I believe that no matter what is done to improve the security features of these or any coins the counterfeiters will find a way to replicate them. Its like fighting a losing battle.

@CADRollHunter

8 ай бұрын

You're probably right. We can try to keep a step or two ahead of them, but they'll adapt. They always do.

Very interesting video Also enjoy the video on the new King Charles coins

@CADRollHunter

8 ай бұрын

Thanks, Dana! I appreciate it! Trying a few new and different things!

About a year ago or so, a freight train passing through Manitoba into Wisconsin was searched and US customs seized 900000 counterfeit $1 US notes. Who would question them in circulation?

@CADRollHunter

8 ай бұрын

Incredible. It really does make you wonder how many made it through and are out there!

"Polar bears don't have hoofs" 😂 if you ever do merch, that needs to end up on a t-shirt!

@CADRollHunter

8 ай бұрын

Lol!! That would be an epic Tee!!

Based on the LaPresse article, it appears counterfeiters have 'perfected' the new security features but still made a major error on the reverse where the $ sign replaces the numeral 2 and Canada is repeated twice. Betting it won't be long before we see some in circulation as there are bound to be more opportunists out there taking a gamble and trying to get rich.

@CADRollHunter

8 ай бұрын

It's likely just a matter of time before we see these ones, too!

I'm confused as to why Canada doesn't demonetise the 1996-style toonies lacking security measures. UK did so with the round pound coins a few years back with great success...

@CADRollHunter

8 ай бұрын

That's the logical response. I think the first step in dealing with a problem is acknowledging the problem. I don't think the Mint or the governement have quite done that yet!

@digginggopher

8 ай бұрын

I pull 1996 toonies out of the ground all day long, hope they dont demonitise them

@anemptychannel3484

8 ай бұрын

@@digginggopher Yes. At least give the collectors a few years to take what they want!

@rikb69

8 ай бұрын

There are 2012 fakes with the security feature also, so that would be pointless.

Still just have 4 Toonies, 2 real 1996 and 2 2014 Remembrance.

I’ve actually refused to accept some fake toonies at my job, ive also found many in the registers unfortunately.

@CADRollHunter

8 ай бұрын

I imagine most folks would be surprised to learn they have a fake toonie!

@Dabawz_Lafrance

8 ай бұрын

@@CADRollHunter yeah, exactly!

Nice

@CADRollHunter

8 ай бұрын

Thanks!

He was just a counterfeit collector he wasn't going to us them. 😂

@CADRollHunter

8 ай бұрын

Exactly! His next purchase was a display case for 26,000 coins so he can show them off! ;)

@martinstreasurehunting

8 ай бұрын

@@CADRollHunter 🤣🤣🤣

Thanks for the info, hope none of us run into too many while hunting!!

@CADRollHunter

8 ай бұрын

Same here - thanks!

Just looked in my change jar at the only toonie in my jar. It's fake lol.

@CADRollHunter

7 ай бұрын

Yikes! Odds are that everyone's had one at some point!

A $2 coin selling for 2 cents should have raised a giant red flag 🚩. Besides 20,000 coins just to have them is crazy.You know and he knows that he was reselling them.

@CADRollHunter

8 ай бұрын

And I'm sure sure it won't take too long for another storefront to pop up online.

Still hunting for my first fake, but that's a good sign

@CADRollHunter

8 ай бұрын

You probably won't have to look too long!

It's a shame that this happens a lot of time than people would expect

@CADRollHunter

8 ай бұрын

True - most people have no idea at all!

Apologies if you did mention it at some point, but do they weigh out the same as legit toonies? I'd imagine vending/change/Coinstar machines would be a common way to get rid of these.

@CADRollHunter

8 ай бұрын

They're typically lighter the the legit toonies, so that would be one way to identify them.

Disturbing impact to Canada. :(

@CADRollHunter

8 ай бұрын

Agreed!!

