Can A Crypto Utopia Really Exist? | Cryptoland Roundtable

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From Liberland, to Puerto Rico, to El Salvador, people around the world are turning to the blockchain to create their own visions of crypto utopias. But what happens when crypto meets the real world, and can crypto utopias really exist? Should they?
In this Cryptoland roundtable, VICE News talk to Motherboard’s Edward Ongweso Jr, and Jillian Crandall of Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute to talk about what happens when crypto idealists cross paths with government.
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  • @gagen5
    @gagen5 Жыл бұрын

    What in the hell is that constant painfull noise and who tought it was a good idea to put it over people talking?

  • @algernopkrieger7710
    @algernopkrieger7710 Жыл бұрын

    Anyone else picking up on astroturfing in these comments? Generic names with the same typos is a little suspect.

  • @bartonfarnsworth7690
    @bartonfarnsworth7690 Жыл бұрын

    Jillian already does a great job of pointing this out (as an oligopoly), but further to that point, with the prospect of crypto-mining moving towards proof-of-stake (whereby the amount of a currency you currently have increases your chances of mining the next coin) for many coins (particularly the Etherium-based ones), is it not true that over time these currencies become increasingly centralized? Furthermore, since the governance of many of these coins (that is, the future developement of them) are often decided based on the influence of those who hold the largest portion of them. And now, the discussion around a literal, real-world, policial-power proportional to your wealth, how is that not simply a complete consolidation of power, both in the digital and physical world?

  • @vinny142

    @vinny142

    4 ай бұрын

    " is it not true that over time these currencies become increasingly centralized?" The funny irony of crypto is that it was designed to be a decentralized currency that no bank could manipulate it's value, and now everybody and their uncle can manipulate the value of any crypto coin just by spreading a few rumours. Today, some 15 years since crypto started to become a thing, nobody anywhere accepts it as a currency *because* the value is so unstable. The simple truth is that nobody trusts a decentralized system, because the only reason to decentralize it is that you want to get rid of oversight and oversight is what makes a product trustworthy. Even the blockchain has proven to be unreliable *because* the servers that they are hosted on have no oversight to make sure they are not hacked.

  • @michaelhall7546
    @michaelhall7546 Жыл бұрын

    Why no show about people losing their life savings on crypto?

  • @spacesoup6797

    @spacesoup6797

    Жыл бұрын

    because not everyone is stupid enough to invest high and sell low lol

  • @michaelhall7546

    @michaelhall7546

    Жыл бұрын

    @@spacesoup6797 so only shows that cheerlead for crypto? You're probably one of those cheerleaders too bro

  • @WeaponOfMyDestructio

    @WeaponOfMyDestructio

    Жыл бұрын

    I can go on Reddit and see that

  • @tiborsaas
    @tiborsaas Жыл бұрын

    Guys, if you really want to add an ambient soundtrack, at least pick only done ones, arpeggiators don't help with focus :)

  • @johntheawsomeful
    @johntheawsomeful Жыл бұрын

    When did you guys start talking about Blockchain? Talk about $hex $xmr and $torn

  • @spacesoup6797
    @spacesoup6797 Жыл бұрын

    buy low sell high

  • @tellibanana
    @tellibanana Жыл бұрын

    When has the blockchain ever helped anybody outside of a pyramid scheme?

  • @amelakn
    @amelakn Жыл бұрын

    This is digital colonialism, a form of digital imperialism. The crypto cowboys benefit from the geopolitical and social relations that emerged from settler colonialism. Settler colonialism was not illegal but it was wrong. Crypto-colonialism may be legal but it is wrong. These libertarian experiments in poor countries where crypto cowboys are able to get access to cheap resources (due to coloniality) and one’s level of democratic agency is tied to their crypto holdings (similar to how enslaved black people as 3/5ths a person for the purpose of increasing slave masters’ voting power). This system Is literally digital colonialism masquerading as development and that’s being done with the complicity of the government. They are literally workshopping digital oligarchic systems in the global south to boomerang it back to global north some day in the future.

  • @abaracskai
    @abaracskai Жыл бұрын

    Ancaps would want you to believe it’s possible. But it isn’t.

  • @freyawildesciencefictionau8156

    @freyawildesciencefictionau8156

    Жыл бұрын

    you would leave it up to the government to decide? the state? you realize political rulers are not the good guys. Normal people don't desire to rule over others. Let the people decide!

  • @abaracskai

    @abaracskai

    Жыл бұрын

    @@freyawildesciencefictionau8156 There's plenty to go around, the idea of money is now absurd, and the idea of profit only leads to misery. Money should be abolished along with other contrived constructs we conjured up to keep ourselves from reaching our true potential.

