This video is the confirmation of what I already thought. I own an umarex hdr 50 boosted to 16 joules all paid for only 120 euros. When I met this Byrna I thought it was something more effective and instead thanks to you I had the confirmation that in addition to not being valid for self-defense it is unnecessarily expensive. The non-lethal defense pistol does not exist, unfortunately those who want a valid defense pistol must buy a minimum firearm of caliber 22. Thank you guys!

@JimmyWalls-ib7nl

Ай бұрын

Now try the grimburg gavle!

Thanks so much; I have been thinking about getting one of these for my wife, but you just changed my mind! Thank you again.

@turncoat_tactical

2 жыл бұрын

No problem. I wouldn’t want someone I love relaying this!

Yes, thank you. I was about to order one on Amazon, not now after watching your demonstration. Very helpful video.

@turncoat_tactical

2 жыл бұрын

I was very disappointed! I was hoping it would have been awesome. The only people who seem to have an issue with this video are those who are lying to themselves at how ineffective the byrna is. Stay safe!

Best review I've seen yet! You guys actually knew how to use the thing, used it not nude, and didn't shoot pepper / max balls as attackers carrying plywood boards like in every other Byrna sponsored review. You proved this, like many others in its class to be fair, are very accurate and expensive repeating slingshots. It is a fun toy thought.

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!! It was what I set out to show. I really did have high hopes for this. But, it proved me wrong! I said the very same thing, people don’t carry wood boards with them! Thanks again. Stay safe!

@ronsorrentino6207

2 жыл бұрын

I completely agree, And I sure as hell for that kind of money, for even one third the money, wouldn't get or recommend it. Because it DOES NOT WORK! In fact, my brother, who lives in Commiefornia, asked me to check it out to see what I thought. He'd sent me a video, which I stared to watch, until I saw this one on the right side of the laptop screen and watched it first in stead. Half way into this video, I sent him this link and said if you haven't watched this video yet you might want to. As after seeing it, I wouldn't buy it and I proceeded to tell him what I just told you.

@spotink

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tip, I'll just be aiming at the head or face then.

Thank you for your honest review!! You just saved me some money

Yeah, this totally changed my mind. Causing physical pain onto a threat without actually impairing them is an even greater danger. If they're a true threat they may become extremely violent in response.

@turncoat_tactical

2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree!

I was just about to buy one and this made me change my mind. Thanks for this review.

@turncoat_tactical

Жыл бұрын

I think you made the right decision! Stay safe!

Best real life review I've seen on KZread. Great work guys. I almost bought into the marketing hype myself. The one I use, and would like to see you guys try and review as well, is the Tiberious T8.1 pistol. The marker has a lot more kinetic power potential. I have tested mine up to 30fpe. Not sure how much that is in joules, but, it packs a punch using glass breakerballs and also with Grinburg 8Gram HP68 mix PVC and Nylon shaped projectiles. I wouldn't want to get hit with one of the those rounds, even with multiple layers of cloths on. You got yourself a new sub.

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

I will check one out! Thanks for watching. Stay safe!

I've been wondering about this same exact scenario & thought it would produce these results. It's not going to be easy to just hit someone in the throat/head area as they're moving & the same trying for the "Man Sax". Thanks for testing this for us. I hope they can work these issues out soon!

One thing to keep in mind is this is a small CO2 cartridge, once you get past the first couple shots the power will drop, especially in the winter, you can get adapters for larger CO2, although it was a mistake to not have a larger CO2 factory

This weapon is for spring & summer ware only seems like, cause once you wear fall or winter type clothing its enough to make it feel like a simple paint gun hit. I suggest in fall or winter, aim towards the groin or legs for a harder exploding type hit. Good review guys!

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment 👍🏼 would have to be something to train for, as most will instinctively aim center mass during a stressful situation. Stay safe 👍🏼

@turncoat_tactical

2 жыл бұрын

@420 Blaze I have absolutely no clue what you’re talking about….

@turncoat_tactical

2 жыл бұрын

@420 Blaze your spelling and grammar are appalling! I’m not even going to try and respond to this nonsense!

This is the second vid I saw with a failed Byrna. Thanks for the heads up.

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! Stay safe!

Love the common sense review! Well done. Hope to see how others compare with the real lifelike tests!

