This is exactly why the term “college kids” has always felt weird and most definitely infantilizing

@TenMillionYearProgram42

Ай бұрын

In fairness most of them are dependent on their parents during school, so they're not really independent adults yet. I think the name is appropriate. They're legal adults but not independent yet, so kids it is. Also, prefrontal cortexes and such.

@richardlyman2961

Ай бұрын

A title which progressives rush to embrace when they are involved in sexual contact with older people.. they are clearly not fully formed adults yet and often make decisions that will haunt them with regret for decades

@thisdudegotreal

Ай бұрын

@@TenMillionYearProgram42 By that logic all rich kids lack independent prefrontal nudity.

@TenMillionYearProgram42

Ай бұрын

@@thisdudegotreal yes.

@QuietlyHere666

Ай бұрын

​​​@@TenMillionYearProgram42 many adults are dependent on their parents for things like housing and medical insurance, living under a brutal economic system doesn't make you any less an adult. If they can be sent into armed combat then they're an adult that deserves the respect and dignity as such (Also, many people go back to school, not all collage attendees are fresh out of high-school)

"Be realistic. Demand the impossible." Goes so fucking hard

@jordanthompson8268

Ай бұрын

Typical communists lauding contradictions as if they're something to aspire towards.

When you think of History Repeating itself, you think of people being ignorant of the past. Rather, we should be more concerned that the badguys can learn just as much to ensure History Repeats itself, giving them a second chance.

@authenticinquiry

Ай бұрын

Excellent point. They use history and weaponize it.

@Tacom4ster

Ай бұрын

Conservatives are too uneducated, actually hates education, so don't worry that much

@degreeskelvin3025

Ай бұрын

This! They know just as much as we do and know to learn from their mistakes. I feel like that's what wage slavery is: just an evolved form of slavery/feudalism that avoids the pitfalls of it's predecessors by keeping the people pacified through consumerism

@darkshadowrule2952

Ай бұрын

And I used to think the whole ignorant of history thing was because people weren't even trying to learn the real history of things, but like now, seeing it in real time? Like we gotta do everything we can just to make sure that history doesn't get distorted as it's being written

@deadbeatSad

Ай бұрын

I've often said the same thing after studying the Alt Right. Those who do not learn from history, are doomed to repeat it. Those who do learn from history, are destined to replicate it. No matter who you are or your stances, you're going to repeat and replicate history.

Maybe it's the fact that I live in a very conservative part of Canada, but I'm seeing a lot of people that are proud of not going to college, verbally bashing the student protestors. I don't think that's coincidence.

@lornm1856

Ай бұрын

Good why go to collages funded by islamists

@belmiris1371

Ай бұрын

I understand being envious of people who can afford college. I don't understand the support for the political parties that made education unaffordable. I think that is classed as 'being stupid'.

@too1leasy

Ай бұрын

I went to college and these kids are fucking stupid.

@BloodSplatterArtist

Ай бұрын

Because the protestors are wrong and a liberal arts degree isn't the badge of honor or ticket to life success it was in the boomer generation. No reason they can't be proud to have found their own avenue to success without crippling debt and useless indoctrination.

@nada3131

Ай бұрын

@@belmiris1371And it’s also worth noting that while expensive (and very variable) university is still way more affordable in Canada than in the US

The whole part at the end about infantilizing college kids, just as Hillary Clinton goes on TV and infantilizes college kids.

@too1leasy

Ай бұрын

They're whining like babies, so...

@crisgetcrucified6972

Ай бұрын

​@@too1leasytheir whining prevented your grandpa from dying in Vietnam, or becoming a child killer.

@crisgetcrucified6972

Ай бұрын

​@@too1leasythat whining prevented your grandpa from dying in Vietnam, or becoming a child murderer.

The most "unrealistic" situation I ever found myself in was the aftermath of a natural disaster in a small US Southern city. The whole county had no power for a week or more and there was no chaos. People immediately took it upon themselves to start clearing roads, cleaning up debris, checking on neighbors. Like, our whole ZIP Code had a community meeting with a potluck lunch that we all somehow assembled having no electricity. It was so the local politicians could put in an appearance and you could find a representative of your insurance company to talk to - but clearly there was no logistical reason that meetings for community meals and democratic self-organization are impossible. The difference between a normal day and a disaster response is the illusion of control.

@peterthegreat996

Ай бұрын

Because functioning adults were there

@joeyj6808

Ай бұрын

The media grabbed the narrative after Katrina, but the facts on the ground were of Mutual Aid in disaster - people helping their neighbors. Some of us remember the reality.

@jahliafinney707

Ай бұрын

On one of the episodes of behind the bastards, they thoroughly discussed this phenomenon. Essentially, when disaster strikes, people are more likely to assemble into multiple prosocial groups(with the goal to rescue survivors, clean up debris, make sure people have food) than devolve into lawless monsters.

@joeyj6808

Ай бұрын

@@jahliafinney707 Nice to meet a Crooked Zone Media afficianado out there in the wild!

@armorclasshero2103

Ай бұрын

​@@peterthegreat996only when the politicians weren't

History doesn't repeat itself, but it often rhymes.

@gordonsulc8319

Ай бұрын

Mao's cultural revolution.

@arandomlemon6707

Ай бұрын

​@@gordonsulc8319evangelism

@revwolfe

Ай бұрын

@@gordonsulc8319…has vanishingly few parallels to the current situation, unless you view history through a funhouse mirror lens?

@QuietlyHere666

Ай бұрын

​​@@revwolfe they might be wanting that period of history to rhyme

@gordonsulc8319

Ай бұрын

@@revwolfe Nah. You just have to not be an idiot. I'm sorry that's difficult for you.

When human rights can be packaged as politics without question, whether people deserve to live with rights and dignity becomes just a matter of opinion.

@isaac1670

Ай бұрын

As I've gotten older, I've realized that most people/institutions don't really believe in human rights. I applaud those who stand up for them.

@Gettothegone

Ай бұрын

History doesn’t repeat itself but it often rhymes. Same thing happened during Vietnam. College kids protested on campuses while the working class fought in the actual war. Their protesting is admirable but a larger class based movement is needed to pit power against power.

