In 2005 I bought an Lly 4wd cc shortbed-fast forward to 2020 im still driving my Lly w/403k miles -90% of what you said was problematic w/the Lly is definitely not common-i have a very Heavy foot & I’ve been using a 90hp ppe tune since 2009-factory head gaskets,injectors,cp3,starter etc-ive replaced 1 alternator,1idler pulley & 1 a/c compressor.my truck is used daily for my own Diesel Mobile Mechanic business 👍🏼

@hitpointalpha8691

2 жыл бұрын

Still going? Pre awesome I got 370k with heads replaced

@duramax78

2 жыл бұрын

I agree totally, had many duramax s LLY, LBZ, L5P, what he’s saying about the tailgate plastic piece missing, I’ve never had one break, stolen, cheers from Chestermere.

@alexriddett2464

2 жыл бұрын

Hell yeah that’s what I needa hear!

Awesome job ! You just gave the best used truck review I've ever seen.... simple, honest and you pretty much covered everything that needed to be. Thanks. Love your channel!

@TopLineRacer

4 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

"Rust Free" & "Pennsylvania" have no business being in the same sentence together. As for LLY head gaskets, my LLY 6 speed has 446k miles on it, and still wears the factory installed head gaskets.

My grandpa and I both got an 05 2500 and have never had any problems besides the usual stuff like belts and oil and lights I find 05 one of the toughest Silverado’s made

@yamaharaptor01able

3 жыл бұрын

I have an 05 w/the 8.1 big block with 373,000 miles

THAT was a great review ! Totally matter a factory and to the point. Nicely done and I look forward to other reviews done in your style - THANK YOU!

this guy knows half of what he's saying... love the ride of IFS over Ford and dodge... I have an LLY with slight mods, has 235K miles I've only replaced batteries and water pump PERIOD... best truck ever hands down

bought 2004 GMC drama new, put 426000 on it. newer hot rodded it. 2 sets of new injectors. no trans issues. replaced upper ball joints. great truck

@yamaharaptor01able

3 жыл бұрын

Wow!!! That's pretty crazy!

LLYs are one of the best and strongest duramaxs made IMO. Injectors are easy to replace like the lbzs and newer. The stock turbo mouthpiece is one of the main reasons the HGs blow early. Pre emissions. Biggest factory turbo. Just as good as the beloved LBZ but llys don’t melt pistons ....only thing the lbz has on the lly is the 6 speed.

@clashking8266

3 жыл бұрын

Well said

@2015_Rubicnn

3 жыл бұрын

Not entirely true, the LBZ had some block improvements, thicker connecting rods and bigger piston pin diameters over prior LB7 and 04.5-05 LLY.

@605LIFE

2 жыл бұрын

100% agree! Plus the price difference between LLY and LBZ is huge, enough to buy an LLY, new turbo intake piece, and 6 speed conversion and still have left over $

Awesome job! Appreciate your efforts my friend! Always a enjoyable experience and cool veiw thanks for all! Keep well!🙂✌🏁!!

@TopLineRacer

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks, will do!

I have had issues with the back lightening of the steering wheel control and HVAC control burning out every couple years !

You’re pretty much spot on with everything man, awesome video! Mine has a new engine tuned by GM, original transmission though, with389k

I definitely dont hate the LLY. They do have the biggest turbo from the factory and produce and nice screech when you lay into it with a straight pipe. I own an 06 lbz with loads of engine work done to it, but I can say I'd take an LLY over any of the newer models any day.

@605LIFE

2 жыл бұрын

100% agree

@colesteinlage

Жыл бұрын

How many miles can you get out an lly

this video is still worth watching man great job keep up the content

@TopLineRacer

4 жыл бұрын

I appreciate it!