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!! 👍🏼🙌🏼

@EricMartinSmithOfficial

3 жыл бұрын

Common sense like a guy coming up on you and attacking you with a full helmet and eye gear?.... That's great common Sense bro

Whew! Thank goodness for your review. I almost bought one. Shirt you’ll feel it more but in most cases people wear hoodies.

@turncoat_tactical

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. It’s why I thought I would try it. And the fact the balls did not burst was not good either.

Very helpful and very truthful. Thank you for helping me make a wiser decision.

I'm glad I seen you're video.... I almost bought one. Thank you!!!!! You guys are Great!!!!!!

@turncoat_tactical

2 жыл бұрын

Glad to have helped! Stay safe!

Very good review. I wish I had seen a review like yours before I bought a Byrna HD. If there is anything to be learned from this (assuming you already have a Byrna) is that head shots might be more effective than body shots.

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. Stay safe!

@papipistolas4305

3 жыл бұрын

🤣😂🤣🤣

@jamespeterson7100

2 жыл бұрын

Yes but then your getting into deadly force.

@jamespeterson7100

2 жыл бұрын

@420 Blaze Yes in that case you do what you must.

@lopezdad30

2 жыл бұрын

I guess we just gotta do 2 to the groin and 2 to the face and hopefully that should stop an assailant.

Well down here in Texas we do run around in t-shirts so it's pretty effective. I have personally been shot with a thing twice and it did hurt like hell. I've always had a problem with the regular byrna pepper balls bursting in my magazine, and that one definitely Burst when it hit a person. Because they broke so easy I have never ordered the byrna Max thinking they would not hold up in my magazine. I would definitely agree if I was wearing a heavy coat the affect would not be the same as when I'm wearing a t-shirt. I have to say it was a hell of a video and I appreciate you sharing it with all of us. I'm a big fan of dude less-lethal and Maga Man, I really love less lethal weapons have got yourself a new subscriber.

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

Appreciate the feedback. Good to hear other people’s experiences. When it comes to non lethal, I feel people really do need to test out what they have. Especially before they give themselves a false sense of security. Going in to the video, I had high hopes for it. Stay safe! 👍🏼

@TRC_941

2 жыл бұрын

If you read the manual that comes with the Byrna it says to load one Kinetic at the top of the mag so the pepper ball rounds don't burst in your mag. Hope that helps. As for the testing, I've shot at blanket outside from about 5 feet away and 4 out of the 5 pepper rounds burst. No there was no cardboard or metal or anything behind the blanket. Not sure if it was just your rounds or maybe your CO2 carts being low. But never had this issue with mine and I live in a cold weather environment for 9 months out of the year. Thanks!

@blackpowderpapa

2 жыл бұрын

@Marshall Smith everyone is a big man on a keyboard. I own real guns too and if this doesn't deter the bad guy the 9 will.

@blackpowderpapa

2 жыл бұрын

@Marshall Smith 4225 tollcross lane ftw Texas. I need someone to take a round on video for my KZread channel. I would absolutely love to see how much you laugh on the video. We can do next Saturday if you're available.

@blackpowderpapa

2 жыл бұрын

@Marshall Smith perfect let's touch base at the end of the week

So, first of all- love the video! Thank you for the review/testing. Will say though, does it have more oomph when it’s not so cold? Live in a place it never gets that cool, and know co2 struggles for power in lower temps. Jw!

@turncoat_tactical

2 жыл бұрын

I actually tried cartridges straight from the warm of indoors and didn’t see much difference. Stay safe.

Thanks for the review. Very close to ordering one. Gotta seek other alternatives. Cheers! 😀

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

For the money, I would not recommend this. You are far better with a good pepper spray! Thanks for watching! Stay safe!

@francispacis4867

3 жыл бұрын

@@turncoat_tactical thanks again.

Thanks for sharing, the review was outstanding. I want be buying one.

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! Glad you found it helpful.

There's only one video on this awesome channel? Totally subscribed!! The being-a-guinea-pig style of testing and reviews is rare. Great video. This tool is good for Summer time only. Now go back, do a part 2 and wear Summer clothes; if you have the spine to do it. 🤣

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! I have more content on Instagram @turncoat_tactical I will be adding more content here soon! Stay safe!

So glad I found this video. Actually considered purchasing the Byrna HD. Not anymore. Thanks, bro.

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! Stay safe!

Best review I have seem. Is there any non lethal 'weapon' you trust and recommend? Thanks.