@VLADICADIDA

Ай бұрын

@@isaac1670 The funny thing there is that societies, or countries, or should I say nation-states, have OBLIGED themselves (in terms of how we agreed treaties function, or what the sources of law are) to adhere to rules and norms that guarantee certain rights to individuals as a matter of national and international law. It is, therefore, not a question of belief but of obligations. However, there is always this notion of belief involved when we talk about human rights. Imagine saying or thinking (and acting upon it) "I believe that taxes are bullshit" and simply living in line with that thought. I believe that sooner, rather than later, someone would tell you to pay up. Unfortunately, with human rights, unlike with taxes, we always need to remain vigilant and fight for the respect thereof. Things can go south quite easily and quickly.

@treefrog3349

Ай бұрын

Bravo! I love it when wisdom emerges amidst the din.

@isaac1670

Ай бұрын

@@VLADICADIDA You're right, and I'm not arguing against the defense of human rights. I wasn't as clear as I should've been, but I was trying to point out that the legal obligation to defend human rights doesn't mean much if the people who agreed to defend them doesn't defend them. That's why I have so much respect for the protesters. They are calling out the institutions out on their hypocrisy.

It's like young people have the energy and idealism to engage in activism.

@Petch85

Ай бұрын

They still believe in change and still have an imagination.... But give it a little time and they will be numb like the rest of us. 😵

@pierzing.glint1sh76

Ай бұрын

​@@Petch85 yes...tHe trick is it to make a difference before life gets in the way of a greater purpose

@Petch85

Ай бұрын

@@pierzing.glint1sh76 yer... But even when you see change, the change is often super slow and it oscillates. You just see the same thing again and again and it just gets old.

@pierzing.glint1sh76

Ай бұрын

@Petch85 just do your bit before you have to get a regular job like everyone else.

@ernimuja6991

Ай бұрын

And the naivety and impressionability to be pushed to do so.

As an ageing guy, let me just say that college students really do have so much energy.

4:53 to Skip the ad

everything is political, just as everything is philosophical. if you think not, you're defaulting to the politics of the status quo

@Marta1Buck

Ай бұрын

Have you read it somewhere? That is beautiful 😮

@fouadmaghamez7101

Ай бұрын

Man I have just posted this on social media, the last time I posted anything maybe 3 years ago when I was high. I am totally sober now, and find this absolutly spot on

@BladeTrain3r

Ай бұрын

Indeed that big dump I left in the toilet this morning was very political.

@pootispencer9765

Ай бұрын

Ironically, yes - and it's a good example! Somebody has to regulate toilets, sewers, water treatment, etc. Even the shitter has social, political, and economic implications - just ask the people who've experienced life without porcelain poo catchers! It's absurd, but politics is always involved at some level. Does that mean the toilet is politically significant? Not if they're working okay. People get the most politically involved when something really isn't working right, like our tax dollars being funneled into messed up arms programs which are more concerned with making dough off tragedies than defending the country, or taxes being pointlessly overcomplicated.​ Hope you have a great day! @@BladeTrain3r

@fouadmaghamez7101

Ай бұрын

@@BladeTrain3r Ironically, being stupid also is very political

My controversial opinion: people shouldn't assault other people

@chinstrappenguin6603

Ай бұрын

Maybe it would be wise for you to condemn the counter-protestors then

@dalekrenegade2596

Ай бұрын

​@@chinstrappenguin6603Exactly.

@tomzimny7408

Ай бұрын

Counter-protesters, I condemn you! 💪

@yourfriendlyinternetmeatshield

Ай бұрын

​@@tomzimny7408 now, the thought needs to be considered.... How much do we condemn the counter protestors? Enough to assault them? Is it logical to, being aware of history and clear patterns of those in authority and power, simply assume, given all the available data, non violence was never an option, because that's is the default response, inevitably, of those types.... What changes with non violence? Non violent protestors die, are injured, jailed, and maybe, maybe a token effort is made for change. Yeah I'm sure George Floyd would be SO PLEASED that the BLM movement got aunt Jemima and Uncle Ben canceled. Just..... Thoughts... Reflection upon patterns and history.

@maurofranklim5533

Ай бұрын

The violence of the oppressed is not the same as the violence of the oppressor

I think one of the major benefits of college that people almost never get again, is having a walkable city. They def have accessibility issues, some better than others, but the point is that you don't have to have a CAR just to survive! That combined with more time for exploring various topics and your own mind with a diverse group of people is a recipe for understanding, activism, and positive change. I'm not gonna say colleges are perfect little communities, gods no, but they are built in a far more human-centric way where it is generally easier to bond with fellow human beings and really think about what you want and believe in.

@BlueHooloovoo

Ай бұрын

It was that way. Then, social media came along and destroyed the whole bonding with other human beings.

@ErutaniaRose

Ай бұрын

I definitely think the force of social media was apart of it, but it was more so a tool to fulfill interaction and replace in human interaction as in person amenities and structures were torn down for freaking highways and 6 land stroads. 'Cause if it was just social media, that puts the blame on people for interacting online and having internet addictions instead of the legitimate systemic issues that caused people to become so isolated and go online to fill the void. @@BlueHooloovoo

The French knew what they were doing, way back when.

@OutlawMaxV

Ай бұрын

Comes with long history of fantastic philosophers I guess

@willjapheth23789

Ай бұрын

Discovering a way for young people to be annoying but accomplish nothing?

@jjmail1971

Ай бұрын

Even now. They know how to take to the streets when the regime oversteps.

@yourfriendlyinternetmeatshield

Ай бұрын

​@@willjapheth23789 guillotines accomplish not nothing.

@TooGumbica

Ай бұрын

Yeah, they were "keys of the state" (banks, police, rich...) revolting against monarchy. They couldnt vote them out, you can. And if you dont agree so much with the state ur in, change the state.

A true liberal applauds all the past protests and condemns all the current ones.

@17-MASY

Ай бұрын

Watch Second thought's "The Most dangerous thing in the western hemisphere"

@stpedro-ht9ng

Ай бұрын

@@17-MASYsecond thought is a tankie that supports babies being killed on October 7th. He said the babies were settlers so they deserved it. Really it’s Marxists that are most dangerous to the west. Not liberals

Human beings are doomed to repeat the same mistake over and over again.

