Caine Barlow - Australian Psilocybe and their Lookalikes

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Today we are releasing the first talk in a new series taken from our recent Garden States Microdose Livestream. Caine Barlow's talk titled 'Australian Psilocybe and their Lookalikes' received a great deal of positive feedback. If you are a lover of mushrooms and the Psilocybe genus then this talk is for you.
The EGA team have created this very special reference guide for Psilocybe subaeruginosa (www.entheogenesis.org/referen...) for the community, Which will be discussed and referred to over the webcast.
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Lecture Title - Australian Psilocybe and their Lookalikes
Synopsis
While the Genus Psilocybe in Australia, is represented by few formally defined species, there are comparatively many more look-alike species. Many of them are poisonous, some can cause liver or kidney damage, some deadly. Being able to identify the lookalikes as well as the desired mushroom goes a long way to increasing your own safety and being able to help friends identify theirs. Foragers should know how to identify Galerina sp., Hypholoma sp., and those from the genus Cortinarius.
Talk Slide Link
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Bio - Caine Barlow
Caine Barlow is a Fungi Educator and Mycologist based in Melbourne, Australia. He gives regular talks on mycology, fungi conservation, and teaches gourmet mushroom cultivation. He works closely with the Australian organisations Entheogenesis Australis, the Australian Psychedelic Society, and is a co-founder of US-based organisation The Entheome Foundation. Caine started foraging mushrooms in the early 1990’s, and started cultivating gourmet fungi in the mid 2000’s. He did his Master of Science at the University of Melbourne where his research project was based around Conservation Mycology. He has written for Entheogenesis Australis, DoubleBlind, ThirdWave, MicroDose, and Healing Maps. Caine is currently working on a book project, expected to be released mid-2023! In addition to fungi, he has had a long-term interest in ethnobotany, ethnobotanical literature, and growing medicinal plants. Caine posts regularly on his Instagram @guerrillamycology.
His website is www.guerrillamycology.com
Thanks
We’d like to send a massive thank you to all the contributors, our host, Nick Wallis, and everyone that tuned into EGA’s first livestream event.
Note: This segment if from our livestream series, bandwidth and Image quality can fluctuate with web based live recordings.

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  • @karlashdown5228
    @karlashdown52283 жыл бұрын

    Been on the Psilocybe hunt for close to 30 years i think the first two years i occasionally got a lookalike so it is a concern, for the novice this is a great clip for experienced folks its a reminder regardless it is worth the watch.

  • @jhowardsupporter

    @jhowardsupporter

    3 жыл бұрын

    Man I was out there squeezing everything I came across looking for the blue colour. How long does it take to go blue anyway??? Is it instant???

  • @karlashdown5228

    @karlashdown5228

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jhowardsupporter Bro the stalks will go Blue like Navy Blue very fast & often are a whitish colour, the caps if fresh can have a blueish hue on the edges but only when they are wet however the tops of various NZ types will if exposed to sun can be Golden or brown/gold & have blue staining but for sure the stalks are the giveaway they should in most types other than liberty Caps go Blue faster than most other parts of the Shroom hope that helps if your not sure ask a friend or look online for examples there are quite a few, But Be Careful If you are Totally Unsure don't bother there are nasty lookalikes that don't go Blue in any way at all

  • @jhowardsupporter

    @jhowardsupporter

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@karlashdown5228 Sweet. I don't know what to offer in return. In Aus I can rattle off a couple of websites that will send you seed for any. That Shaman one, Australis I think they'll send out a lot plus there is other ones. Otherwise you can go to Amsterdam and shove things inside yourself in rubbers cos the dogs can't smell that. People only get done cos they got like 40- 50 balloons inside. Couple of seeds. Nah.

  • @karlashdown5228

    @karlashdown5228

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jhowardsupporter No need bro just enjoy share & stay safe & take care.