A guy on Reddit found one of those fake color Armistice toonies. From the 2 photos he posted, I don't think they're particularly good ones. I'd like to post the photos or the link here, but since KZread sucks so much...

@CADRollHunter

8 ай бұрын

Can you email me the link? cadrollhunter@gmai.com That would be awesome!

I can't believe this is still a problem... it really seems to be getting worse, too. I did a 10 roll $2 hunt and found 8 of them. I've mostly stuck to shop hunting for hunting for toonies now, which is just as successful! ..but every second shop I ask at has at least one fake $2 coin... When I do my shop hunts, I always show the cashiers a colored coin to show them what I am looking for. Sometimes, people respond to me and say "I've never seen one of those, but I'll check..." and are surprised to find a 2022 or 2023 colored toonie inside. I even got some crazy foreign coins, like a 2 franc coin or a 500 lire commemorative (no idea how if their currency changed 20 years ago..!). If those can enter into circulation here in Canada, anything can - and, yeah, as you've said, it's really only collectors or expert who keep an eye out for these counterfeits... In Europe we have a problem with fake 2 euro coins as well, they've definitely been appearing in my change more and more often. Luckily in Austria when you deposit coins you do so at a machine, so they almost always get stopped at the deposit machines and hence usually dont show up in rolls, but they don't have those everywhere. It does make me wonder if we will redesign some coins to add security features, as the euro coins's security features are terrible compared to Canadian coins...

@CADRollHunter

8 ай бұрын

Interesting - I didn't realize the 2 Euros were being faked, as well. I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same factories...

@cadeurhunter

8 ай бұрын

@@CADRollHunter I'm not too sure about that, as from what I've read in a recent Reuters article, the most likely place of origin seems to be Kosovo (which is not in the eurozone but uses the euro). Lots of people from southern europe travel to Austria very frequently, so it's not too surprising why some may show up here. It's quite bad in Kosovo as well, some cashiers outright reject 2 euro coins. Of course it's also possible that they are made in China and released into circ in Kosovo. What's funny is that sometimes the counterfeiters are a little 'creative' and make fakes of coins which don't exist, such as Germany's regular 2 euro from 2009 😅

@CADRollHunter

8 ай бұрын

@@cadeurhunter Thanks for the additional info. It's fascinating learning about this!

It boggles my mind. There's no way that gentleman just wanted some counterfeit toonies.

@CADRollHunter

8 ай бұрын

I know, right?!

ARGHHHHHUH COUNTERFIT

Pull all 1996, 2004,2005, 2007 toonies. Start replacing those years First. With toonies made of $1 & $2 Polymer notes. Start replacing other years as needed. Have CSBA start a campaign to check all items from China that are of weight suspicion. And of course blame Tim's free WiFi too lol.

@CADRollHunter

8 ай бұрын

Interesting ideas - and yes, Timmie's wifi bears a lot of responsibility!! ;)

Ive imported coca leaf into canada,, huge ass box of 1000 teabags, with hand written addresses, passed customs no problem, not even sure if my box was inspected, it had tape on it but the shipper might have been the one to tape it I also imported fineasteride before I could get a legit script, same thing except it was a very tiny packages with low stated value, but made it through a few time I ordered Customs can't stop shiiii in my experience, they just have so many packages and so little man force and corporations expect thier products to be shipped quickly with minimum fuss, so I'm sure that adds an angle, if they searched every package very rich people would get upset thier product ismoving slow

@CADRollHunter

8 ай бұрын

Very true, for sure. They'd have to have really good reason to open anything up - they just don't have the workforce to do much more.

This is one of the reasons the world powers wants to digitalize our currencies, James. That will be the day coin collecting dies.

@anemptychannel3484

8 ай бұрын

Digitalizing currencies is just a way for the government to control our money. I think counterfeits are better than government control.

@CADRollHunter

8 ай бұрын

I hope it's far, far, far off!