@HalfJapMarine

Ай бұрын

Cycle breakers of trauma exist

@stifflermclovin

Ай бұрын

the three generations cycle

@KhanumBallZ

Ай бұрын

Count me in as a trauma cycle breaker

@armorclasshero2103

Ай бұрын

Only if the rich don't get eaten

I was just thinking "Wisecrack hasn't uploaded in a bit" on my walk this morning lmao perfect timing!

@abbasaliasgarrampurwala6758

Ай бұрын

I think your thoughts may turn true ngl 💀💀

It is neither culture war, nor civil war, and the terms 'anarchy' and 'revolution' are not mutually exclusive. Actual anarchism is genuinely revolutionary. This isn't culture war in the current use of that term, because movements for justice and equality are not a distraction to keep the masses fighting among themselves. This isn't civil war, because the opposition is a significantly smaller fringe element, with no established military, who are in many cases being supported and directed by another country.

@ixiahj

Ай бұрын

I'm pretty sure these protests are artificial. Multiple protests near identical to each other popped up almost all at the same time in multiple universities. That means someone's funding it.

I remember US supports EVERY SINGLE STUDENT PROTESTS OVERSEAS, every single one.....​And the more violence the most Chaos the more support from US. But i guess when the peaceful one come to US....​Attitude is literally a 180.

@trouserarmadillo8616

Ай бұрын

You just made that up

@simplethings3730

Ай бұрын

I think the US is only vaguely aware of protests overseas. The same way it is only vaguely aware of the plot in movies involving guns and fast cars.

It's 2024! Haven't we already learned this lesson before? God damn, violently cracking down on non-violent student protests has ALWAYS been the wrong move and a violation of rights.

@richardlyman2961

Ай бұрын

Tresspassing is a form of violence

@iExploder

Ай бұрын

@@richardlyman2961The students paid to be there.

@AlexsGoogleAccount

Ай бұрын

@@richardlyman2961 It literally isn't. Not in the United States at least. It is generally considered a nonviolent infraction punishable by a fine.

@gordonsulc8319

Ай бұрын

Either you've learned nothing from Mao's cultural revolution, or you have and are trying to bring it here. We will resist the tyranny of American Maoists.

@arandomlemon6707

Ай бұрын

​@@gordonsulc8319we have them, they're called evangelicals, they're armed and love voting against the common good. The protests are figuring out against the pro-war propaganda and fabrication of consent

Boomers when they were in college: *Protesting the Vietnam War and for civil rights* "We will not be silent!" Boomers when modern kids protest genocide: "Shut the fuck up! We weren't this willful during _our_ college years! You don't even know what you're talking about!!"

@bturtu405

Ай бұрын

Palastinians are the only people that going through gencide but keep still growing as a population Israel really sucks at this genocide thing

@dalekrenegade2596

Ай бұрын

@@bturtu405 Cope.

@vVAstrAVv

29 күн бұрын

I mean. Didnt anti vietnam protesters litterally take a dean hostage or something. They were in a way MORE radical than the ones today. Mostly cus the current generation is aware enough of history to avoid the use of the national guard. Cus when they get called in even passers by are gonna get domed

Not sure if Michael’s gonna read this, but here goes Hi Michael, funny you mentioned WashU. I’m from St. Louis and what I’ve heard the last week about the protests there are crazy. I’m not a student there, but it’s a shitshow. Students and others who joined the protest made a camp and campus police arrested over a 100 people including Jill stein. WashU then put up fencing. Doesn’t help that the campus is a private university. They also moved the protests to SLU and then outside of forest park. If you read this, dive into WashU and the protest last week. It’s nuts what happened.

@richardjulien3345

Ай бұрын

This city is full of braindead liberals

I mean in college your main purpose is learn, use your brain for ideas and expand your existence. Yes you might also have a job or other interests but your purpose is education and thinking. The rest of us only serve our capitalistic over lords and don't have time to work all day, take care of the kids, do the dishes, and somehow ponder the existential issues of society before bed. We should listen when colleges speak up

@sw0rdf1sh2326

Ай бұрын

That’s why we need unions and civic organizations. If there’s no space in society for those issues to be considered, or the time to do so, can we really call this “democracy” in a substantive sense?

@ShacklefordR

Ай бұрын

Sometimes it does seem like we live in a fiefdom minus the dysentery

@arc4859

Ай бұрын

College students today are children who haven’t experienced the real world

@RasmusVJS

Ай бұрын

@@sw0rdf1sh2326 The problem is less with their being few options for political engagement, and more that people don't have the time and energy for them because of the way modern society is structured.

@Ford_prefect_42

Ай бұрын

@@arc4859 what is the "real world"? If you're taking about jobs and paying rent, some of these legal adults have been doing that since they were 16. The real world is not supposed to be a 9-5 job and capitalist activities. It's supposed to be philosophy and humanity. They're more in the "real world" than you or I are

I've been reading a lot about these type of protests. Really glad for this video.

What I’m worried about is that this is gonna lead to even more defunding of education and continue to make it even more exclusive to the rich

@belmiris1371

Ай бұрын

That can only go so far. Right now the rich are brain draining the 'lower' classes by giving them high paying jobs helping to destroy the world. When that spigot dries up, some very smart people will have a lot of time on their hands and have no love for the elite. The elite, as always, get more inbred and worthless with every generation.

@RedPhoenix550

Ай бұрын

If this is what "education" brings then "education" should be replaced immediately.

@martinpat94

Ай бұрын

@@RedPhoenix550 what the execution of one’s constitutional rights?

@belmiris1371

Ай бұрын

@@RedPhoenix550 Yes. We should all be like you and gobble down whatever fecal matter mainstream news or fascist leaders feed us. Stay asleep, Obey. You're worthless.

@BloodSplatterArtist

Ай бұрын

An art history major from Columbia should be exclusive to the rich.

Today's Fact: In 2011, a man in Texas successfully fought a traffic ticket by arguing that the sign prohibiting parking was written in Comic Sans font, which he claimed was not a legally recognized font.