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

I think straight up pepper spray is a better option. I’ve tested Sabre and fox foam. Both were very effective! But again, I definitely think you should test anything you’re planning to carry. That way you know what to expect. Thanks for watching. Stay safe!

Great review, I almost bought one. Dodged an expensive bullet. The thing costs almost as much as a regular firearm that would actually do the job.

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Glad you found it helpful!

@EricMartinSmithOfficial

3 жыл бұрын

It's not real life like when you don't follow the procedures that are mentioned in the directions....

@JP-rf8rr

2 жыл бұрын

It costs $400, there are real decent pistols that cost half that price.

@doxasticc

2 жыл бұрын

@@JP-rf8rr you realize people buy these because either they can't legally carry a firearm or because they don't want to take a life, not because they're looking for something cheaper than a firearm...

@jmval81

2 жыл бұрын

Hell im more intersted in a descent pistol for 200$ ? Are we calling hipoint descent here ?

Very good and eye opening. I was thinking of buying one of these, but I may reconsider. One question though, if you were walking forward and the second shot would have been fired at your thigh or your head, would you have stopped?

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

I think if someone is really intent on causing harm, this would not stop them. This hits more like a paintball. Stay safe!

If I have an attacker coming after me I would not aim for the area that has the most clothing. I would aim for either below the waste or above the shoulders. You can’t disagree that those shots are going to hold someone back. This is why you had face protection because you know that would be the game changer. Good info to get out there though for anyone that has these so they know what to expect in the cold months. As you said no one shows testing out with heavy clothing so for that thank you.

Thanks for this video! 10/10!! I do regret paying over ZAR5300,00 (around $350US) on this Byrna. My Tippman TiPX is more reliable. I’m getting the Tippman TCR next.

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

I’m glad I found your review. Was seriously contemplating purchasing one as we’ve just been in an insident two days before Xmas where someone tried gaining access to or vehicle.. This product would’ve let me down at the time I needed it most… Won’t be purchasing this product

You guys just saved me about $400 bucks. Thank you

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! Stay safe!

Yes I have order it still waiting I will try and test like you did, but now spring is here and soon summer. Here in NY I can't have the pepper balls

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

Hopefully it works out for you. Thanks for watching. Stay safe!

Good honest video. I did not buy mine for use against people, but rather the occasional nasty stray when I'm out walking the dogs. I'd love to see this test using the inert/powder filled balls to see if they break open when wearing clothing or hitting something soft. Or the pepper/gas ball if you choose, but the inert should show dispersion.

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I tried the “pepper/gas” and, could not get them to burst without a hard target. The inert, went straight through a pumpkin but did not burst either. Stay safe! 👍🏼

@pacanis

3 жыл бұрын

@@turncoat_tactical I can't see these balls opening on anything other than a hard surface. I was told shooting them into a yard at an angle would burst them.

I just stumbled on to this product today, and am doing my due diligence, and this video addressed my biggest concern of an attacker wearing layers of clothes. I live in Northern New England and 10 months of the year people have multiple layers on. I'll stick to lead and brass.

@turncoat_tactical

8 ай бұрын

I think you’ve made a good choice! I would not trust this at all! I would rather carry pepper spray.

Love the video man! Will you be doing a lot other reviews ?

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

That is the plan, along with other content! Thanks for the like!

@davidcarrasco876

3 жыл бұрын

I've commented on another video review. I'm sold. Plan on investing on it. Just want to know what are the "effective" number of rounds one can fire on one CO² Cartridge ! Can two mags be effectively used with one CO² cartridge ?

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidcarrasco876 I did not have an issue firing multiple mags with one cartridge. But, I would definitely recommend multiple tests so you know for sure if it’s consistent. Stay safe!

@kstoph7075

3 жыл бұрын

A few things to keep in mind with multiple mags. Each mag is only 5 rounds and the 1st round to puncture the CO2 is not full FPS. Second, the ball retainer is a lightweight spring loaded gate. The slightest nudge and your full clip shoots your load before you can get it fully inserted. I would not plan on having success getting a second clip locked in under pressure.

@davidcarrasco876

3 жыл бұрын

@@turncoat_tactical Understood. I'll continue to research the item. I mentioned on another review that though I carry off duty, I'd like the idea of personal disciplined "force Continuum". Whether out - about or at home. Appreciate the input very much. Thank you.

