Can a SCOOTER SHOP fix a TURNTABLE using SCOOTER PARTS? (philips 437, GA-437)
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Everyone knows the secret to a happy workplace is GOOD MUSIC! And the best way to listen to music is on vinyl of course! But when I brought my vintage record player into the shop it needed a little TLC before it could provide the tunes we were after.
In this video I diagnose and repair a vintage Philips model 437 turn table with a speed issue causing the record to spin too fast. When I first plugged the record player in it seemed to do nothing at all. The platter did not move and I didn't see or hear anything that lead me to believe that anything was working at all. But when I removed the platter to get a closer look I discovered the motor was actually running just fine! The drive belt had just deteriorated over the years. So I grabbed the closest thing to a turn table drive belt I had near by: A GY6 valve cover gasket o-ring. THATS RIGHT SCOOTER PARTS TO FIX A RECORD PLAYER.
But when I got it back together and threw a record on it I noticed that it was playing too fast. Not so fast that it sounded like Alvin and the Chipmunks but a whole-step up. Meaning a song that was originally pitched in A was now playing in B.
I dove back in to the underbelly of the turn table and with the help of my friend Gary Standley I found a main capacitor on the drive motor was out of spec. Knowing that this MUST be the cause of my issue I soldered a new one in its place but found that my records were STILL playing too fast. I realized I had gotten carried away and started guessing at components before I knew the turn table had a good "state of tune". I had assumed my valve cover o-ring was as good of a drive belt as the original equipment.
Once the replacement "original style" drive belt arrived I quickly realized the error of my ways. The factory-style belt was square and fit much further into the motor drive pulley. Effectively reducing the radius of the pulley and altering the drive ratio.
With the correct belt installed my turntable played at the correct speed - verified by our very out of tune shop piano.
Here's a link to the drive belt I installed: www.lpgear.com/product/PHLGA0...
Here is a link to the record I played in this video: amzn.to/3Ge0pHY
I feel the need to mention that Adrian Oviedo and Kaichow Lau were not only featured on the album cover but also recorded artists on the record. Kai was tracked on Violin and Guitar and Adrian was tracked on the drum set.
Special thanks to Kev Bev for the license to use this tune in my video! Kev Bev is still gigging frequently around Austin so check out their website www.kevbevmusic.com/ to find out where to catch them next!
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Loved PHILIPS hi-fi separates, especially their 1970s products like this turntable. And that funk track was great too!
@Scooter_911
9 ай бұрын
I know right! So serviceable! And thanks for watching
You're a man of many talents Garret.
"I don't think it's gonna be too complicated..." You jinxed it! Hahuahuahua!
@Scooter_911
2 жыл бұрын
hahah should have seen that coming!
Bout time I see a new vid lol. Good looks man.
"the shop piano"...I love it!
@Scooter_911
2 жыл бұрын
Every shop needs one I tell ya!
Bro the fact that you not only have parts lying around to fix an old turntable but were ALSO in an actual band is awesome!! From another gearhead who does music as a hobby, Rock on dude!!
@pyro-millie5533
2 жыл бұрын
“I know enough about electronics to be dangerous” omfg SAME LOL
@Scooter_911
2 жыл бұрын
Glad to meet a fellow gear-head rocker and thanks for the encouragement!
Nothing like the sound of a record to take you back to your childhood. Clicks and scratches reminding you of that time your little brother was screwing around trying to play your Iron Maiden LP's, even after you threatened to nail him to the rafters by his toenails if he touches your records again. Not that I ever would have said such a thing, or would I...
And the Slamaha 😁 that shop looks awesome. Congrats!
@Scooter_911
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks dude!
I don't mind waiting for taotao vids. After all, you are running a business first, and a YT channel second I watch a lot of techmoan and VWestlife so I knew when you slipped on the GY6 valve cover, it was going to change the pitch/speed of the music. But it's good that you turned this into a learning experience for yourself and the viewer
@Scooter_911
2 жыл бұрын
they're coming soon! thanks for hanging in there!
