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I dunno, Airbnb used to be cheaper than a hotel, but now that 80 a night rental with a 150 a night cleaning fee is getting out for hand
@Clarke1013
Жыл бұрын
and when you say 'for' you mean 'of', right?
@naima8392
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I agree. I am nit to keen on using Airbnb.
@novadhd
Жыл бұрын
stay longer
Will take a hotel any time! Everything is working or taken care of, no cleaning fees, no cleaning that you have to do yourself, no need to cook, breakfast and dinner always available, no hidden fees, reception 24/7 and staff always there to help you immmediately! And booking is done within couple of mins. I always had great experiences with AirBnb but it was just too much hassle and I ended up too tired from living in a home and not in a ”always ready for you” spotless cleaned splace without having to deal with the owner’s abode quirks.
@assizetech9059
Жыл бұрын
don't forget that you can cancel if necessary too
I used to be an Airbnb believer, but it just doesn’t make much sense anymore for most type of trips. It’s getting so expensive, it’s easier and often cheaper just to get a hotel.
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Hosts got greedy, investment groups came in with their coup on the housing market and pushed out the family looking for their hard earned American picket fence docile. This video could have been summarized in a minute half.
“Tiny Home”. Please. It’s a dressed up double wide trailer, an RV, a kids tree house w upscale marketing run by hipsters leveraging green anxiety.
@paulinbrooklyn
Жыл бұрын
Wow! You viewed and summarized well some KZread videos posted by tiny home owners who were somewhat jaded by their experiences. What is the plausible relevance of those objections to spendings night or a week in a tiny home that is well located and has decent reviews? Everything you write might be true yet an Airbnb rental of a tiny home might be a superior option to a hotel or motel room (especially travellers with young children) and might also be an excellent investment for a property owner too.
@Nill757
Жыл бұрын
@@paulinbrooklyn Of course a trailer can be a good investment. Or not.
This company is gonna have to face some challenges, prices equivalent to a hotel and restrictions by hosts. I mean I feel like I can’t even relax because I’m breaking a rule. If price is equal I rather stay at hotel with security, employees around the clock and closer to main tourist areas in most cities.
@NicholasYg
Жыл бұрын
Only true in North America, prices are cheaper than hotels in Europe and APAC.
@samelmudir
Жыл бұрын
Also, many hosts take forever to reply where it’s taken me a week just to book something and wait 24hrs for each request. With a hotel you have your booking right away.
@beetdiggingcougar
Жыл бұрын
Hidden cameras everywhere too and can't depend on them being clean. So happy to stay in hotels now.
@TitusAzzurro
Жыл бұрын
@@beetdiggingcougar This should motivate people to lose weight. If you're gonna be spied on at least look fab ;)
@mycaddigo
Жыл бұрын
Please stay at a hotel… And feel free to break their rules…
I think it’s bad for local housing market, lot of investers moved in and capitalized on this and shot up housing prices while the local economy can barely afford any of this let alone the cost of goods nowadays… somethings got to give. Jmo
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very well covered!
Potential recession? We are in a recession by textbook definition.
@erikarobinson3557
Жыл бұрын
Right!
Nicely explained.
Airbnbs hosts have raised their pricing to the point that hotels make more sense many times - which hotels are typically cleaner and nicer anyway. I’m not sure how one controls that but it’s off putting. Not to mention the fear a host will randomly cancel you.
@gp7910
Жыл бұрын
I work on the hotel industry but am also an Airbnb owner . If you think hotels are cleaner you.wouls often be mistaken. Rugs hide dirt and pillows and blankets are not washed a lot
This earnings report came out yesterday. Did you even have time to do due diligence and then make a video on that time? This earnings seasons have had lots of hidden surprises.
I had a horrible AirBnb experience where this host made duplicate keys for all the condos he owned in San Diego. Had a family open the door on us at night and it was the wildest thing ever. Never again…
@msjannd4
Жыл бұрын
🤯
@naima8392
Жыл бұрын
Wow! Thx for sharing your experience.
Love airbnb
Inspired, Make me look around and think "can this be a good or service?