I have a 2005 Chevy 3500 dually with the LLY, factory stock. I bought the truck brand new with 34 miles on it. I towed an 8000# camper until 2007 when I bought a 40ft 5th wheel that weighs in around 14,500# loaded. I just pulled this camper for 600 miles through the mountains of VA and it performed great. 172,000 miles and I've only had to replace the water pump. This truck isn't going to compete with a new one but it's been solid and steady for 17 years and it has done everything that I've asked of it.

Sweet breakdown.....then at the end as quick as that ....its going down the road that fast...lol take care!!!

I have a 04.5 LLY with 300,000kms the truck is just opened up with s&B turbo mouthpiece s&b air intake straight 5" exhaust back to 8" tip gonna add air dog lift pump put a tune on her and keep driving her until she rots out as it’s a very good engine with these upgrades and a few more and she be close to bulletproof with proper maintenance and additives!!

There was this video I saw where someone used a heat torch to renew the plastic lol. Idk if it worked or not

Got my LLY 2 years ago. 50 hp tow econo tune.66000 on it sbcc black just like yours except loaded. Never plowed and never saw a winter till I got it. The origenal owner with 72. didnt need it anymore. $22k and I love this truck. the odd thing about this truck is I looked for this truck on CL. Its the first truck that popped up.! minute search.

@yamaharaptor01able

3 жыл бұрын

You lucked the hell out for sure!!!

Very informative video. Keep up the great content

@TopLineRacer

4 жыл бұрын

Appreciate it!

Thanks man.. looking at an '05 LS LLY 2500HD w/215k (2 owner) and appears to be in really good shape. Knowing what to look and look out for helps!

Theoretically I’d say the LB7 would be the most hated DMax not the LLY. I have an LLY and did ARP studs and gaskets not because it was blown but because I wanted too. I got 5 tune set up to 125 hp triple disk converter and a stage II trans build. Truck is reliable and fast enough for me.

@TopLineRacer

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I should have saved the "most hated" line for when I do an LB7.

@lIlIllll1

2 жыл бұрын

How much was it to do the stage II trans build?

Do u recommend this truck for pulling a 5th wheel camper

One other problem with these trucks also is the stupid integrated dash bulbs in the hvac, cluster and steering wheel buttons that go out. They are not horrible to change on the cluster if you can solder but just a real pita when half of the dash is dark in various spots and the steering wheel buttons at $30 plus per button cluster sucks from the dealer too.

@robqwertyuipp8750

4 жыл бұрын

I have that issue too, need led replacement lamps instead of those incandescent bulbs they come with . And they burn out in groups not one at a time

We used to have the gas version of this truck 4x4 and we loved every second if it since we sold it still have never seen a match to it verry rare I guess ours looked like the red donor truck for the whistlin diesel truck sad :-(

@TopLineRacer

4 жыл бұрын

That's awesome, I actually have a review on the gas version as well.

You are a verry good youtuber you make amazing content

Lb7 is the most hated

@NollEngineeringPerformance

4 жыл бұрын

Agree. Never heard anyone complain about an lly aside from harness rub and head gaskets on high mileage stuff with a tune

@gavinkey6297

4 жыл бұрын

I was about to say lb7 just because of the injectors

@TheOGThumper

4 жыл бұрын

Got 2004 LB7 with 418k and the valve covers have never been off of it so original injectors. Probably a fluke but it's been pretty solid!

@cliffblakely4008

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheOGThumper I have a 04 LB7 with 270K. Injectors were done at 6.9 years and 115K miles. Chevy had a silent recall on the injectors for 7 years and 120. Found a dealer that knew about the recall a took care of me.

@saltycade9063

3 жыл бұрын

@@NollEngineeringPerformance yeh lmao I had my lly blow a head at 350k miles replaced it and it’s now at 558k miles

Thanks for the video...learned a lot.....

Love the channel. Hey I have a Toyota pickup 2 door a 2.4 liter manual truck. Needs a new speedometer. Can't find anywhere!! Can u help? Thanks

Sidebar, the LLY has the biggest turbo. The tail gate bezel that’s always broken was not. 🤷🏼‍♂️My Lilly has 200k and the tailgate bezels always been fine on it. Operator error and those little plastic pieces that go get replaced by DIY guys and they break the bezel in the process.