Enjoyed the review. New subscriber.

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I have more content on Instagram @turncoat_tactical 👍🏼

That was my concern about buying one too. If the round doesn't pop when it hits a soft target, then it doesn't work.

@turncoat_tactical

2 жыл бұрын

I could not get them to pop unless hitting a solid target.

Thanks. Just cancelled my order. Is there an alternative with like tech that does pass?

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

For non lethal I would just recommend a quality pepper spray. It’s smaller to carry and easier to deploy. Thanks for watching. Stay safe!

The problem with any type of airgun that uses a CO2 cartridge is pressure drop in regards to temperature. And once you fire that shot, that pressure reduces drastically as the carbon dioxide within the cartridge begins to revert to a solid. That's why Byrna and the other manufacturers recommend that you keep the PDW next to your body to keep the cartridge warm in cold weather. This is probably why the gas balls didn't break on impact. Have you actually tried firing the Byrna with a warmed cartridge at someone wearing layered clothing to see if that would work? Personally, I have a carry permit and my pistol of choice is a H&K USP45. I'm more trusting of proven technology.

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

I used multiple cartridges. This included room temperature ones. I could only get the max rounds to burst when hitting a solid object. I wouldn’t carry this for self defense. Stay safe!

@TRICK-OR-TREAT236

Жыл бұрын

@@turncoat_tactical THIS GUYS JUST LOOKING FOR AN EXCUSE TO BUY ONE.

Glad I saw this before I bought one.....Thanks!

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I’m glad you found it informative! Stay safe!

@new761

3 жыл бұрын

they didn't test the paper balls

@superkoo3585

3 жыл бұрын

@@turncoat_tactical hello, Is there a better one out there that works? From another brand maybe

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

@@superkoo3585 I think you would be better off with a good pepper spray. Easier to deploy and carry. Stay safe!

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

@@new761 pepper balls were tested, but they failed to burst!

would the pepper balls be useable in a paintball gun or paint pistol such as the tippmann Tipx

@turncoat_tactical

2 жыл бұрын

I’m not sure. But they don’t burst unless hitting a solid surface!

that's exactly the kind of test I was looking for. Many thanks, I'll pass with buying one...

If the launcher is very accurate like you mentioned, just blast the attacker in the face! I'm fairly certain that a few shots in the mug will stop him. And BTW, your first shot on the pumpkin was not as powerful because you didn't pull the trigger once (on safe) to puncture the CO2 cartridge. Also, I bought one in spite of this video. I love the Burna HD! Next video you do, just take off the mask and give it a whirl...

@repent1515

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. To the face like forehead, it might blast the pepper as well.

@anthonydellanno3803

2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking this the whole video these guys are wack

@anthonydellanno3803

2 жыл бұрын

If im that close im gonna aim fir the head not the body i wanna hurt them and have them back off

@rtatsytamajr

2 жыл бұрын

Why would anyone aim at an attackers body especially if they're wearing layers? 3 kinetic balls to the face or 1 Max to the forehead should deter most people or at least slow them down.

@GJJPR

Жыл бұрын

Neck and face will stop anyone!

Good test. Now I will practice groin and head shots majority of the time.

@turncoat_tactical

Жыл бұрын

I definitely agree that if you are going to carry this, make sure you practice! 👍🏼 stay safe!!

Amazing review brother! Unfortunately not so great self defense option.

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

I agree! Thanks for watching! Stay safe, mate!

Thanks for sharing mate

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching 👍🏼

very good experiment. did you try the pepper ball ? I was thinking of , as a hiking tool. be safe. ~. JDS/CT

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, I’m testing the max rounds in the video. They just didn’t burst. I could only get the to burst if they hit a solid object. Thanks for watching. Stay safe!

Any chance you can chrono that? Only asking because it appears slower than normal.

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

I’m afraid I do not have a chrono to test that. But, if that is the case then it shows inconsistencies with the product, and people should definitely test theirs out before relying on it! Thanks for watching. Stay safe!

great review!!!

@turncoat_tactical

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks.

I've a lifelite, and can burst the training rounds when hitting the ground. It has a much lower fps than the Byrna, so maybe it's the ammo?

