Honda, Toyota and Nissan are saying: "Thanks, GM, thanks, Ford."

@joeyGalileoHotto

5 жыл бұрын

Nissan sedans other than the maxima are ugly

@EricFortuneJr.

5 жыл бұрын

@@joeyGalileoHotto Sales say otherwise.

@joa8593

5 жыл бұрын

Even Honda and Toyota are slowing production. I don't think the Accord or Camry (or Altima) are going anywhere, but they're going to no longer be the flagship for their respective brands either.

@mountainhobo

5 жыл бұрын

"Europe and Asia still are gong strong with their sedans" -- Europe is already on the crossover bandwagon, and the trend is growing rapidly.

@mountainhobo

5 жыл бұрын

"bmw will never their sedans" -- Send me a translation of that, please. And never, ever, call me your buddy. Perhaps you are confused, but I am not now, have never been, and never will be your buddy. I trust we are clear on that now? Also, I am not "wishing on" anything. Are you illiterate?

I hope sedans don't completely disappear.

@jdm1039

5 жыл бұрын

@pmerk36 What is the point of that comparison? That the Highlander is more popular than the Avalon? Or that the Highlander is better/ worth more than an Avalon?

@jdm1039

5 жыл бұрын

@pmerk36 Ok makes sense. Many people falsely believe that resale values are indicative of quality or a better vehicle when in reality it's based on popularity. Highlander is certainly more popular than an Avalon. Not necessarily better (or worse) but clearly more popular.

@rojjo

5 жыл бұрын

@pmerk36 Well I will take the Avalon hybrid for the gas mileage anyday over the Highlander

@fycfyc1

5 жыл бұрын

i remember seeing somewhere they did a research and it showed suvs have a more natural seating position compared to sedans, which make them more comfortable. and since most people use cars as transportation first, comfort is going to be the #1 factor. as someone who have only owned sedans myself, i have to say on my limited chances drving a suv (dealer rentals), it's a lot more comfortable for daily commutes and getting in and out of.

@seanguy9720

5 жыл бұрын

@@fycfyc1 I can get behind that, but in modern sedans, you sit MUCH higher off the ground than a sedan of 20+ years ago. When my father first got his 2017 Hyundai Sonata, I was surprised how high up you sit inside. It is much higher than the 1997 Honda Accord I drive, and because of that, my family refers to it as a "go cart" (suspension is stock) But, I will say ground clearance is a problem. My father's Sonata has barely just enough ground clearance to go over parking blocks, while my Accord can go over one with a few inches to spare. I think they do this for fuel economy, being lower to the ground, but I can see people buying CUVs, SUVs, and even trucks just for that extra security of knowing you won't rip your bumper off driving over a parking block.

It appears that GM and Ford have forgotten the minivan trend when EVERYONE bought a minivan and then suddenly no one did. I feel this is a terrible, terrible, mistake long term for a brand. VW/Audi and Hyundai/Kia/Genesis will fill that product void and then mop the floor with the scraps Ford and GM will become when fuel prices rise again.

@afcgeo882

5 жыл бұрын

@Brian Ross to the contrary, you seem to assume the sedan will sell forever. Look at station wagons. Where did they go? What will sell is the product that appeals to the most people - something that's the right size, the right price, that has flexible use, that's comfortable and economically efficient. That's the CUV, for most Americans. It's not perfect at anything, but it's good at everything.

@harleyjackson5513

5 жыл бұрын

George L , I see me and you agree on many areas.

@imabebebebe2496

5 жыл бұрын

@Brian Ross american fat asses with bad hips and a bad lower back. from being almost 300 lbs. aka the crossover/ rwd truck buyer.

@AdamSmith-gs2dv

5 жыл бұрын

@Brian Ross You sure? I could see that in the early 2000s when going to an SUV meant going from 30mpg to 10mpg but the new crossovers get 30 mpg and the hybrid models get 40 mpg (2019 Toyota RAV4 numbers used because it's the best selling crossover).

@cathrynm

5 жыл бұрын

Why did minivans die, anyway. I still keep my father's old Silhouette Van running. It's a little bit crusty, but gets to the superarket.

What happens when gas prices skyrocket and people don’t want an SUV or truck?

@slowanddeliberate6893

5 жыл бұрын

By the time that would ever happen, we'll all have flying transportation vehicles.

@AdamSmith-gs2dv

5 жыл бұрын

Barring Iran doing something stupid or stupid Saudi sanctions it's unlikely oil will ever get above $100 again. Not only are cars more efficient but the US has just added a whole Saudi Arabia of supply in under 5 years...

@benjamingrimes3304

5 жыл бұрын

It's going to happen in 2020. Search: IMO sulfur cap. Oil prices will SKYROCKET.

@incognitotorpedo42

5 жыл бұрын

@@benjamingrimes3304 Yeah, I looked at the IMO sulfur cap. OK, ships will burn cleaner oil, and that will increase demand for clean oil. Has someone done the math on this? No one else is claiming that oil will skyrocket in 2020. Are long oil futures prices lending any credence to this theory?

@benjamingrimes3304

5 жыл бұрын

@@incognitotorpedo42 no, it will increase demand for clean fuel, mostly diesel, causing increases in prices at the pump.

the reason Chevy and Ford aren't making any more sedans because they can't compete with Honda and Toyota Just like they stopped making minivans! They couldn't compete!!!

@brooklynknightss

5 жыл бұрын

@pochoun33137 GM interiors are still stuck in the 70s

@brooklynknightss

5 жыл бұрын

@pochoun33137 Lincoln finally got the continental right pretty nice car and they are going to give up on it

@brooklynknightss

5 жыл бұрын

If Ford and Chevy think that Honda and Toyota are not going to go after them in the SUV market they will be deadly wrong, then what give up on that to?

@brooklynknightss

5 жыл бұрын

It's like all the German cars Mercedes BMW Audi totally unreliable

@brooklynknightss

5 жыл бұрын

Think about it how many old Mercedes BMW or Audi do you see on a road hardly any after 7 years they disappear

GM only wants to produce high priced, high profit vehicles. You won't be able to buy anything from GM for less than $40,000 in the coming years. When the price is that high, why not buy a good vehicle for your money, not a crappy GM vehicle.

@paulparoma

5 жыл бұрын

To reinforce the point, $40K goes a long way in the used Lexus market.

@GH-oi2jf

5 жыл бұрын

Robert Terrill - GM is making high-quality vehicles now. We have two Chevys and they are both well-designed and well-made vehicles.

@MaestroTJS

5 жыл бұрын

@@GH-oi2jf Yeah right, I'm sure it will run as well as a Toyota in the long-term.

@EMichaelBall

5 жыл бұрын

@you build it we destroy it Nissan CVT's are often FUBAR by 80,000 miles.

