I've never played StarCraft in my life but damn if a single player made them double the cooldown on an ability....

@azentra7560

Жыл бұрын

And half the damage on the ability in a later patch because he was still dominating with them😂

@rozmarinideas5340

Жыл бұрын

To be fair, the ability makes them basically uncatchable if you're a micro God like Byun. He's STILL good with them

@yemen242

11 ай бұрын

Oh you've never seen Serral. He got the entire Zerg race nerfed

@andrejchalas6799

11 ай бұрын

​@@yemen242several times

@Cookie_n.666

10 ай бұрын

and halved its damage

Imagine if this man's wrists weren't garbage. It was god's way of balancing his OP micro.

@sgtsaldl

11 ай бұрын

He has bad wrists? that's insane with the level he plays on

@GruppeSechs

11 ай бұрын

@@sgtsaldl I'm sure the two things are related.

@glados4765

11 ай бұрын

It's so sad watching him dominate and then have to forfeit because his wrists start to give out.

@mckendrick7672

11 ай бұрын

​@@sgtsaldlIt's a mental thing - he does fine in online tournaments but in offline tournaments he gets worked up because he's on camera.

@meow-mi333

11 ай бұрын

He’s still my favourite, then Gumiho

Man that wrist injury of ByuN's is such a bummer. He's already playing pretty great with it that one can only imagine what kind of a beast he will be without it. Nevertheless he still one of my favorite terran players alongside Maru and Clem.

@anthonnyminanotacanga5399

11 ай бұрын

Gumiho is good!

@tiagomota4734

10 ай бұрын

Play BW If you are a man not this ...girly thing

@TheRogueminator

10 ай бұрын

LOL! Nostalgia butthurt much?@@tiagomota4734

@archwaldo

10 ай бұрын

the wrist injury is more of a mental than a physical thing for ByuN. his wrist hurts during live matches on-stage, but he's alright in online tournaments.

Also as Tasteless said, "And they heal!!" However, if I'm not mistaken, the day before the nerf arrived, Byun try the mass Reaper style against Rogue, but this time the opponent has already a counter for it. So the mass reaper era closed it curtain with a loss. But true that, Byun's micro is still godly even with the nerfed reaper. Let's hope his wrist injury will heal, just like his favorite unit.

@CodeNameLL

Жыл бұрын

The weist injury is pain to watch especially when he's in a winning position and gets rurned over. I hope he can go get a proper check up andaybe do some physical therapy.

@JohnhaighS

11 ай бұрын

that is why I hate that nerf

Artosis: why cant reapers shoot up? Tasteless: they can if they lie on their back

@mwperk02

11 ай бұрын

Mira Han: I like the way you think.

He's BYUNBELIEVABLE!

Ahh yes.. I remember seeing Byun for the first time in Lowko's channel and that reaper control is just so good.. tossing multiple grenades, microing to put low health units behind, even managing to juggle a queen out of the crypt killing it in the process..

Midgame? There is no midgame.

2016 Byun was the most exciting esports story that I followed. He will always be my favorite SC2 player.

I was there live, if you can see his monitor while micro controlling reapers. His monitor will trigger episode of epilepsy I can say. Thats how his monitor changes. We were not allowed to take video of it. 😢

@HrHaakon

11 ай бұрын

You can just download a replay pack, and follow his camera.

I don't watch competitive Starcraft games, but seeing somebody dominate with one of my favorite units just puts a massive smile on my face. Love me a Reaper game~

Something else about how far ahead Byun was in reaper control... when Byun was winning GSL with his reapers, Maru tried to copy him in a Bo7 for the first three games, losing all three. Then he just played normally and won.

There's few things cooler than when you're so good at what you do the rules literally have to be changed to give the other players a chance. Like how the NBA had to make several rule changes to account for Shaq.

Bro the loop is seamless

Remember when they did 30 damage to buildings?

@krzysztofputerko1943

11 ай бұрын

ye, but they didn't have their push grenades back then so they were much worse to micro

It is not the only nerf, this unit used to do bonus damage against light units and also used explosives against buildings instead of his guns.

I saw the title and just said Byun to my self

He got reapers nerfed three times in one year. The unit was written off by the community as a trash unit too. The following year blizzard nerfed reapers a fourth time, albeit tiny. ByuN isn't called Micro Jackson for no reason.

This unit had it coming a loooong time, can't understand it took Byun to pretty much rolfstomp a tourney for people to realise

I'd argue Uthermal had a hand in it he was a monster.

@aaabatteries9948

11 ай бұрын

Uthermal claims that he came up with this build but its a lie. Almost all builds (that werent trash) came from Koreans.

@Ynox54321

11 ай бұрын

@@aaabatteries9948 He can still have come up with it. Get this: The wheel was invented in different places of the world. Same goes for swords, spears and bows. Or houses. Craaaazy, I know.

