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your better off in a 12/14/16/18/20/24 foot enclosed box trailer. no gas, no insurance, no oil changes, ramp or cargo doors, no DOT inspections, etc. AND you can still fit a office in them. plus great resale value.

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

THanks. I don't want to deal with a trailer however

@pnuttheclownh2254

4 ай бұрын

@@ohiowoodburner but you handle two fine dump trailers so well. especially unloading methods you taught us viewers.

@TheTorkerman

3 ай бұрын

I think if your bundle business really took of, this could be a good vehicle to deliver pallet loads of bundles. Load 4 pallets of bundles with the tractor? Or perhaps look for a smaller dump truck like Brad from Firewood at the furnace picked up.

How about an enclosed trailer with door that swing to the sides can load pallets of bundles with your tractor and pull it with your trucks. Tandems axles like your dump trailer

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

Trailers are too much of a pain for me.

I saw one of the comment that talked about a "enclosed trailer". That would have been my suggestion.

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

THanks. Don't want to deal with a trailer

@user-tb7oe2wg5r

4 ай бұрын

@@ohiowoodburner I understand about not wanting to deal with a trailer, but the best I can remember you gave both the "pros and cons" of the truck. Also you gave the "cons" of owning the truck, but I don't remember you talking about the "pros" (the purpose of owning a box truck) in your video. But wait, i do remember you talking about using the box as a mobile office. I still have several questions in the way I think before I can give you a good solid answer. I like the way you "think the process through".

As mentioned as another option would be the enclosed trailer and get you an electric pallet Jack. With a fold down rear door/ramp the electric pallet Jack could easily load and unload whole pallets as well as moving them around at your delivery.

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

Thanks buddy. I don't want to deal with a trailer however

Check out Penske before you buy. I was a mechanic for them and before they sell off their used trucks, they bring them in and spare no money going through them. Brakes, tires. seats, bumpers... whatever they need, they get. Don't quote me but I believe they will give you a warranty as well. I think I'd invest in an enclosed trailer before I got into a truck like that as far as money spent. More bang for the buck and far less maintenance imo. No medical card required. Less money for registration, no added insurance costs... ( at least in my state). Good luck whatever you decide. You can still put your logo on that too! Lol. I enjoy your videos.

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

thanks for the nice comment JBG. where are you from?

@johnnybegood9285

4 ай бұрын

@@ohiowoodburner Boston

Joe... I would not consider taking a pallet full of firewood on a pallet jack down a ramp... you only need it to get away from you one time to get yourself hurt or damage something pretty bad. Even working from the top of the ramp, your instinct will be to try to do everything possible to keep it either on the ramp or from running away from you. The resultant back injury ain't worth it. (ask me how I know) Unless your customers have a forklift, the best you can hope for is to just move the pallet to the back and hand unload it. In reality, you can do the same thing with your pickup by removing the tailgate and delivering the pallet that way. I think you would be further ahead to buy another pickup (redundancy in delivery vehicles) and a container to store your pre-palletized firewood (next day deliveries of full pallets). Someday you will need a big truck with a liftgate... (when you do, you will probably need a fulltime driver/ delivery person for it because you will be that busy) I just don't think you are there yet.

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

I wouldn't remove the pallet. Only move it to the back of the box so I could unload it by hand

@robertwazniak9495

4 ай бұрын

@@ohiowoodburner in that case, get a second pickup and a tall cap that will cover the full pallet… something tall with a full swinging double door and no tailgate… a double step bumper to make access easier. That avoids the large gas guzzler and the DOT inspections. Probably get all of that for less than one of those box trucks.