Awesome video brother keep up the good videos 😊😊😊

@TopLineRacer

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Will do!

The rear break light will rust around and leak 😂 i have that problem and 2 of my buddy’s also have the same issue

Nice vid keep u the good work

What brand/model tires does the truck have?

Can you do a review like this for the F150?

Excellent work and thanks for the content

@TopLineRacer

4 жыл бұрын

No problem 👍

@haydenuk02

4 жыл бұрын

@@TopLineRacer 👍

Great review 👏👏 an outstanding video. Personally I won't buy a duramax, but they dont seem like awful trucks.

@TopLineRacer

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

In Michigan that truck would of pulled 12k easily. Btw lb7 is definitely most hated in my opinion

Man love your vids unfortunately where ever there is a spot weld there is bare metal the e coat that the oem puts on can't get all the way to the spot weld that is y they rust

Appreciate your video bud

What's your opinion on a 2005 ford f150 with the 3v 5.4 in it.The one i have i have to do the timing chain kit on it with a new HV oil pump im just a little worried about doing it never done stuff like that before.Your input would be helpful.

@TopLineRacer

4 жыл бұрын

I have not personally done any work on the 5.4 but the cam phasers go bad in basically every single one of them unfortunately. I would just say check out the videos on youtube of the install process as I don't have any first hand experience on those.

Great review!

Just bought an 06 silverado 2500 with 127k, 6.6 diesel. Needs rockers but thats it. Paid 14k. Pretty excited.

@fiveninegarage

2 жыл бұрын

Lucky bastard

Cool vid, you should see the horrorshow of what salted roads in maine does to thin metal lol.

@TopLineRacer

4 жыл бұрын

Haha I've seen couple vehicles from around there and it gets rough in a hurry.

@yamaharaptor01able

3 жыл бұрын

Same here in Massachusetts, salted roads are the fricken WORST!!!

Im 14 next year I Can get a car and can get a job rn but that 2500 z71 is my dream truck

if you have the chance to get a 2005 2500 roller for free what motor would you throw in it and how easy or complicated is it?

A friend of mine got a 2005 Duramax, & about a week after he got it he had to replace the head-gasket.

@kylew7505

4 жыл бұрын

I'm about to replace mine after about 2 months.. getting arp head studs and replacing a bunch of stuff while doing it.

Yep, Deep South Georgia rust at the same place. I’ve got the same truck but the GMC version 😊

LLYs are totally underrated!

I removed the fender flares on my 2000 z71, they were packed full of crud, I left them off.

@TopLineRacer

4 жыл бұрын

Definitely a good call

Nice truck, my dad's has a 2001 2500 HD with zero rust , still smells new and runs like a top but has some dents.

I’m thinking about buying a 2004-2010 Duramax either LLY or LBZ whichever I can find. How do I know too many miles is too many (of course 300k is too much) I’m thinking buying one with around.... 150k or lower if I can find one. Is that too many miles for the truck or not really?

@TopLineRacer

3 жыл бұрын

Nah, you should be fine.

Don't forget the typical steering shaft clunk. Either replace them or pull it and pack it with grease

@TopLineRacer

4 жыл бұрын

For sure! Thanks!

@kevkayla11

2 жыл бұрын

Hmm is is the sound I'm hearing over bumps under the dash?? 99,560

I know this sounds stupid, but is the gmc sierra version basically the same with the duramax engine and features?

@TopLineRacer

3 жыл бұрын

Yep

Arizona trucks only get the headlight fade. No rust problems

Im about to get into hotshot hauling. I watched this vid for the reliable needs for a build. So about the tranny basically its not good to use for that?