  • @seapod

    @seapod

    2 жыл бұрын

    Here in Florida we trip over psilocybe mushrooms... no pun intended. They grow like weeds there. I'm up in NC now and there plenty up here also. Just have to look outside the psilocybe species like Pholiota or Pluteus Americanus. Extremely common everywhere I go.

  • @LittleGeorgieGirl97
    @LittleGeorgieGirl973 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for this video. Appreciate your work :)

  • @danielwitham1791
    @danielwitham17914 жыл бұрын

    Thanks very much Caine, Nick, Simon, photography/other contributers and EGA. A wonderful and very important presentation 🍄❤️

  • @silas1414
    @silas14142 жыл бұрын

    Excellent presentation.

  • @j.a.emmanueltemplemann5627
    @j.a.emmanueltemplemann5627 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you. you are so learned about your subject. Amazing.

  • @justin-dr6sx
    @justin-dr6sx3 жыл бұрын

    Great video, thanks

  • @tomsymes22
    @tomsymes22 Жыл бұрын

    thank you! nice sounds too. definitely got asmr from this video

  • @kiowhatta1
    @kiowhatta1 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for providing this crucial information. We need a lot more resources and information on mushrooms and plant based psychedelics relevant to Australia.

  • @soulthriver-oz6470

    @soulthriver-oz6470

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm in the Central Coast NSW. Microdosed years ago when I owned a house with gold tops. Never felt so normal, so joyous in a subtle way. I am so frustrated in trying to find them again, I'm thinking of driving up to Nimbin hoping for street seller. Does anyone know, can I freeze some? Or do they lose their efficacy?

  • @3leggedsharkkickssurferinballs

    @3leggedsharkkickssurferinballs

    Жыл бұрын

    @@soulthriver-oz6470 You've probably already been told this by now, but just in case, you can store them in honey, in a jar. They'll last for ages like that :) . As for freezing, I have no idea whatsoever. Like you, I'm here looking for as much info as i can find. I've only ever bought them from or been given them ( been quite lucky there, they always seem to find me!) by other people. I thought it was about time I trained myself up on proper ID-ing of all the therapeutic shrooms ( and their potentially deadly lookalikes) so that I can feel more confident foraging for them myself, as like yourself, I had a really positive experience microdosing. I don't want to feel dependent on other people supplying me with them. Personally, I've found that ONE really meaningful mushroom trip ( approached with set intentions, etc) per year is also beneficial for mental health.

  • @soulthriver-oz6470

    @soulthriver-oz6470

    Жыл бұрын

    @@3leggedsharkkickssurferinballs Thanks, no I didn't know about the honey!ook like I'll be doing a long drive to Nmbn soon, no luck here. I've heard even experienced hunters can pick toxic shrms. Yeah micro d is the way to go.

  • @clairekorte6048
    @clairekorte6048 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much!

  • @mattkaz9604
    @mattkaz96042 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic detail here - there's some species that look sorta-almost like subs that could cause problems if people don't know this stuff. Quality video.

  • @richardfinlayson1524
    @richardfinlayson15244 жыл бұрын

    this is great, very useful info, and the info on species is invaluable and hard to find, thanks a lot

  • @nyx_AUs
    @nyx_AUs3 жыл бұрын

    Good video

  • @shakenbaconsshow8191
    @shakenbaconsshow81914 жыл бұрын

    Going hunting after watching this I'll feel more confident in picking what's right cheers man new to the field 👍 awesome information

  • @karlashdown5228
    @karlashdown52283 жыл бұрын

    P-Alutacea found some of these in Auckland NZ in 2016 wasn't 100% sure what species they were then but they are here.

  • @felinefox4039
    @felinefox403910 күн бұрын

    The photos at 8.19 are excellent. Perfect example of what they look like (in the parts of Australia you've mentioned). For me the wavy stem is one of the most unique identifiers of gold tops. That and the blue tinge as they bruise, as you've mentioned. Thanks for info about the gill colour changing from cream to brown with age. I didn't know that, and found a cream gilled one and was wondering why it wasn't more brown.