Hey Joe, more great content! I'm a little late to the comments so this may never be seen, but for what it's worth: I did my deliveries (on pallets) for the first few years with a crane-equipped open trailer behind a small van, with a pallet truck to move the product around on site. I did all the loading with my articulated farm loader. This worked pretty well most of the time, but there were always places where it was awkward/difficult/dangerous getting the trailer in, particularly when reversing in off the public road. Towards the end of last summer, I bought a (well used!) small flatbed truck with a lift gate (usually called a tail-lift over here in Ireland), and it has transformed my deliveries! I can now easily get into and around the places that were previously problematic, and the whole outfit is so much easier to manoeuvre in traffic and parking places. The lift gate is the game changer. I'd strongly suggest that you make it an essential component of your purchasing decision. No ramp that can be carried on the truck will be in any way safe to use with a loaded pallet truck, in my opinion. Here in Ireland (and the EU generally), there's a category of Small Commercial vehicles (under 3500kg MAM - Maximum Authorised Mass) that can be driven on an ordinary car driver's license. My little truck fits this category. It has to be tested for roadworthiness every year but that goes for almost every vehicle here anyway, so it's no extra burden. Is there any such 'light commercial' category in the Ohio system that you might be able to avail of for your purposes?

I see where your going with this... if your thinking of backing up to a dock, U-Hall is too low.. but if your planning on hand bombing the load this is perfect.. the ramp is a great feature.. also a great place to store bundles as your making them. Great idea Joe.. I'd say go for it!!

Without a lift gate I say no. An enclosed double axle trailer I think would work better for you. With the lower deck that a trailer would give you, it would make loading and unloading safer. All around it would be cheaper, easier for maintenance, easier customizable, multi purpose, and higher re-sale should you decide to switch gears.

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

Thanks buddy

Nice video of the falls, thanks for sharing. Elaine from Canada here, sounds like you have a wish-list dilemma? I’m sure after you’ve given it lots of thought i.e. pros/cons, pace of life, and the next new direction of OWB, you’ll come up with a decision you can live with and afford. In the meantime, let those thoughts and dreams flow! You’re doing well Joe, the Axis, 405, Go Fast, carport and SuperSplit have contributed to your successes and you’re tracking to do better each year. Any decision you make can be evaluated in time, then changed up if needed. Great video, wishing you peace and joy Joe, as you build your business. Cheers.

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

Thanks Elaine. I am still unsure but I need to keep looking into it. I don't like the DOT thing but I like the idea of a box truck. Time will tell!

Find an ex penske truck with a lift gate if you want to go that route. They are generally in better condition. Keep growing and you might have to dot. Spend money to make money.

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

that is on my list of things to do. Curious how much more $$ that will add

@Opinionatedguy1989

4 ай бұрын

@@ohiowoodburner whatever guarantees success and customer satisfaction.

@brandonknowles99

4 ай бұрын

@@ohiowoodburner dot inspection yearly $100 plus’s dot dumber and paperwork couple hundred bucks. Insurance double or more registration is triple yearly if not more. Dealing with commercial motor carrier cops. Pain in the ass. Trailer would be better

Before you go down this path, rent an enclosed truck with a lift gate and see if it will perform how you wish. There are lots of things to consider like maneuverability in your existing client locations that you may want to test run first. It might cost you $1000 to rent an enclosed truck with a lift-gate and pallet jack, but it might save you $10,000 in the lessons you learn.

I thought about this 5 years ago for in town and city residential deliveries. Tighter backing up than a trailer. Ended up going with a 14’ enclosed trailer, one less vehicle to maintain and buy , insurance very cheap with trailer. There is a few tight spots which had a small van , for our operation we don’t do enough volume to justify a van purchase. Good luck with whatever route you go.

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

Thanks Gage

I like the idea Joe! I’ve been considering the same idea for my bundle deliveries. I say go for it buddy!

Boy.. there sure are a lot of folks that would like to see you get a trailer. I will say its kinda nice to have a lift gate you can drop halfway and use it for a step. Used to work for a vending company and his box had fenders in the floor so maybe that's why the gate was able to be used as a step. Surprised you have to run DOT numbers. Pretty sure you can find loop holes for that. I know several people here in ohio that dont need them.

Love the tourist vids! Good luck with finding a vehicle.

Get inside the box and close the overhead door. Now in the dark you can easily see if daylight is coming through the sides or roof or other damaged areas.

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

If I ever come up missing you know where you can find me!