@helpme4100

4 жыл бұрын

@@paulparoma Hell yeah, I would take a Lexus any day over a piece of junk from GM.

Imagine that - GM is acting on market pressures. If they did this before the great recession, they might not have had to take a bailout. For years they seemed to build cars just because they wanted and they were the big dogs.. question - who buys a Buick these days?

@awall422

5 жыл бұрын

Phil Orion so true

@Tinomentoll

5 жыл бұрын

The Chinese, the Chinese buy Buicks now days.

@johnpaulroman3498

5 жыл бұрын

A few years ago the Buick’s looked really nice (Lacrosse, Enclave) but now that they redesigned them with the red white and blue logos on the front of the cars, they look outdated

@venom5809

5 жыл бұрын

The Chinese did until we pissed them off. Source, my neighbor who owns a company in China, who says once loved American cars are now a bad word over there. He's even selling off the Chinese part of his company over there because anti-American sentiment is so bad now.

@chapterrv

5 жыл бұрын

Rental car companies. Seriously, I just rented a Buick for a road trip. Lol. Such cheap quality

Love the informational vids!

@MrHav1k

5 жыл бұрын

Same. Big fan!

I really hate crossovers ! I currently have a 2017 CT6 , and it's a really great car .

@mark_r49

5 жыл бұрын

Travels & Chases How old are you?

@TravelsChases

5 жыл бұрын

@@mark_r49 in my 40s I get it . Caddys are "old men" cars . I've had Lexus, Bmws, Mercedes and Audi before . I wanted something different this time . I do miss my German cars though , but the CT6 really is an awesome car . Sad to see it go.

@MaestroTJS

5 жыл бұрын

@@TravelsChases Don't feel bad! I'm 41 and think the CT6 is awesome too, same with Caddy's other sedans. Well, except the XTS, that one doesn't seem too special.

@frisbee544

5 жыл бұрын

Then take care of it and hang on to it!

@larrycarter3596

5 жыл бұрын

I agree! All the "W" chassis cars are attractive and excellent performers. There isn't much difference between high end luxury cars and the GM sedans. The biggest difference is the GM cars are less expensive to maintain and have better reliability.

Sedans will return to the market

@derek8591

5 жыл бұрын

@Brian Ross Let's see what will happen in the future after the oil price going up etc

@dodge1515

5 жыл бұрын

@@derek8591 The problem with that is we now have more alternative fuels available, so I don't really see another 2008-type automotive crisis happening just yet.

@benjamingrimes3304

5 жыл бұрын

@@dodge1515 Wait till 2020. It will come then. Oil prices will soar like never before.

@ericdolby1622

5 жыл бұрын

Is GM still making the Malibu and Ford has its competitor I'm sure.

@ericdolby1622

5 жыл бұрын

@David Malinovsky so you have a choice between 2 sedans, 2 trucks and 2 suvs after the downsizing. Malibu Sonic Silverado Colorado Equinox Traverse

My 2 cents worth: When GM says that people don't want to buy sedans any more, it's important not to just take what GM says verbatim and just repeat it. Google "top selling vehicles in USA 2018". Within the top 10 you get: Toyota Camry (#7) Honda Civic (#8) Toyota Corolla (#9) ...all of those are cars, not crossovers or SUV's. ...so what that means is that consumers *do* want to buy cars; they just don't want to buy *GM* cars. An important distinction.

Alex, that was very educational but I am left with one question, how many Mexican factories is GM closing?

@jfazzuoli3813

5 жыл бұрын

The answer is ZERO

@afcgeo882

5 жыл бұрын

Now you're getting it! GM has 3 assembly plants in Mexico and 2 engine plants. The assembly plants build the Chevy Equinox and Silverado/Sierra pick-ups, so they won't be closed. Quite the contrary, they will likely be ramped up. The engine plants supply engines that are still going to be used. The low production price, no tariffs to import and high prices of CUVs and pick-ups means GM investors are making a ton of profit! 5 factories will be shut down, 3 of them in the United States and 2 in Canada. www.nytimes.com/2018/11/26/business/general-motors-cutbacks.html NAFTA at work.

@abbaby555

5 жыл бұрын

They should be closing the big one they built in China 1st

@harleyjackson5513

5 жыл бұрын

Screw Gm! I will be purchasing a new made in the U.S. Ford Truck next month!

@dstblj5222

5 жыл бұрын

@@abbaby555 Why that's to sell vehicles to a Chinese consumer base, its quicker, easier, and more efficient to build cars close relatively speaking to where they are sold.

The problem I see with GM is their design. Their cars, truck, and SUV don't age well. I bet a used 2015 corvette interior looks just like the interior of a 2004 corvette with hard plastic, big ass buttons and out dated technology. How is it that Hyundai can create a new luxury car company in the last 4 or 5 years that's 10 times a better value than Cadillac. I've seen more Genesis G80 and G90 than any Cadillac sedan.

@DPpl-nu6km

5 жыл бұрын

@Shawn Kemp The Reign Man!

@glennso47

5 жыл бұрын

Remember the minivans they made in the 90s that looked like something out of a cartoon? Talk about a car that didn't age well. The Fords Chryslers, Toyotas, and Hondas from those years may be old but they still look good.

@DPpl-nu6km

5 жыл бұрын

@@glennso47 I like some of GM cars, truck and SUV exterior design but then when I sit inside I'm completely turned off. Look at the new GMC Sierra it's a beautiful truck on the outside, but the interior is DOA. Who can truly consider buying that truck at 70k with an interior that is already outdated. Smh

@glennso47

5 жыл бұрын

Derek Ppl It’s just a Chevy with different names and sheet metal.

@incognitotorpedo42

5 жыл бұрын

@Shawn Kemp Damn Shawn, you should get that headrest fixed, or get a different car. You've posted this comment like four times.

Im a simple man. I see Alex's 'confused facial expression' thumbnail, I click like.

@nosah8415

5 жыл бұрын

Same

@PeteEbenezerrNewman

5 жыл бұрын

Hahaha

@deviouslaw

5 жыл бұрын

Not going to lie, this thumbnail is extremely unsettling to me

@joecool9739

5 жыл бұрын

@@deviouslaw I see that thumbnail and I get excited because I know Alex is about to drop some hardcore knowledge and informed opinions.

Alex, can you clarify what you mean by more upright seating position? Every car has a wide range of seat adjustability so I don't understand this statement. Thanks.

@MaestroTJS

5 жыл бұрын

I think this is referring to the angle at which your legs are bent. If you sit in a sports car, you'll find your legs go out more horizontally and you sit closer to the floor, whereas in crossovers, your legs are closer to the angle they would be sitting in a chair.

Good job. What's your take on them killing the Volt? Will there be a replacement PHEV?