@BobBombadil

2 жыл бұрын

It's the temperature. Even paintballs won't break when they are frozen lol

Interesting review... How do you think someone would fair against a head shot, leg shot or a shot to the groin? You made some very good points, but in a self-defense situation I would place the rounds where they would do the most damage and be the most effective. If an attacker had a thick coat on, I'm aiming above the chest or below the belt! But to each his or her own. Do what's best for you. Again, interesting video. You made some very good points. (Smile) Stay safe and healthy. Peace.

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t think the pain would be enough to stop an attacker. But, you have to factor that when you’re under attack, will you have time and the ability to place those shots on to the smallest target? Especially with only 5 rounds. Also, I could not get the max rounds to burst unless they hit a solid target. So I wouldn’t rely on them either. Stay safe! Thanks for watching.

@3wheel_motion

2 жыл бұрын

Do a couple of head shots with the max round.

After watching this video I purchased a BYRNA HD XL and it’ll muck you up if you know where to aim.

Okay we can call it only for summer use do you have anything you can recommend I will appreciate it thank you

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

I would recommend pepper spray over this. It’s smaller to carry, easier to deploy and more effective! Thanks for watching. Stay safe!

@CintronEd

3 жыл бұрын

@@turncoat_tactical thank you very much I definitely would do that thank you

I just received mine, but waited for delivery of the Co2 extender before using it. Your testing triggered some buyers remorse? Perhaps. But the kinetics are irrelevant- it's the CS that makes it a choice for home defense. Will test mine shortly to ensure the CS rounds open on impact. Thanks for the video.

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

That was the biggest problem I found. I could not get the balls the burst unless hitting a solid surface. I would definitely take this in to consideration if you’re using the byrna for home defense. Stay safe. Thanks for watching!

@TheREALDJFruitLoops

2 жыл бұрын

@@turncoat_tactical Police in Portland have been shooting the ground in front of rioters to get balls to bust.

@turncoat_tactical

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheREALDJFruitLoops it’s definitely the way to do it. The problem with doing that though, is what do you do when you’re on soft ground like grass? I wouldn’t want to rely on this product.

@TheREALDJFruitLoops

2 жыл бұрын

@@turncoat_tactical Yeah, from what I have seen the Portland police have some issues even with using the balls on hard ground surfaces, especially if the person runs from the powder...personally I think frontiersman spray which has 35 foot range is effective. Heatwave napalm pepper spray is pretty good too but no long range.

I like the review, very realistic. I would love to see @Byrna reply to this, as this is nothing close to what they promote.

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

I was expecting so much more out of this! I would never recommend anyone carry one to defend themselves or loved ones! Stay safe.

@davidzshit

3 жыл бұрын

@@turncoat_tactical If you don't have pepper spray, run away. Unless you're willing to stab someone who is attacking you lmao

I have had one for about three months now. Actually bought it for my wife since I have a license to carry. Have a shot it a few times. Pleased with it. Be prepared to wait a few months once you purchase it. Took five months to actually receive it. Ordered a holster as well and after almost 6 months received it a couple of days ago

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

No wait if you buy it from a store. I see them all over Ohio. After testing it (see video) I can’t recommend the product to anyone. Stay safe.

Exactly good review👍🏻 dude Gun looks nice but its a impulse buying all the way

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

Totally agree! I really did have high hopes!! Thanks for watching! Stay safe.

Just saw these on IG. Went to their page and lots of talk and testimonials, but very little show. I couldn't possibly see how a co2 cartridge could do anything but piss someone off. I thought the pepper balls would me of some use, but not if they don't break.

How often did you change the CO2 cartridge?

@turncoat_tactical

2 жыл бұрын

Every 10 shots (2 mags)

Gives the owner a false sense of defense....... worse than nothing at all! Thanks for the eye-opening review!

My question is was all those shots on the same cylinder? I would assume the fps would drop after the first shot

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

No, multiple c02s were used through the day. I have to say, being fair, there wasn’t much difference in power between the first say 10 shots. Thanks for watching.

How many Joules ? no one seems to talk about this

I’ve been through 2 in a week not working well the wind effects aim at 25 ft when it did work

@turncoat_tactical

2 жыл бұрын

Better to find out now than in a situation where you need it.

Can you try adjusting the velocity at the back? Do this with unpierced CO2 and repeat the test?

@turncoat_tactical

Жыл бұрын

I can’t see anywhere that it says these are adjustable.