@TopLineRacer

17 күн бұрын

It's a great transmission and will hold up to lots of abuse but obviously towing all the time isn't the easiest on them, overall it's a solid choice

@AdjudicatorBrbal

17 күн бұрын

@@TopLineRacer thx

Keep it up spencer

Is it me or did 15 year old trucks of 2020 gotten alot more expensive. At the time of 2003 a 15 year old trucks like a squarebody 1989 chevy 3500 with 170000 miles would cost 3k to 4k at average. But 9k for a truck like this for me is overprice.

@bradd.8278

9 ай бұрын

You're gunna shit you're pants when you read this in todays world and realize how fucked we've become in the car/truck market lmao! That truck is 15k all day right now and that's if someones nice or it's trashed with rust.

I actually really like that truck

Thank you so much for the video

Is it for sale ? I need a truck, just started a job and it’s 30 minutes away and my last car blew up, and I’m willing to come get it

@TopLineRacer

4 жыл бұрын

It's actually already sold.

I always loved these obs2005 trucks. The nbs 2020 duramax trucks look alright but not a good as this obs truck.

I love my 05 LLY!

@leonardodelgadillo3664

3 жыл бұрын

how many miles on yours? i’m looking to get one!

Nice review!

@TopLineRacer

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Great job. Looks great.

@TopLineRacer

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

2:10 lol what? I couldn’t even take mine off without breaking it in half when it was going to get resprayed

My dad has 271k on his 98 dually still runs like brand new.@toplineRacer how many miles is on your guys dually?

@TopLineRacer

4 жыл бұрын

Its right around 190k

@jordanhann1624

4 жыл бұрын

TopLineRacer what year?

@TopLineRacer

4 жыл бұрын

97

What’s the best diesel I can get with a 30k budget?? I’m using it to move to Denver and daily drive!!!

@TopLineRacer

3 жыл бұрын

Something pre-2008, with under 150k is what I'd go with.

@Steezy_R1

3 жыл бұрын

@@TopLineRacer I actually ended up going with a 2019 6.7 f250 lol

@TopLineRacer

3 жыл бұрын

@@Steezy_R1 that's awesome! Those are great trucks!

Lb7 is most hated and I got one lol 04 lb7 361,000

love living in Texas

Most hated duramax? Hmmm.... disagree. Didn’t mention- Largest factory turbo.

@TopLineRacer

3 жыл бұрын

That's fair. It's the LB7.

@605LIFE

2 жыл бұрын

100%! LLY for the win!

Some dealerships would sell this for 20k. Lol

@danielcalderon4198

3 жыл бұрын

Especially in California

@Spaced_trip21

3 жыл бұрын

I’m looking at a LLY single cab with 150k miles for 20k lmao

@livewithnick

2 жыл бұрын

$20k is about what a private sale would bring in the south East. I sold my 2007 classic with D-Max and 200k miles for $21k and it sold within 2 days to the 1st person who looked at it.

@metalmillitia3026

2 жыл бұрын

Shoot here in Georgia 2022 market, a dealer would ask $26,000 and they’d get it lol

My buddys white lbz all the paint is flaking. You can see primer on basically the entire roof the hood the doors everythings flaking

@TopLineRacer

4 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately that's all too common on the white trucks

If you have a title, how much you want for it ?

@TopLineRacer

4 жыл бұрын

It's already sold

I’m here!

WoolWax!!! It will change your Vehicle's life!!!!!!!

Most comfortable interior of all Chevy’s is that era interior

Is this your truck?

The only thing I hate more than gmt800 tie rods are the gmt400 tie rods 😑

@TopLineRacer

4 жыл бұрын

Haha

GM sure doesn't you to keep these unless you never take it out.

you must be new to duramax diesels, cuz the LLY is one of the most sought after duramax engines. rarest too

@TopLineRacer

2 жыл бұрын

Sought after by shops that like doing head gaskets....I'm just messing with you, the LLY is a solid truck otherwise and yes, the LB7 would truly be the most hated.