@HishamA.N_Comicbroe

Ай бұрын

That's cool. Thanks

@intricatic

Ай бұрын

I'm going to use that argument next time I get arrested for indecent exposure. It's so weirdly shaped that it's not a legally recognized, well... you know.

@snooopledinkeroo

Ай бұрын

That’s not even true tho. One google search shows you jus made that up

@snooopledinkeroo

Ай бұрын

Obvious AI/Bot account idk how you haven’t gotten banned yet

@Teethmafia

Ай бұрын

@@snooopledinkeroo that’s the real fact of today.

As a latino, I think the student movements in Latin America in the 70s and on, would be good cases yo analyze when talking about this yopic and this video

@peterthegreat996

Ай бұрын

See October of 1968…makes Kent state seem mild

@fernandohernandezcubillo1933

Ай бұрын

@@peterthegreat996 Tlatelolco is precisely what I had in mind

As German who doesn't speak French, your pronunciation hurts my soul. Be strong my French brothers. That being said, great video.

@kekikyavuz

Ай бұрын

I read this with the german accent

@princesscherry5217

Ай бұрын

9:45

@FeiFongWang

Ай бұрын

French is a waste of time

@LilFeralGangrel

Ай бұрын

French Canadian here and my ears are bleeding.

@alcoke1208

Ай бұрын

Dynamutee shloompa

What I don't get is why universities are treating this as a threat that needs so much violence. It seems they could just largely ignore it or even give in on some issues like divesting from weapon manufacturers. It seems that other protests have had FAR less violence against the protestors. The violence only seems like it is going to make the situation worse.

@LordLOC

Ай бұрын

Violence against the protestors? First off, these protestors are breaking either the school's policies and/or making it nearly impossible to even hold classes - or breaking actual laws in whatever city said school is in. Breaking the law is you know, breaking the law. These schools have given these students SO much time to do their thing, leave and protest again if they want but they continue to stay in their encampments and continue to break laws etc. Do you really think any school should let them keep doing what they are doing? And then let's say these colleges "agree to their terms" which is the most condescending zoomer thing ever btw lol then what? When these kids think they can go protest in the middle of Time's Square and disrupt a major city to make them, divest from Israel still? When will it stop? Protesting only goes so far, and can only do so much - especially when SO many people either disagree with them for protesting or think they are left wing wack jobs basically.

@BrianHockenmaier

Ай бұрын

In many cases they were breaking and entering and blocking off building access. Multiple graduations were cancelled. The only reason most of the response seems like an overreaction is because you are being fed a narrative that one side is being non-violent and the other side is being violent. By the way, this is exactly what the other political bubble is hearing, but in reverse. @wisecrack really dropped the ball here and just reinforced the narrative that matched their priors.

@deep_fried_analysis

Ай бұрын

Corrupt people within the huge administrative branch of universities, one that has been growing disproportionately for the last decades!

@ernimuja6991

Ай бұрын

Give an inch, concede a mile. If they don’t crack down this will embolden more protests.

@calebsmith7179

Ай бұрын

@@ernimuja6991 causing unnecessary violence will embolden more protests, they have failed.

When the only people in a society with free time are college students...

@calebsmith7179

Ай бұрын

If only the rest of society could get more free time too.

@yourfriendlyinternetmeatshield

Ай бұрын

And they really don't. That this can be said with any truth is evidence of the systems' intentional imperative and deliberate design to prevent anyone that could say anything against the status quo, from doing so. That our society, and governments' default desired position for its' citizenry, is already beneath the boot, "lucky" to even have any capacity to breathe.... Is that not a declaration of war issued by that which is considered "authority" against "We The People"?

@beleden1215

Ай бұрын

And the homeless

@koat1153

Ай бұрын

lol no, these kids were using their study periods and exam periods for this. Maybe some had JUST started summer. Any college kid who is trying to pass and get a job doesn’t have “free time”.

@sommerscott4299

Ай бұрын

Even then they have hardly any especially if they gotta work too 😅🙃everyone’s fucked we all deserve more rest and free time to live our life outside of our job imo

Class war. All previous college protests ended up with positive changes. That’s why higher ups are freaking out.

@kintsugi6235

Ай бұрын

Indeed 🔥

@CrazyMama75

Ай бұрын

Very true. Additionally, surveys have shown for a little while now that younger generations are shifting more to the political left, are more critical of assumed political and cultural "norms" and are more likely to be openly disenfranchised from capitalist lies. Which makes the youth especially a threat to the parties in power. They know that the baby boomers, their largest voter group, are not going to be around for much longer and that younger voters aren't replacing them at the same rate, meaning they'll try to secure their authority while they can still pretend to hide behind democracy.

@TenMillionYearProgram42

Ай бұрын

Nope. They like the protests VERY much, trust it.

@jerben9462

Ай бұрын

​@jonjonzz42 could you elaborate a little?

@gordonsulc8319

Ай бұрын

@@jerben9462 Who do you think is paying for it and why?

There is a lot that isn't talked about when we talk about Mai '68 in France that makes us realize that the slogan "demandez l'impossible" was actually what was happening for a lot of people in Paris. In mai '68, student and general strike created a fuel shortage in Paris and people in Paris were not able to refuel their car and started using en masse bikes to go around! A lot of people also started to create little vegetable and fruit gardens in front of their house by removing the bricks. A lot of people where not just actually demanding something, they were creating it and living it for one or two whole months and got a taste for a different was of living completely! It started with a student strike and it became so much more and got to the inhabitants in general.

As much as I hate France as a country but I love french and their enthusiasm to say fuck you to their country is great.

@peterthegreat996

Ай бұрын

If they ain’t on strike they are on vacation.

It’s a display of humanity that very few others have the courage to engage in.

Love the video ❤ If youre looking for ideas, i recently learned about depaving groups and joined a local org working to coordinate flash events designed to save benthic river mussels during droughts. Could you talk about meaningful organized grassroots engagement in staving of climate change, or as im starting to see it, climate transition.

i for one support you getting the miller light sponsorship. get your buzz on man!