  • @Patrick12q3
    @Patrick12q33 жыл бұрын

    Thank you great video very informative and well presented

  • @duke83aus
    @duke83ausАй бұрын

    What a great guy love your work 👏 thankyou

  • @P.Subaeruginosa
    @P.Subaeruginosa2 жыл бұрын

    When the subaeruginosa dries out to the point of the cap being "white" it will always have a slight blue hue

  • @MataH1
    @MataH12 жыл бұрын

    Very useful thanks!

  • @philmusson1265
    @philmusson12652 жыл бұрын

    I can't believe he completely ignored SA as a region of Australia! The mushrooms here are epic!

  • @Niawithnat

    @Niawithnat

    Жыл бұрын

    Prolific in SA

  • @jeremywild901
    @jeremywild9013 жыл бұрын

    Nice one Caine very informative

  • @muszr00m
    @muszr00m3 жыл бұрын

    amazing.. thank you :)

  • @alexmountford2815
    @alexmountford28153 жыл бұрын

    I am commonly finding p. Alutacea at my farm in the blue mountains. I find them in kangaroo and horse dung.

  • @cainebarlow216

    @cainebarlow216

    3 жыл бұрын

    cool. good to hear.

  • @freedivetribe9684
    @freedivetribe96842 жыл бұрын

    Great content. Thank you 🙏🌈🍄

  • @HecTechFPV
    @HecTechFPV2 ай бұрын

    I have heard from a reliable source that alutacea & semilanceata does grow on the Mid North Coast, NSW

  • @soulthriver-oz6470
    @soulthriver-oz6470 Жыл бұрын

    I want to try a tiny raw piece of just one fully white traditional looking mushroom I found in my garden yesterday. Its flat on top with a v slightly raised v small mound top centre that is a few shades darker. Does it sound poisonous? Or psilocybin type?

  • @soulthriver-oz6470
    @soulthriver-oz6470 Жыл бұрын

    Where can I buy the fungi fold out laminated poster you showed at the end?

  • @soulthriver-oz6470

    @soulthriver-oz6470

    Жыл бұрын

    That would be great, thanks.

  • @robdebono124
    @robdebono124 Жыл бұрын

    Very informative. I recently thought I found one of these mushroom species. Which prompted me to research the topic. Is there a contact email that I can send the pic of the mushroom for identification?

  • @entheotv

    @entheotv

    Жыл бұрын

    This guide will help you - www.entheogenesis.org/ega-resources/blog-post-title-one-mcn4m-ds7aw-2tfdj

  • @dubjohnston
    @dubjohnston3 жыл бұрын

    psilocybe alutacea looks a lot like psilocybe pelliculosa.. how can you tell the difference? saw a bunch, i think, in early june in melbourne. The ones I saw looked much more like the first slide of them

  • @entheotv

    @entheotv

    3 жыл бұрын

    Have you also viewed this video, it should help - kzread.info/dash/bejne/oKymw8eFodTdY8Y.html

  • @dubjohnston

    @dubjohnston

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@entheotv Thanks. I will. The ones i saw look a lot like psilocybe semilaceasta too. hmmm. They were growing from moist dirt amongst eucalyptus undergrowth. I find these look a bit similar. I will post on one the website you recommend plus watch your vid. cheers again

  • @karlashdown5228
    @karlashdown52283 жыл бұрын

    Must have been pressed for time cant find P-Papuana except at the start no description, Still a great clip anyway.

  • @cainebarlow216

    @cainebarlow216

    3 жыл бұрын

    This is a really rare species, and no one is out looking for these in any large numbers.