Shame on Airbnb and on the hosts for charging so much, almost as much as hotels.
@anarchy1090
Жыл бұрын
Bruh it’s a house it’s better than a hotel , more space how is that a shame?
@naima8392
Жыл бұрын
I agree. We are not using Airbnb as much as we used to.
“…incredibly lean company” is right. They’ve outsourced the majority of their support team. It’s the worst I’ve ever experienced. The way AirBnb treats their Hosts is bad for business and I think it’s going to eventually show itself
@naima8392
Жыл бұрын
It has already started showing.
Airbnb is one of the main reasons for our "housing shortage". It brought in investors who have snatched up properties in every major city, flipping them into temp rentals. If local governments work to oust Airbnb, it could reverse the trend of record property value and shortages. End the greed.
@TitusAzzurro
Жыл бұрын
AirBnb made renting easy. But people with cash money have been buying houses as an investment since... forever.
@StephenBates7
Жыл бұрын
@@TitusAzzurro yes but not at this rate, and not as many single family homes. Some wealthy individuals own hundreds of properties all dedicated to Airbnb, not long term rentals.
@customjuices
Жыл бұрын
This.
@AdHardyMusic
Жыл бұрын
Only private people should be allowed to rent on Airbnb, and the problem would be solved.
@pentrubarbati
Жыл бұрын
government shouldn't ban airbnb or tell a private owner to do something or what not to do to there property that is called comunism and is not fun
In Germany/nordic countries in Europe Airbnb is not anymore that much more convenient than an hotel. Better an hotel room on booking or expedia.
@hnn8759
Жыл бұрын
Wrong love airbnb
I care most about devastation of working class & any hopes for affordable housing by greed that snapped up 2nd & 3rd homes in misery of 2008.
We booked 6 one month rentals in 2022. Seems strange to me that there are not more bookings.
@msjannd4
Жыл бұрын
They've really jacked up the fees!
Potential recession? Even WSJ changing definition of recession.
Valuation is still steep. No way i'm buying this at a 70 billion market up. You'd have to be insane.
The costs to renters and local jurisdictions likely exceed the benefits to travelers and property owners. Airbnb might, as claimed, suppress the growth of travel accommodation costs, but these costs are not a first-order problem for atomic families.
I never had a bad air bnb experience, lol. I don't even think I have ever been to one below a certain rating though, it is interesting hearing comments about air bnb being bad. I wonder how many are actually real?
@Chironex_Fleckeri
Жыл бұрын
The downside is you've probably been recorded in one of those bnbs.
@Blackjack09721
Жыл бұрын
@@Chironex_Fleckeri I think most places have cameras including hotels, I do see cameras in air bnbs but I don't think there is any places of temporary residence that doesn't have a camera. Plus the highly rated air bnbs have not been weird experiences, and most of the owners have been pretty responsive.
@msjannd4
Жыл бұрын
I had my first horrible experience in Italy in June. After paying for a whole month, I had to leave two weeks in because I didn't feel safe. Checked into a hotel and took a train father south. The host was verbally and emotionally abusive with a personality disorder or two. Plus, she states on her profile she spoke English. She doesn't. She harassed me the whole time I was there with text messages. I was so traumatized. Writing for the first time publicly about it without getting triggered. Now I'm in a place and feel so safe. I just got unlucky I suppose, because I had never experienced anything like it before. I thank God I had the money to leave!
@techcafe0
Жыл бұрын
@@msjannd4 Please don't make the housing / homless crisis worse than it already is, don't ever support Airbnb again.
Its like the half pints at bars. Making the big beers more expensive
In order for Airbnb to be successful all these hosts need to get rid of their dumb fees. Airbnb needs to take more control of what hosts can charge so that the costs are lower and much more flexible for the customers. That’s why Airbnb was good when prices were low and reasonable.