Mini 5 ton tipper, where you can also lay a baffle divider for mixed loads,,,

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

Thanks Adam

You may want to consider used FedEx Freightliner MT55 Step Vans for a wider comparison shopping experience. If you are forced by law to get commercial plates, a million mile vehicle like the Freightliner small and medium chassis comes into play.

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

Good to know but i hope to be retired by then LOL

@dustup2249

4 ай бұрын

@@ohiowoodburner Lol! I actually thought you were doing this wood splitting and bundling as a hobby to stay active and vital. That's a shame you have to spend this much and work so hard for little reward. You definitely will not retire on the proceeds of this micro-business.

Check out Penske and Ryder. They always have a Lotta box trucks for sale all over the country.

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

I'm on it Tony. Thanks buddy

Consider the expenses of repair and maintenance. Nobody uses a rental gently. Facebook marketplace often has big cargo trailers for $1000. I like the idea of dropping pallets.

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

Thanks Jim . I don't want to deal with a trailer

Those Grandma's attic are an excellent spot for catching a nap rain or shine

Joe, there is an old saying, sometimes you have to spend a little money to make more money. Go slow, make a good business decision & I’m sure it will all work out for you. Have you ever thought about an enclosed trailer? No motor maintenance, brakes & tire maintenance would be minimal & if your careful wall damage should be minimal. Cheap to register & I think if you stay under 10k lb. rating no DOT inspections. They make some really nice heavy duty trailers, you can spec what you want if you bought new. Load it up to the legal weight & you would always be ready to fill customers needs. 👍👍Have a great day. Keep the videos coming.😊

@user-td2qw6dg7w

4 ай бұрын

Joe, to bad you didn’t live closer to Turner, Maine. Scott’s Recreation has a huge supply of enclosed trailers. Give it time & you’ll make the right decision. Again, love your videos & keep them coming.👍👍 Have a great day. Dave D. from Auburn, Maine.

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

Thanks. I don't want the hassle of a trailer

I can see some advantages to having a box truck over a trailer for your business like it will fit in and out of places easier than a truck and trailer will. The loading and unloading without a lift gate would be tuff though. Added insurance shouldn't be too bad as long as you bundle or fleet insurance with all of your vehicles (personal and business since you're a sole proprietor) especially if you include a life insurance or renters policy in the bundle. Good thinking about how to improve your customer service 😊

@lyleharkness-rv5vf

4 ай бұрын

I don't know how it is in Ohio, but in PA as soon as you put a company name on your vehicle you can be treated as a Dot inspectable vehicle and will be treated as such at the discretion of the officer if you are carrying "freight".

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

Thanks Lyle!

Hi Joe. Maybe buying an enclosed trailer would be a better option.

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

I don't like trailers. I got away from using them when I first started with my dumps. Too much to worry about

Great videos! Very cool! LOVE IT! FUN TO WATCH! Keep the vids coming! I don't know nothing about box trucks, but after listening to you, for short trips around Ytown, I'd just go with the small one. Less hassle, fewer fees, less gas. Hire an employee to make the deliveries, maybe a hot babe! She could double as secretary/hr. Gotta think ahead there buddy! 🚚

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

I would but my wife isn't interested in driving the truck!

Joe, you need to make the decision, but you are kind of asking what we think, so. If it were me, I'd try an enclosed trailer, the problem is the F150 would be pushing the envelope with it's towing ability. of course you could buy a U haul and leave the name on it, I doubt if the authorities would bother someone driving a small U haul, lol... (I'm not a lawyer, nor do I play one on TV) For an office/break room, why not get a small camper trailer, something like a 14' tandem axle. Older ones go cheap and if the roof hasn't leaked too much, they are cheap office/break space. We had one on our logging site here in Colorado. It was a great place to warm up and eat lunch on cold winter days. I know of several people around here who have bought them for under a $grand to use as mobile chicken houses! Always enjoy your videos!