GM should have considered building cars and trucks for the other end of the market. It wasn't that long ago when you could buy a full sized pickup for under $20k. Do we really need all the "lane keep assist", Wi-Fi routers and 10-inch touchscreens. More gadgets isn't the answer, just a well built car with plenty of space and a reasonable price that reflects the salaries of working class Americans. That used to be a winning formula. Honda, Kia and Toyota seem to grasp this.

@papashango3880

5 жыл бұрын

Its called technology idiot

@tubeyou0101010

5 жыл бұрын

@@papashango3880 - Adaptive exhaust, Cylinder deactivation, and 10 Speed transmissions is really just padding the bill. If they were really interested in technology, how about designing airbags that don't "grenade" into the drivers face, ignition switches that don't cause an engine stall, or maybe a gauge cluster that doesn't fail. For all the engineering prowess that GM is known for, their priorities have been misplaced. Selling cars on "gee whiz" technology instead of perfecting the basics has resulted in them losing generations of consumers.

@lawnmowermanlawnmowerman9930

5 жыл бұрын

Amen,give me a simple car not robo-car.

@ConestogaCreek

5 жыл бұрын

L Ghost - agree. Technology that no one wants is a marketing failure.

@Excalibur2

5 жыл бұрын

Part of the problem is that the average american is overbuying. I've worked so many places with people who are buying $40k+ vehicles that they're really only making payments on, or leasing. They aren't buying what they can afford, so the market is selling what they're buying. These same people are the ones who can't afford a $300 emergency and wonder why.

Alex, thanks for sharing the video. But at the end of the day, if Honda, Nissan, Toyota, Mazda , Hyundai, Kia ...etc can continue to produce new sedans, the questions become why Ford, GM and Chrysler can't. Could it be that they haven't learn from the great recession that they are still making non-competitive cars? Don't get me wrong, their cars are much improved but yet still have trouble competing with Camry, Accord, Altima, Sonata and Optimas. Maybe they are still doing a half ass job. Sad though for American competitiveness.

@ChrisOnline1

5 жыл бұрын

They prioritize quantity over quality, plus I think GM's J.D. award commercials are a load of bullshit.

@TheKaisarwilhelm

5 жыл бұрын

Unionized labor kills competition. They have to cut corners somewhere. Theirs seems to be cheap electronics and slightly cheaper interiors to save extra money for their overpayed unionized labor. Japanese brands don't deal with that.

@joa8593

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheKaisarwilhelm All manufacturing in Japan uses union labor (JAW). They have closed the UAW factories in the US as states have passed "right to work" laws that butcher unions. UAW isn't the problem, Toyota took over a union factory for GM temporarily and the factory worked like a dream under their management. The GM factories being closed are good productive factories as well. UAW mainly screwed up by negotiating short-sighted contracts.

@afcgeo882

5 жыл бұрын

Because there's not demand to have all of those models. It's not that they can't, it's that they aren't making as much money in those in North America. You see, those sedans from Japanese companies are also sold around the rest of the world, while GM and Ford aren't selling much in Europe or Asia. That's because decades ago they had a bad strategy of making their cars under terribly managed foreign brands like Opel/Vauxhall/Saab/Holden. Ford did the same when they bought Volvo and Land Rover. Now they've all realized their failures and sold off those brands, but along with that, they lost all of their presence in those markets. People in Europe have no clue of what GM cars are. Ford does much better in Europe, but has no solid presence in Asia. The entire world has Toyota, Honda, Hyundai, Nissan, Kia, etc. They will continue to sell Camrys, Civics, i30s and others there, so whatever they sell in the U.S. is just gravy to them. To FCA, Ford and GM, their North American sales are the bulk of their sales and foreign sales are gravy to them. When the sales of sedans started dropping and sales of CUVs (which are more profitable anyway) started picking up, it was clear that people were switching from compact cars to sub-compact CUVs and from family sedans to compact CUVs and mid-size CUVs. GM, Ford and FCA could trudge along the current path, but the sales will continue to decline and there will be less and less sales for ALL manufacturers, thus less and less profits. This will impact the US-based companies more, as I've pointed out, so they are ending that segment first. If the sales continue to drop even more, you may see non-luxury foreign sedans leave the market as well. I suspect you'll see Volkswagen drop the Passat, then the Jetta. They've already dropped the VW New Beetle and 2-door Golf/GTIs. I predict that Honda will reduce their Civic line-up, perhaps eliminating the 2-door and 5-door Civics. I imagine Subaru will shut down their Impreza hatch production and possibly the Legacy sedan production as well. Toyota will likely pull the Yaris and Corolla sedan within the next few years, perhaps even pull the Avalon after this generation. Nissan will most likely drop the Versa and re-design the Sentra into a hatchback or drop it as well and the Maxima will likely be dropped after this generation. Nissan will, meanwhile, bring in a new 3-row Pathfinder and possibly re-design the Armada into a better large SUV.

@rayt5520

4 жыл бұрын

Honda and Toyota also are getting away from sedans or merge as a company to make big suvs and trucks big profit makers . Small cars are great until you have kids or g. kids then you feel claustrophobic and cramped .

I don't have kids, I don't need/want an SUV. I'm not a farmer or construction worker, I don't need/want a pickup truck. I guess I'll be buying import cars from now on. SUVs and trucks suck. Yeah, I understand why people that really need them buy them, but those single/married-no kids people that have a huge honkin' truck to drive to the mall with just boggle my mind.

@EMichaelBall

5 жыл бұрын

If you buy a three-year-old car, you'll get 90% of the reliability for thousands of dollars off.

@jimmy5634

5 жыл бұрын

What's it to you what people buy? Last time I heard this was the land of freedom and personal choice. You may feel free to drive a Prius to the mall if that's what floats your boat.

@lawnmowermanlawnmowerman9930

5 жыл бұрын

Because those little foreign car thingys don't respond well to mud tires and country backroads.

Whats the best plugin suv right now? Is gm moving that way?

@EMichaelBall

5 жыл бұрын

None of them. The amount you spend will be more than you'll save on gas. Moreover, the yield curve inverted, yesterday, which is a sign of an upcoming recession. The smart money will pay off at least their car and credit card debts ASAP, and stockpile cash in the bank, in preparation for the next recession.

I seriously don’t want to live in a world without sedans. 😕

@JamaicanMeCrazy

5 жыл бұрын

I didn't want to live in an America without station wagons

@mountainhobo

5 жыл бұрын

"I seriously don’t want to live in a world without sedans" -- Bye.

@Yondaily

5 жыл бұрын

Right!!!!!!

@afcgeo882

5 жыл бұрын

Then go into space, drama queen! Buh bye!

@Techjunkiero

5 жыл бұрын

George L nah, not drama at all. It was a way of saying I prefer sedans.