@msjannd4
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely agreed! It has become harder to use it because the fees have exorbitant. 😖
@anarchy1090
Жыл бұрын
Just charge the price u want don’t add stupid fees, ur paying for a house with several rooms kitchen etc backyard etc.. this is not a hotel and that’s why prices are high on them it cost a lot for a family to leave their home while u stay in it so it needs to be profitable.. if u don’t like it go to a hotel
@gp7910
Жыл бұрын
@@anarchy1090 Exactly Felix ! Most Airbnbs offer way more for the money than a hotel. But it seems no matter how good of a deal people complain and ask for discounts. I tell them they can get a flop house hotel with bathroom and shower son the hall for more than my luxury one bedroom with kitchen,home theatre,reclining couch ,washer dryer ,in a trendy neighborhood 😆
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Жыл бұрын
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Жыл бұрын
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I enjoy renting places in AirBnB superhost. As long as host are responsible and on top of things, there should not be any issue (major/minor).
Does Airbnb have a solution for the listings that charge crazy fees. They only charge $100 a night to seem like a good deal, but after the fees its like $400 a night.
@hnn8759
Жыл бұрын
They can charge whatever fees they want, you can choose another option
Potential recession?? Lol we are currently in a recession
@dylanmerritt3396
Жыл бұрын
You can't enter a recession if you keep changing the definition of what a recession means
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the economic of AirBNB = cleaning fee.. XD
'Hundreds of dollars a night' No thank you.. many airbnb's are pricing themselves above good hotels. It makes long stays impossible and short stays not worth it..
My next door neighbor in my condo decided to rent out his unit and five other units in the small building. Not once in a while, every night, not a couple people, 8-10 in a 2-bedroom unit. The kicker? It's illegal in my city without a special license. Air bnb does not check if they are licensed. I jump through a million hoops to complain, they said they cannot do anything. Basically turning residential housing into a rental car, no accountability, no responsibility.
I now book hotel. Airbnb got expensive now
You think its cheap until you get to checkout page.
I came here to Virginia Beach for a week first I looked airbnb. After seeing the crazy prices I decided to rent hotel room now I'm in hotel room and I'm happy Airbnb is a trash
Can’t beat the security of a hotel, a pool… plus the price is the same !!! Airbnb will be gone is 5 years
No. Because room rates will go down in a recession and so will the number of stays. Airbnb will be hit very badly just like any hotel/online travel agent
@naima8392
Жыл бұрын
I hope so as they charge so much, so many admin fees, cleaning fees, even when the place is lit clean, etc..
excelent video
Airbnb does affect long term market
@ivantejeda
Жыл бұрын
Hey @Organized Chaos 👋 I’m thinking about making a video on this. Let me know if that’d be helpful. P.S. If you have any questions about starting & growing your Airbnb business lmk.
Airbnb, ain't cheap tons of fees....hotels are cheaper.
It would be cool if AirBnB hosts didn't cancel reservations in order to book the space at a higher rate to someone else. That just happened to my brother when he came to visit Vancouver for a weekend, the host cancelled on him last minute and there was no other affordable option left due to so many events happening the same weekend, so he ended up vowing to never use AirBnB again and booked a hotel instead. I feel lucky that I haven't had that happen to me yet! But I am definitely wary now - and with AirBnB's charging just as much as hotels in some places, makes you think twice about using their service. I used AirBnB in off-season traveling in Italy which was nice but thinking about when it's high season for tourists, I feel like people will get cancelled more often.
@cbbrosnaham3739
Жыл бұрын
Shawna, you are right there has been a huge problem with host cancellations and Airbnb has put a huge fine (really huge) and probably end to much of that challenge with cancellations by hosts. As a community leader with airbnb myself and superhost over 5 yrs. I think this will help many people like you and your brother with the fears of cancellations. I've never cancelled a guest in 5 yrs. But had several guests cancel. And they don't think twice about it. So I didn't know how big the problem had become until the new changes have just been brought to us all. I think you will be able to rest assured now, unless its a major unavoidable problem like the A/C crashing, a major leak or such there will be very few cancellations by hosts. all the best to you.
Hotels are great for one night stays or traveling as a couple but Airbnbs are ideal for bigger groups and workations
During the pandemic I traveled up and down the west coast where I stayed in each city for a month each all on airbnb
I just posted a video analyzing AirbnB's stock, would love your opinion on the company
I never stay in a hotel anymore if I can avoid it. AirBnB offers kitchens, a quiet location, a beautiful spot that’s private, etc.
