Buying a $500 VR6! Disaster or Great Deal?
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We tear down the $500 VR6 engine we bought to swap the engine in our Scirocco Project. This engine had to be check and refreshed before we put it on a pallet and shipped it to Florida. We found a mountain of issues with it, which added a bunch of hurdles along the way.
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You two really should collaborate more often, the two of you are a golden presenter duo!
@MrNeelmatt
3 жыл бұрын
Just wait until you discover Cars and Cocktails!
@ScottOrd
3 жыл бұрын
@@MrNeelmatt I just read your comment and then immediately subscribed to that channel - thanks for the recommendation!
@devttyUSB0
3 жыл бұрын
Yep! Really enjoyable to watch them banter and work on this. :)
@ScottOrd
3 жыл бұрын
@@devttyUSB0 "I clicked for the VR6, and stayed for the banter!" 😂
@hughwillcox5472
2 жыл бұрын
I’m new too this channel I thought this was normal
So young, not prepared for what is to come. DONT DO IT PAUL AND CHARLES!
@dogchainsaw3923
3 жыл бұрын
Hi
@acefighterpilot
3 жыл бұрын
Nothing could ever prepare a trained technician to be holed up on a shop floor for five days with Paul.
@overmonk
3 жыл бұрын
I feel like Paul is predicting the future talking about injector seals.
@bay7695
3 жыл бұрын
@@RedondoBeach2 IIRC they said in original series that budget video is coming.
@larryralrick8250
3 жыл бұрын
but, did it ruin your wookie day?oh,my chihuahua profile doesn't show when posting on my pc Charles.
Given the engines lack of maintenance, the bones look to have fared well. The only thing you didn't change were the injectors, but I'm sure that won't bite you in the butt later.
@bigben5246
3 жыл бұрын
It's almost like you can see into the future ;)
@rennkafer13
3 жыл бұрын
@@Ramboy2007 but new starters almost never fail... some guy named Paul told me that.
@bencrosbie
3 жыл бұрын
Then the injectors did bite lol
@jizburg
Жыл бұрын
Thats what we call forshadowing.
This is like watching a prequel to a horror movie. We in the audience know this is just setting up more horrors to follow at the end. Unbeknown to characters in the story.
@smplyizzy
3 жыл бұрын
Prefect response!
@ScottOrd
3 жыл бұрын
There's even the obligatory, "this should go smoothly..." (it never goes smoothly) 🤣😎😉
The cardboard trick for keeping track of trans bolts is the easiest and most cost effective thing you can do. Its free and it works!
That overlooked detail that optimism leads to be being ignored @34:50 that nearly kills everyone aboard the ship if this was a sci-fi horror.
I make terrible life choices too!! Except clicking on these, informative, fun, VW, go guys go! Thank you 😊🇮🇪
@Deutscheautoparts
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
"I make terrible life choices so here we are." Man you could be me. Or any of us.
Growing up with my dad being a mechanic on German cars as a kid, this engine sound still today is one of my favorites. I regret not buying a R32 Golf 10 years ago when I should have. Now they are crazy expensive for one in good shape. Thanks for the making this series, I missed it somehow and got removed from KZread notifications. I follow both of your channels. You guys are awesome!
Guys this was super hilarious, please do more of these
@jamesk3565
3 жыл бұрын
I agree
@CommanderQool
3 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@dominikszafran5514
3 жыл бұрын
Hard yes! Love seeing these adventures
"Oh I'm pretty strong"....."oh I went to the gym once" frickin hilarious haha👍😎
Now I have a renewed respect for “I do cars” with how easily and efficiently he tears engines down. $500 for that engine? Your “friend” was laughing all the way to the bank.
@al2010411
2 жыл бұрын
I would like to buy one also if he has another!
You guys really had a hard time from start to finish with this build, nice work and props for not giving up!
Old school leave the flywheel on. Stand the motor on end . Flywheel stays while you turn the block. It's that easy guys. 😮
Watched every minute of this series. Thanks guys for the awesome content!
you guys really present well together! Very watchable, thumbs up!
Awesome journey . 👏 the funny part is watching the energy drain away 🤣 as you both struggle to get the build finished.. You Guys TOTALLY ROCK ..❤
These guys together are meant to be friends and buddy’s, this is the good universe for them,
Amazing video! Whenever I think of attempting something like this. I’ll just watch this again and save myself a lot of pain and sadness.
That head bolt part was so satisfying for some reason. You guys are great together. Both of your channels are my favorite youtube channels to watch hands down. Thank you guys for making such awesome content
Love both of you!!!Of all the mk4 vids I've needed to watch, this one has the absolute largest variety of information in a small amount of time considering. Love seeing a 24v receive such love from the most capable of hands!👍👍!YOU GUYS ARE MY FXXXXXG HEROES!!!!!
Been down to the cams and the timing chains, but never had the pistons and rods out of my old VR. Much props for all of this effort!