  • @GoyavoCity
    @GoyavoCity Жыл бұрын

    Wth is that horrible pinging sound

  • @Cballin
    @Cballin Жыл бұрын

    not any more lol

  • @Blackgriffonphoenixg
    @Blackgriffonphoenixg Жыл бұрын

    Even those of us with brains who hate crypto should want scam island to work out, because it means all the cryptobros can bugger off and stay there.

  • @e.s.4017

    @e.s.4017

    Жыл бұрын

    We should create a navy for protection By that I mean we blockade this island and keep them there forever

  • @spaceorbust6636
    @spaceorbust6636 Жыл бұрын

    Wow this was unwatchable due to the background music. Just why?

  • @tiborsaas

    @tiborsaas

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I had to stop the video to check what other tab was playing :D

  • @Minttusuklaarae
    @Minttusuklaarae Жыл бұрын

    first

  • @Pandahhhhhhhh
    @Pandahhhhhhhh Жыл бұрын

    Lmao Crypto island repeat 🤣

  • @antskaval85
    @antskaval85 Жыл бұрын

    pointless

  • @0xc0ffea
    @0xc0ffea Жыл бұрын

    Seems this is juts a crypto hype channel now, guess you guess over invested .. bye!

  • @arichanson5907
    @arichanson5907 Жыл бұрын

    No slight to the two but I feel like I'm watching two plumbers designing a house. They have some good points but the perspective has a current lean. Crypto is still in a an early stage and easy to imagine going in multiple directions.

  • @number-won
    @number-won Жыл бұрын

    Decentralized

  • @freyawildesciencefictionau8156
    @freyawildesciencefictionau8156 Жыл бұрын

    Voluntaryism is the doctrine that relations among people should be by mutual consent, or not at all. It represents a means, an end, and an insight. Voluntaryism does not argue for the specific form that voluntary arrangements will take; only that force be abandoned so that individuals in society may flourish. As it is the means which determine the end, the goal of an all voluntary society must be sought voluntarily. People cannot be coerced into freedom. Hence, the use of the free market, education, persuasion, and non-violent resistance as the primary ways to change people’s ideas about the State. The voluntaryist insight, that all tyranny and government are grounded upon popular acceptance, explains why voluntary means are sufficient to attain that end.

  • @theyoutubeguy1
    @theyoutubeguy1 Жыл бұрын

    Yes, it's called Crypto Island, baby!

  • @jon1805
    @jon1805 Жыл бұрын

    why is it so hard for women to simply answer the question asked, wtf was that first 2 minutes. christ, gtfo

  • @Tehrawrzorz

    @Tehrawrzorz

    Жыл бұрын

    Seriously. Ive never fast forwarded so quickly

  • @patrobertson1919
    @patrobertson1919 Жыл бұрын

  • @jessicarector286

    @jessicarector286

    Жыл бұрын

    Please how do I get about it, am still a newbie on investment trading

  • @patrobertson1919

    @patrobertson1919

    Жыл бұрын

  • @patrobertson1919

    @patrobertson1919

    Жыл бұрын

    +𝟏𝟗𝟎𝟖𝟓𝟏𝟕𝟒𝟑𝟗𝟓☎️෴ᚙᚙ꧂❱美国美国....

  • @GailBSoto

    @GailBSoto

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks I’ll get in touch with her right now this will help me out

  • @Brandonames4080

    @Brandonames4080

    Жыл бұрын

  • @burnie896
    @burnie896 Жыл бұрын

    Unsubbed, get off the crypto bs

  • @1234tyrano

    @1234tyrano

    Жыл бұрын

    ✌🏾

  • @burnie896

    @burnie896

    Жыл бұрын

    @@1234tyrano ✌🏿

  • @spamosky

    @spamosky

    Жыл бұрын

    Resubbed. Keep talking crypto.

  • @burnie896

    @burnie896

    Жыл бұрын

    @@spamosky you resubbed? how undecided are you

  • @jamesjross

    @jamesjross

    Жыл бұрын

    So tired of this bullshit dominating so called tech news.

  • @aikam007
    @aikam007 Жыл бұрын

    Yes it can. Crypto will replace banks which are fleecing you as much as they want.

  • @Blackgriffonphoenixg

    @Blackgriffonphoenixg

    Жыл бұрын

    you say this while gas fees exist

  • @ChocolateMilkyYummy

    @ChocolateMilkyYummy

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Blackgriffonphoenixg crypto is a scam, bitcoin is not.

  • @aikam007

    @aikam007

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Blackgriffonphoenixg they are already way smaller than you think they are right now

  • @freyawildesciencefictionau8156
    @freyawildesciencefictionau8156 Жыл бұрын

    These two sound like politicians. Shudder. Currency should be on the free market also. The best regulators are the people. Let them decide. They sound like statists. :(

  • @MrWadeBarrett
    @MrWadeBarrett Жыл бұрын

    Crypto is still a scam, wake up you sheeps

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