@TenMillionYearProgram42

Ай бұрын

Pißwasser

Good job guys another great video I appreciate the take. This does remind me of a story I heard a few years ago in my hometown which is a college town in Oklahoma. There was apparently a local Occupy Movement encampment at a local park and police were dispatched to disperse that demonstration. From what I was told, when told to disperse an organizer responded with "You can't tell me what to do, you're not my real dad!" As the story goes this began a chant of " not my real dad! Not my real dad!"

Fun fact. In Slovenias capital Ljubljana they specifically build different faculties in different parts of the city so students wouldn't be together and therefore wouldn't have that much power

Its Literally Both...

Please know that the information you present regarding the arrest of Faculty members and their associated work is not information that I receive elsewhere on social media, and most of the info pushed to me has a decidedly more conservative angle to it. The information you present is important, please keep it up!

@deep_fried_analysis

Ай бұрын

+

Love that Sontag quote

"Charles de gaulle, the person, not the Airport" LOL

You're right, your french pronounciation made me smile (as my english pronounciation would probably make you smile), but that's mere form. I'm here for substance over form and you deliver. Thanks for thinking and helping us developing our thoughts on diverse and important topics.

The french protester's quote at 20:32 reminded me of something. Us communists have a quote here in Brazil, I dont know if it comes from somewhere specific. "Aqueles que conciliam uma pauta máxima por uma pauta mínima, na busca de aprovação de seus inimigos, terminam com pauta nenhuma". i.e. "Those who, in seeking the approval of their enemies, reconcile a maximum objective with a minimum objective, end up with no objective at all.". In reference to the way electoral politics forces radical policies to be chipped away until their radicalism is stripped off, and then get chipped away again until they offer no threat to the ruling class, and then get chipped away again until they do nothing at all.

@davidmandel8960

Ай бұрын

Uau tem comunista ainda no brasil? Se quiser ajudar, para de lacrar e doa pro rio grande do sul, q votar pra um partido decadente como o PCdoB n vai ajudar em nada kkkkk

Sorry but colloge is really not a place to meet people from different backgrounds. If anything it is one of of the biggest social bubbles out there. Only for those with the money, drive and skill to attend.

My boy deserves to get his buzz on to help with the anxiety

@~17:30, reminds me of something a US Army officer said during Vietnam, *"It became necessary to destroy the town to save it."*

I am so proud of these youth. For all the horrible talk about "this generation" or "that generation", it is in situations like this where we see them come together in a beautiful way. Look at our poverty, our debt, and our struggles not as a personal failure, but as a failure of the system to account for the nuances of diverse life and of a history that has been severely unfair to many.

@trouserarmadillo8616

Ай бұрын

Yet, instead of using their time and energy to fix things that really matter, like their own lives, the lives of the people they love/care for, the community they live in, they are attempting to apply an American/westernized view of the world to a conflict in the Middle East. Seems foolish. But I do understand the need to feel important/leave a mark on the world. Joining a movement like this is the same kind of thing that causes kids to join frats, gangs, and other groups.

My controversial say: People shouldn’t assault other people because of their race.

@dalekrenegade2596

Ай бұрын

Tell that to the counter protesters.

@talglikman7276

Ай бұрын

@@dalekrenegade2596 Tell that to the original protesters and Hamas

@dalekrenegade2596

Ай бұрын

@@talglikman7276 Oh look the boy who cried Hamas.

@talglikman7276

Ай бұрын

@@dalekrenegade2596 Oh look the boy who is stuck in his echo chamber.

@dalekrenegade2596

Ай бұрын

​@@talglikman7276 Dude you are just yelling at a mirror.

I recommend looking into Chile’s student protests in 2006. Not only were they impactful in the country’s politics at the time, but the leader of the movement is now the democratically elected president of Chile

We get will by, indeed! Another great video!

It used to be understood that passive resistance always comes with the possibility of arrests. In fact, that's kinda the point. Arrests evoke public interest, public sympathy, and public scrutiny. Without this element, it's just a bunch of kids camping in a park.

Free the US from AIPAC

@simplethings3730

Ай бұрын

But all that lovely money!!!

11:37 Appreciate the shoutout 🙂

So I am pretty much am on the side of the students here on the fact that they do own the campus... they pay a MASSIVE tuition... as along as they are not hating on other students a preventing them from learning... who have also paid a massive tuition. Also it needs to be understood that most of the messaging about the "Free Palestine" movement has lost all nuance about how Israel is a very small country that has the right to protect itself and fights against monsters... yet has become a monster in some cases in this conflict. This is opposed to the "Israel is ALWAYS wrong" mind set that is dominated in the movement.

Been requesting this one! Thanks For this! 🎉🎉🎉🎉

Early 2000-2010s culture wars were still, at least in the US, still VERY much a thing (I say this as someone who was much more involved with them then) In this era, though, it was the left who was more on the offensive. You had people challenging the narrative provided by those in power around the war on terror and the prism act. You had leftists concerned, rightly so in hindsight, about the right's moves to fascism and authoritarianism. You had groups like the Dixie Chicks getting a pushback for saying they disapproved of the actions of the president, and the American Idiot album by Green Day born out of a lot of the frustrations born of the right's control of the culture. The culture war didn't go quiet, the terms on which it was being fought, and which side held more power had just been different than it was in other eras you're discussing.

@Aging_Casually_Late_Gamer

Ай бұрын

The left went from being anti war, anti spying, anti corporate, and anti big pharma, to now being prowar/ interventionist, pro corporate, pro spying into everyone's lives for "saftey reasons", and generally licking the boots of the democracy establishment. It's crazy to see

Thank you for your videos, informative and engaging

Hyped kids seeking excitement.

Columbia President Minouche Shafik is a trademark liberal writes books on "what we owe each other" and talks a big game and then calls the cops on peaceful protesting students

@narutofan08nd12

Ай бұрын

What we owe each other, except when it affects my money or my employer's money

@ayoub8109

Ай бұрын

she has arabic origin and knows the history of palestine 75 years of injustice and ethnic cleansing but she sell her soul for money

@MrTakin00

Ай бұрын

You easily find out most org presidents, ceo, and politicans are virtue signalers and hypocrites

The french thing: Ya did pretty good, man.