@techcafe0
Жыл бұрын
great, thanks for your contribution to the housing / homeless crisis 🤨
@pib4ever
Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Hotels are corporate scams. Dirty sheets almost every other time I used to check in. Hidden fees most don’t even know until their checkout receipt.
@pelokay1
Жыл бұрын
@@techcafe0 yea Because Airbnb is the cause of Why people are homeless in America
But why the CEO sounds so sassy 💅💃(I'm here for it)
AirBNB is part of the pseudo sharing economy. What sets it apart from the traditional hotel market is that it has shifted the fixed costs of the business onto the hosts. As an example traditional taxi companies owned and maintained its cars which costs a lot of money. Uber shifted the fixed cost onto car owners which makes it a more efficient and profitable company that has put taxi companies out of business.
@letsburn00
Жыл бұрын
Its not necessarily more efficient. The main driver of their companies model appeared to be low quality. Either by underpaying drivers or hiring lower quality ones
How sway?!
is the recession in the room with you right now Aug 22 2022 WSJ
The nail in the coffin was “Must take out trash to designated site, make sure dishwater and dishes are washed and dried, and houseboy picked up” Yet they still slap a $95 cleaning fee. At this point your better off at a hotel!
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I think it is the greatest idea and safety where most hotel fell to deliver on privacy and safety for tourists who are professional on vacation but not professional tourists
@clivebaxter6354
Жыл бұрын
How do you know an Airbnb host is not crazy?
airbnb customer service is another potential risk. its probably one of the few companies where its dissatisfaction rate increased after speaking with a customer service. Especially regarding to sensitive issues, like racism
Airbnb has helped drive up rents like crazy
Rented an AirBNB once. A municipal zoning officer showed up to tell us it was an illegal rental. Never again.
@ctgal9698
Жыл бұрын
There was one in my area recently which was being rented out with no heat, running water, or electricity. Zoning finally condemned the property and it was removed from airbnb listing. Unbelievable
"You will own nothing and be happy" Airbnb fit well for this.
@stgermain6488
Жыл бұрын
Airbnb is the best when wanting to live abroad for an extended amount of time
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Airbnb has been golden for me when coming back from overseas in a temporary displacement between my next destination and coming back to the mainland for tax purposes. I plan to start getting into it since I use it so much for my business moves.
Vacasa is better. But they work with Arbnb
I don’t know man, I agree with him. People are going to keep on traveling, whether a recession happens or not. Airbnb, airlines and hotels will be bullish next year.
Airbnb the gentrification machine.
Who wrote this headline? We are in a recession.
Nah, hotels are still better also AirBNB really skewed housing problems
From my personal experience AIRBNB customer support doas not work at all. If you host you have no possibility to call them. It just do not work and if you are using services someone pick you phone but tell you no with even worse english than my. I can not imagine what would wappenend in case of any disaster.
The worst part about this recession is that consumers are racking up credit card debt. In April alone, credit card debt went up 20% while rates have doubled in a year. Inflation is so high that consumers are literally taking debt for basic life necessities. Collapse is near.
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Жыл бұрын
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Жыл бұрын
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Жыл бұрын
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Жыл бұрын
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Ive been a host since 2015, zero party incedence. It blown out of porporcion.
@floridaswampman7648
Жыл бұрын
It is not blown out of proportion. Its nice to hear that you as a host are on top of yours.
@ingislakur
Жыл бұрын
@@floridaswampman7648 It is, they still talking about that one Halloween party many years ago.
AirBnb during the pandemic was terrible!!! So many listings that wasnt active
Airbnb is no longer the -Cheap- option 🚨
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Can Airbnb
Hopefully not , property values are out of control Airbnb isn't helping.
I had a bad Airbnb experience also. Also, checking out early of a long term stay (even with the host’s approval) caused me to lose our Airbnb didn’t return the fees. Hotels are better
People, should be able to do what they want with their own properties. It's there right.
I'd rather stay at a hotel than pay for someone's mortgage. AirBnB is making the housing crisis worse.