@reaperairdefence932

Жыл бұрын

@@turncoat_tactical There is a hole at the back. Not sure of the allen wrench/key size. You void the warrenty ofcourse when doing this. Lots of guys have done this.

@turncoat_tactical

Жыл бұрын

@@reaperairdefence932 I did not know that. Thanks

So which one would you recommend.....a "real" hand gun is simply not not an option...Thanks

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

I would recommend a quality pepper spray. Easier to carry and deploy. Stay safe. Thanks for watching.

: )Thank you for the INFORMATIVE video. Would you consider doing another video with just the pepper balls? Very interesting how you weren't able to fracture even 1. Thanks

@turncoat_tactical

2 жыл бұрын

I used lots of them in this video and non would burst unless hitting a solid object. There isn’t really anything else for me to test with it. It is t fit for purpose. Stay safe.

@wd4313

2 жыл бұрын

@@turncoat_tactical I wrote this in reply to a comment you replied to. I *Agree* it's like it's a prototype that was released, as a fully functional product, it's Not ready yet. Unfortunately and especially unfortunately for those who have purchased it, hopefully they come out with an upgrade to increase the feet per second or and or, and and would be best, make the skin of the pepper balls much thinner while still maintaining their structural integrity until the point of impact on target, relatively soft or otherwise. If you've purchased one I suggest you either return it Or practice and make *Sure* you can make head neck groin and Possibly knee and thigh shots. This product *Currently* just has too many flaws, there is a serious flaw with the magazines that they can very easily release all of the projectiles if the end lever retaining bar is accidentally contacted when attempting to change out mags, keeping in your pocket etc

@wd4313

2 жыл бұрын

@@turncoat_tactical : )Why do you say "Stay safe." Thanks

@turncoat_tactical

2 жыл бұрын

@@wd4313 this is something I would never carry. I would rather carry a quality pepper spray.

@wd4313

2 жыл бұрын

@@turncoat_tactical I wonder if they'd break when hitting a attacker with a lot of fat on them wearing a t-shirt, guessing no, or maybe 50/50. The company Seriously needs to fix these problems.

I have one and it works fine and if you shoot at someone it would stop them. Is that a fresh CO2?

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. They were brand new cartridges from byrna. Glad yours works. I was expecting much more out of this. Thanks for watching! Stay safe!

@robyjohnson3370

3 жыл бұрын

Same here. Mine works great. I’d love to shoot them with mine. Lol

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

@@robyjohnson3370 if you would like to mail me yours I would be more than happy to run the test again with it... let me know!

I think it's meant to stop an assailant with the chemicals in the pepper ball, not by the physical force of the CO2 power.

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

I was using the pepper balls. They did not burst. The only way I could make them burst was hitting a solid wall. Stay safe.

I’ll wait until they improve the “byrna” until then I’ll be using the umarex pistols with “riotballs”

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

I can’t see them making improvements any time soon while they are still working out how to produce the ones they have orders on. Thanks for watching. Stay safe

@Mikes_Life

3 жыл бұрын

@Birdusmaximus Canines can I ask which umarex pistol you use ? I’ve looked at all of them and can’t decide

@wd4313

2 жыл бұрын

@@Mikes_Life purchase whichever one holds the most rounds and has the highest FPS. Which one is that? Or do some hold more but are not as powerful? Thanks

Great video... point it to the eye and it will do the job LOL! I bought one (Im in Argentina) but only for the persuasive effect it may have since concealed carry is forbidden here, but this crap is legal.

At last a genuine review. Nearly bought one (on basis of shill US reviewers) I can't imagine how I would react when if it failed to burst the ball when I needed it for defense. Total shite product.

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

I could not get them to burst when hitting a soft target. Regular pepper spray is more effective and reliable than this! Thanks for watching! Stay safe!

Very helpful, thanks!! Looks like I’ll be returning mine...

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Idk i have one and the practice rounds break bottles, and dent the crap outta all sorts of stuff, not to mention being hit in the face or hit i the face with oc balls....ouch...i think you may have a faulty gun or are using really crappy c02 canisters. I just dont get it, mine seems twice as powerful as yours, maybe even three times as much? Im confused

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

The c02 is from byrna. I could not get the max (oc) rounds to burst without hitting a solid surface. If yours is more powerful, it clearly shows the lack of quality control. Stay safe.