@aaabatteries9948

11 ай бұрын

@@Ynox54321How are you comparing the wheel to a starcraft 2 build order? They are completely 2 entirely different things?! And by that logic i can just copy someone's work or ideas to the letter and just say i came up with it as well? There's a reason things get patented or licensed so other people can't do this.

@skychaos87

11 ай бұрын

@@Ynox54321 I also thought of the MMO concept like World of Warcraft before blizzard made it. But in the end its Blizzard who made it and got the world knowing about it and playing it. Of course anyone can think of something, i'm sure there must already be someone who thought of the build even before Byun and Uthermal, but its Byun who made it work at the highest level possible. Even if Uthermal thought of it, his version and control is not as good as Byun he might not get the same level of success for the build to be this popular back then and got Blizzard to nerf it.

Imagine you are so good at something that you single handedly force a nerf. Insane

@azentra7560

11 ай бұрын

So good that at something that you single handedly force a nerf, twice.

What a great StarCraft short

Un-Nerfed reapers is like spawning 2 units for the price of 1

This guy's micro is insane

Memba when you could kill off a pool with 6 reapers? Pepperidge Farms remembers.

uthermal is a killer with these units too

Oooh it repeats seamless.

Threaper opening still sees play

And to think that this was already the reaper in a nerfed state, so they just ended up nerfing them more. Rip +Light and anti building damage.

hahaha Marc has entered the chat

Byun is a God amongst mortals when it comes to Terran Micro

good loop is good

Man, blowing himself up to prevent a total surround was some cool shit

He's also responsible for the +5 health buff added to Centrifugal Hooks after popularizing the notion that with decent micro, you can just shred the banelings after Stim is finished.

@mwperk02

11 ай бұрын

I remember when blizzard wanted itto be a plus 10 hp buff. Absolutely insane.

It's like AWP with KennyS

I really appreciate that sc2 is balanced from the top down, showing people that things are good because of ehat they can be and not because of your own personal ability

Byun also arguably got the sieged Siege Tank Medivac pickup nerfed. That’s how he won GSL

@user-pe6ct7ut8t

11 ай бұрын

Thats definitly not a 1 player impact such as for reapers.

Honestly if these matches weren't recorded nobody would believe them

This is why he deserves the nickname micro jackson

Nah, reapers were nerfed because they dominated 95% of TvX games. At one point, a top korean lost to a foreign terran in a TvT, despite there being very obvious differences in skill. Shortly thereafter, it was nerfed. It was dominating the meta in all Terran matchups. To this day, reaper openers are still the most common build in all terran matchups.

let's not forget about Thermie

StarCraft :D

Not only is he responsible for it getting nerfed, but responsible for it getting nerfed three separate times

Oracle unit was nerfed by the same reason. But nobody nerfed Forge rush since Starcraft 1.

"GOD DAMN IT! BYUN IS GONNA GET REAPERS NERFED AGAIN!" - Winters

How is this game for the casual player? I remember grinding sc2 when I was 14 and reaching around diamond. Im 27 now and wonder if it’s still worth getting into it just for casual ranked matches

Trust me it wasn't just that one guy

Yeah I don't know how reapers were allowed to exist like that in the first place. Same with when they had a high damage attack vs structures. It was obvious how much of a problem they were even before in my opinion.

The best thing for me is : Even after the nerf, he still used them. AHAHAHA

balancing must go back, at least 3 years.

All the comments saying uthermal, but not a single mention of the original nerf forced by Morrow when reapers were actually unstoppable for z

Just like swan said They’re seriously badass

Wait, but I see reapers on almost all competitive starcraft games yet

Rainbow Six siege nerfed a fundamental game mechanic (leaning to the side) because of 1 player (Beaulo), affecting how everyone takes gunfights

I mean Serral and Reynor got zerg nerfed into the ground like 3 years in a row

yeah when the "pros" fuck the scene up for mortals like me..

Also you didn't mention he is famous for Micro Jackson

simple fix is nerf the movement speed then make the jet pack ability researchable. once complete we get the reaper were familiar with.

@krzysztofputerko1943

11 ай бұрын

it would kill the unit completely. Reapers are only strong at the beginning of the game and they fall off very quickly making jetpacks researchable would mean that you don't have enough time with them to make that quick GG. And if you fail your reaper cheese than you can GG yourself

Ruff, for one, does amasing things with reapers. and ghosts and banshees and hellions and battlecruisers and planetary fortresses Watch Ruff

when the players skill was the issue not the unit itself. yet they still keep the nerfs.