Nothing these two people say gives any confidence that this company will be a good long term investment.
Just for example, 95% of rentals in Montréal are illegal. But sure they can go on about their innovations
Stop calling it a "Potential" recession. It's a recssion.
@spacetoast7783
Жыл бұрын
Yep. That's why the US is experiencing deflation and high unemployment.
@spacetoast7783
Жыл бұрын
Oh wait...
Amazing a website company such air bnb, Uber, etc, scalping a percentage of rental fees for just designing a website is supposedly 'worth' billions. These supercomputer corporate owned conglomerates such as zillow, redfin, Blackrocks, Blackstone, etc.,should be banned from the real estate market.
@Sonofawildanimal4241
Жыл бұрын
They stink!
My experience with airbnb was so bad that I want to use anyone other than airbnb.
I’ll take a hotel. It’s cheaper and there’s no fees for random things you’d get at a hotel with no questions asked.
@pib4ever
Жыл бұрын
Try to take a pet to a hotel and see what happens. Not only will fees apply but you get kicked out without an apology. And don’t get me started on hotel hidden “resort fees” and “parking fees”
the answer was no btw
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Theres an Air BnB in our Neighborhood and the police are there every other night its a nonstop party house thats bringing crime to our neighborhood and dropping our home values. Pray one of these dont start in your neighborhood.
@liechter
Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't dropping home values be a good thing as it allows lower income people to buy real estate?
@floridaswampman7648
Жыл бұрын
@@liechter maybe for you.
@loon7181
Жыл бұрын
@@liechter lol it's funny how some people are like "airbnb are bad! they make properties more expensive" while there's the completely opposite end of the spectrum that says "airbnb are bad! they make property values drop!".
can't airbnb, and wsj, do anything else except dragging you to recession?
Hotels are better by far
4:10 how is that an Airbnb problem at all? It’s a law problem. Just stop people from being allowed to have guns in the first place.
@fl4650
Жыл бұрын
Started good, then you went off the rails 😂
“Short-term Rental” are weasel words for TOURIST ACCOMMODATIONS. Airbnbs are HOTELS and should be licensed & regulated, and subject to the same tax obligations, zoning regulations and hotel industry standards. Airbnbs deplete housing stock, drive up housing costs, and destroy communities. Please do not support Airbnb, because it’s playing a devastating role in the current housing crisis by reducing supply, robbing renters of places to live, increasing prices and ruining communities. We're in the midst of an extreme housing crisis, where long-term tenants are being mercilessly evicted from their HOMES. Airbnbs do more harm than good, socially and economically.
@lc9991x
Жыл бұрын
Many cities do treat Airbnb very similar to hotels in terms of zoning, service tax, etc
@techcafe0
Жыл бұрын
@@lc9991x really, where, what cities zone for Airbnbs? No city in my country, Canada, does this, the Airbnbs are popping up like weeds everywhere, contributing to housing shortages and astronomical rents.
@starshockey11
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@naima8392
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💯 % agree
Here's the problem. An apartment is $2k/month. You can make $100 renting it on a daily basis. Now the apartmet is $3k/month. Do you understand how this works?
@pelokay1
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So before AirBNB what was the cause of rent being raised ?
This a millennials and Gen Z company, boomers don’t understand this lifestyle. It’s definitely going to be around for a while.
Nope, Americans are doing day trips can't afford gas and utilities!
AirBnB is NOT affordable
@pib4ever
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Not all hotels are the same price. Airbnb is affortable for every weekly business trip I’ve taken. Research
Airbnbedbugs, cochroaches and mice or rats. Videos on let's be honest about airbnb show the reality. I rather pay too not have things moving on their own inside the place I'm sleeping. I don't do bugs or wildlife inside a space.
Economics of greedy people that makes strangers pay to stay in their extra home and clean it for them before they leave.
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If you want to be a slob and go into someone’s home with a luxury kitchen, spacious bedrooms, outdoor space, etc, who offers it to you for the same price as a dingy hotel with one window and a mini fridge, go ahead. Also don’t forget to make a cup of coffee in that filthy coffee machine from 1984 they recycled. 👌🏻
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