How about the pepper ball round

@Michael-vy2nh

3 жыл бұрын

The MAX rounds are a mix of OC and CS. If they would have busted then it might have been a little more effective but no telling since it did not work.

For myself, I wouldn't just shoot one shot. Would be nice to see you unload a full magazine of 8 rounds with the hardest hitting rounds. Also, I think headshots would do that trick. Good review none-the-less

@turncoat_tactical

2 жыл бұрын

Even unloading doesn’t hurt! You would need to make the head shots to cause any pain. Stay safe, mate! 🙌🏼

Great video!!! You just save me to invest my money in to something that DON'T WORK. Thank you.

@turncoat_tactical

2 жыл бұрын

I was very disappointed. I expected more out of this! Stay safe!

Can you use other co2 for this launcher

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

I’m not sure, I only used c02 from byrna.

Thanks for the video, I think overall this is more dangerous than useful. You can't replace a firearm with a niche item when you are in eminent threat of your life. Still, when you're adrenaline is high and you see this come out and shoot at you, you aren't going to stick around to see if it put a hole in you or not. so i'd say it's more of a deterrent.

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

You have to hope it works like that! Someone who is intent of causing harm, or who’s adrenaline is pumping may not be fazed. Too many videos out there of people being shot and continuing an attack. Stay safe! Ps. To address your first comment about the sync, something happened in the upload, and I had shared the video too many times before I noticed. I don’t think it takes away too much from the content though. 👍🏼

@Beardshire

3 жыл бұрын

@@turncoat_tactical Indeed, this is no replacement for a .45 or even a .380. Dare I say, even a knife if in dire need to get someone off of you at any cost, this isn't going to do it, this is more of an anti road rage tool, or a de-escalation tool, but it can also get you killed because the other person may pull a gun on you, and there you are with a toy. A little bit into the video it went away so I deleted the comment.

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

@@Beardshire yes I agree!! It seemed to be for about 30 seconds. Thanks for watching! I will be posting some more videos in the futures if your on Instagram, I have lots of content on there. @turncoat_tactical 👍🏼

true test, i knew this gun was nothing more then a bonifide paint ball gun waste of money, thanks for the honest review

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!! I will be posting more videos like this in the future. You can also check out my Instagram @turncoat_tactical

@jameswarren9476

3 жыл бұрын

Gun may be good but customer service is terrible,orders extra co2 cartridges.ammo,holster been waiting 13 weeks and each time I call customer service says everything on back order or production is slow because of covic and now they are opening another plant to ramp up production.wish I had saved my money and put a bunch of rocks in my pocket.

I had the same lamp LOL Anyway your demonstration is very different than the other demonstrations I've seen so I don't know but I'll have to purchase one for myself and view byrna return policy Just in case I have a non-lethal HD that is malfunctioning

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

If you purchase from anywhere other than their website, they won’t issue a refund. If you use any of the c02s or balls in the kit, they won’t offer a refund. If you send them a product back and they deem it un returnable they will discard the product and not ship it back. So, if you play to return it, bear in mind that they might not accept the return.

iv seen paintball guns shoot higher velocity.... 😐 on that note do those balls fit in a paintball gun??? with the hopper on the top you would have an insane round capacity

@turncoat_tactical

2 жыл бұрын

That I would not know. I do not own a paint ball gun to test it out. Some paint ball guns will definitely hit harder than this.

@jackasshomey

2 жыл бұрын

@@turncoat_tactical yea like even my good old Tipman 98 Custom shoots at about 200 feet per second and iv seen some dudes with crazy burst fire paintball rifles that shoot quite a bit faster.

Thank you

so seeing this how do everyone fill about the tr50

@turncoat_tactical

Жыл бұрын

I’m staying away from these types of devices. I feel that a good pepper spray is a better option. Easier to carry and use quickly and effectively.

@bostonswift

Жыл бұрын

@@turncoat_tactical@ Turncoat Tactical mace would also be more effective; only from videos did I notice that the Bryna jams a lot.

So, you're saying to go for head shots in wintertime? :)~

@turncoat_tactical

2 жыл бұрын

No! I’m saying, don’t waste your money on this product! There are cheaper, better alternatives that are easier to use and are more effective! Stay safe!

how long did it take to deliver

@turncoat_tactical

2 жыл бұрын

It has never delivered! But, if you are talking about to be delivered from ordering one, no time at all as I bought it from my local gun store.