  • @karlashdown5228

    @karlashdown5228

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@cainebarlow216 In NZ i have been out most years since i was a teen not really hunting but always looking & have found many often varied types of Psilocybe containing fungi you mentioned Wareroa in the clip 20 years ago near Wellington my friend brought me some of these because he just wasn't 100% to be honest neither was i but he tried one & the rest is history now i find these in my local park in Auckland. My reason for wanting to know more was just curiosity as anomalies among some of the Blue turning fungi i have found are many & varied but i love the whole experience i don't even partake any more when & if i find i give away to friends many of whom have taken to microdosing the last few years. I will check Shroomery for a visual of Papuana just out of curiosity's sake. Again thank you for the Clip very well done.

  • @HecTechFPV
    @HecTechFPV10 ай бұрын

    Rather intrested in papuana and i know where it grow's locally just waiting for some good rains to hit!

  • @MataH1
    @MataH12 жыл бұрын

    I found (I think) some subs but they were so dry they were hard, so didn't bruise blue (couldn't bruise at all). Question is, are they still active when dry? Is that normal they don't bruise anymore, i.e. was I mistaking the type?

  • @MegaCharns

    @MegaCharns

    2 жыл бұрын

    yes very normal

  • @MegaCharns

    @MegaCharns

    2 жыл бұрын

    won't drop spores either if they're old n dry

  • @KelvinReid8777
    @KelvinReid8777 Жыл бұрын

    Bit confused about the pronouncing of Psilocybe as the word Psilocybin is pronounced as silo-cybe-bin.. great presentation BTW..

  • @EdibleObelisk
    @EdibleObelisk3 жыл бұрын

    What ever you do don't eat the mushrooms you see in hyperspace .if you eat them they collapse the universe

  • @fabzlab1980
    @fabzlab198022 күн бұрын

    Smurfs Turn blue very quick , instanly , might find ones actually blue among the pack sometimes ...had it nothing happen ,best night ever ....foraging is a quest , buggered by the of end of day ...safrrons and jacks along way too...its fun

  • @matthewmcconaghy-shanley3661
    @matthewmcconaghy-shanley36612 жыл бұрын

    Is the Gallernina Stipe as fibrous as the Subaerginosas?

  • @gracehughes606

    @gracehughes606

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes the two stipes side by side appear identical. Need to identify using other features.

  • @justin-dr6sx

    @justin-dr6sx

    Жыл бұрын

    The stems of the Subs are very fibrous. That is the obvious way to determine they are them. Other lookalikes are softer n mushy.

  • @justin-dr6sx
    @justin-dr6sx3 жыл бұрын

    Do you know how the subregonosia got into Balingup....??

  • @cainebarlow216

    @cainebarlow216

    3 жыл бұрын

    It is thought that they were introduced with the pine seedlings, possibly shipped from another part of the country, Victoria or Tasmania. No doubt, a population study of Psilocybe subaeruginosa will answer this question at some point.

  • @justin-dr6sx

    @justin-dr6sx

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@cainebarlow216 yeah ok. Some people say an old hippie introduced it there too.

  • @soulthriver-oz6470
    @soulthriver-oz6470 Жыл бұрын

    Thankyou but this is all too hard. So many lookalikes with subtle differences. I need an expert to come to my small acreage & show me the right ones. I've got about 3 varieties but no gold tops unfortunately, the ones I REALLY want.

  • @LivingBGLegend
    @LivingBGLegend2 жыл бұрын

    Does this information apply to Washington state USA psilocybe species?

  • @holleyflowers8125

    @holleyflowers8125

    2 жыл бұрын

    healerchris 02¿

  • @holleyflowers8125

    @holleyflowers8125

    2 жыл бұрын

    On Instagram¿ He sells

  • @philmusson1265

    @philmusson1265

    2 жыл бұрын

    I suspect not as mushrooms can change dramatically from region to region. Should be plenty of info available on Washington state mushrooms though

  • @burieddeepbetween
    @burieddeepbetween2 жыл бұрын

    This is excellent but lacking the one answer I was looking for. Are there any of the **visual** lookalike species which both bruise blue AND are poisonous? I know some of the visual lookalikes are poisonous, but are they any of the ones that also bruise blue? Or are the visual lookalikes that bruise blue safe to mix in with a bag of genuine psilos in the case of a mistaken identification? Are the other poisonous varieties that bruise blue **visual** lookalikes or are they **visually** quite different? I'm trying to put this as clearly as possible but language is such a PITA. Shit should just be legal. Hate this country sometimes.