What a dumb decision, Korean cars will gladly fill up the whole that GM and Ford leaving behind

@harleyjackson5513

5 жыл бұрын

Nope, I am switching to Ford!

@williscurry6557

5 жыл бұрын

@hitek9wittafulclip Looks like I will be ordering an elantra or forte with a manual gearbox sometime real soon!

@STho205

5 жыл бұрын

@@williscurry6557 the Elantra and Forte for several years have been nearly identical to the Ford sedan line. So if you want a 2015 Focus or Fiesta, just go buy a Kia/Hyundai. Assembled in Georgia and Alabama with a lot of Ford world parts. A friend at the plant in Montgomery says Ford is stamped on much of the supplier packages they get. It seems that Ford just doesn't want to build and inventory their sedans and also design/supply the Korean econo sedans. As to customers. When the Focus cost 17k and the Fiesta ICE Sedans have to be under $22,000US to sell unless they offer exotic features like autopilot, EV features, luxury interiors, and other Teslalike offerings. Neither Ford or GM can/won't build that for that price. Chrysler shouldn't still exist. Except for super muscle cars they offer nothing but trouble for decades. Iacocca turned Chrysler into a crap company in the 70s. The world will not end because there won't be a Focus or Malibu in 2020. Inexpensive disposable sedans are for emerging economies anyway. If you can buy a car for $40k but it can last 40 years, that's a much better deal than a five year Malibu, then trade for an Impala.

Your videos and info are Sooo good

Very nice video explaining what is the impact of the GM restructuring.

Great Review. GM announced yesterday they are closing the plant here in Oshawa, Ontario Dec 2019 with 2800 workers losing their job. Workers have all walked out to protest. Need to be careful buying a GM in the near future. Quality of work will be a non factor.

I agree with everyone here that believes the problem is not the market trend or CAFE regulations, is the poor quality and engineering approach GM and Ford has had with their products. In fact, GM’s president she’s not a car girl (car guy sounds much better). These are corporate paper pushers that sees a car as a product, not like an expression of yourself, therefore, they transmit that same feeling to the rest of the company and this is the result. Why then Toyota, Nissan, Honda, MB, BMW, Audi, etc are still making sedans? I’m a sport sedan guy and I always be.

@Jeep2Honda

5 жыл бұрын

I agree. GM is a "good-enough" company. The engineering is "good-enough", the design is "good enough", the interior is "good enough", and the quality is "good enough". The corporate office is chock full of accountants and paper pushers treating their cars like washing machines, or toasters. They dumb down the passionate engineers, and blunt the pencil of talented designers thinking outside the box. No passion, no vision past the next quarter, no drive to be the best. GM will never be the Standard of the World when you strive to only be good enough. The new GM? Just like the old GM.

@josemanuelruiz2036

5 жыл бұрын

fred jeep exactly. Is a shame that a company with so much potential has become an appliance manufacturer. They killed once the Camaro and the Firebird and I don’t doubt that they will do it again, including the Corvette.

@afcgeo882

5 жыл бұрын

The feminine version of "car guy" is "car gal", not "car girl." Do you call men "car boys?"

@afcgeo882

5 жыл бұрын

@@Jeep2Honda so like most successful businesses, they make money, not smiles? That's what every single successful company does. That's capitalism.

@stephenhendricks103

5 жыл бұрын

Jose Manuel Ruiz: The answer to your question is that each of the manufacturers you cite depend less (or not at all) on the sale of trucks. When CAFE standards were introduced and later "refined," those companies responded by innovations in engineering and design. The result was cars with reduced emissions AND improved performance. Ford and GM, on the other hand, lobbied to assure that light trucks would face much less stringent CAFE standards and largely ignored the need to invest in improving their cars.

Changing the product lineup is one thing. Shuttering factories and laying off a huge chunk of your workforce, both considerable investments, is bad management.

Count on Alex for a ton of info wrapped in thoughtful dialogue. Thumbs up.

How is the Outback a truck? Is a horse an elephant, then?

😯 I’m a bit surprised that they’re getting rid of the Volt. I thought it was doing really well.

@afcgeo882

5 жыл бұрын

The government subsidies dried up and the car is simply too expensive and odd to sell well.

@michaelcreek3813

5 жыл бұрын

It's basically a Cruze with the Voltec powertrain, and without the Cruze it's to share cost with, it's to expensive on it's own.

@mattpearson6054

5 жыл бұрын

George L no the volt was a great power train in a horrific package. The vehicle was just too small for a six foot tall person and the cabin pillars hit your shoulders. I considered a Volt but now own a Model 3 Tesla. It is superior to the Volt and cheaper to operate.

@dodge1515

5 жыл бұрын

What? I almost never see those things lol.

@uisblackcat

5 жыл бұрын

@@dodge1515 Depends on where you are located in the United States. Some markets you see them a lot. These would be markets in which gas still hovers at or above $3 even during the winter months.

I 100% love Alex explaining things like this to us.

Very interesting, I never thought of CAFE on this...thank you.

Why would they get rid of the Cruze since it just got redesigned & refreshed model along with the Imapla, LaCrosse, & the CT6? The LaCrosse & the CT6 are great cars that I really like but I can't afford either them since I'm a college student lol

@NileshR12

5 жыл бұрын

No I want to get my own car since I'm on Long Island

@williscurry6557

5 жыл бұрын

@@NileshR12 Long islands going to be killed off by its own racist citizens. Just get completely off L.I

This is not surprising . It's not because more people are moving suvs. It's because chevy makes crappy cars . I have a cruze and water pump went bad at 30000 miles. Unacceptable. Feel bad for workers. But this is what happens when you manufacturer Crap.

@ScribblyPoppo

5 жыл бұрын

GM Ford Chrysler... total crappo.

@scaldon2

5 жыл бұрын

@@ScribblyPoppo thanks 123kspencer. The thing is alot of people are die Hart gm and Ford fans. But fact is gm makes Crap

@Yondaily

5 жыл бұрын

scaldon2 I had a bad motor mount at 50,000 miles in a civic that I purchased new 2017 I’m so disappointed in how people still think it’s reliable

@01trsmar

5 жыл бұрын

@@ScribblyPoppo ..Really ?..I own a few newer Chrysler cars and never had an issue... I put 150,000 -200,000 miles on them and they are fine when I sell them..Right now I have a 100,000 mile Hellcat Challenger that had zero problems...I have 190,000 on my 2011 300 C Hemi and never had any major issues,100% problem free until 140,000 miles my a/c went out !!! I also own a 2017 300S Hemi low miles and ordered a RedEye Hellcat..I also own a 2008 Porsche 911 that the Wife drives but she takes the Hellcat more often911,000 miles on the 911 and the maint already is more than what I spent on the 100,000 mile Hellcat !!!) We also had a brand new 2006 Lexus GS350 that needed a engine in 6 months !!! So tell em how Chrysler sucks ?? Chrysler also wins quality and reliability awards !! Look at the serious recalls Toyota,Honda,Subaru has...Even Ford and GM ..Failing engines,no brakes,random acceleration ,frame rust,bad transmissions,wrong pistons in engines causing failures in Toyota,Honda,Subaru...Oil burning and engine failures in Accord and Civic etc their 4 cyl engines are junk !