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

That would make a nice office for sure. Thanks John

Rolling a loaded pallet down a ramp might work for pallets that are loaded 2 feet high. Maybe 3 feet. Above that it will become too unstable. It is balancing on only three points that are not to far from each other. And the point where is only one wheel is the operators side. If you only load 3 feet high you loose so much space that I think the box is not used efficient. All logistic companies that are transporting higher loaded pallets use air operated ramps that move up and down and keep the pallets upright and only for discharging the pallet at the very end they tilt very little. I thought about this problem so often and could not find a mir clever solution than discharging the load of a trailer or truck by hand. Well there are cranes available to be mounted on trailers but those are not designed for pallets discharging is a serious problem.

My dump trailer the sides fold down. And put pallets or totes on it is easy. That might be cheaper than another truck.

Very nice Joe, I like your idea, now that is thinking outside the box... truck! No pun intended! I put a new engine in my favorite ford truck and now we are good for at least another couple hundred thousand miles! My mechanic recommended a Jasper rebuilt engine and I am very happy with it, that was six years ago and still going strong. Jasper provided a warranty as well which helped seal the deal for me.

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

Good to hear about the jasper. Thanks Tom

The v10 are powerful house. Very powerful u haul and tow about everything including the gas station. Uhauls are very good for keep up with vehicles and trailers. U can hail your bocat tractor with it. To shop or around house you put a lot bundles in room area. And cords of wood

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

That is what I heard of the V10. But they are very thirsty!

Go for it, Joe!

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

Thanks JB but I'm just not sure yet

You are right about international viewers liking the tourism shots. Thank you from me in New Zealand, Joe.

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

awesome Haggis! Make sure Bailey watches today's vid. LOL

@teacherhaggis6945

4 ай бұрын

@@ohiowoodburner Will do. I will forward the link to her. Cheers, Joe.

Another venue is Penske Used trucks they are very well maintained

I’ve kinda thought about a similar option. I’m now far along in the process as you. I generally split my wood into those large vented bags that sit on skids. I do deliver 1/3 bags on pallets to some restaurants that have pallet stackers. They love the convenience so it does get me thinking like a box truck with maybe a an Electric self loading pallet jack might be great for some of my restaurant deliveries. I rather spend the money on a jack than using the ramp! Thanks for taking us along the ride, but I bet some of your restaurants that don’t pay you to stack would pay more for something that is delivered in a pallet. I’ll stay tuned!

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

stacking is all negotiated into the deal.

That’s a great idea Joe. Just last week I seen two close to me for sale. Maybe they weren’t U-Haul chasesies but on a lot where they rent them. Both were GMC and no boxes on them. Great video, and excellent idea.

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

Thanks buddy. Not sure what I'm doing just yet

After months of hemming and hawing, I have finally ordered my Employee of the Month T-Shirt. Looking forward to the premium parking spot and some great(?) Ohio pizza!

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

preheat your oven to 400 degrees!

@mstyne

4 ай бұрын

@@ohiowoodburner I laughed a little too hard at this

YOU ARE SOME THING ELSE. SUPER QUALIFIED. SO SO GOOD. KEEP IT UP.

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

Thanks Jim!

That’s what I like about you, Joe. You think outside of the box truck. Enjoy The Journey - Cheers

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

Thanks Bob!

Another idea for the box truck, is if there is any local camp grounds or festivals were people have camp fires, you could load up bundles and park out front and sell bundles. Also opens the door for being able to haul more bulk to distant areas for sales. opens up doors to sell bulk to campgrounds farther out from your current area. If you really wanted to go all in, add a scissor lift to the box, and use it like an enclosed dump trailer.

Mr Joe I have a restoration business and I have bought UHAUL pickup trucks since 2012. I own 12 of them just got a 2022 last week they are only 2 years old with around 15000 miles or less. They really take care of there stuff. The 2 door and two wheel drive with a 8’ bed with the V8 are very hard to come by so they work perfect for the business. That should work great for you.

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

great to know Doug. Thanks buddy

Idea sounds very good Joe, I don't have any advice other than using your gut feeling when you believe you have found "the one". Good luck!

