Camera test: Sony a6700 vs Samsung Galaxy S10e

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As with any combat robot, safety is the most important consideration. For this test, I set up a wide wooden barrier between me and the robot, cutting off my side of the room completely.
A simple camera test, featuring my 1lb combat robot "Cheesecake". I've been filming all my tournaments using my phone (Samsung Galaxy S10e), and recording in 4K resolution at 60 fps so I can zoom in in my editor without losing resolution (rendering at 1920x1080). However, there was no way to add a polarizing filter to my Galaxy, so glare was a recurring issue. With the Sony a6700, I can record 4K 60fps, with a polarizing filter to cut out the glare, but the filter reduces the light coming in, which means I need to play around with my settings a bit, including slowing down the shutter speed, and increasing the ISO. I'm already at the widest aperture for this lens, so that can't be changed to let in more light.

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  • @alexsalchemy
    @alexsalchemy4 ай бұрын

    If you'd like to learn more about camera settings, you can watch this video which helped me immensely: kzread.info/dash/bejne/iGuumaR6isfaYrA.html

  • @MinecrafterPiano
    @MinecrafterPiano4 ай бұрын

    Can definitely see more detail on the carbon fiber with the Sony a6700 when the filter is off (compared to the S10e). Even with the filter on, it seems comparable to the S10e in that regard. As for the rest, It seems like the a6700's contrast is slightly better, but my eyes are too poor to tell. Excited about the new equipment!

  • @alexsalchemy

    @alexsalchemy

    4 ай бұрын

    Yeah, it's not really a "fair" test because of the filter on the a6700, but as long as this new camera looks at least as good with the filter installed, that's all I can hope for because it cuts out so much glare. The Galaxy S10 cheats a bit by opening up the shutter for longer than it realistically should, resulting in a lot of motion blur... but maybe that's just what it takes in such poor lighting.

  • @jaekamei
    @jaekamei4 ай бұрын

    I much prefer watching the Sony.

  • @luisbetancourt-dp7hh

    @luisbetancourt-dp7hh

    4 ай бұрын

    Being fair isn't the Sony like a lot more expensive?

  • @jaekamei

    @jaekamei

    4 ай бұрын

    @@luisbetancourt-dp7hh Sure but he has it and I'd like to see it be used.

  • @luisbetancourt-dp7hh

    @luisbetancourt-dp7hh

    4 ай бұрын

    @@jaekamei yes yes, I got the video as a review comparation I absolutely agree with you

  • @alexsalchemy

    @alexsalchemy

    4 ай бұрын

    Honestly, it's not just the image quality, it's also the fact that it can mount a polarizing filter, and the fact that it can record a file type that my video editor doesn't hate, haha. Cell phone videos are pretty good, but I'm learning there are reasons why movies aren't shot on cell phones. Too bad, it's really convenient.

  • @jaekamei

    @jaekamei

    4 ай бұрын

    💯

  • @JustCuzRobotics
    @JustCuzRobotics4 ай бұрын

    Woah the glare things is cool, I have a fixed lens camera but need to look into a glare corrective lens cover thing

  • @GiGA-BOB

    @GiGA-BOB

    4 ай бұрын

    E

  • @emovard3n
    @emovard3n4 ай бұрын

    I still use S10e, love it, perfect phone)

  • @LetsChat
    @LetsChat4 ай бұрын

    1. Did you upload at 1080p or am I just early? 2. Polarized filter for the *win*. 3. That's about it.

  • @alexsalchemy

    @alexsalchemy

    4 ай бұрын

    Yes, I actually record in 4K but upload in 1080p. This is so I can zoom in in my editing software while still having 1080p video. I do this a lot to frame the shot and zoom in on slow motion hits.

  • @freakyjason477
    @freakyjason4774 ай бұрын

    In this case the glare also adds contrast between Cheesecake and the floor. The S10e seems less "pastel". Although the Sony might have the better shutter speed and be more crisp, the S10e is easier on the eyes. Maybe use both? The S10e for general footage and the Sony for the slo-mo shots?

  • @alexsalchemy

    @alexsalchemy

    4 ай бұрын

    I plan to use both, at least initially. We'll see whose footage wins!

  • @grantcatdone3417
    @grantcatdone34174 ай бұрын

    I've just recently gotten into antweights with a horizontal in no small part to watching cheesecake in action. We might actually get to fight at this upcoming Sunday's event! Hopefully I get off the wait-list but I'll be there with my beetle regardless.