@harleyjackson5513

5 жыл бұрын

FCA is junk!

Best explanation I have seen or heard. thanks, from Texas

Yo Alex is pcmr! What's your setup man?

While I think the CAFE standards are stupid (how else could you describe something that has so many loopholes?); I think this is far more related to consumer taste shifting. Low seating position vehicles aren’t selling to an aging population, plus the cuv/suv body style is far more useful.

@mountainhobo

5 жыл бұрын

"Tesla doesn’t seem to have a problem" -- Tesla is a blip on the radar. It's a fashion car for sales and executives, like a Cartier watch. All Tesla sales for 2017 are 50K cars. That's less than 0.3% of the market. Toyota RAV4 sold 8 times (EIGHT times) more vehicles in that one crossover model that the entire Tesla production.

@vitaflo

5 жыл бұрын

@pochoun33137 Electric vehicles don't need to worry about CAFE standards. It's why Chevy is still making the Bolt.

@afcgeo882

5 жыл бұрын

@@vitaflo Electric vehicle design, production and sales are all subsidized by the government. Take away those and the Bolt will be gone, just like the Volt.

@Snadzies

5 жыл бұрын

And the younger audience that would buy sedans and hatchbacks can't afford to because they blew all their money on toilet paper degrees in non binary gender language studies.

@Patchuchan

5 жыл бұрын

@pochoun33137 Tesla's biggest problem is they put too much electronic BS in their cars so they can't make them low cost. The use of telematics is a big turn off for many people as the security and privacy problems with it are starting to come to light.

Wonderful video, Alex. Thanks. Still, I can’t help but notice that Asian carmakers, which are also subject to CAFE, are able to meet its requirements while still building and selling vehicles that aren’t “trucks.” In some ways, David Halberstam’s “The Reckoning” is as true today as it was when it was written. The Big Three were overtaken by first the Japanese and now the Koreans and they are, with a few exceptions, clueless.

@hisownfool1

5 жыл бұрын

@Brian Ross Duh indeed. I bought an Elantra Value Edition in August. I considered cars from VW, Honda, Toyota, and Mazda, along with Hyundai. What never occurred to me was anything from Chevy or Ford.

@afcgeo882

5 жыл бұрын

CAFE isn't at all in play here. The Japanese are feeling CAFE pressure just as much. Look at Subaru for example. They're rolling out hybrids now and killing turbos and H6s all-around. The new Forester 0-60 is over 10 seconds because of CAFE regs. Honda is having problems with their 1.5 turbo engines on the CRV, Accord and Civic because of CAFE. That's absolutely killing their sales world-wide right now. As Alex mentioned, the Japanese are sticking 3rd rows into every CUV they have to get around this. The Rogue has one in the U.S., CRV already got one in Europe/Asia and Toyota is talking about fitting one to the new RAV4 in the next few years as well. Those 3rd rows are absolutely useless and kill lots of cargo space. The issue here is profitability in a market where people are switching from mid-size family sedans to compact CUVs. Rav4 now outsells the Camry. Rogue outsells the Altima. CRV outsells the Accord. That's what's happening.

@rodneyhammon1793

5 жыл бұрын

hisownfool1 - You hit the nail right on the head! They are clueless!

@buckhorncortez

5 жыл бұрын

You might be surprised at the real sales numbers. For the past 5 years, Camry sales have been declining. Currently, Toyota is selling about 28K per month. Ford was selling more of the Fusion and Focus than that - and the numbers don't work to continue with new model updates.

@mylexicon2

5 жыл бұрын

CAFE more or less pretends that the US is a mercantile empire and a resource-restricted economy; therefore, Americans can't afford to pay for fuel, and fuel imports are destructive. That's not how America works. That is exactly how Asia works, and Europe, to a lesser extent. No surprise European and Japanese auto manufacturers have taken over the US market. The Big 3 could have done a better job responding to the threats, but when the demands of the government are completely divergent from the reality of life in America, is it really worth the struggle?

Always spot on. Thanks for posting.

That’s a very well thought out idea. You are probably correct. Thanks. I quite enjoyed your thoughts on the matter. (From a Canadian)

Yeah, in THEORY, they could build something with better economy than its sedan equivalent. But who are we kidding? This is GM, the company that seems to thrive on doing everything half-assed. I find it hilarious that the government came up with this idea to increase fuel economy and the manufacturers have found the loophole to exploit, meaning worse fuel economy for everyone.

I seriously hate it for the employees of GM but I will be glad to see "Government Motors" go away. Our Government under Obama rule should never have bailed them out in the first place. I didn't get to vote on that, did any of you? I am not supposed to be paying taxes so some companies can get federal handouts. GM was no different than giving money to someone else that has not learned to be responsible, they just wasted more money because Obama gave it to them to waste. I am sure that most everybody knows someone that has a good paying job yet they can't get ahead in life due to the way they spend money needlessly. GM is like that but they are a company instead of being a single person. They should have been allowed to fail and we should not have had to pay for their management's poor decisions.

@jmjfanss

5 жыл бұрын

damn right.

@lawnmowermanlawnmowerman9930

5 жыл бұрын

And you are a fool if you don't realize that GM failing would have killed off hundreds of other companies that depend on contracts with GM to survive. That would have put hundreds of thousands of people out of work,maybe even killed off some cities across the nation.

@t.k.morris

5 жыл бұрын

@@lawnmowermanlawnmowerman9930 So when you opened up your new lawn mower business , you based all of your income and tools on the needs of one yard that you cut?

@lawnmowermanlawnmowerman9930

5 жыл бұрын

@@t.k.morris Didn't need to do anything but let folks know I'm open for business,my prior experience and expertise in autos and farm equipment preceded me and brought in more business than I could handle. Never needed to advertise,word of mouth took care of that.

@t.k.morris

5 жыл бұрын

@@lawnmowermanlawnmowerman9930 My point was whether or not you based everything on one customer as you indicated about all the businesses that would fail because GM did. And yes like you, they would not fail also because they had more clientele to get business from. Like saying "Don't put all of your eggs in just one basket"

Brilliantly said and clearly informative

Great video. I never thought about the regulations.

Just lift the Cruze a few inches and call it a "crossover."

I wonder how many of these GM jobs are moving abroad? Ironic that even Volvo is now making vehicles here and our own GM and Ford are gonna import more of their vehicles.

Alex, I love your videos and all but god damn, can I make your theme sound / ending sound? It just kills my years.

