probably still have a bit of one now. Other than this though, I can tell you're a really nice guy and just as much of a coaster layout nerd as me. So, If you'd ever like I'd love to colab on something, bounce ideas off each other, or just nerd out about layouts, I'd love to chat with you on discord :)

@EliteCoasters

Жыл бұрын

I understand the criticism about the "perfect" coaster title, it's really just because designing the "best" coaster doesn't sound as good in a video title. Every ride has its flaws, and it's impossible to design a perfect roller coaster. For example, the shaping heading into the zero-g stall feels a little funky, the wave turn isn't as snappy as it could be, the overbank in the second half is too snappy, and the final element is pretty forced and flows kinda weird. This whole series is just an excuse for the coaster nerd in me to do another in-depth layout analysis because these videos are just fun to make.

@jacksongrace

Жыл бұрын

@@EliteCoasters Ah that makes much more sense. Sorry for the comments and stuff, you're doing an amazing job! :)

@zachman15

Жыл бұрын

This is a finely-written reply, Jackson. Did you proof-read this in a college lecture?

@mynameiskrysta

Жыл бұрын

I came here looking for the comment i saw u write in a tiktok someone made who was behind u when u were writing it and got the whole thing down And u were right btw lmao

@jacksongrace

Жыл бұрын

@@mynameiskrysta lol yup

you should call the inversion at the end an “underbaked roll”

@Ochocinco_Edits

Жыл бұрын

Or an “underbanked turn”

@mylesmcarthur642

Жыл бұрын

@@Ochocinco_Edits underbanked turns already exist, they are extremely common on classic wooden coasters such as Great American Scream Machine.

@Ochocinco_Edits

Жыл бұрын

@@mylesmcarthur642 thanks for the comment, really appreciate it

@jackbarnhart7394

Жыл бұрын

I love this!!!

Wow, what a creation... I thought a good name for the last inversion would be the ejector roll or for short the eggroll

@ts4gv

Жыл бұрын

haha eggroll is great

What still manages to amaze me is the shaping of the elements that's just completely on point. You make it feel just like an actual RMC. Huge kudos! And regarding the name for that final roll, I'd say it's the exact same as Ride to Happiness' first inversion out of the station, which I call a Curved Heartline Roll

8:23 that airtime hill looking straight at the lift structure is so cool looking

This coaster is insane! It is just beautiful the way the sun shines off the white supports and the layout is one of the best that I have seen

The roll should be named the Slaughter roll because it will slaughter everyone riding this.

I love the series and the coaster looks great, keep up the good work (:

You've probably just made the best layout ever , I wish I could ride this omgggg !!!! Keep up the good work :D

This man is the b&m of rmc ideas, using the same ol’ elements instead of being unique.

@ltobijrl8102

Жыл бұрын

He’s recreating a ride model, so he has to use previously used elements as making new elements wouldn’t be realistic and it’s not like he’s used cookies cutter elements

@EliteCoasters

Жыл бұрын

I understand the criticism and you both make good points. I am trying to stay true to the ride model which is why I include so many elements from real RMC coasters. That being said, I can see how sometimes it can feel like I'm just picking and choosing a bunch of real life elements. I appreciate the feedback and I'll be more creative with future projects! :)

@RealWildWalter

Жыл бұрын

@@EliteCoasters honestly this was a joke comment. I really like your work.

@coastersaga

Жыл бұрын

@@ltobijrl8102 Heartline winder: Am I a joke to you?

Great job, man! Keep these incredible creations going!

Ok, since my other comment was talking about your opening statement, here's a comment on the ride itself: This is SICK. My biggest belief with roller coaster design philosophy is the layout and pacing have to be priority #1. If the pacing and layout suck, nothing else matters. And I'm a firm believer in variety as well: having inversion after inversion only really works for certain coasters. Here, you beautiful dance the layout from inversion, to turn, to airtime hill, back to an inversion, etc. I think the sequencing is perfect on this. This really would be a #1 contender.

YES! I've been waiting for this

I'd like to call the barrel roll turn the "Smile Roll", since it's incredibly similar to the second heartline on Smiler where the roll leads straight into the banked turn before the brakes.

@beastfisher7996

Жыл бұрын

But the one on smiler is before the turn where as this one is in the turn

Phenomenal ride!! I think the name of the last element depends on the name/theme of the ride…universal was genius with naming the mosasaurus roll based on the theme of the ride

Just stunningly beautiful!!!! 😍😍😍

I love this series!

Phenomenal! I wish this was a real ride. I could feel the airtime and whip through the screen. I’ve been on so many RMC’s that is partly why I feel it

this is an amazing coaster. if i owned an amusement park i would commision rmc to create this. its truely wonderfull.

Sir, I believe you have made THE BEST layout I’ve ever seen!

This is the sickest RMC ever !!

I believe that you can! This ride is a beast. 😁

I know you let me see this ride before you posted it here. I absolutely love this coaster so much. It’s so hard to choose what exactly is my favorite part. I think the end with all of the airtime is my favorite. You don’t get a second to breathe to take what happened. Absolutely brilliant coaster.