As soon as he mentioned "as long as you don't punch a hole in the block" I was hoping they would have cut to some random block with a hole in it trying to play it off🤣🤣
@Deutscheautoparts
3 жыл бұрын
Missed opportunity
These types of videos never get old, hope you do more!
I love your guys' videos together. Amazing suffering. What a great engine when it runs right though, and the car looks so cool.
What a great opportunity for some fresh injectors. :)
Good timing! Today I received the correct coolant for my Mk7 from you guys. I have heard that using the wrong stuff was bad. Seeing an example of why it's bad is pretty awesome...and a little scary!
My cousin and I are about to do chains on my 03 GLI (he's the VW tech) with 130k miles. Love the insight this gives me into the inner workings of this engine. You two are a fantastic duo, for sure do more videos together. Take care man
I really enjoyed this project - it's very encouraging to those who want to add some additional suffering into their automotive lives! 😎
Another fantastic video guys! Please keep them coming!!! ❤️
Reminds me of a recent video Charles did called "While I'm in there..." otherwise known as the mechanical version of if you give a moose a muffin.
Your videos are the greatest format and the most logical layout. The commentary after helps a lot too
These colabs are so hilarius, love them!
Perfect work. I love old school cars and engines.Super
I was a mechanic at Toyota and yes I have used cardbord for all sorts of bolts and bearing shells, all sorts of stuff. So yes a real mechanic will definitely use cardbord for organizing.
@Cal94
3 жыл бұрын
best thing i've heard was someone ripping Fabrats or Matt's Off Road Recovery. said somethin like [impressive use of CAD. Cardboard aided design] x)
@rainocongo4972
2 жыл бұрын
Great comment Chris! I know this is a random question but I’m looking forward to applying at Toyota, Did you guys hire felons by chance? It’s been 5 years
u 2 are great together! very entertaining and informative!!
Amazing video! Great work guys! :D We want MOAR!
This was a great video. I had a great time watching this. Wish I could be part of one of these adventures. Reminds me of back in the day…. Makes me nostalgic, and want to take a trip to NC
Another great video! So much extra work.
It’s funny see this and knowing what was to come and you guys look so excited lol
The asmr of those injector connectors was beautiful!
@45:00 So that our trans doesn't have a gaping hole, Paul really cracks me up 😂
Super entertaining! You guys rock!
the "shockingly, they don't leak, until they do.." just killed me 😂😂😂
Great content thanks for the info guys
Love the vr6 and the vr5 engine. The sound from thos cars are great . Working for vw for 20years
Keep them coming ..Halarious guys
Watching this video while sitting on my vr6 mk4 makes me feel so self-councious :(. bought it from a friend who had it collecting dust snow and salt, with a hole in the bell housing(@tranny) and half-assed jbwled patched. as a first timer VW owner, and not very skilled other than basics, this scares me so much. But hey! gotta love that angelical vr6 noise
Invaluable info, cheers guys
I loved the head bolt challenge!
21:47 Nice finger work, Charles. Got me sweatin’ over here.
Just discovered this channel. Great entertainment, thanks :D
26:00 was awesome 👏 That is the *new way*
You guys should put a turbo on it, imagine: vr6 DOHC (24 valves) with a turbo🤩🤩
Bought from a cowboy, engine left outside in the weather for like months. Love the crunchy bubble wrap sound deuche connectors 🤣 need more vids of the two of ye.
Charles: .... (install them correctly)... they don't leak! ... until they do!
@HumbleMechanic
3 жыл бұрын
:P
7:42 my w8 chain tensioner bouncing around while redline in the snow doing donuts xD
I *will* be using that painting tip.
i have bought and boosted many high mileage vr6s with out issue..love these things....have a aaa 2,8 with a m90 eaton blower in my 83 gti now.
20:18 "30 Neutron-meters..." *_LMFAO_*, Dude! Thx for this one! 🤭👌
I had a 2001 Jetta glx with that vr6 2.8. It had I think 175hp. It was okay I thought. Ignition went bad at 80k miles. The cooling system was garbage. The radiator cracked all connectors and hoses suck, the disintegrated and got brittle. Worst of all the transmission was way under built and failed at I think 90k miles. Cosmetics of the car stayed really nice all of its life though. The leather interior lasted and was like brand new from the day I bought it brand new till the day I sold it 14 years later. Good luck with your motor! Cool project!
My dad has 2013 Volkswagen CC 3.6 which has 367k kilometres on it and it still runs great and performs great I think it's immortal engine
Just got an mk5 rabbit. Felt horrible when I took the cover off and seen 2 broken tabs on my injectors. Now, I don’t feel so bad! Thanks DAP, lol.
@Freakezzz
3 жыл бұрын
I also immediately flushed and changed coolant after seeing this.
Sure hope the pistons top ring lands weren't too hammered after 200k. I reringed one at 120k and the old top rings felt really loose in their groove, the lands had a visible lip from mixture firing hammer. Ended up taking 0.3mm off the ring lands and fitting fatter old stock rings. Great vids lads.