What's the point of keeping the CAFE standards the same in the USA if auto manufactures will only find loopholes to get around them?

The European, Japanese and Koreans cars will continue with sedans though.

@mountainhobo

5 жыл бұрын

For now. RAV4 has already overtaken the Camry in sales numbers in the US, and that was _before_ the new RAV4 hybrid was announced. Expect that gap to widen.

@01trsmar

5 жыл бұрын

Toyota is stopping U.S production of the Avalon and Yaris !! A few others too !

@thatredmanguy

5 жыл бұрын

I know for a fact non-luxury large sedan, subcompact city cars, MPVs, and some station wagons are being replaced by crossovers in North America, Europe, and Australasia.

@lawnmowermanlawnmowerman9930

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah,and my son's company will continue to scrap them.

@tylerd6136

5 жыл бұрын

not for long. this is not about people buying suvs or trucks, its not even about sedans, its not about market forces etc. the nesw of the century are happening now and we are all in the dark as to what is really happening that they have planned and are implementing

We live in sad times

Very interesting. I wonder how this strategy will go over given the recent news regarding climate change. Thank you.

Interesting, thanks

Killed off 15k jobs too

If GM cannot build a gasoline powered sedan that people want to buy, what makes GM think that there will be a greater demand for an electric powered GM sedan? Their build quality, performance, and engineering are crap. I wouldn't expect great success by GM in electric vehicles. They are slowly reorganizing themselves out of existence.

This video style is poppin Alex

I guess adding a hybrid option is too difficult to those on the chopping block?

American taxpayers saved GM a few years ago. Now GM pays us back!

@mountainhobo

5 жыл бұрын

They are selling what people want. Is producing something that people don't want to buy a way to "pay us back"? What are you talking about?

@karolusmagnus7844

5 жыл бұрын

mountainhobo : I talking about making cars that people don't buy and moving production overseas.

@mountainhobo

5 жыл бұрын

I don't understand the first part, and what does the second part have to do with the topic of the video?

@mountainhobo

5 жыл бұрын

"they are NOT selling what people want!!!!" -- Want is in pocket books, not in big talk. People are buying crossovers and SUVs, but apparently you know that is not what they really want. Okay.

@harleyjackson5513

5 жыл бұрын

Absolutely! GM is screwing the taxpayers. FCA is now foreign owned. FORD never took Bailout money and is American owned! FORD will have my Business!

My next car will be Japanese.

@bassistdc

5 жыл бұрын

My current car is South Korean (Kia) as will be my next one.

@normt5463

5 жыл бұрын

Who buys sedans?!

@wladicus1

5 жыл бұрын

_ @@normt5463 - I do ... hahahahaha ...Don't really care for those x-over designs. _ Wouldn't mind seeing more station wagon designs, like my 1960s VW station wagon - was a great handling, fuel economy working class car - and the price was really great!!!

@stephenhendricks103

5 жыл бұрын

@@normt5463 About a third of all auto purchasers in the US.

@Omfcody1

5 жыл бұрын

All cars I have owned have been Japanese and I have no regrets.

Rumor has it, 2020 Gen 6 4Runner will have hybrid option, will we see hybrid Silverado in the next gen?

Totally agree with you Alex my question to you is do you think the Asian brands will slowly discontinue sedans or at least slow production and who I’m talking about is your typical Toyota Honda and Nissan in Subaru because remember Subaru still has the legacy?

This will leave the Dodge Charger the last America big sedan.

@harleyjackson5513

5 жыл бұрын

And it is a huge pos!

@glennso47

5 жыл бұрын

I thought Chrysler was shifting the production of their sedans out of the US.

@harleyjackson5513

5 жыл бұрын

They are and will likely stop production.

@glennso47

5 жыл бұрын

Harley Jackson They recently stopped producing the Dodge Dart and shifted production to the Jeep Cherokee.

@bodyloverz30

5 жыл бұрын

@@glennso47 But what about the Chrysler 300?

Why are they blaming GM for closing the plants when it is due to the American car buyers buying models coming in from overseas. You expect the manufacturer to keep investing in running these factories when it is the Americans themselves who are pulling back. Support your industry instead of just moaning about the Japanese and Europeans.

@jimmy5634

5 жыл бұрын

Sorry dude, it's my money and I'm buying cars I want, not subsidizing a bad manufacturer just because they are America-based. Your attitude reflects what is wrong in America today., paying for someone else's lack of productivity in the form of welfare. I have owned more than a half dozen GM vehicles in my life and none measured up to my Honda's or Kia's.

@JB-yb4wn

5 жыл бұрын

Well no. They are buying foreign models made in the US. BMW's largest plant is in South Carolina.

More videos like these on top of your excellent reviews.

Thanks for explaining the ridiculous CAFE standards and their unintended consequences.

The American Big 3 are well known for pursuing short sighted trends and profits rather than long term goals. They are self fulfilling prophets, no one wants to but their sedans because they are that bad. Bring back something like the Panther-body, and sales would likely come back in.

I don't only think it's CAFE, but also declining sedan sales as well. The Cruze wasn't really a standout in the compact car segment, nor the LaCrosse (poor materials and build for a "luxury" car), the Impala was very medicore and priced out of the traditional Impala buyer. CT6 was very low volume despite being actually decent. GM also isn't killing all sedans but rather is probably going to consolidate and focus on making the best vehicles they can in the respective segment. You also have rising steel and aluminum prices due to tariffs. CAFE maybe the final straw that broke the camel's back, but it's a myriad of factors that caused this.

@future62

5 жыл бұрын

Don't know if this was a fair criticism. Is the Cruze any less mediocre than the Corolla? Is the Lacrosse any worse than something like a Maxima or Avalon it competes with? Fact of the matter is GM's sedans have never been more competitive; they are just getting killed by GM's dead brand equity.

@theshinobi01

5 жыл бұрын

@@future62 It's all in the sales figures. Corollas sell a TON and the Civic too. Easily double the amount of the Cruze. It's scale of economies. The Cruze wasn't bad but it didn't offer anything new to the segment. And given how sedans are falling by the wayside, making another run of the mill sedan isn't going to help your case. LaCrosse again is mediocre and doesn't sell well. GM's attempts are unfortunately a little too late. They had way too many convoluted and too much market penetration eating into its own bottom line. Again the killing of these models is a late but good attempt to refocus their efforts onto making a few good models, and not making 100 medicore/subpar models. Why do you not see Toyota or Honda just killing off sedans left and right? They sell well enough to justify their cost. They don't overcrowd their lineup and trod on their own toes. Car companies are in the business of making $$$. And Honda has even halted new Accord production as there are too many. All I can say is at least GM is coming to it's senses and closing factories that probably shouldn't have even existed in the first place. Also this isn't anything new Ford announced an end to all sedans, Chrysler killed the Dart and 200 a few years back. The segment overall isn't doing well and the weakest links are crumbling.