@EliteCoasters

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

That final element: the macoronni rope a dope.

I could watch more of these 👍

Yeah, more of this video series please. Big fan of your narrated videos, especially when you are walking through your design considerations. As great as the RMC Cheetah, New Texas Giant, Beast, & Boss videos have been it is cool to see you start with a blank canvas like you have done so far. I'd love to see this video series cover B&M Gigas/Inverts maybe even Dive, Gerstlauer Infinity w/ 8+ inversions, New model Vekoma, Intamin Mega(lite?)/Hyper/Giga, compact GCI and/or Gravity Group, out-and-back GCI and/or Gravity Group, etc. Maybe finish it off with a completely custom RMC TREX or S&S 4D Giga or something crazy. Also, can you post the stats on these coasters? 80 seconds of Prime Ride Time? This thing must be almost 6k feet long right?

I want to ride it! Amazing job!

thats an awsome coaster! i would just love some bigger hills like on steel vengance. i think those are really fun.

This is so good

Great layout

For that last inversion I would suggest twistman dive or Twirler Bank.

The airtime on this in the back especially would be phenomenal

you really deserve more subs keep grinding

Awesome coaster !! One thing that I would add would be some sort of pre-lift section, like an outerbank in the style of untamed

Congrats on 5K!

@EliteCoasters

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

this is so good

Considering the color pallet of the ride the last inversion of the ride could be something like "riptide roll" with the coaster as a whole being "themed" to surfing.

It should be called an "Outer banked Twist or Roll" Also, KUDOS on the Design! I'd love to be a test dummy!

In the next installment of these vids can you please do a B&M Hyper Invert Or A wing because those are B&M’s best models? I don’t know about the hyper because you were doing a Mack hyper.

I can almost feel the tummy drop when viewing the first drop in the back row

Thus ride feels like it's in the Naples area for some reason, so I think the Mediterranean capsizing turn is a good name.

We need a full POV of this!!

I’m hyped

@RapidZCoasters

Жыл бұрын

I can already see a death roll and Zero g stall

@williamhoward9121

Жыл бұрын

@@RapidZCoasters I see an outerbank as well

I am not sure about the actual forces on RMCs, but I am curious if it is usual for a ride to have this many moments of strong lateral Gs. Absolutely fluid layout though!

Last element looks like the zero g winder on Taiga, just with not much of an elevation change, so I would go with barrel roll winder.

Elbow roll, Macaroni roll, or something of the sorts and an “-ing” adjective can be added a la “flying” snake dive, such as “ejecting macaroni roll” for some extra thoosie flair!

@EliteCoasters

Жыл бұрын

Macaroni roll 😂😂 I love it!

I was thinking the boomerang roll because it kind of looks like a boomerang from the top and it sound pretty cool

Following the naming of the “Death Roll,” I’d call the last element the “incineroll” as a play-on-words od incinerator and roll. That way, it already presents itself as a more insane version of the death roll. Plus it sounds kinda similar to the mosasaurus roll. That could just be me though.

Insane how suddenly NL2 can appear in a TikTok with millions of views. Nice work :)

Blue Hawk would be another cool one .

Wayyyy better than the intamin blitz. It was amazing but you outdid yourself with this

Maybe you could make the next couple episodes about making a perfect B&M Hyper/Giga and a perfect Intamin Mega/Hyper/Giga, and compare the two? Considering some ride models/classifications can differ in experiences to which manufacturers are building them. You could also do a perfect Mack Launch coaster and compare it to the Intamin Blitz one you made in episode 1

Second comment, but for a video idea (and since I suck at NL2) you should do the ultimate B&M coaster, specifically and airtime focused giga combining and slightly modifying the best elements of existing hypers and gigas. Ex: 325’ drop at 90 degrees, providing -.5g in the back (only .1 stronger the Orion), Orions wave turn, but banking out like RMCs instead of in giving between -.3 and -.5, the longest airtime moment in the world at 8sec (dragster and Ka each so 7.5 sec under .5) then a large ejector hill just a tad more than Diamondback, which is -.7, almost to -1, Fury’s turnaround, alternating off axis speed hills at -.75, Orion’s Belt, then back to back twisty hills like on Orion (hit around -.6 IRL) at -.7. Add some quicker snaps for some of the banking transitions.

I made an element similar to the last one, and called it a “Lazy Roll”, except mine turns 180 degrees and is meant to be taken extremely slowly

@orionscythe

11 ай бұрын

Isn't that like ride to happiness

Final roll should be called the Exodus roll - it's the last roll of the ride BUT ALSO the new "Project Exodus" planned coaster at Thorpe Park has something similar just at a higher elevation.

I ❤ Wicked Cyclone. Its my home park’s coaster and not the best, but a damn good one for its size.