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

Good idea Bill. Mom always said to listen to your inner voice

Joe, are you planning on delivering loads larger than will fit into your pickup? If keeping your deliveries dry is the issue, a tall cap on the back would handle that without added vehicle issues (Tax, registration, maintenance, failure,etc.) As far as an office goes, check the government surplus auction websites. They’re always auctioning 8x10 - 8x20 sized office modules. I’ve seen some very nice, unused units on auction sites. Another thought along those lines, you seemed very happy with the people who you bought your 8x40 from. They might have something along those lines in the 8x20 or 8x10 range. And even if they don’t, ask them if they would be interested in pickup and delivery if you bought one at auction or know someone who would be interested. Food for thought. Your idea is like ones that I have at times. I’ll get really excited about it, but after a while, the adrenaline wears off and I see all the issues clearly. On the other hand, I don’t have all the information; an understanding of the big picture or a deep understanding of your future plans. Only voicing my thoughts and concerns, hope this is usable and helpful. Was watching Daniel w/EMF channel, talk about them showing up at your event, if I am not confused. Very cool. Edit: Joe, here’s a link to the offices available: www.govplanet.eu/jsp/s/search.ips

I bought a GMC 5500 cab and chassis truck from Uhaul. Built a 23' flat bed from Larch lumber use it as a farm truck. It's been really good so far. Uhaul will take offers, bought mine for a good deal less than their asking price.

I would check if your customer has a loading dock. If they do then the U-Haul will not be the right height. If they do you could unload with a pallet jack right into their dock.

Hi Joe - its Big Rodders in Ireland. I have no knowledge of the truck market or legislative requirements in the great US of A. However, my initial thought was that you would have an immediate uplift in your capital expenditure, running costs and hassle of looking after more equipment. Its up to you to calculate whether the increase in your bottom line justifies this commitment. Have you considered getting a rear cab for your open F150 machine, rank up your bundle production using this delivery system and defer a truck purchase while the viability of such a purchase becomes clearer? I checked out Chagrin Falls, its a small place even by Irish standards with only 4000 inhabitants but it was where Leader Tractors were made in the 1940s, a make I'd never heard of before.

Charging Falls used to be the home of a company called Technopower. They made superb multi-cylinder, radial model aircraft engines. (One of my hobbies) A friend and I once visited that factory. BTW ASM has a huge geodesic dome that houses the international material standards facility, not far from Chargrin Falls. If you aren't already familiar with it, it's well worth visiting. Shalom/gw

Great scenery at the beginning with that waterfall, splendid! The scenery of the rest of the video was a bit less with ugly trucks haha. Honestly, if an extremely strong V10 engine is 'killed' after a merely 140K miles, I would run away as hard as I can. An engine doesn't give up like that -> low coolant, low oil, head gasket(s) shot, not warming up the engine and tranny, now yeah, that doesn't help the longevity...

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

I agree. Ithink there isn't a consensus that the motor is junk. The dipstick looked good to me. Not sure yet buddy

You calling me a liar? In the early 80's Ford introduced the F-150. For the first few years the F-100 was still made. F-150 offered a v-6, but the F-100's only six was the old 300 straight six. I bought an F-100 just so I could get that bullet proof engine. Damn thing blew up at 38,000 miles. Only engine failure I've ever had.

I am not entirely sure why you need this and whether makes sense for you right now. You are 1 person, can only drive 1 truck and have 2 already, 2 dump trailers. Cover your bundle palettes with stretch wrap, rain won't be a problem and you can put them on your trailers.

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

I am trying to get away from trailers. I like your thoughts however. Thanks

The final decision is yours!! Hopefully you'll find which way to go!! Stay Hydrated and Have a Safe Day

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

Thanks Dave!

" the idea of a box truck is very appealing to me..." This seems to be a case of an answer looking for a problem to solve.

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

Interesting way of looking at it

If you want to go van I'd go with one of those Mitsubishi flat nose cab over styles with the little diesel engine. Personally I'd get a nice f250 and a flatbed with a pallet lift that pulls itself up to travel on back end. Then you got a nice truck for everyday use and a way to pick up a small load of logs or nice slab cuts from a mill

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

Interesting thought JB. Let me think on that one

For getting around in town i get a truck over a trailer........in mn you have to have a cemercial license as well. You could always rent one and see if it works......jmo.