@future62

5 жыл бұрын

Mike Wu I think your last sentence hit the nail on the head. And week is very subjective. Again all of GMs mainstream sedans are competitive. Definitely no worse than Nissan or Hyundai. But they just can't sell them profitably. For what it's worth all the non Toyota/Honda foreign companies are doing just as bad in this space. They just have more margin to play with

@afcgeo882

5 жыл бұрын

Correction: it's not CAFE at all. If anything, CAFE standards would push manufacturers into making more sedans, hatchbacks and wagons and less CUVs and SUVs, which are less fuel efficient. You'd see the return of station wagons with third rows. GM is killing ALL sedans in the North American market.

@afcgeo882

5 жыл бұрын

@@future62 You're absolutely correct about that. In China, where GM's brand name doesn't carry decades and decades worth of bad reputation, GM sells a TON of all types of vehicles. Buicks sell more than any other brand! They sell for a very hefty profit. Here, in the US, people only know about the reputation and are so slow to change or read about current facts that they simply don't know that GM products are just as reliable as anything else. That kills new cars sales to a degree and it certainly kills resale values.

So Chevrolet is cancelling the Cruze but keeping the Spark and the Sonic??? How does that make any sense???

If Crossovers are selling so well, why did Toyota have trouble selling its Venza? Honda's direct competitor to the Venza was also axed the Crosstour. I see people buying econo-box Kia's and Hynudai's small cars Corollas and Civics mid size cars Accords and Camrys Vans Caravan Odyssey and Sienna mostly, Crossovers Rav4's CRV's and Ford Escapes. Brand new full size Trucks I see the most of all makes and large SUV's loaded with all the options.

Nobody is buying their sedans

@stevefranklin8052

5 жыл бұрын

That's a lie. Some people, not many, but some are!!!.

Excellent insight. I better hurry up and buy the CT6 before it disappears.

@bradleycross

5 жыл бұрын

Going to be some crazy good deals on Ford and GM sedans middle to late next year

My compact Toyotas from 20-25 years ago had more room inside (and had proper stick) than my mid-size Toyota today because today I have acres of pointless grey plastic center console that takes space away from my right knee, and I have a lethargic automatic transmission to boot. Who wants that? If I don't want a contorted driving position I have to buy a crossover or a minivan these days. So be it. I just wish they would make one with a stick.

I like these types of videos

Sounds good but I'd say it's to keep money for the CEOs and their bonuses for the end of the year.

Now’s a good time to buy a Dodge Charger.

@ChickenC0re

5 жыл бұрын

Chrysler is making deals on them, there are plenty of aftermarket parts, and most of the bugs have been ironed out by now. The local dealership is selling a new Chrysler 300 for $22k. Where else can you buy a large sedan for that kind of money?

@GigginQuick

5 жыл бұрын

Wow! That’s a very good price for a Chrysler 300. I got a 3 year old used 300 for $20k and the original MSRP was $37k. Somebody took a $17,000 loss on that car.

@01trsmar

5 жыл бұрын

@@GigginQuick ...You always look around for a car,pricing varies and never pay msrp !! Even for Japanese cars,never !! You lose big on Honda's and Toyota's too..Buy one at msrp,the go try to trade it in you lose $10,000 right away !

@harleyjackson5513

5 жыл бұрын

No FCA junk in my driveway!

@GigginQuick

5 жыл бұрын

Harley Jackson Mopar or No Car!

When does pooled ownership/fleet subscription come into play...?

Are you going to do an XT4 Review?

It seems they are wasting a lot of money of electric vehicles that most people don't want. My Ford Taurus uses less gas than my 2009 Honda CRV

@fycfyc1

5 жыл бұрын

but honda probably sell 100 crvs for every taurus

@glennso47

5 жыл бұрын

And probably more reliable than a Tesla

@Membrane556

5 жыл бұрын

The Bolt cost about $36,000 but is based on a Spark so they're trying to hawk an economy car for the price of an entry level luxury sedan that is why is does not sell. Killing their gasoline cars and laying off their workers will only farther harm sales due to the bad PR it creates. People will buy a Prius,a Tesla, or even a Nissan Leaf instead. Toyota,Nissan, Honda and Tesla,VW,and FCA should all thank Mary Barra for all the business she sent their way.

@frankspeaking2630

5 жыл бұрын

@Brian Ross Tesla is still ramping production of Model 3 and in Q3 it was no 4 in US Sedan sales (ALL sedans) and the highest revenue earner, Tesla M3 sales were not limited by demand but by supply

@frankspeaking2630

5 жыл бұрын

@Brian Ross Tesla M3 sales were not limited by demand but by supply

It look like gm is going to be on ford route.

@harleyjackson5513

5 жыл бұрын

FORD is building the new Ranger in the U.S.!

@rayt5520

4 жыл бұрын

and fiat, honda and Toyota all want out of sedan market all want to cocentrate on suv/truck market more profitable cost, profit, parts, service .

How long for the gov't to catch on and close this loophole?

interesting take on the closings, i figured the closings had to do with wages, poor sales and it was cool to see the AoA office.

I like my Chevy Impala Sedan

@kendrahwhyte9816

5 жыл бұрын

Cosimo Kramarawicz ❤

@bodyloverz30

5 жыл бұрын

@@kendrahwhyte9816 The only full size domestic rent-a-car, you can rent.

Wow rip sedans from GM and Ford

@afcgeo882

5 жыл бұрын

Don't forget FCA! Their only remaining sedan will soon be the Dodge Charger/Chrysler 300. By the way, Chrysler now makes just two models: 300 and Pacifica. Dodge may be adding a 3-row compact CUV on the Cherokee platform, to replace the Journey. With Jeep's expansion into larger SUVs, it's likely Dodge will drop the Durango or it will take away sales from the Jeep Wagoneer.

@XDM10

5 жыл бұрын

@@afcgeo882 I heard fiat will be discontinuing the 300 as well.

@afcgeo882

5 жыл бұрын

@@XDM10 The company hasn't said it's discontinuing it, but there are hints that it might. I don't like speculation.

@afcgeo882

5 жыл бұрын

@@XDM10 Keeping the Charger, if it is well updated, may make sense from the fleet sales standpoint alone. Police departments across the country are right now scratching their heads at what to do about their his speed pursuit cruisers, especially for highway patrol use. The Taurus is going away, taking the Police Interceptor Sedan with it. GM is killing off the Impala and the Chevy SS is already gone. The only large sedan that fits the use is the Charger. The Police Interceptor based on the Explorer is a solid all-around vehicle, but large departments can't just have one vehicle because of recall or other issues and it isn't very good for high speed duties. There's been talk of outfitting the Edge for police duties and my local department has been replacing some Taurus unmarked sedans with Edges. The Edge in question has the twin turbo V-6 and is faster than the CVPI, while more agile than the Taurus-based cruiser. However, the Charger will still be seen as the "go to". That might save it, at least short-term.