@EliteCoasters

9 ай бұрын

Wicked Cyclone was way better than I expected before I rode it! One of my all time favorites :)

@NALTOHQ

9 ай бұрын

@@EliteCoasters i want more smaller footprint RMC hybrids. They could definitely perfect some of the pacing issues that Wicked Cyclone has, Im sure of it. Gotta ride it again someday

The twisted tsunami roll

actually the best coaster

the outer banked roll

The neck-breaker roll.

Also a name for the element could be a twisted hurricane roll

Barrel winder for the turned barrel roll the whole ride is Airtime Dragon

i think the last element should be called a "port roll" named after the way you exit the element and also because "left roll" sounded boring. but all in all AWESOME COASTER!

This is dangerously close to the perfect hybrid coaster. I would have called that final element a "tidal roll".

Name suggestion for the barrel roll: the outer banked barrel roll

Great job making this! If this was a real coaster I would defiantly ride it. Btw, how tall is it?

@EliteCoasters

Жыл бұрын

215 feet I think

Can u possibly do a video on designs an rmc Shivering Timbers or Wolverine wildcat

My god an rmc I would have preferred a Mack hyper but did also lookin sick

you should do building the prefect coaster for a b&m giga, a mack extreme spinner, an intamin mega coaster, a B&M invert, an s&s 4D hyper coaster, a GCI wooden coaster, and more

@MrGoat-cd8lt

Жыл бұрын

@idkwhattoputhere what are you talking about?

@MrGoat-cd8lt

Жыл бұрын

@idkwhattoputhere 😏

Imo the double inverting stall feels a tiny bit forced. It is an imposing element that fits great at the start of a ride but if you put it after the midvourse it doesn't feel as important to the layout. The layout is still stellar and very creative though.

1: that final element should be called “the confused roll” 2: the next episode should be a b&m giga

@kilorl.

Жыл бұрын

Both good ideas, I like the "ejector roll" better tho.

@xri0tt

Жыл бұрын

@@kilorl. understandable

wraparound corkroll as the name for the last element (in classic RMC Fassion)

now imagine if rmc actually made this hypothetical coaster you're talking about

To me, that last inversion is almost what I would call the Negative-G Roll. But I only call it that if it has negative g's throughout the entire roll. I have no idea what to call it. maybe the Infinity Roll. That's a heck of a coaster.

@beastfisher7996

Жыл бұрын

Negative g roll would probably be a really steep zero g roll

I gonna call the inversion at the end a strata roll or a side roll or a outerspin roll or maybe even a tsunami roll🎢🎢🎢

You know how Lightning Rod ends with the break run down that steep slope? What if Lightning Rod kept on going instead of ending with a break run? I can imagine it really doing some awseome low-to-the-ground turns like the end of El Torro, taking advantage of all that speed it currently throws away currently. Would you ever consider creating this virtually?

Hi ! Can you maybe send somewhere the fvd++ file that you used ? I'm trying to reproduce an RMC but i don't get how to have the good RMC pacing, (as u can maybe see in my last video). thank you =) Oh and btw, very nice work !

So, when are we building it and at what park?

So I need some help with NoLimits2. Anytime I make a Midcourse Brakerun and have the brake segment set to block mode it forces the train to come to a complete stop no matter what, even if the next block is unoccupied. I haven’t found any videos on how to make this not happen, do you know how to fix this?

@EliteCoasters

Жыл бұрын

If you uncheck the "complete stop button" that would maybe solve it of you have that checked. Otherwise, you might not have enough block zones on the ride to compensate for the # of trains.

Ejector would be a good name

Can you also make a gurslower infinity coaster or euro fighter please?

Name for final element: the Croissant Roll 😛😛😛

I think that inversion should be the "Rollunder"

Oh I'm gonna be asleep as it is 11 o clock where I am when it premiers 😭

The perfect name for the final element: the Outerbanked Half Horseshoe Roll

@jappie.

Жыл бұрын

well it is pretty rmc like

great layout but i think it could use some more unique elemets epescially the turn around ig

What about it being duel and launched and a inversion at the top

Can you do a Mach Extreme Spinner for the next one?

What is the music you used in, explaining what makes a perfect coaster?

@EliteCoasters

Жыл бұрын

Intentions by Anno Domini Beats

You should make the next episode a 15 inversion coaster or a Vekoma hyper

Idea: build a coaster in the style of another (ex. Build a RMC hybrid like an intamin blitz) and vise versa.

@masterwatermelonthemeparks

Жыл бұрын

i like the idea can i use it for my channel maybe?

@humfree6436

Жыл бұрын

absolutely

@coastersaga

Жыл бұрын

Well, Intamin has been using RMC-style elements lately

@masterwatermelonthemeparks

Жыл бұрын

@@humfree6436 :)) Lets gooooooooooooooooooooo

@humfree6436

Жыл бұрын

@@coastersaga true, but elements like intense switchbacks aren’t used often on hybrids, imagine a hybrid with the layout of maverick

Let see an 8 point roll, like stunt pilots do.Or a 90 deg banked double helix.

Much better than mine

maybe the ''outer banked banked roll'' for the last element?