This is not true and has never been true While Byun may have been the best at it many other Terran players had great success in abusing reapers back in 2016. Uthermal famously won his one and only premier tournament by getting drawn into the zerg heavy side of the bracket and proceeding to 3 rax reaper all of them

Honestly the cooldown is not a nerf yes less use but once you get 14 reapers it matters not on using the ability 1 sec in rotation with all reapers plus its more as a buff longer cooldown mean more energy regen even though less use. Damage in it was never a thing either I played SC2 when it come out we used them for their dps.

This is the sort of design philosophy that killed this game

Byun still doing this to this day. You gotta build a certain way to stop it. Don't ask me how to build gotta ask players dark, maru, Chem, hero, hero marine, etc.

So... basically they removed them from being competitive for everyone else in an attempt to nerf the person who specializes with them. An they still failed.

They still make a lot of reapers, apparently the nerfs werent enough

it's a cool story and all but i'm fairly certain that every single person playing live service games or games that have updates that include nerfs, have been a victim of that one f#cking guy exploiting a single mechanic and it's the other 99.999999999% of people that have to just accept it.

Okay, where are my husbandos

But the entire Zerg race has to get nerfed again and again to keep Serral down.

if the game is nerfed just because of you, thats like the devs admitting you're the best in the world

byun

Then there's Serral and roaches.

@mwperk02

11 ай бұрын

Is thatwhy my roaches dont regen faster anymore?

OFC it was b'cuz of the Micro Jackson, what would you expect

i remember when i was a kid i 1v1my that iwas a zerg and i love spamming the 2 creatures per egg i forgot what name it is but yea i spam them them and this littary happen my that just using reapers or jet pack dudes as what i call them :D also i lost that round as always

550+APM..

There is a bit more context to this that people not in the scene may not realize. Blizzard is quick to nerf Terran units even when only one player makes them look overpowered. Clearly we have the Byun reapers, but we also have the Maru ravens. I can't remember seeing Blizzard being so quick to nerf an overpowered unit that another race, say Zerg, uses

@krzysztofputerko1943

11 ай бұрын

I think it's mainly because terran benefits the most from micro-heavy gameplay. Meaning that strong units in other races don't break the game that hard because microing them perfectly doesn't give that much of an advantage

Thought that was a halo grunt

looking at the new Blizzard did to diablo series, i doubt a good starcraft will be coming out.

You cant nerf a players skill

Micro Jackson

Nerfed the unit, as the top zergs were already doing great against it. That is how on top of things blizzard is.

Half of the Zerg army got nerfed multiple times over thanks to Serral 😂

Micro jackson

Reapers were so spud until Byun. Ketrock maybe was the one that got Ravens, OP for years on the ladder, nerfed. Finally. Lol.

The only nerf he got is his wirst

Changing the game based on the one player is a bad idea

@nebei3740

10 ай бұрын

Thats wrong if high skill stuff is op people will exclusively learn the mechanics around it disregarding other mechanics since focusing on the op stuff will give you more of an competetive adcantage and that is very unhealthy for the game and community. If stuff like this doesnt get dealt with fast enough poeple will get mad as more people reach the skill lvl to pull it off and when it eventually gets nerfed the people that invested so much time focusing on the mechanics that are now more ore less useless are mad.

Like the master uThermal

They need to Nerf Byun

... this is why i dont do pvp..... When you straight up cheese it, its never fun I like challenges but cheese and cheating (theres a difference) ruins fun....

Reapers aren't good against 5 roach opening.

dont def. atk base also while building def structures in the mine. so sad the philippines not interested in sc anymore. when sc1 came out. here in the ph would play everyday with other people. sc2 come out. people not interested. you want to change the game? make all miners start from 4 only.

its get 2 times nerfed because of Byun.

That's the reason why cybersports sucks. Games shouldn't be balanced around 800 GMs

Naw those are terminators

저그유저로서 개빡치네

JPBs are cooler

Stop posting so many shorts oh my god

no not from ONE single player but from a few for sure

@ricardovalle960

Жыл бұрын

Yes it was him only that cause the nerf. He almost never lost with reapers.

SC2 sucks !!! Long live SC1 !!!!

so much fun, a hyper micro heavy game, who actually enjoys starcraft?

@rozmarinideas5340

Жыл бұрын

What? The micro is part of the fun.

@koushuu

Жыл бұрын

@@rozmarinideas5340 It's just his way of saying "skill issue" to himself

@bittersweet4074

11 ай бұрын

"omg this game is so hard and it's because people are so good in it, I don't want to improve myself but let's whinning" Translated by ChatGPT-4.0

@unowno123

11 ай бұрын

So much malding in the comments Just because you play a lame game doesnt mean being good at it makes it worthwhile Id never waste my life trying to learn a dying game

@unowno123

11 ай бұрын

@adolfhitler-by2qx nice profile picture buddy