@harleyjackson5513

5 жыл бұрын

George L, Law enforcement officers love the Explorer. The Edge actually sounds like it is a great replacement for the Taurus or Charger. The Charger has proven to be very unreliable.

One of those factories, is the factory in Oshawa Ontario. And everyone (including me) is pissed about it

I don't think the majority of cars are purchased but leased. Especially when the majority of middle class consumers do not want to repair their vehicles. Hence young families lease the family crossover and evolve into the other models as the kids drive. In other words the concept of American vehicle ownership has evolved towards the high end consumer who always wants the latest and greatest. I'm a consumer who has owned the same Honda SUV since 2004 but I only drive it 500 miles a month and use the family sedan for most short trips. What do you think Alex about how Americans now own the same new vehicle for less than five years?

Yayyyy G70!

The other reason GM killed the sedan: Greed. #GreedyMotors

@ConestogaCreek

5 жыл бұрын

lollybrant - LOL greed is why business exists.

While I will not miss some of these cars, I really do hate to see the XTS, CT6 and Volt go. One car that I was surprised not to see included on this list was the ATS Coupe because I never see them on the road so I can't imagine many people are buying them. I really hate to see GM abandoning cars but what you said about this being at least partially in response to CAFE makes sense.

Good video. Unrelated but are those dual 29 or 34 inch monitors? Sales were never great on GM sedans but CAFE standards sure didn't help.

So no reason to buy GM, again.

@moeanthony9308

5 жыл бұрын

Was there ever a reason?

@normt5463

5 жыл бұрын

@@moeanthony9308 Sure, continuing paying that Toyota Tax!

@afcgeo882

5 жыл бұрын

Actually, their CUVs, SUVs and pick-ups have always been their best products, so now there's even more reason to buy GM.

@harleyjackson5513

5 жыл бұрын

FORD never took Bailout money from the U.S. taxpayer. All FORD trucks sold in the U.S. are built in the U.S.. FORD is also building the new Ranger and soon the new Bronco in the U.S.! GM took Taxpayer money. GM will be building the Blazer in Mexico. FORD will be my next truck. GM has screwed the taxpayers!

@moeanthony9308

5 жыл бұрын

@@normt5463 Happily, less time in the garage. Thanks for the kind statement.

American cars have lost the market for two main reasons: 1- More than necessary emphasis on the exterior design than the interior design and quality. At the end of the day driver and passengers sit inside the car for hours a day or week, and they deserve a vibrant and quality environment. Just compare the interior design and the multi-tone soft touch materials used in the dash of Japanese sedans, and compare it with most Ford, GM, and FCA products. For American cars we always need to go to more expensive higher trims to get something we can get in lower trims in Japanese cars. For most FCA products such as Dodge products, there is no multi tone option at all. 2- American cars are no longer American. Where are those spacious two-door comfortable Thunderbird, Impala, etc.? All Benz, BMW, VW, Honda, Hyundai, are still manufacturing the two-door version of their non-sporty cars? What is the GM’s competition to Civic, Upcoming Supra, etc.? Switching to more expensive crossovers and SUVs is not the solution for the Big Three. They will even lose this market in next two or three decades unless they change their attitude towards the quality products with reasonable price.

@01trsmar

5 жыл бұрын

Time for you to research FCA products...They were the 1st with lots of technology and Dodge cars and Chrysler 300/Pacifica have multi color interiors !! Hell,my 2011 300C has multi color interior !! Chrysler products were on of the 1st with infotainment systems !! You like most are ignorant to what Chrysler/Dodge sells..I dont blame you they dont advertise them so its their fault !!! Back to your #2,GM has the Camaro ,Honda doesnt have a car to compete with it..Corvette would compete with teh upcoming Supra ! Camaro and Corvette are 2 doors ! Ford has the 2 door Mustang and Dodge has the 2 door Challenger..The Viper was cancelled due to C.A.F.E standards !

@MaestroTJS

5 жыл бұрын

@@01trsmar FCA is garbage, the worst of the Big Three. The only reason they stay afloat at all is due to Jeep and Ram. I'll agree they stepped up their interiors BIG TIME though, much better than what you'll see in Ford or Chevy. (Cadillacs, however, are very nice inside.)

Is the ratio of sedan to "truck" sales consistent across the manufacturers? By observation, it seems that the sedans are primarily imports. I wonder if the issue is more product offering vs consumer tastes ... Also, with closing manufacturing plans, one would assume that GM will be producing less vehicles. To me, this is a bigger deal than changing up the product mix.

I want to buy an American Made car in 2019. So should I get a Honda or Toyota?

@EMichaelBall

5 жыл бұрын

Neither. The yield curve inverted, yesterday, which is a historical sign of a coming recession. You should immediately cut back on spending to pay off debts (especially credit cards and car loans) and stockpile cash in the bank, in preparation for a recession and potential joblessness.

After years of ever increasing foreign car imports you just witnessed the end of the American car!

In the eyes of the consumer, both the Ford cars and the GM cars that are being eliminated, can't compete with the likes of Honda Accord, Toyota Camry, Civic, Corolla, and to a smaller extent the Mazda 6 and 3. Yes those brands are seeing erosion of their "cars" in favor of SUV's as well, but the sales numbers have not dropped to the level of some of these GM cars. And the price of these GM cars have reached a point where the average middle class american can't afford these "new" cars. Also their prices (buick and cadillac) begin to touch upon luxury brands, so why no get a German luxury car instead. In this case it's cache that wins out.

Ohhhhhhhh........thanks for that insight, Alex.

You are right on target with your assessment of the GM moves. We have a Bolt.

Chevy is such a copy cat , worst idea ever

This just bothers me to my core. Its my fault. I buy a new car every 7 or 8 years and it's pretty cheap (2006 malibu maxx $18k went 200k miles: 2012 cruze $20k has gone 150k miles ). But its a car its what i want . If only i had no common sense and wanted to buy fully loaded cars every two years this wouldn't be happening.

@afcgeo882

5 жыл бұрын

So what you're saying is... they sold you cars at such low prices that they made ZERO profit on them and made them durable, so you don't buy them often anyway and you're wondering why they, as businesses, wouldn't want to do that? Think about it some more.

I worked years ago on an assembly line for the Northstar engine, I am sorta sad.

@williscurry6557

5 жыл бұрын

What a disaster that motor was. They knew it was bad & kept making it 16 more model years. Then put the last few into the Buick Lacrsse.

Steel tariffs also add to this. Let's see how this will affect SUVS on the long run.