I believe the theory is depending on the time of the year should you Discern the type of ammo you should load in your clip for spring summer months we’re people mostly we’re less the hard projectile rounds can be more effective for fall winter time months The pepper and teargas like rounds should be more effective it’s all on what you’re trying to attack Hard pellets focuses on bruising the body while chemical rounds focuses on attacking the senses

@turncoat_tactical

Жыл бұрын

Problem is that the max rounds do not burst.

Looks like if you’re trying to protect yourself you’re screwed if you do then you’re screwed if you don’t

Thanks for the info I was going to buy it but after that he’ll no

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. Stay safe!

If someone is wearing a thick coat, go for the head or leg. Notice the “perp” was wearing head protection. I know a head shot will stop a perp so can you take one in the leg for a demonstration? 😁

I'm not a big fan of the Max rounds or the inert ones, they don't always break open. The kinetic rounds I've fired seem to work better. I even shot the Riot balls, and they seem to be better. It's fun to shoot targets with it. Self defense? I don't know if I'd trust it yet.

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching.

@maxmaximus6671

3 жыл бұрын

@@turncoat_tactical Byrna is making an adapter so you can use 12 gram cartridges and it boosts the fps. I ordered one and will try it. Check it out at Byrna.com

Dude I just spent nearly $500 on one of these with all the bells and whistles and crap.... hope it’s good

@turncoat_tactical

2 жыл бұрын

Make sure to test it out!

I would love to see a review where someone gets shot in the groin or face. Maybe that will deter someone? I did see one where someone was shot in the neck and dropped him immediately. Thanks for the video.

@turncoat_tactical

Жыл бұрын

I’m not really convinced someone who wants to cause you harm would be stopped by one of these. Nor would I be trying to aim at a small target. I think pepper spray is more effective, easier to deploy and carry.

good review

@turncoat_tactical

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Stay safe!

Can you test JPX videos?

@turncoat_tactical

2 жыл бұрын

I haven’t actually seen one at any of the gun stores I shop at. If I see one I will definitely give it a test 👍🏼👍🏼

Well, maybe they should call this a "just piss someone off" device, then. I believe you just saved me 400 bucks.

I know that company hates you but im glad i saw this video

@turncoat_tactical

2 жыл бұрын

I’m sure they do! So do the people who bought on and are in denial about how effective this thing is!

@dinerohitman7680

2 жыл бұрын

@@turncoat_tactical and the fucked up thing about this is if someone truly relied on this foolery trying to defuse a situation they would be in trouble is there one that does work ? or are we just simply better of buying a bb gun the co2 kind

@turncoat_tactical

2 жыл бұрын

@@dinerohitman7680 I feel pepper spray is a better option. Easier to carry and deploy.

At the end of the day it’s better to have something that might de escalate the situation than not, it’s like saying what if the attacker was wearing body armour and your 9mm could not pierce it etc etc maybe get a M16 or carry a rocket launcher 😂 what if there are more than one attacker and they have weapons 😮 your gun is not going to save you don’t buy a gun. It will work for certain situations and not for others carry pepper spray as well just do what you can not everyone can obtain a firearm licence and carry one try to avoid becoming a target as best as you can thanks for the video it certainly helps people to be more aware stay safe people.

good to know

Thanks for the video lots of information..but if it were me I would be shooting for the face or throat...

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

Just make sure to practice shooting small targets while moving. That’s a small target you would need to hit, especially while under stress and defending from an attack! Stay safe!

Why didnt you try the pepper tear gas ball ? Well in the cooler season just do face shoots ....

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

I have addressed this in a previous comment. I did test the “pepper tear gas ball” it would not burst. Nor did it hurt more than a paintball. As far as shooting to the face, it seems easy to a non moving target. But, shooting a a moving attacking target in the face while you are stressed from an attack is easier said than done. But, if that’s your plan then I recommend lots of training, and getting used to shooting on the move against moving targets. Stay safe!

@brianrahuba6919

3 жыл бұрын

@@turncoat_tactical not at point blank rage it ain't. There enough people sitting in prison for it. God Speed !!!

@turncoat_tactical

3 жыл бұрын

@@brianrahuba6919 well, I hope you never have to try and find out! Stay safe!

@brianrahuba6919

3 жыл бұрын

@@turncoat_tactical Its truly up to other's ! Play stupid games win stupid prizes .