The advantage of the W&N burnt sienna, in addition to its glowing transparency, is that it grays out perfectly with their French ultramarine. Traditional burnt siennas (Pigment brown 7) are significantly more opaque than the ones made with transparent red iron oxide PR101.

My favorite Burnt Siena is the one from Winsor&Newton

Thank you so much Nathan! I love Burnt Sienna, and really enjoyed this video. My favorites are also the Holbein, for a more golden BS, and the R. Szmal It.BS when I want a more reddish brown. Another favorite is Daniel Smith's Quin Burnt Orange. While not a Burnt Sienna, I often use it in place of one, especially for autumn leaves. It is absolutely gorgeous!

My longtime favorite is Holbein. I also like the granulation of Qor's burnt sienna. Both are PBr7. Tfs.

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

Is the Qor more on the brown or orange side?

@jrm2716

2 жыл бұрын

@@JayNathanWatercolor same tone as Holbein.

Thanks so much, Jay. I've always used Winsor & Newton's Burnt Sienna and I really like it. Out of the others you swatched, I like the Holbein the best.

The van Gogh burnt sienna I use do not have black in it. It's a single pigment paint made of PR101. When thinned down it looks more like an orange and has a very nice transparency. I've tried using other burnt Siennas(pbr7) but I prefer the van Gogh version

Rembrandt's Burnt Sienna has a place in my heart - and palette. ^^ Even though it's not as glowing as most of the other brands, it has a natural texture and a soft granulation I quite enjoy. I'd love to try Da Vinci's, Holbein's and M.Graham's, or even W&N's. They are just gorgeous!

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

I like the Rembrandt too. It has done a great job for me over the last 12 months or so. I just really like the Holbein and W&N. 😊

I brought the Mijello dark burnt sienna. Had same issues, but i salvage it by misting it with water before working, so it rewets decently!!!

I like all burn watercolor i have burn oranger (po48)it look like beautiful than any burn color I using before

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

I quite like the PO48 I have too 😊

I love the Holbein. But I'll probably replace it with the Winsor and Newton once I finish it, unless a friend goes to Japan again.

Great comparison! Thank you!

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

You're very welcome 🙏☺️

Thank you, Jay!!!!

The WN and Holbein versions of burnt sienna are gorgeous!

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

They are 😊

DaVinci Burnt Sienna is fantastic...beautiful and so nicely granulating.

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

It is very nice ☺️

This was a real eye opener. The Rembrandt, Da Vinci, & Van Gogh would all work for me.

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

Glad the video was useful to you. I'd be happy using any of those 3 too. ☺️

@NanaBeth1

2 жыл бұрын

@@JayNathanWatercolor Now that you have more paints, maybe you could do a yellow ochre comparison. I'd love to see that.

There's large brown colors made by rare brown pigments in Schmincke so their choice to make the burnt sienna is very strange. In France, it's so difficult to find Da Vinci or M. Graham water colors. 😢 Thank you for this comparison.

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

You're very welcome ☺️ Thank you for watching and commenting 🙏

In my Palette I actually have 3 different Burnt Sienna's Turners Mission Gold Single pigment Burnt Sienna made with PR 102 and Da Vinci's. In this way i have a very orange one in turners, Da Vinci is my favourite much more red with an almost pink undertone which I don't think was effectively picked up on your camera. Mission Golds came in a set and I didn't like it at first, it was very dull with a yellow undertone but I use it like a burnt umber instead and it works great. I also have a tiny tube of Holbein which is very similar to the turners except it granulates less.

I love how the Holbein looks! I have and use Da Vinci & Daniel smith. I prefer DS Burt Sienna because I also like to have trans red oxide and it’s the least orange burnt Sienna I found

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

I quite like the trans red oxides too. I'm not sure I'd need both a burnt sienna and TRO in my palette though.

Rembrandts Sienna si the best

My fav is the Da Vinci version, followed by Roman Szmal and then M Graham. I think I gravitate to the more brown burnt siennas 😂 Great vid as always, I love watching your comparisons. I'm lucky I live an hour away from the Da Vinci home base here in California.

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much 🙏 I used to gravitate towards the browns too but for some reason I'm loving the orange ones more these days.

@aeli999

2 жыл бұрын

Ooh so lucky. I got introduced to Da Vinci by another KZreadr and I fell in love.

I love this color and I loved seeing all the examples. I have DaVinci ... I also have an OOOOOLD tube of Winsor and Newton I got from a friend with no pigment info in the back. It does not look like their current PR101 version but I can't even tell what date the tube is from (the paint inside is still great).

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

It's amazing how long some of these paints can last and still be perfectly useable. I was sent some 20+ yet old paints to test and they worked beautifully.

My first love W&N PR101. Now, I usually use a PBr7 Burnt Sienna (any brands). The Rembrandt though 😍. Burnt Sienna is a staple in whatever palette I use. Thanks for the review 👏

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

You're very welcome 🙏

Thank you very much.

