“Haven’t gotten as much progress over the last few weeks as expected”... literally describes every single one of my projects ever 😂

This channel is truly incredible. Learned how to tune my FD thanks to your tuning courses.

@hpa101

3 жыл бұрын

That's awesome man! Appreciate the comment and support too. Looking forward to adding more and more rotary content as you can for you guys in too as you will have see 😁 - Taz.

@BjornFSE

3 жыл бұрын

@@hpa101Would love to see an Advanced tuning course in the future from you guys, One that really goes in depth with Setting up Knock and strategies and other little things that were touched on in the Practical Tuning courses. I'd definitely look forward to some real in depth advanced tuning material

Building a car is one thing, making it easy to work on service and check is another level and those items make an ordinary build into something really quite special, well done keep up the good work 👍

@hpa101

3 жыл бұрын

100%, it all takes time and sometimes experience on the things you're happy to make compromises on and those you're not. We should get Andre to have a wee chat about this one day as I had an interesting conversation about this with him in regards to his DOCILE drag car and the things he learnt from that for the latter DS9 build when it came to servicing - Taz.

Setting up the degree wheel and Dial indicators to fully graph these unknown cams would be a good training video

It'll be good to see a comparison of the torque curve with each set of cams, even though we know what to expect it's always interesting to see the actual results, especially how the peak power vs powerband tradeoff goes. Also interested to see the actual difference in turbo spool - though I guess that might also be affected by the change in turbine housing, even if the advertised A/R is the same

@hpa101

3 жыл бұрын

Rest assured we will reveal all the data as soon as we hit the dyno again - Andre

Wish you all the best! Thanks for the content 👌

Love to see what other people are doing, this is a great series. Next time the head is off, pop a set of exhaust valves in that are 15-20 thou bigger, just to restore valve seat hight.

Awesome build and Content. We have added to our playlist for all the watch. Thanks for installing Kelford Cams

@hpa101

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the awesome product team. Always a pleasure - Taz.

I really love these videos. Vehicle development is something not well covered. Building a car is relatively straightforward, building one that is reliable and fast is the hard and interesting bit. Keep it up!

woop woop 🙌🏼 Love these videos, loving this SR86 Progress, Keep it coming

@hpa101

3 жыл бұрын

Thank Bjørn! Still lots of little things left but getting there - Taz.

Always learning something, thanks😃

good job jimmy👌

You are brilliant!

Great explanation re the shims vs retainers Andre

@hpa101

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

I love SR stuff

I have had exactly the same experience with my SR20VET E36. The ignition cut from the samsonas popped a shim while away from home on the 5th lap of my first session🤣

@hpa101

3 жыл бұрын

Yes you definitely don't want to be using an ignition cut for gear shifting! We had that part dialled but unfortunately had overlooked the rpm limiter 😩- Andre

And another cool, informative video - with all you chaps are doing, you're actually making great progress! Some of the 'little' jobs can end up taking massive amounts of time, like the plumbing changes that would need frequent checking for clearances, alignments, etc. When you were discussing the shim and cap heights still being a problem, you segwayed into it getting new camshafts. Did you consider getting them ground with a slightly smaller base circle? While it's not generally a good idea, especially with poorly done 'reground' products out there and the problem with hydraulic lifters running out of 'take up', it should have been fine with your mild camshafts and it would restore the clearance you needed for the shims and caps? Normally, the base circle is the 'fixed' part and all the adjustment, valve length, retainer heights, valve seat to retainer groove, etc, are all dependent on that?

Nice lil R34 behind you

Love your vids! I recommend to go smaler with the Turbo. I had a GTX3076r gen2 and a GTX3071r gen2 on my 3sgt, even the 3071r had me too much lag... But i guess the 3071r for the race track it would be fine with a good gearbox ratio

@hpa101

3 жыл бұрын

Yes luckily we can play around with the gearbox a little to help compensate for that. There is a video somewhere on the reasoning around the turbo choice for the SR, I think this one: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZYFoz7uClNnKerA.html So many videos and topics covered on it all now it's tricky to keep track of things - Taz.