Such a cool engine design
Hi Paul, I enjoyed this video so much, I was laughing every minute of it. haha. I have my VW Jetta GLI MK4 2.8L 24v (BDF) in your shop this week (for something else). I bet my engine needs this love and care as well. Jeez, cannot believe how dirty this engine was. I bet mine is as bad as well. Any engine beyond 200K needs all this maintenance and super clean up for sure. You might need to invite Charles again to do mine!
When I did the head gasket on my VR6, went to put the cylinder head bolts back in. Did the conversion from Nm to FtLb backwards, and ended up with a ft lb value HIGHER than the spec Nm. So I got to the 90s and was like "this feels too much, but the book is the book." Snapped a bolt, THEN went to double check. So yeah I needed a second set of bolts.
I sure hope this video made the pain of making this decision less onerous. A little anyway. I honestly loved seeing a full tear-down and rebuild.
Berryman's Chem Dip works great for soaking parts that are caked in carbon. If you have time to let them sit in it, it works great. Get a couple of gallons or so of it and dump it all into a large sturdy container that is chemical resistant and then just put your parts in and let them soak for a day or so. Lots less hard work to get your pistons and whatnot cleaned up good.
That was awesome! I don't think it was mentioned how that you cleaned the coolant passages? That and also the intake header?Was the block sent off to be cleaned as well? Thanks.
Both of you are funny to watch. For a second I thought you took stuff off the big shelf and then put it all back on to screw with us viewers.
Ive been waiting for this
Have the exact same engine when I went to replace the thermostat housing and its innards I found the previous owner used window caulking to “seal” it…
old electrical connectors - one way to preserve the plastic quick release - wd 40 spray and a heat gun.
13:05 that come from not changing mixed coolant.
Oil pan threads get destroyed because the oil plug, on metric cars, is a straight machine thread unlike the older non-metric cars it's a taper thread which is more forgiving when installing the plug.
99% of us would not have two experienced VW mechanics rebuilding our crusty VR6. We would have an old Sirocco in the driveway and a half disassembled VR6 in the garage with the obligatory coffee tin full of greasy bolts and nuts
@Deutscheautoparts
3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately for a lot of people you are 100% correct
I love a neutron meter - especially 30 of them + 180 freedom units x Celsius
Why was dropping in those head bolts so satisfying? We are such simple creatures. lol
The only 2 people I trust on the whole wide web on VW's
I'm starting here but I'll watch the whole series if only because I love the VR6 more than is reasonable.
You guys make rebuilding a engine to be lots of fun. Did you say that you used a DSG transmission? I have the same engine and I would love to do that conversion
Well at least the hardest part of the build is over. It should be smooth sailing after this. Smooth sailing as taking a wooden sailing ship through the Strait of Magellan.
Imagine getting this engine and being only a semi good engine-guy... Most would be F'ed - but that just makes this soooo much cooler to see :) Thx guys
The whole build, from conception to screaming baby, has been one very difficult birth!
I got 316,000 fun reliable miles on my 98' on my Jetta VR6 years ago...never replaced anything, but the 1 big coil pack, arced when really wet out...never changed chain, or guides, nutin...never stuck, manual trans, never touched, dealer always said leave it alone....fantastic car it was, fun Jetta GLX..current golf r is much much much better though. oil changed every 7500 miles, never failed, until power steering pump bearing went....I wanted to go to 500,000 didn't make it
@cengeb
3 жыл бұрын
And that was pre syn oil....never had any issues...always got me where i needed to be, never stranded, RELIABLE
No that aint from mixing antifreeze. That is "head gasket sealer" ... it has fiber in it to plug holes and it does that :)
Even though it ended up being $1500 ish, that's not bad for a refreshed motor.
I really enjoy when you guys work together. At least what you present to the public, it appears you guys are really having a good time.
@Deutscheautoparts
3 жыл бұрын
We’re usually having a good time, until we aren’t ; )
I'VE seen it before were that fiber crap in the coolant ports is from head gasket repair in a can.
That poor engine was tortured! I’d just go with a crate motor at this point. Unless this is a real unicorn of an engine!?
"Horse power" started as a marketing term to describe how many horses an engine would replace. Like if you have a stable of 5 horses that take turns doing a specific job, like running a hoist at a mine. If you get an engine that runs the hoist, you can get rid of 5 horses. Therefore it's 5 hp!
hilarious 😆 i like this part very much
when 90% of your parts are sourced from people in NC Huge Pog champ
I would to thank u so much for your videosss and I would like to ask for more videos talking about trans I am looking to do a swap. So like I would like to put vr6 with a manual trans in my 914
The paper looking rtv ish stuff is probably a fiber filled head gasket repair chemical. A lot of them have glass particles that look like that.
Paul comes out with some funny remarks
1,500 dollars🤯 that’s not bad!
Hi guys love your show amazing Could you guys do a show about VW atlas how to remove Dashboard ,center consul door panel mirror cover thank you