Can court orders against discrimination change same-sex couples' lives in Hong Kong? | DW News
In 2023, the territory's highest court ordered the government to create a legal framework for same-sex relationships. But since then, affected people tell DW nothing has changed.
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I feel sad for the people of Hong Kong. They were offered a life of advance and freedom for a long time and now it's with the mainlanders retrograde grip they are going backwards.
@benombati6501
Ай бұрын
Hong Kong will not tolerate nonsense like lgbtxyz nonsense
Shocked they haven't moved to the UK, yet.
@pollutingpenguin2146
Ай бұрын
The UK is a dump
@boiscooka232
Ай бұрын
Did u think Hongkong still British colonies? 😂
@pollutingpenguin2146
Ай бұрын
The UK is a dump
@geeksworkshop
Ай бұрын
@boiscooka232 I don't understand what you think you know. Perhaps do a little research and find out before finding yourself so clever.
@RaymondHng
Ай бұрын
@@geeksworkshop It costs a lot of money to relocate to another country.
The world should realize that Hong Kong is no longer a place where the rule of law is the fundamental value of the city.
@gideongiggie5017
Ай бұрын
So apparently now same sex has been introduced in the rules based order for u to trade or access the Caucasians loans yall must accept their abnormalities too. Apparently the city is safe but somehow they still disregard rules lol. Last time I checked gay couples in the usa have a higher risk of being harmed than any western country lol
Report on the following "European" countries first ... Armenia, Belarus, Bulgaria, Croatia, Georgia, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldova, Montenegro, Poland, Serbia, Slovakia and Ukraine. Albania, Azerbaijan, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Kazakhstan, Kosovo, North Macedonia, Turkey, and Vatican City ... especially the last one. Just because most of 'western' Europe do, doesn't mean it is universal values.
@serebii666
Ай бұрын
? Those countries are not defying their own high courts in implementation of rights. And for the EU members, they indeed do recognize same-sex spouses for the purposes of immigration and family repatriation as a harmonized rule. "doesn't mean it is universal values." We all know China doesn't respect the UNDHR, but Hong Kong not doing so is actually noteworthy.
@D_isco_D_ancer
Ай бұрын
WHY DONT YOU REPORT IT INSTEAD OF ASKING OTHERS TO REPORT IT?
@jesusaguilar4585
Ай бұрын
Kazakhstan is not a European country but rather Central Asian. If you believe it is then you should include Russia in that category as well
@EventH
Ай бұрын
@@jesusaguilar4585 I apologize for mischaracterising the situation regarding Kazakhstan. I mistakenly believed that that Kazakhstan is among the list of countries that were part of or being actively courted by western Europe (EU or NATO) to join in the circlement of Russia, while Russia is de facto excluded from Europe due to the current situation. Cheers :)
@jesusaguilar4585
Ай бұрын
@@EventHIt's understandable when you consider not just the courtship of Kazakhstan but attempts into Asia to encircle Russia such as of all places Mongolia.
As always DW gives good coverage and provides intelligent and reasonable guests and for some reason the comments (many being Russian bots) respond with reactionarism.
@pedrojulio1960
Ай бұрын
I am from Argentina. The damage that LGBT are causing is scaring!
@DriveInFreak
Ай бұрын
@@pedrojulio1960 What damage?
@user-lvqk2wdp8sjn
Ай бұрын
@@DriveInFreak The damage they inflict on the Argentinian peso, of course.
honestly i dont have a problem with gay people as long as they are not attracted to me of course
Good luck with that
If it's illegal, why are the courts demanding they make laws to make something illegal, legal? That's not their job. The courts are to interpret law, not create it.
@shadowfurydono
Ай бұрын
People don't know these basics. They think "we don't like it, why aren't courts doing something"
@Vinvininhk
Ай бұрын
However, it is also the highest court's right and responsibility to determine which law is illegal under the Basic Law (the city's mini constitution). Since the Basic Law protects people of all gender orientations, the Highest Court has decided that the current system is discriminatory against non-heterosexual people and it is within the courts right that they demand this be changed.
@d.austinvaughan773
Ай бұрын
@@Vinvininhk Exactly
@mariatorres9789
Ай бұрын
@Vinvininhk Not prosecuting someone for their sexual choices & identity, is completely different than changing what the definition of marriage is. All of time, through every culture, until now, marriage is a male & female union. That's natural law, because that's how it's been for thousands of years.