@Captgreatvalue
2 жыл бұрын
What’s a taotao
Thanks for reminding me to tear into my curb rescued technics sl3200
Geeze, that's something that I need a damned Turntable!
@Scooter_911
2 жыл бұрын
everyone does!
I had no doubt you could fix it , Keep that vinyl spinning.
@Scooter_911
2 жыл бұрын
You know we will!
Cool vid. Ratio is ratio. U effectively made the small pulley larger.
@Scooter_911
2 жыл бұрын
absolutely!
Funky.... I like It
8:00 There's cool, and then there's "scooter shop with a piano" cool.
@Scooter_911
2 жыл бұрын
Now that we have it I cant imagine working in a shop without one!
I do miss living with a tao tao but I do like the new video's
@Scooter_911
2 жыл бұрын
The tao tao will make a "triumphant" return soon. We even have some special surprises in store.
@robot797
2 жыл бұрын
@@Scooter_911 mmmmmm interesting I am looking forward to it
So...you had a motobecane pulley situation there, eh? My first ride was the copper colored Moby model, such a crazy design with the engine gradually tucking up into the chassis as you went faster. Wish I had kept it.
Good video. 👍 What ever happened to the tau tau?
My friend has the same one I’m trying to replace the rca cables and the im wondering if someone glued it down because I can’t pull it out. How hard was it for us to remove the main board?
It must really stretch that belt to get around those wings to engage the other speed
@Scooter_911
2 жыл бұрын
they actually are pitched a lot like a propeller. They just sort of slap the belt down or up to the next pully.
Are you doing shop related merch???? Awesome video
@Scooter_911
2 жыл бұрын
We've got it in the works. Right now we just have the tee spring store
@itsmephil2255
2 жыл бұрын
@@Scooter_911 looking forward to seeing them
i'd put the old capacitor back in its place, it was an x2 rated safety capacitor, the new smaller one you used is not
@Scooter_911
Жыл бұрын
Wow great info! Thanks for looking out!
It's a Phillips Tau Tau😁
Why does my belt get stuck when I switch to 33 and 45 rom
Where did you find the Belt ?
Did the Kai rolla ever get finished I really enjoyed those videos?
If you connect the mag-cart turntable's ground to the stereo's antenna ground port, it'll act as a proper ground for it... or so I've heard.
@Scooter_911
2 жыл бұрын
We ended up running a wire all the way up to a screw on the back of the stereo's chassis.
@pancudowny
2 жыл бұрын
@@Scooter_911 Tell me: Once those connections were complete, did it seem you needed to turn-up the volume "excessively" to bring the sound to a listening level equal to that of the stereo's other inputs/functions?
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PINTO TRIP I REALLY WANTED TO SEE IT
@Scooter_911
2 жыл бұрын
I'm working on the edit! It will be out soon!
well, I'm sure that that means that it's (the O-ring) too thick, or thin, making it fast/ slow> faster in this case!
@Scooter_911
2 жыл бұрын
yeah the o-ring was too thick so it didn't sit far enough down into the pulley effectively making the drive pulley larger.
or just too much tension?
Tao Tao not Bow Wow
@Scooter_911
2 жыл бұрын
Its coming soon! I mentioned it at the end of the video!
@exgtt2061
2 жыл бұрын
Haha cheers mate, hope the new shop is getting plenty of work 👍
Simple Europe is 50 hz US is 60?Hz either change motors capstan to small (change gear ratio ) or change motor or motor speed electronically
@charlespaine987
2 жыл бұрын
I had to do that on return from over sea
@pyro-millie5533
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah with the way that motor was set up to be fed directly from wall power, I was thinking the +10Hz difference it was recieving in North America might be making the difference. However it seems like it was just the belt profile messing with pulley dimensions lol! I would have lost my mind trying to find the perfect capacitor to adjust the phase for 60hz input and probably still would have been stumped. I’m glad Garrett used his Mechanic’s problem solving strategy and tested the most simple potential problem first
Curious if ur gonna finish living with a tao tao
@Scooter_911
2 жыл бұрын
Its going to make a comeback very soon here!