  • @kushsmoka

    @kushsmoka

    2 жыл бұрын

    been thinking about this too, do a spore print, really is the only way to be 100% certain.

  • @Rubiks.Cube89

    @Rubiks.Cube89

    Жыл бұрын

    Don't just rely on blue bruising to determine if it's a psilocybe, it's important to use multiple ways to identify each mushroom

  • @lolszdragon
    @lolszdragon4 жыл бұрын

    spores in a spray bottle, suspended in what solution? just water?

  • @cainebarlow216

    @cainebarlow216

    4 жыл бұрын

    yes people use just water.

  • @karlashdown5228

    @karlashdown5228

    3 жыл бұрын

    Distilled water or rain water are best

  • @karlashdown5228

    @karlashdown5228

    3 жыл бұрын

    people have also found drying them on brown paper bags for the spore print & cutting them up to spread also works the rougher the brown paper the better as it is unbleached & will breakdown fast & also give the spores food once the breakdown starts & the mycelium starts to appear so i hear😉

  • @cacogenicist
    @cacogenicist2 жыл бұрын

    Poor Australia is very impoverished as far as number of _Psilocybe_ species. Especially compared to North America. There are places on the northern coastline of Oregon when one can find 5 species in a couple square km area -- _P. semilanceata,_ _P. peliculosa,_ _P. cyanescens,_ _P. azurescens,_ and _P. allenii._ One can probably find many more species than that in the same area, in parts of Mexico.

  • @philmusson1265

    @philmusson1265

    2 жыл бұрын

    But who needs 5 different species? Lucky Australia has one of the most potent in P. subaeruginosa and it's absolutely ubiquitous.

  • @cacogenicist

    @cacogenicist

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@philmusson1265 - It's definitely a good species to have, if you're going to have so few. _Ps. cyanescens_ is pretty widespread on the West Coast of the USA. And the eastern USA species _Ps. ovoidiocystidiata_ is spreading very rapidly now on the West coast -- and it's a spring fruiter, so N. America has 2 seasons of heavy wood-lover fruiting.

  • @toddjensen8806
    @toddjensen88063 жыл бұрын

    Are these edible varieties?

  • @troymorris9530

    @troymorris9530

    3 жыл бұрын

    NO

  • @juicych0de847

    @juicych0de847

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@troymorris9530 they are edible but you get high off them

  • @SwitchFlipMan

    @SwitchFlipMan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hell yeah dude. Just a couple of grams at first tho haha

  • @fishmut

    @fishmut

    Жыл бұрын

    Don’t listen to this telling you to only have a couple of grams , that is bad information , ….research know 100% what it is and then micro dose if it’s ok like only take a small very small amount like a 10th of a gram first time , there are loads of video on psychedelics , (magic mushrooms) if ever not sure simply just don’t ever ever do it .

  • @britchie7224
    @britchie7224 Жыл бұрын

    Is Fungi flip only of real use in Tassie?

  • @rolandbenjamin5390

    @rolandbenjamin5390

    Жыл бұрын

    Try my plug

  • @rolandbenjamin5390

    @rolandbenjamin5390

    Жыл бұрын

    MyCohenRy 3 3

  • @rolandbenjamin5390

    @rolandbenjamin5390

    Жыл бұрын

    He’s on Instagram

  • @rolandbenjamin5390

    @rolandbenjamin5390

    Жыл бұрын

    He Sells

  • @junkettarp8942
    @junkettarp89426 ай бұрын

    Thoes subs where growing up the street in the garden bed and the council came and sprayed them.