@Vinvininhk
Ай бұрын
@@mariatorres9789 Firstly the court did not order changing of marriage, but asked for an alternative path for the legal recognition of gay couples. Second of all, sorry, but in Chinese cultures for thousands of years marriage has not been between a man and a woman, but between a man and his 3 wifes and his 4 concubines. Polygamy was only outlawed in Hong Kong as late as 1971 (changing the definition of what marriage is). And in olden times women were expected to have 3 obediences and 4 virtues and so on. Times change and so must society and so must we, we can't run the clock backwards.
In the west, it all started with give us the right the get married and to love who we love. Now you get cancelled for saying a man can't be a woman and not accepting the rainbow ideology
@jeremytine
Ай бұрын
No it's the bigots that want to. Cancel people for living their life
@d.austinvaughan773
Ай бұрын
Its almost like society becomes more progressive the more educated, tolerant, and compassionate people are. A century ago western society was overtly racist and women were just getting the right to vote. We can only hope that the essential human rights of LGBT people continue to be expanded across the world in places like Hong Kong. Still a lot of work ahead even in Western Europe.
@gustavojoaquin_arch
Ай бұрын
It's because the parasitic libertarians have expanded their ideology
@MargaritaMagdalena
Ай бұрын
@@d.austinvaughan773The US has gay marriage and 54 per cent of adults read below a 12-year old's level. Sooooo "educated" 😅
Strange, how about European treatment of Roma or the Sintis in Germany
@serebii666
Ай бұрын
Strange, how about the Chinese treatment of Uyghurs in China
@Jana-se4kv
Ай бұрын
What about it
@user-lvqk2wdp8sjn
Ай бұрын
@@serebii666 And at the same time, cosmetic surgery is a multi-billion industry among the Chinese.
I agree with China.
@WildVoltorb
Ай бұрын
Why?
@user-lvqk2wdp8sjn
Ай бұрын
@@WildVoltorb The nation has 30 million "superfluous" men.
@1:50 I know this isn't the issue at hand...but why is IVF 20 times more expensive in the US? Now I'm feeling discriminated against!
Based
Today DW: Hong Kong denies rights to LGBTQ couples Next day DW: India denies rights to LGBTQ couples Next next day DW: Indonesia denies rights to LGBTQ couples....(Yawn)
@D_isco_D_ancer
Ай бұрын
Speak for yourself. I like their content.
@williamlai29
Ай бұрын
@@D_isco_D_ancer I am sure you do.😁
Nonsense 🤬🤣
three words; ling ling ling...
I feel truly sorry for all the same-sex couples in Hong Kong who are struggling with this. I hope there will be better days for all of you! 🏳🌈
@happyatheists9361
Ай бұрын
🤣
@pedrojulio1960
Ай бұрын
Here in Europe Germany we should forbide LGBT flag.
In Gaza they also don't have any rights
Because China says Noooo.....HK have to follows.
@user-lvqk2wdp8sjn
Ай бұрын
What about the 30 million "bare branches"? Will they revolt?
You can't expect the rest of the world to adopt a predominantly Western concept of same sex marriage. I'm an American who believes in it but would not impose it on other nations
@DriveInFreak
Ай бұрын
What's to impose?
@jesusaguilar4585
Ай бұрын
@@DriveInFreak If you look at my governments American foreign policy, it has LGBTQ rights as part of it.
@RaymondHng
Ай бұрын
Taiwan legalized same-sex marriage. It is not a "Western concept".
@joexavier4070
Ай бұрын
@@RaymondHngit's A strong western
@RaymondHng
Ай бұрын
@@joexavier4070 Asian opposite-sex couples get married too. It's not a "Western concept".
Go China! The world needs a just leader
@D_isco_D_ancer
Ай бұрын
True!!!! Thank you AMERICA FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP!!!!
Its will be best for the world if all gay n lesbian move to western countries win win
🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦
Gay people in a non-Western country: "We want to have equal rights!" Geniuses on youtube: "No, western concepts shouldn't be forced onto other cultures 🤡"
Welp time to move in Hong Kong i guess
@d.austinvaughan773
Ай бұрын
Yikes! I can't imgaine someone defending the HK courts denying homosexual couples from having the same legal rights as heterosexual couples!