  • @Termini_Man
    @Termini_Man4 ай бұрын

    Nice ESC jingle!

  • @bami2
    @bami24 ай бұрын

    You can "fix" the vibration caused by the weapon by using something like a quadcopter/drone prop balancer (basically two level straight bars, the weapon goes on a solid axle with each end on the bar and then just keep rotating it and meticulously shave off bits until it doesn't has a point it wants to turn to) until it is perfectly balanced, but a couple of good hits will probably undo that so I'm not sure if it's worth the effort if it's just a tiny bit unbalanced.

  • @motzog
    @motzog4 ай бұрын

    the cake of cheese.

  • @KevTyGaming
    @KevTyGaming4 ай бұрын

    Were you just standing in the room during this test? If so, that’s pretty dangerous. I know Cheesecake is pretty darn reliable, but if something went wrong while the weapon was active, you’d be looking at some serious danger. Safety is a huge problem for new builders, and while I’m sure you took precautions, the viewers don’t know that, and newcomers might spin up a kitbot outside a test box thinking it’s okay because they saw it from an experienced builder like you. I don’t mean to be a buzzkill, but instilling safety practices into people early is important, and you’ve got a lot of people who watch the channel that have never built a bot before

  • @alexsalchemy

    @alexsalchemy

    4 ай бұрын

    To be clear, I was standing behind a wide wooden barrier below the frame of the camera, cutting off that entire side of the room. Probably should have made that more clear in the video. Added it to the start of the description.

  • @starzainia
    @starzainia4 ай бұрын

    Wuddya know, I used to own an S10e, the camera was pretty darn good until the phone crapped out on me one night. Now I have a Motorola Edge (2022) and it's done the job swellingly.

  • @ConstantlyDamaged
    @ConstantlyDamaged4 ай бұрын

    I like the reduced glare on the Sony.

  • @isiskline469
    @isiskline4694 ай бұрын

    Cheesecake has lights? (I mean it makes sense but I've never seen them)

  • @skepular
    @skepular3 ай бұрын

    Cheesecake is my parasocial father. This is the new normal.

  • @OpticalOpal
    @OpticalOpal4 ай бұрын

    I did not like when the polarized filter was removing all the glare. it loses contrast and looks almost fake. maybe leave like 20% glare in so it looks a bit more natural?

  • @JustCuzRobotics
    @JustCuzRobotics4 ай бұрын

    FYI for motion being filmed its generally advised to film at a shutter speed twice the frame rate so 1/120 or 1/125 for 60fps

  • @alexsalchemy

    @alexsalchemy

    4 ай бұрын

    Yep, I actually tried 1/125 before this test, but the image was really dark, and the aperture and ISO were about as far as I could reasonably bump them. Stupid polarizing filter. I wondered what my phone was doing to get such a bright image with such little noise, aside from the advantage of not having filter in front of it. By looking at the motion blur frame by frame, I determined that my phone's shutter speed is likely 1/60 (at least in this lighting), since there is no gap between each successive motion blur from one frame to the next. Despite how poor this practice is for shutter speed at a given frame rate, its footage still looks okay, so I figured setting my Sony camera to 1/80 was a reasonable sacrifice to let in more light. I might have to fiddle with this on the day of each tournament, but if it means cutting out the glare on the side of the arena, it's probably worth it.

  • @alexsalchemy

    @alexsalchemy

    4 ай бұрын

    Yep, checked some of my old tournament videos, and the motion blur doesn't have any gaps from one frame to the next, which indicates that my phone's shutter speed is likely 1/60. Little tricks like these make phones seem better than they are, although it's worked for me so far on this channel, so maybe that's actually the right approach to getting a nice bright image, we'll see.

  • @motzog
    @motzog3 ай бұрын

    I really took inspiration from cheesecake to build my own robot, it turned out as a viper kit named Condor!

  • @alexsalchemy

    @alexsalchemy

    3 ай бұрын

    That's awesome! Maybe we'll get to fight sometime!

  • @motzog

    @motzog

    3 ай бұрын

    @@alexsalchemy unlikely, I'm in the UK, but it is in some ways possible! You would probably win though

  • @harpintn
    @harpintn2 ай бұрын

    What it comes down to with me is which camera shows the color properly. By looking at the wooden stairs I am thinking it is the Sony The higher frame rate of the Sony also made for smoother movements.