Wisecrack is a modern day “revolutionary press”.

Mans sounding like Pepè le Pew..without out the rizz. Great video as always tho.

Dr. Steve Tamari was my professor of middle eastern history.... He's thankfully recovering.

It's difficult for me to judge this: On the one hand I fully support the criticism of the entanglement of universities within the war industry. On the other hand I just can't believe that the progressive, feminist and liberal Students either openly support or at least be silent about patriarchal, regressive religious zealots. I live in Germany and it's unbearable to see how Jewish students are under attack just because they happend to be Jewish and thus the enemy

@SockTaters

Ай бұрын

The right of the Palestinian people to life and dignity doesn't need to be earned. Backwards beliefs by some or most Palestinians doesn't justify anything done against them.

@llla8125

Ай бұрын

@@SockTaters this is not at all what the user was talking about

@SockTaters

Ай бұрын

@@llla8125 They criticize the anti-zionist protestors by saying, "on the other hand I just can't believe that the progressive, feminist and liberal Students either openly support or at least be silent about patriarchal, regressive religious zealots," as if that's relevant to the issue the protestors are protesting. This is just like people who responded to George Floyd's murder by saying, "he was no angel". Some people refuse to care about oppression unless there's a 'perfect victim', and that's wrong.

@Anverse-14

Ай бұрын

​@@llla8125no, that's exactly what the user is talking about. They're being conflicted about some student protestors being pro-hamas, and Palestinians who are actually being slaughtered like cows in Gaza They're being self-serving as hell.

@dalekrenegade2596

Ай бұрын

​@@Anverse-14 Spot on.

Just remember everyone, if there’s protest overseas USA politicians cheer them on and to not give up. Probably funds them as well, but any protest in the USA is then of the world for them.

@trouserarmadillo8616

Ай бұрын

What protests?

@MrTakin00

Ай бұрын

@@trouserarmadillo8616 Arab spring. Protestors got funded via the us funded endowment for democracy.

Raised fist for the campus protestors #vivalarevolucion #freepalestine ✊🏼✊🏼✊🏼🇵🇸🇵🇸

Greetings from Paris to California. I'm actually a teacher at La Sorbonne 🤣 students are currently protesting and trying to occupy the buildings like some of their grandparents did in 1968, except the police seems a bit more reactive now and anybody supporting them is labelled as somehow advocating for terrorism or something (French media are overall STILL terrible). Hope you guys&girls will go further and pave the way!

As an Anarchist i find the title card to be very amusing: why not both?

@corey8378

Ай бұрын

Seconded - but I feel like it’s left unclear what Wise means by anarchy and is instead just sticking to the chaos connotation rather than contending with anarchism in these protests (like the mutual aid which has sustained many of the encampments).

@Wookie.Boogie

Ай бұрын

@@corey8378 It is they way it's used in the thumbnail, as chaos. And the basic historic reference they used was France's May of '68, where anarchists and libertarian socialists were at the forefront of the production of theory he analyzes. I would also find it amusing like the OP but the level of disregard is infuriating.

@Jose-dh1xz

Ай бұрын

Awe...an uncreative person.

@user-sl6gn1ss8p

Ай бұрын

@@Wookie.Boogie I've noticed they've used "anarchy" with the connotation of "chaos" a bunch of times while discussing political topics, in different videos, and don't remember it being used in the anarchist sense. It really is especially weird on this one though.

@TreesPlease42

Ай бұрын

Def out of touch, anarchy is liberty, where the systems we rely on are suited to meet our needs

Aka. No one likes or trusts old people to look after the interests of others.

The look of impending annihilation you mention reminds me of the way Winston describes his surroundings in 1984

Maybe you could pretend to be non bias.

I admire the word choices (and lack of certain words) kudos!

Today's "Israel" isn't the same Israel from the Bible.... Good job keep up the heat!

"We get, We buy". 🤣🤣

MMMM... importing the Intifada to American soil may not be the best thing. also the thought that if only there wasn't a jewish state from the river to the sea all of the world's problems will be solved is highly anti-semitic.

@dalekrenegade2596

Ай бұрын

Sorry bud, fighting for liberation from Israel is not anti-Semitic no matter how much you guys dishonestly twist the message.

@DrizzyB

Ай бұрын

Bro being against the bombing of innocent people is not antisemetic. It's quite literally just being against the bombing of innocent people. Nobody wants anything bad to happen to any Israelis, because nobody deserves to be bombed or anything

@dalekrenegade2596

Ай бұрын

@@DrizzyB It is extremely difficult to feel any sympathy towards the Israelis at this point though.

how productive is adding to the gdp? gdp don't do shit for us. i'm free, living on the dole, you know. kick me off, s'pose they will in due course. i think i still don't wanna toil to make some bigshot richer. i'd rather help someone for free and hope someone'll 'member me. that's community. productive? maybe. substantive is better

What I see is a sure and steady movement towards national socialism. The Germans lost the economic and military war, but won the ideological war. May 68 was definitively a moment and it's not a coincidence that the hero of the war was the one that had to flee again from the same force he had defeated previously and a lot of those intellectuals were relatively close supporters of Vichy France. It's the start of adults never growing up and assuming responsibility and rejecting the structure and institutions that made them, so it's the start of a low process of degradation of liberalism and modernity with it's "rigid patriarchal structure" and also lead to identity politics and group think, which allows a group to gang up to discriminate against another group, especially when seen as a liberal/conservative. Of course being against liberalism was part of the national socialist program, just as group politics was and of course the lack of responsibility and unrealism was fundamental to it as well. So you get the ironic thing that you get a bunch of uneducated people with no structure and ability to self-correct, fighting to make happen something they claim to hate, out of ignorance. The rise of corporations and the death of mom and pop capitalism is also part of it. It's all about avoiding responsibility by socializing it. It's what May 68 was about and it worked real well. Now we simply have gone further and the issue is going forward. Terrorist organizations like the PLO are the ideological heir of the third reich. Through breeding program and migration, as well as the better communication and propaganda that something like the internet allows, they can influence directly the harvest of what May 68 seeded. People rediscover something that is genuine to how they already think and in response, you get some other groups, far right groups that appear as well as a resurgence of nationalism everywhere in the world and more totalitarian attitudes (which is different than authoritarian. People are totalitarians, but not authoritarians, just like the nazi were. It a thing people miss, but the rank and file were quite independent, they simply had to follow the ideology or the Kantian deontology of the party. They did not "follow orders" like a liberal would, it's more than that and less than that. You have to bellyfeel totalitarianism, and it won't show as authority) So the real issue in those protest as far as I can tell is the last bit that is missing, which is the acceptance that violence is a valid way to achieve political goals and gain power over others. That's the last taboo, the pang of May 68 that is falling off before our eyes and polls show people are ready for it and asking for it, so it's an open door really, just like May 68 was. It's like a knife cutting through butter, but always in the same direction which can't be not seen any longer. Nazism is the winner, the third way out of liberalism and that is what people are striving for, just under some other names.