  • @jackie00754
    @jackie007543 жыл бұрын

    these look almost identical to galerina

  • @entheotv

    @entheotv

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Ser, That partly why the EGA team have created this very special reference guide for Psilocybe subaeruginosa (www.entheogenesis.org/referen...) for the community, Which will be discussed and referred to over the webcast. Also see this Video for more ID help - kzread.info/dash/bejne/oKymw8eFodTdY8Y.html

  • @jackie00754

    @jackie00754

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@entheotv Hi do you know of any specific locations where i could find subs in sydney?

  • @entheotv

    @entheotv

    3 жыл бұрын

    ​@@jackie00754 We suggest connect with a local fungi interest group and ask them for help. Remember collecting is not legal, so keep that in mind for your own safety.

  • @heatherbarnes142
    @heatherbarnes1423 жыл бұрын

    Hi, can anyone please help me, i was microdosing last year. i have since developed Trigeminal neuralgia (nerve pain down the side of the face) and every time i microdose now it seems to excacerbae the pain. can anyone please explain why this is?

  • @mathewtaylor9124

    @mathewtaylor9124

    3 жыл бұрын

    Have a full dose.

  • @heatherbarnes142

    @heatherbarnes142

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mathewtaylor9124 hi. I went to a ceremony and she would not let me do it?? She used mdma instead. I was disappointed.

  • @mathewtaylor9124

    @mathewtaylor9124

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@heatherbarnes142 buy mushrooms on deep web haha honestly mdma is putrid

  • @heatherbarnes142

    @heatherbarnes142

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mathewtaylor9124 I have some mushrooms but I’m afraid of doing it on my own. My first mdma was great, the second time I had the worst “downer” for weeks after I was a wreck. Don’t think I’ll do that again.

  • @davez5201

    @davez5201

    3 жыл бұрын

    A better question is why the hell are you still dosing if it messes you up? Seems dumb...

  • @BattleFlanky
    @BattleFlanky4 жыл бұрын

    Always run into sometimes very convincing gals & gyms on forages. Frustrating.

  • @I_AM_ALL_THAT_WAS
    @I_AM_ALL_THAT_WAS2 ай бұрын

    You’re in Tassie haha fairy wrens

  • @yeahyeahbutno4749
    @yeahyeahbutno47492 жыл бұрын

    Great this is stupid i have to die to find out

  • @fishmut

    @fishmut

    Жыл бұрын

    No body is forcing you to consume mushrooms , don’t take things you have no clue about , unless you like to play Russian roulette with your life , your choice.

  • @_kimiadventures
    @_kimiadventures3 жыл бұрын

    Your pronunciation is K I L L I N G M E not sure I can hear this out

  • @SaucyTuRkLeBiRd

    @SaucyTuRkLeBiRd

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hahahaha when I first heard a Mycologist's pronunciation I was surprised too :'). Not exactly what you'd expect

  • @cainebarlow216

    @cainebarlow216

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@SaucyTuRkLeBiRd what would you expect?

  • @cainebarlow216

    @cainebarlow216

    3 жыл бұрын

    Which pronunciation?

  • @SaucyTuRkLeBiRd

    @SaucyTuRkLeBiRd

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@cainebarlow216 Take "psilocybe", for example. When I was first doing research I assumed it was "Sil-o-sibe" not "sil-oh-si-bee"

  • @cainebarlow216

    @cainebarlow216

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@SaucyTuRkLeBiRd same. till i was corrected. as we say "Sil-o-sibe-in"!

  • @mathewtaylor9124
    @mathewtaylor91243 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the info but you you could of done a much better presentation and narration

  • @entheotv

    @entheotv

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your feedback Mathew, Remember everyone has to start somewhere. I think this was one of Caine very first attempts at such a lecture, so with that in mind, we feel he did well. It the content that is key and he covers that well. We suggest you have a look at the below link if your looking for further support ID psilocybe-subaeruginosa - www.entheogenesis.org/resources/