@seanpenny4580

2 жыл бұрын

@@TopLineRacer lol well in stock form if they aren't hauling loads too heavy the oem gaskets commonly see 250k miles. it's the guys running tuners without studs that cry about the gaskets. what did they expect? gotta mod diesels the right way. gotta say though, that even though the LB7 in stock form is kinda hated, the bottom end makes one helluva base for a 800hp 1600ftlb beast :)

Good investment is to use hot shot secret products

its a chevy with a dirty max its not even broke in yet

People don’t really like the 5 speed Allison transmission they like the 6 speed better all the Duramax engines are the same lol

Own a 2005 Duramax 2500. Travel in medical field. Tow fifth wheel to live in on assignment(one was 14,500ish pounds/current one 11.5k). Have upwards of 60k towing. 238k mileage on truck. Probably put somewhere around 12-17k in parts and labor in vehicle. You covered most of everything. Problems you didn't name. Did ppe tuner with egr delete (common problem). Inside fan system shorts out causing 3 and 5 speed to go out. Always carry an extra fuel filter with any diesel. Only time I didn't do that, I was stuck at a pilot for a couple of hours. Pretty much everything you stated happened to me. Cluster panel. Glow plugs. Rust. New lights all around. Seats and roof fabric. Whole front end replaced. I would buy this truck all over again. Great vehicle. Probably won't sell until wheels fall off.

Most hated? I choose an lly over the LB7 for obvious reasons.

Rusted brake lines. Not a huge deal though if you don't need brakes. Oh and rusted fuel lines..

@brentbrenneman69

4 жыл бұрын

That any brand tho... have had them all and they all rust. Very stupid that they dont use plastic.

@TopLineRacer

4 жыл бұрын

Good point!

rust isn’t a problem in florida ;)

@Mooreman50

3 жыл бұрын

And hurricanes aren’t a problems in the Midwest :)

@flavortown289

3 жыл бұрын

@@Mooreman50 Midwest is the best

@kingoftampa

3 жыл бұрын

But trucks are hard to find still, I end up always flying back to Texas for trucks.

284k on my 2006 LBZ. I really hope to hit 400k+

@rochmedina5305

3 жыл бұрын

Still running strong?

@OGKILLa9365

3 жыл бұрын

@@rochmedina5305 yes still going strong. No issues, just replaced, fuel filter, air filter, did oil change, new transmission filter, and new transmission fluid. Runs really strong its 100% stock. I do plan on doing a 5inch exhaust and removing the resonator, maybe a FASS lift pump in the future I'll see.

40 Years Auto-Body... The Plastic Fender Flares DO-NOT cause the Fenders and Box sides to Rust... The RUST is from the inside out... The Flares just hide the Rust longer... Washing the Inside your fenders and box sides and coating with some type of Oil like transmission Fluid is the Best way to stop Rust... same with cab-corners and rockers there is No plastic on them and they still RUST...

Hope mine last 1 million miles at least.

Rust free should mean rust free. Nice looking but man it sucks once they drive on salted roads

Where in pa do you live because I live in pa

@TopLineRacer

4 жыл бұрын

I'm around Harrisburg

@coltanritter3303

4 жыл бұрын

@@TopLineRacer I live around shamokin

Put on the whistlindiesel wheels on the black duramax

@TopLineRacer

4 жыл бұрын

They won't even come close to fitting haha

@lvillegas3

4 жыл бұрын

I thought the could fit

The deep south boi ! ! !

500th like!

Would you buy one with 283k for 12 thousand?

@butters5098

2 жыл бұрын

That’s wayyy to much for that. I would say that’s worth like 6-9k

384k on my lbz

Aye whistlin diesel

Bust it

I just bought one in texas for 4 grand😂

@ciscorodriguez757

3 жыл бұрын

How you like it?

@Sylk15

3 жыл бұрын

Lucky