*takes your special shout out and dries my Gore 2000 tears with it*

Protesting the Iraq war (and later tuition fees) has left me with mixed feelings about student protests. Especially beyond the initial surge. I was against a pointless war but didn't like eventually marching alongside angry old Tankies waving USSR flags (half my family fled Stalin after all) or Islamists calling for death to all infidels. No you cannot judge a protest by its worst minority of members, but I saw a lot of people get a little too into that side of things to easily give my full support.

@Anverse-14

Ай бұрын

So you're just a coward? Your moral beliefs is defined by others behaviour rather than yourself?

@chrischin_94

Ай бұрын

​@@Anverse-14Guilt by association. I wouldn't wanna be seen with deplorables either

I am typically a huge fan of this channel’s work and even found the analysis of college protest to be quite interesting. However I think it is incredibly dangerous to pretend that the current protest fit neatly with the paradigm of past protests. In no past protest has the persecution of a minority been so prevalent. As a visibly Jewish Columbia student I was threatened and told I was not welcome at the university or even in America. Even students not at all tied to the Zionist movement have been threatened simply for wearing kippas. These protest cannot be analyzed with ambivalence to “the Jewish question”.

@dropyourself

Ай бұрын

I thought it was illegal to lie on the Internet. You know if only someone could record this interaction because the only "anti-semitism" mainstream media is able to show is a single Zionists not being let into an encampment. These students have been disciplined in their messaging and explicitly against anti-semitism so all you can do is make stuff up. Also are you calling all of the Jewish supporters anti-semitic?

@brady9592

Ай бұрын

Lots of Jewish students are an active part in organizing these protests, including at Colombia, and are in no way unwelcome. This is your only comment on here, but granting you’re a real person and commenting in good faith, what happened to you is an edge case and should be outright condemned. If you want to be part of protest, you should absolutely be welcomed and raise issues like being threatened to leadership/admin. By all serious accounts, these protests have been by and large peaceful, disciplined, conducted with support from faculty and with a sensitivity to not letting anti-semitism seep into a protest centered on the cessation of unjust killing/destruction.

Peaceful protest feels like admission that the electoral process can be wrong or slow so for serious issues like the Vietnam war it makes sense that you can’t expect people to 4 years for their side to get power. If you don’t give people some chance of peaceful protest than you are forcing violent protest. No two people protest for the same reason and cops can escalate of course but it feels like protesters today don’t accept any consequences. Like they can get permission to protest in a certain area and then start marching because their cause is worth it. Random instigators can start throwing rocks at police which is terrible but some think the cops should ignore it because trying to arrest a threat might break up the good protesters. When people chained themselves to trees they expected to be arrested and sued by loggers for lost profits. There was inherent risk in any important protest. I don’t want kids betting maced for no reason but I never understood how long a worthwhile protest could go on for even if I agree with it. Campuses might look bad cracking down on peaceful protesters. But protesters think protesting means demanding boards fire employees for allowing guests and not apologizing for not saying they were wrong. Protesting the Vietnam was a simpler idea seemed to be the right decision. But protesting to make a company not work with Israel or invite pro Israel guests? My boss can’t fire me for political views but college protesters can hold a business hostage until they conform? Most of these protesters don’t deserve to be taken seriously even if they are sincere. They gave money to these colleges without caring where it went. Except for blocking highways we were never going to agree on a limit for protests. But we saw liberals let their side take a city and conservatives took over the capitol. Protest lost all meaning after that.

@dalekrenegade2596

Ай бұрын

Translation: How dare these students protests their schools investing in war crimes.

In Colombia there was a rather curious phenomenon brought forth by students called "la séptima papeleta" (the seventh ballot) which basically paved the way for the 1991 constitution which is heralded as one of the best and most comprehensive in the continent so the fear of these rawdy children seeking change is nothing new and something the establishment will diligently seek to suppress

You've got to take into account how people get their news nowadays. Tiktok and other Headline Social media platofrms. And with more and more government influence on both popular news broadcasters and the said platforms it can easily create a climate that influences the thoughts and beliefs of many. You have to take into account, whos the ones profiting from civil unrest and why?

@AJX-2

19 сағат бұрын

cool it with the antisemitism

it seems like there is some hypocrisy going on with WHO can protest, it is generally easier to rationalize and justify a cause you beleive in, for exapmle a lot of people say the disruption is justified becaue the cause is just. well a lot of peole thing the cause is just, a lot of people dont, once you start applying a moral litmus test to who should and shouldnt be able to use a certain means to get a certain end. then the :common community" and the coming together of disperate people becomes more difficult. if the same set of rules only applies to your side. dont be suprised when thoes who disaree with you use your tactics against you.

Anybody else here a fan of Phil Ochs? I was immediately reminded of the lyrics of a few of his protest songs that were written and performed during the 60s. If you haven't heard of him, give his stuff a listen.

Neither. They're simply protests. College students did the same thing during vietnam and apartheid. Kids don't want their colleges funding Israel. Maybe try genuinely interacting with those you disagree with to see why they do the things they do.

Privileged crybullying

@dalekrenegade2596

Ай бұрын

Yep Zionists are the worst.

Anarchy or revolution is a stupid question. A revolution can be anarchiac, if it’s goal is to get rid of the centralized governemnt instead of replacing it. I hate when anarchy is used as a synonim for chaos. People don’t understand the meaning of words. Chaos scientifically is just basically something that is too complex for us to predict.