Look elsewhere, probably try another planet and find out the human rights violations by aliens on LGBTQ Aliens. Let's have a galactic pride parade.
Why Elon musk don't criticise the dictatorial regime chinese ?
@hyndscs
Ай бұрын
What's that ABBA song Money money money
Hehe west on CCP human rights looks other way now LGBTQ rights oh innocent Hong Kong 😅😂😊
@Wombat7777777
Ай бұрын
I have no idea what you are saying.
@user-me3hn6mj5j
Ай бұрын
@@Wombat7777777 He's talking about how it's funny that the west isn't assisting hong kong in this matter
@rarirover44
Ай бұрын
@@Wombat7777777 BECAUSE YOU ARE RITURDED😂😂😂
@serebii666
Ай бұрын
@@user-me3hn6mj5j " isn't assisting" And how would they do that? Hong Kong is part of China, unless you are implying they should invade? Regardless, the UK has already opened a priority path for Hong Kongers to immigrate, already from HK's prior Rule-of-laws violations.
No to westernization No to lgbt Glory to mother Russia 🇷🇺 Free Palestine 🇵🇸
@serebii666
Ай бұрын
Yes to prosperity Yes to LGBT End terrorist state Russia End Hamas
@gustavojoaquin_arch
Ай бұрын
Based 🗿
@gustavojoaquin_arch
Ай бұрын
@@serebii666cry libertarian, Russia is winning
@serebii666
Ай бұрын
@@gustavojoaquin_arch Winning what exactly? the International Pariah Olympics? Oh noes, they took North Korea's title! Russia is cooked and will be for the foreseeable future, especially when they lose the far East to China, who is already redrawing their maps.
Two women can"t have children together. Children needs they mother and father. Not 2 mothers. Stop this nonsense
@gustavojoaquin_arch
Ай бұрын
Based 🗿
wow what an important issue, it's not like people have other more serious problems in hong kong like the secret police killing people or that many people live in cages
@geeksworkshop
Ай бұрын
Wow, what do you think is going to happen to the gay folks with no rights
@reinhard98
Ай бұрын
@@geeksworkshop the majority is more important than a minority
@huhujojo1968
Ай бұрын
Woke metastasizing around the globe.
@SamuelKissinger
Ай бұрын
Dude it's all important, this is a issue for many people who live in Hong Kong, imagine the other issues as well people have to worry about on top of the fact you can't get married to your partner, it must be infuriating to have to deal with stuff like that
@oli_theelite
Ай бұрын
@@reinhard98 the majority loses nothing from this though?
Based Hong Kong
@caranaar
Ай бұрын
what a sad little worm
@lucaskohl1037
Ай бұрын
I'm Sure youre rooting for communism and autocracies in the Same way
@TheGrace020
Ай бұрын
its not hong kong anymore its CCP!
@leagueaccount6254
Ай бұрын
whats funny is that ukraine does not allow this either, and the US alone has given them 500billion, that they are willing to admit. But they are our allies, DW should report that
@KingJoker31
Ай бұрын
@@leagueaccount6254 completely irrelevant point. Two nations can be allies despite not being completely aligned in all aspects and issues. And just because someone supports Ukraine in their fight against the russian invader it doesn't mean that they also support the negative practices ocurring inside that country.
The only True and only kind of legally binding marriage is between a man and a woman - This is the divine order of the HOLY CREATOR. Stop living a disordered life. Look to JESUS CHRIST and call upon HIS name if you believe because HE[JESUS/YESHUA] is the love of GOD ALMIGHTY the FATHER to HIS people in the world.
Hong Kong has decided not to have their cultural norms undermined by applied postmodernism/Critical Social Justice. Well done, Hong Kong!
@geeksworkshop
Ай бұрын
Because their Cultural Revolution was such an uplifting event.
@Memovox
Ай бұрын
@@geeksworkshop The end of UK colonialism certainly was.
@zacharymalone9901
Ай бұрын
@@Memovox So you're saying a woman who was born gay doesn't deserve to raise a child with another woman? I would like a yes or no.
@Memovox
Ай бұрын
@@zacharymalone9901 I would like you to respect other cultures norms. Do you think you could do this..? A simple yes or no will do.
@d.austinvaughan773
Ай бұрын
"postmodernism/critical social justice?" You mean basic human rights and dignity for people who merely have to live a different lifestyle?
W China
Anyone who thinks the CCP will grant their desire is insane.