  • @josiahamaze
    @josiahamaze4 ай бұрын

    My eyes prefer samsung and my theory is I'm used to seeing videos processed by phone nowadays. Very good info as I'm about to buy a new phone and was thinking of buying a dslr as well

  • @alexsalchemy

    @alexsalchemy

    4 ай бұрын

    The Samsung is cheating in a couple of ways: it doesn't have a polarizing filter which blocks some of the precious light, and it's using a slower shutter speed to pull in even more light. I could match the shutter speed on my new camera, but I kind of want that crisp slow-mo, so I'm seeing just how dark of an image I can tolerate.

  • @Magiccc
    @Magiccc4 ай бұрын

    Unrelated to the cameras, how does one get started entertaining robot combat events as well as constructing even just these smaller bots? It's been a dream of mine for years

  • @alexsalchemy

    @alexsalchemy

    4 ай бұрын

    Team Witch Doctor has a great playlist about how to build your first robot, which helped me a lot, linked below. As for hosting tournaments, I've never done it, but most people create events through RobotCombatEvents.com. kzread.info/head/PL81yBUG7TPX3rRRStHBGLX0Rr2aaBqfFO&si=hNKhKwJ-lZqjNqbK

  • @Magiccc

    @Magiccc

    4 ай бұрын

    @@alexsalchemy thank you so much!

  • @Crftbt
    @Crftbt4 ай бұрын

    Is cheesecake running betaflight?

  • @playcoollah356
    @playcoollah3564 ай бұрын

    make the blade more balanced it might help

  • @giu5357
    @giu53574 ай бұрын

    what lens is also important

  • @alexsalchemy

    @alexsalchemy

    4 ай бұрын

    I'm using the included kit lens from Sony (16-50mm, which becomes 24-75mm on this APS-C camera). People like to trash the kit lens, but it's been very good to me. I think I'd get rather diminishing returns if I were to upgrade.

  • @giu5357

    @giu5357

    4 ай бұрын

    @@alexsalchemy ho yeah for kit lenses sony as pretty good ones

  • @basvermeer4209
    @basvermeer42094 ай бұрын

    The sony is much better in capturing material and light detail. Bigger sensor = more detail

  • @josiahamaze
    @josiahamaze4 ай бұрын

    1:35

  • @josiahamaze

    @josiahamaze

    4 ай бұрын

    Can you use a counter weight?

  • @ConstantlyDamaged

    @ConstantlyDamaged

    4 ай бұрын

    @@josiahamazeEverything costs weight and with combat robots, weight is always expensive.

  • @13ON3S
    @13ON3S4 ай бұрын

    Sony for sure

  • @yofacex1310
    @yofacex13104 ай бұрын

    What did you major in college to get into this?

  • @miraclo3

    @miraclo3

    4 ай бұрын

    I know you're not asking me but you definitely don't need a college education to get into combat robots. KZread has tons of resources if you want to learn starting off with a kit bot or progress your way into designing your own custom bots in CAD. It's not about showcasing what you know, It's about figuring out what you don't.

  • @alexsalchemy

    @alexsalchemy

    4 ай бұрын

    Well, I majored in mechanical engineering, but that's cheating, and you don't need to be a mechanical engineer to build a good combat robot. This playlist from Team Witchdoctor was very helpful to help narrow down the scope of what I should do for my robot: kzread.info/dash/bejne/gZ91t5qhgsrYp7Q.html

  • @yofacex1310

    @yofacex1310

    4 ай бұрын

    Thanks. I am interested in going to college for mechanical engineering, and was wondering if that’s what you did. I just don’t know if I can handle the math though. I’d say I’m probably just average at math, which is the main thing I’m worried about.

  • @alexsalchemy

    @alexsalchemy

    4 ай бұрын

    @@yofacex1310 - Math is certainly an important part of it. Mechanical engineering is a big area of study though, and it really depends what you want to do for your career. I work in new product development, making tools and electronics for consumers, but I could have also worked on medical devices, cars, HVAC design, manufacturing quality, there's a lot out there.

  • @yofacex1310

    @yofacex1310

    4 ай бұрын

    ⁠@@alexsalchemyA big reason I’m interested in mechanical engineering is I want to be able to make cool things, but where I live most of it will be cars. I don’t really have much interest in cars, and I’m not super into the idea of machine tool stuff, but I want to be able to build stuff on my own, and because it’s so broad I think it gives me a choice on what I wanna do with it.

  • @sarimproperties.12
    @sarimproperties.124 ай бұрын

    Day 3 of trying to get pinned😎

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