Seems like a good idea to me. Especially in bad weather. As for the ramp goes i don't see an issue with that as you could park anywhere and be out of the way.

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

Thanks Dan!

A box trailer sounds good to. Or check out some other vehicle rental yards like Hertz.

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

That is on my list Jon. Thanks!

The one with the rusty rocker panels is the best one having said that is because it will not leak into your cab like the other kind that has the cargo bed built in the cab

Like the idea Joe, loading and unloading tires a body out so first thing would be a fold down bunk for the tire out body to rest on especially if a big lunch is had after unloading 😅. Y'all have a great 👍 day

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

Thanks Mike!

you'll run that pallet jack down the slick ramp about 1 1/2 times and youll get the lift gate

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

I must have not explained myself well. I wouldn't use the jack on the ramp. I was thinking of a dolly etc

hi there buy 3 of them one for a office (dog house )one to store and deliver bundle wood , one for back up , good show best to all john

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

lol I like the way you think John!

I can just see a BIG O.W.B On the sides and back. Great for advertising whether its on the road or parked. Hard decision but best of luck. 🤠👍👍👍

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

Thanks Lance!

I have seen firewood getting delivered out of box vans like these. I think this could be a real asset to the operation as long as you buy the right one. If Joe’s operation continues to grow then an extra delivery vehicle would be real helpful. He would probably use the box van in ways he hasn’t even thought of yet.

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

Possible but I am finding this a difficult decision

@johnrosier1686

4 ай бұрын

@@ohiowoodburnertake your time, weigh everything out, and if it’s worth doing then make it happen.

Hey Milo, Do you remember the TV commercials, featuring Juan Valdez carrying the Columbian coffee beans over the mountains? Maybe he has family who stormed our southern border and might be interested in delivering firewood on their donkeys. I'll bet they'd work for cheap. Joking aside, you could probably buy and restore that van cheaper than you could buy a new one. Shalom/gw PS. Nice to see you thinking out of the box, van that is. lol

Good Morning Joe: I’ve been thinking the same thing for bundled firewood. I’m also considering an 8 foot bed pickup with a camper shell and bed slide or a small cargo trailer. Because the area I live in gets a lot snow, 4WD is a better option. For an office space, I’m considering a cargo trailer or an office trailer. I have a V10 F350 dump truck and it’s been very reliable, but sucks down fuel.

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

Good to hear Rich. I have also heard they are very thirsty

Good afternoon Joe. Just got home from work and saw your vid. I do have a lot of experience with box trucks. Never bought one from youhaul. I currently own a 2012 E450 with a 5.4 liter engine 189,000 on the clock. Our truck has a 16 ‘ box on it. Engine fires up in any temp but does use about a quart of oil every thousand miles. The 450 chassis is the way to go. The GM built trucks I’ve had in the past were not built anywhere near as heavy duty ( frame , front suspension, and brakes) not even close. I did have the trans rebuilt, I haul a lot of weight plus occasional trailer. My thoughts are that those trucks you’re looking at are not used anywhere near as hard as mine. I’m not sure about a DOT inspection for a truck that size , I’ve never had one. Only trouble I’ve had was crossing the state line into PA. No DOT numbers on the truck. Cost us a nice fine $$$

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

That is bad to hear Wayne about PA. I need to look into DOT before I go forward. I can say the frame etc are very heavy duty

To see these different sites that you show give us that what the country looks like in various parts. One of the thing this truck is very turning circle of the unit and whether it get out some of the drives. It is hard to comment on the usage truck as we do not know how much you plan to cart her load with it at any one time. 😀😀😀😀

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment John. Where are you from?

Go for it

I had the 6.8L V-10 and the exhaust manifold bolts broke on me. Very thirsty. 9 mpg. Also the Ford front end is Squirrley because the steering gear box and steering shaft universal joint gets sloppy. So if you get into one of these and feel like it’s loose even after you have replaced the ball joints and tie rods check there next.