Could you show the dyno pulls vs actual logged engine ve for both vvl on and vvl off for the p12 cams vs p11 cams. You might be very surprised at the results. I'm willing to share my testing with you our setup is very similar.

@hpa101

3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately we haven't run the P11 cams so don't have any data on them. Our comparison will be the P12 to the Kelford 184-ST, but we'll share what we find for sure - Andre

@rocketscienceracing

3 жыл бұрын

@@hpa101 on another note the rocker rods can come out of the front of the head. They slide through the front small freeze plugs. Just tap them out and replace or reseal with silicone when done.

You and that damn bridge, eh Andre.... lol... That marshal must have gotten quite a fright, heh

@hpa101

3 жыл бұрын

The good news is I've managed to get across the bridge at least 40-50 times since that incident with no issues. I hope I've put that behind me! - Andre

@steve87uk

3 жыл бұрын

@@hpa101 Harder to hit when it's behind you ;)

Love the unlimited and detailed information. Have you got any more info on the ducting and packaging to the oil and gearbox coolers? Ducting to the front brakes has been tucked in there as well somehow which is super impressive!

Intresting to know what other types of VE cams you are referring to as far as I was aware you have :- P11 20VE N15 16VE N15 16VE N1 P12 20VE 20v T30 20VET which doesn't use the exhaust High lobe. I didn't know there were variances in the chassis themselves aside from the N15 ones.. brill video again always intresting as per usual.

@brendanparker5551

3 жыл бұрын

T30 SR20VET camshafts do have a high lobe, Id love to give Andre a T30 Ex cam to try too

@zappy7393

3 жыл бұрын

@@brendanparker5551 You get around wherever there are VE engine dont you mate...lol

@brendanparker5551

3 жыл бұрын

@@zappy7393 I am involved in a lot of builds now ;) Even just briefly haha

@raceworx

3 жыл бұрын

@@brendanparker5551 sorry I wrote that badly. I mean they don't utilise it for some strange reason. The rockers are useful for of you want to delete VVL though I guess

@brendanparker5551

3 жыл бұрын

@@raceworx its because they fitted a gt2560s to the car, the high lobe would have caused more heat as it lacks top end as it is

Really good and interesting videos of you guys! Did you think about using a turbo sock to prevent the engine bay from the heat of the turbo? What would be pros and cons of it? Cheers from Switzerland.

Thank you so much for pointing out cam overlapping on turbo application. I've been trying very to find what to look for when selecting cams. Which one of your courses goes through that information?

@hpa101

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it mate. It isn't actually in a course but instead a members only webinar here might help you out: www.hpacademy.com/previous-webinars/168-understanding-camshaft-specifications/ - Taz.

You can drill and tap to front of head so you can pull the rocker shafts out the front!

Did you not just consider altering the IVC with the adjustable can gears for the Kelford cams? This is what I have done in past by maintaining required overlap but finishing power stroke earlier to shift torque peak

@hpa101

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, there may have been an improvement by advancing the cams. From my own experience as well as others who have played with the cam timing on the 184-ST t's unlikely we'd have been able to move the power band down by 1000+ rpm which is what we are targeting with just the cam timing. The P12 cam on the other hand has a few runs on the board showing it should do what we want. No disrespect to Kelford on this one, their cams are maybe just a bit too good! - Andre

@TristanNZ

3 жыл бұрын

@@hpa101 totally all depends on ramp angles

Enjoyable as always. You guys bought shares in a headgasket company yet?

@hpa101

3 жыл бұрын

Good news is that the gasket has been holding up just fine since our early issues. Although of course pulling the head still means replacing it which is a shame - Andre

@davey_projects2977

3 жыл бұрын

@@hpa101 yah may comment was more around the head off and on and off and on shenanigans, rather than the gasket failing:D

@hpa101

3 жыл бұрын

@@davey_projects2977 gotta have some sort of hobby right haha - Taz.

I noticed you have an external oil feed on the inlet side and assuming on the exhaust side at the back of the head . Any particular reason for this or was this a recommendation from kelford using their cams? I'd like to know the size line used if possible please. Thanks for your time! Great info.