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

You’re welcome ☺️

I used to use Winsor and Newton's Burnt Sienna, but I have switch to Jackson's art Venetian Red which is made from the same PR101, except it's more red leaning and less orange.. which means when mix with Ultramarine Blue, it's produce a dark with purple undertone which I think it's more interesting than just the grey the usual Burnt Sienna and Ultramarine mixes.

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

I love the red PR101s my main reds in my landscape palette are Indian red and light red. 😊

A lot of watercolors are used in the video, I also used watercolor but never used the watercolors you recommend. I also took a look at the watercolors you recommend in the video description, I am considering getting one of them.

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

That's great! I hope you enjoy using them ☺️

I love seeing the name comparison, it's helpful but a salt test would make them even better. Maybe you can think about lightfast tests as well in the future 🤔. Well done and thank you 😊

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching and commenting 🙏

I have WN and DaVinci burnt sienna. My favorite is WN but probably because I used it first. I use the DaVinci quite a bit also.

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

I like both of them too ☺️

i've been using davinci's burnt sienna and quite like how easy it rewets :D

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

It's great isn't it? I'm really enjoying using the Da Vinci paints. 😊

Great videos, thanks. After testing almost all major brands, I have to say that for me Holbein has the best quality. I feel they have the "know how" and also that they put great care and profesionalism in their products. Then M graham and then Daniel Smith (mostly because I feel is are not as trusty as Holbein and M Graham).

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

I love Holbein too. Definitely one of my favourite brands.

What about trying quinacridone rust, quinacridone burnt orange and quinacridone sienna? How do they compare with these burnt siennas??? Just a thought... Thanks for all of the comparisons that you do!!!

@JayNathanWatercolor

Жыл бұрын

Great idea 😊 You're very welcome 🙏

I think I remarked something along the same lines on your last vid, if it isn't made with PBr7 it isn't burned sienna. And it is kinda weird Mijello can only make it from a 3 pigment mix 😳, or else cement...? Good reason for me to avoid that particular brand altogether. And though the colours don't look bad, I kinda dislike having black in it..

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

Haha I used to think that too but the W&N is just so nice 🤣

Hi! Any chance of future videos being comparisons of quin burnt orange (PO48) and possibly cadmium red deep paints? The second one I suspect not really due to the price but it’d be incredibly useful. Love your vids!!

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much. I would do those comparisons but I only have one PO48 and only one or 2 cadmium Red Deeps now I think. If I do get any more I'll be sure to do a comparison.

Some look so close to being called Burnt Umber or Burnt orange, but I use all 3 anyways

Favorites are Windsor, Da Vinci and Roman. I'm actually suprised how many mixes Schmincke uses for their paints. Just find it odd for such a highly rated line. 🤔

Those are so different they almost make a palette! I like them all i think. The da vinci looks great. I mostly use pr101 but have a couple of pbr7 based as well. For pr101 i use w&n or schmincke, they just glow. For pbr7 i use white nights. Unpopular opinion alert: I have daniel smith pbr7 as well but im not a fan 😅

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

Haha don't let the Daniel Smith groupies hear you say that. 🤣

@magentaindigoart

2 жыл бұрын

@@JayNathanWatercolor true, haha! I was very surprised when I first used it, to be honest. That's because I never had a pBr7 Burnt Sienna until then, I was using the W&N for years, for my brown pen & ink illustrations. the DS PBr7 didn't layer well, it granulated, it lifted..it was a hot mess when I tried to use it the same way 🤣 But I do love the mixes with ultramarine, so I learned to use it in other painting styles ^_^

@magentaindigoart

2 жыл бұрын

Oh, I forgot to mention that I keep both types in my permanent palette. At the moment I keep Schmincke PR101 in a large well and DS PBr7 in a half pan. (My permanent palette is a modified Fusion 18 well palette that holds additionaly 48 half pans or 24 full pans in the mixing area)

Aren't DaVinci great?? They sort of remind me of Schmincke, the way they flow and disburse so evenly. I just discovered them recently, wish I had known about them sooner. I'm replacing a lot of my Daniel Smith with them as I run out!

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

Yes I really like them. I still think I prefer W&N and Schmincke but for the price (in the USA) I think Da Vinci are hard to beat

Surprisingly,I like the M Graham version because it is more red in tone?? Second choice is DaVinci for me,but neither are available to me . Great selection of browns!

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

The M.Graham is very nice. I will definitely be experimenting with it a bit. 😊

I have the Da Vinci and Daniel Smith Burnt Siennas (surprise! 😂). I prefer the Da Vinci. I also have the Mission Gold version (not the brick) but I don't like it as well. That Roman Szmal is lovely too. So many brands, so little ready cash. Oh well. Eventually I'll get to try them all, by which time there will be 100 more brands to try. I also have Winsor & Newton's, but it irritates me because it's the wrong pigment. I have my swatches sorted by pigment number so theirs is with the reds instead of browns. Somehow that's W&N's fault and not mine. 🙄🤣

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

Haha. You sound much more organized than me. I never even keep my swatches 😂

Like pbr7 best

The Mijello Mission Gold Burnt Sienna is very odd. Three pigments!

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

It's a strange mix but a beautiful color ☺️

Van Gogh