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

will do. Thanks Brian

I know trailers are a pain for you but look at it this way. What if the box truck motor or tranny needs repairs, out of commission and you have orders that needs filling ASAP. You can always rent another truck to pull your trailer while your own truck goes in for repairs. I have seen a lot of vanlifers getting these box trucks, convert them into box campers which works pretty well for them. If your heart is set on a box truck, just keep looking. There is one that would suit just about all your needs with minimum repairs if needed. My vote is the trailer. I know I'm in the minor crowd lol.

If you have chickens and some land you can be a farmer. Farm use vehicles have a lot of perks and cost savings. Personally I would definitely look into it

Joe, I have read a number of your comments where you say you don't like trailers and you have gotten away from using them when you got your dumps. Not sure what you mean exactly...are you not using your dump trailers for deliveries...just using them in the woodyard?

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

Pretty much. I haul wood back from my producers to my wood yard and there are two restaurants that use them for deliveries. These are easy bc of the wide loading docks. For residential delivery etc they are a NO GO. too much, too tight, too difficult

G'day Joe, thanks for showing that town where did you drop the wood 17 Grille ?

Well Joe, i was gonna say a trailer, but i see your reply below. Depends on the difference in the money. If i could i would go for one thats running versus not.

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

I can see it both ways. I hate to get into a money pit!

Pretty good idea. I would check to see if the width of the ramps these trucks come with will handle a pallet jack. Offhand I think a pallet jack is too wide for those ramps, but I am not sure. The implication is that having such a truck PLUS being able to deliver wood in your IBC totes would be a probable winner. Having such a truck just to deliver loose wood is IMO not such a great advantage, although in either event, the advertising of having the big "OWB" on the side could be a big plus. So to me, a lot depends upon whether you can actually drive a pallet jack up one of those ramps loaded with a full IBC, and I am not sure that can be done. You might need to mount a winch at the front of the box to pull loaded IBC's up the ramp. That's not the biggest of big deals.

Hey Joe yeah, the E450. The drive cranes are pretty reliable on them. The V10 is probably the best engine combination that could be in them. For someone like yourself and I don't think they would be too bad. Until March for around town for what you're doing. Like you say, if you put a couple of totes or palates of bundles, and then when you got to your delivery, you were able to use a Dolly to download. The band had several stops to do it once. You could do it all-in-one trip. Yes, do you halls? Are pretty maintained that I guess the knock against them would be. That's Dave had many different drivers rather than one driver all the time. Because everybody drives different so anyways. Can't wait to see what you do and as far as your d. V. W. I think you would be N2 like commercial driver, but not a full class class. One type driver like with your VWI don't think you would need medicals. It doesn't take a special license. Yes, it's yearly inspection. And yearly plates because you would have commercial points, your biggest cost of all.That will be your Insurance

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

good things for me to consider Kent. Thanks for your insight

You are already used to pulling a trailer, consider a cargo trailer. There would be much less expense with a trailer and you could still put your name real big on the sides and back of the trailer. Trailers are much cheaper to maintain in the long run.

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

I don't like trailers. I got away from using them when I first started with my dumps. Too much to worry about

Ok folks......... a trailer won't work. Joe has to back into tight places. A van truck would work out nicely. Put a bulk head in the middle (removable of course) that would hold a face cord or half cord and he could make make 2-3 deliveries in 1 day. plus he could put bag wood in the front ledge or kindling. The possibles would be endless, with some creative ability ( which Joe has plenty of)

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for having my back John!

Buy the blown engine one, get it towed to your yard, use it for an office. I like the office idea. Keep cuttin'

My question is can you put it to enough use to pay for the expense? They are pretty exclusive on what you can do with them in a firewood business. Apparently, you have already done a lot of research about the expenses involved in purchasing, repairing, maintaining, licensing, et., so the real question is will it's use justify those expenses. As others have mentioned, maybe an enclosed trailer might be more "profitable". You'll figure it out, I'm sure. I have learned enough about your business operations to trust decisions.

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for the nice comment Ron. Thanks

That would be a great idea for bundle wood, and you know that truck can take a ton of weight in it.