Hey Andre, great info. I too am doing an sr20 vvl build. What are your thoughts on the p12 intake cam and the xtrail vet exhaust cam?

@hpa101

3 жыл бұрын

That appears to be another common option and by all accounts could be better again. Some of our decision has come down to what we could actually source in a suitable time frame - Andre

Do u think g30 turbo is good for ur car? And is there any reason u choose gtx30g2

Why don't you grind the back end of the valve to reduce the installed height and run a larger shim?

@hpa101

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, the valves can be 'tipped' but there's a limit to what can be removed before you go through the surface hardening. While tipping the valve would allow a thicker shim for the same lash clearance which could potentially engage deeper into the retainer, the relationship between the lip of the retainer and the top of the shim doesn't change for a given valve installed height and lash clearance. Basically any time the valve seats are cut this moves the valve deeper into the head (even if it's only a few thou) which means the retainer lip also moves higher relative to the cam base circle - Andre

14:43 is that a shirt from the 1990's hanging on the swaybar? 😯

@hpa101

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah it's interesting what comes in the rag bags eh 😂

Would the 184st cams still be good for street use with a 3582 gen2 turbo and a 2.2L stroked bottom end? Would this be laggy or have somewhat response ?

@hpa101

3 жыл бұрын

I would imagine you'd see similar response with the 3582 and the larger capacity to what we have now - Boost threshold of around 4300-4500 which isn't bad for a 3582 - Andre

Any reason you picked the p12 cams over the kelford 184 LT cams.

@hpa101

3 жыл бұрын

While the LT would be an interesting alternative, the low lobe cam on the LT is identical to the ST (at least from what we've been told) so I doubt we would be able to expect much in the way of low rpm performance improvement - Well nothing up until the VVL switch over which would admittedly occur earlier in the rev range. The P12 cam on the other hand has been pretty thoroughly tested and proven in turbo applications - Andre

@nigeld1677

3 жыл бұрын

@@hpa101 well I might just stay with the P12 cams I have, hopefully you go into detail on if u find any performance gain and advancing or retarding the cams.

when are the beanies coming back in stock on the merch store?

@hpa101

3 жыл бұрын

Will try get some on there next week, although we've never actually sold them yet - Taz

@guidoheeling1179

3 жыл бұрын

@@hpa101 ah okay, i thought i saw endrew wear them a couple of times, thought it looked really nice. If they come available for a good price i'm gonna order some

@hpa101

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I got a good deal on some staff ones for the winter so they won't cost much. They're nothing flash, but warm :) - Taz.

Sorry for your hard ship but I love it for 20 yrs the public don’t believe the issues that come bk from machine shops ,

@hpa101

3 жыл бұрын

There are certainly some awesome companies out there, but everyone drops the ball sometimes for better or worse. Usually how it is handled makes all the difference eh - Taz.

Wonna sell the 184 st cams ?

Getting famous off of comments day 162,so I can live the dream, live life to the fullest🚀🤙🚀

@2511jeremy

3 жыл бұрын

Good luck to you sir have a great life

@hpa101

3 жыл бұрын

Will you sign my baby? - Taz.

You will have issues with the titanium valve retainer stock is better for durability

@hpa101

3 жыл бұрын

Yes it's quite possible as we've heard similar comments. At least the marginal weight saving of the Ti retainer becomes less important if we're dropping the rev limit down - Andre

@janwildner8057

3 жыл бұрын

@@hpa101 I believe the sr16ve in pulsar vzr is revving 8.7k stock

Great content but I would enjoy if there were more details and a little more in depth story.

@hpa101

3 жыл бұрын

What other details would you like that aren't in this or the other 9 episodes? Let us know as we do plan to keep doing content like this in the future on other builds as well - Taz.

There's nothing worse than doing all your own work just to be let down by somebody else's incompetence! Hopefully you have found another machine shop and took your business elsewhere! If average Joe went there without going through and checking the work it would of ended up in another engine failure.