@umbralupus6488

Ай бұрын

Any cursory look at what Anarchism is shows that it isn't about chaos. Like, one of the more famous anarchist books is "Mutual Aid, a factor of Evolution". One of the more widespread contemporary anarchist organizations is Food, not Bombs. People shouldn't fall for laughably bad 1st red scare propaganda so easily.

My bus was late. I started a revolution. I asked who was with me. I was told to sit down. I did. But with great hesitation.

It's called Cask Ale. ""Warm Beer" is unacceptable and I demand an apology.

I support free speech - I don’t agree with most of the campus protesters and I frankly don’t know fully where I stand on the Israel/Gaza argument because it’s so much bigger than me. BUT - I know I don’t support law breaking and societal disruption to promote a message. I also don’t support police brutality and unnecessary crackdowns when laws are broken that don’t necessitate that level of response. Palestinians and Israelis deserve to live in peace and dignity together.

@AlexsGoogleAccount

Ай бұрын

Both Hamas and Israel's governments are bad and have done heart-wrenching and unforgivable things. But the humanitarian crisis is with the Palestinians. More than 34,000 have been killed, with more than 70,000 injured. Nearly all of them have been displaced, 45% of all of their infrastructure (including churches, schools, and hospitals) has been destroyed, and they are currently experiencing a famine. Most are left without food, drinkable water, or other important resources and Israel has made it very hard for humanitarian organizations to provide assistance to them (murdering over 300 aide workers including over 170 United Nations workers and workers for Doctors without Borders and American Red Cross) If you print out Wikipedia's article on War crimes during the Israel-Hamas conflict, you'll see 6 pages of war-crimes by Hamas and 21 pages of war-crimes by Israel. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_in_the_Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war Israel has power and resources and has been occupying the region for years. While the death toll against Israel is still tragic (over 1400) and should be condemned, Israel has been killing 25 Palestinians for every Israeli killed, with 90+% of them being civilians, at least 70% consisting of women and children, and at least 35% consisting of children. Over 2% of Palestinian children have died and Israel is still killing around 250 Palestinians every day with no end in sight. In the midst of this death toll, protestors are calling the United States to stop funding Israel and providing them with the weapons they use to slaughter Palestinians. And they're calling on Universities to divest from companies such as Boeing that builds the bombs that we sell to Israel. They don't like that their tax dollars and tuition dollars are being used to facilitate Israel in what can be strongly argued to be a genocide against Palestinians in the Gaza Strip.

@baileyduggan3659

Ай бұрын

As someone who was on campus during the protests at UT, the only disruptions caused were by the state troopers who were called in. They blocked the main road to disrupt the protest, but also disrupted all movement North/South on campus. Note:there was no illegal activity occurring other than the protest existing. A world where you need permission to protest is a strange one. In follow up protests it was also police and state troopers who disrupted things. They would also at random grab people and arrest them, but leave others.

@austinpeterson6203

Ай бұрын

@@baileyduggan3659 hate to break it to you but those protests were immediately deemed “unlawful” based on both state and university statements and laws. I’m not saying I agree with that, people should have the right to lawful assembly to protest. But you can’t claim the police and troopers called in started it when the protest originated unlawfully…giving police the responsibility to disband the unlawful assembly. Very misleading and now I’m less supportive of protestors who claim the police start things - you intentionally misrepresented what happened with an easily proven fact. You can’t knowingly break laws that have real consequences and then claim you’re a victim to the consequences of your actions. It doesn’t justify a bad law though, and I agree the laws should be changed.

@baileyduggan3659

Ай бұрын

@@austinpeterson6203 note how I said nothing illegal was occurring other than the protest itself. I acknowledged the protest being illegal, but also pointed out how stupid it is to have to have permission. I didn't misrepresent anything and only stared my observations having to walk up and down campus that day.

@austinpeterson6203

Ай бұрын

@@baileyduggan3659 “the only disruptions were by the state troopers who were called in” Your words exactly. You implicitly misrepresented law enforcement tasked with breaking up an unlawful assembly. A better strategy would be to highlight the inequity and authoritative actions of UT and Texas that put protestors and law enforcement on an inevitable collision path. Not only was your right to protest suppressed but your actions forced law enforcement to break up the unlawful assembly. Don’t blame law enforcement, you NEED the working class INCLUDING law enforcement to enact change against the oligarchy.

this obviously takes a pro-protest approach and generally ignores philosophers who might have been opposed to the '68 protests, namely Roger Scruton, who deplored the '68 protests and lamented the destruction of public property and the a-historicity of the people involved. There are some similar things going on here - what I have found shocking most of all is the justification of the Oct 7 attacks or clear denial that they even happened. Also, you mentioned that students don't want "their tuition money" used to fund a war, it should be noted that generally, tuition money is used for the cost of the student's upkeep (room and board) and education (yes, education) and not to fund the war. Rather, the universities use endowment money instead for investment purposes to help bridge the operational cost of running the university. Additionally problematic is the disruption of education classes being cancelled, or going on line) and the cancellation of commencement ceremonies (which is extremely lamentable when one considers that the number of protesters, is exceedingly small when compared to the overall number of students attending these universities. Hence, what you hav here is a tyranny of the minority.

@musicamaxima

Ай бұрын

Didn’t scruton get sacked for peddling conspiracy theories about George soros? What a hero.

@jomakreyes

Ай бұрын

October 7? Nakba. Incidentally, Nakba Day is tomorrow.

Deja vu? I've just been in this place before Its like I'm Running in the 90s

Not an American just pushing his way past the queue forgetting anyone else exists!!? Would never believe it 😜

Even though, I support Israel's right to exist as an independent country, the way protests have been handled by universities is terrible.

As a non-american I can't understand how anyone can support that genocide or see any gray in what happened. Especially anyone that supported ukraine. The difference in reactions to both evends from sometimes the same individuals looks delusional to me.

@manolgeorgiev9664

Ай бұрын

The US isn't even the worst offender, just the most widely reported on.

Hey man! What kind of jazz do you like?

The bus is always late and we are all left waiting.