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

These have A LOT of leafs on them for sure Frank

They do maintain their equipment really well

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

that is def their reputation

Joe…old truck would not be my move. You’re far better off with an enclosed trailer, like landscaping companies often use. 👍

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

Thanks RG. I don't want to deal with a trailer however

mobile billboard ,, use the sides as advertisement for your company , thats what i did when i was in business , worked well . good luck .

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

Thanks Woody!

Joe, if you're thinking if one for your bundle firewood business, do like you did starting your firewood business. Just go by faith & take the plunge. Whatever you do,I'm sure it will be for the best. Oh, by the way, you ought to give your viewers employee of the month!!!! Lol Have a wonder day

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

haha! "Honorary" employee of the month!

Keep looking Joe , you need a lift gate

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

That would be nice but too much $$ rn

Please make sure you have a camera rolling the first time you roll a full skid out of this bad boy on a pallet jack!🤠

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

haha I would do the whole pallet at once. A few at a time

@waynetharp

4 ай бұрын

@ohiowoodburner OH, come on...I thought you YT creators would do anything for a viral video?!?!🤠

I think having enclosed delivery is great. Having another vehicle to maintain, insure and license sounds like more hassle as you highlighted. I’d go with an enclosed trailer that you can use with your current trucks. Just my personal opinion. Looking forward to seeing what you do. 👍🏼

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

You see it my way too buddy but I am not into trailers. I have gotten away from them with my dumps

Keep looking

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

haha. I hear you Barney

I simply avoid the DOT stuff. Even though I already have a CDL for my day job.

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

Good to know buddy

Consider what you are hauling ... You talk about having a pallet jack on board.. this takes up space.. no lift gate will be an issue.. maybe not a first... but it will be an issue.. Why not a small stake truck with lift gate .. cover the load with tied down tarps.. easier to load and unload.. saving money.. you might even be able to find one with a tilt bed..

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

Most stake trucks are a lot heavier than this. Still I need to know about the DOT side of things

Buy a tarp, those box trucks with a V10 in it will be a money pit! No lift gate is a big drawback….

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

Good feedback. Thanks Roger

If you go UHaul, get their service record for the truck you're interested in purchasing. FYI

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

It was provided on the sales sheet. Very thorough

I would box trailer. You already have 2 trucks to move it

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

I don't want to mess iwth trailers for deliveries.

You may be on to something here can only imagine between nine and or twelve neatly stacked rows rolling down the road to the delivery must say what I really see here with the box truck is a potential future kiln

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

haha that was literally my same thought!

@user-xd5cc7kg8u

4 ай бұрын

The possibilities with a box truck really are endless

I have a tree service. Get free wood, hate splitting and selling it. However, if i was a firewood man. That would be the trick. Wood stays dry.. cant lose any off the truck... Be dry and wind off you while pitching it out or dollying out your bundles. I mean it would work.

Delivering out of a box truck without a lift gate doesn't make much sense to me. If you have to transfer from a pallet to a hand truck there is simply no advantage other than a roof over your head. Those ramps take up too much space in your customer's parking lot and forget parking on the street. The constant up and down on the tail end is another consideration. Also those under body ramps can be troublesome in winter weather if salt and slush get in the rails. You can already handle a couple of pallets in your current dump trailer using an inexpensive pallet jack to move the second pallet to the tail.

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

That was my point about the pallet jack that it would stay in the truck. I would move the pallets to the bumper etc

A guy followed me a few blocks in to a grocery store I was thinking something must’ve happened but he wanted to buy my trailer he said it’s perfect size for what he wants no sir not for sale the he made me a offer for it and it was a couple hundred bucks more than I paid for it 25 years ago

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

holy cow. You got your money's worth out of that trailer for sure Randy

Just moved some furniture with an E350 U -Haul box truck and found the ramp to be VERY narrow. I don't think a standard pallet jack would have fit on the ramp and even controlling a chest of drawers going up or down the ramp was a scary solo act. Take your tape measure and a pallet jack on your next truck shopping trip....

@ohiowoodburner

4 ай бұрын

I wouldn't use the ramp except for a dolly.

Doesn't pencil out but makes for good video!