BULK .22LR SERIES - FEDERAL CHAMPION 36 gn CHP, Lilja CZ457 and Tikka T1X

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In todays video I shoot 2 types of Federal Champion, the 36 grain CHP and the 40 grain LRN. Todays rifles are the Custom CZ457 Lilja Barreled rifle and the Tikka T1X Factory Action PDC Custom Chassis rifle just like the last 2 videos in the series. How does this ammunition stack up to the AutoMatch and the Blazer? Watch and find out!
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Blazer Video Link:
• CCI BLAZER 525 Bulk Am...
Federal AutoMatch link:
• BULK .22LR SERIES - FE...
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  • @bigtrev761
    @bigtrev76110 күн бұрын

    🇦🇺😎👍Federal champion $69.90/525 or $649/5250 at a cheap place sth east Queensland Australia….. I thought that ammunition was bad value. Great video

  • @nelsonm5032
    @nelsonm503219 күн бұрын

    Great vid Don. the only federal my 457 likes is the gold medal target! about on par with tac22. looking forward to the next one, Cheers

  • @rayweir9903
    @rayweir990317 күн бұрын

    I’m liking the series!

  • @RimfireSS

    @RimfireSS

    17 күн бұрын

    @@rayweir9903 thanks man

  • @farleyjj1
    @farleyjj117 күн бұрын

    Good series. Great video editing!!!!😮

  • @RimfireSS

    @RimfireSS

    17 күн бұрын

    @@farleyjj1 thanks man

  • @sapago4166
    @sapago416614 күн бұрын

    I mentioned on another video that this stuff has been trash in all my rifles. I'm actually surprised by how well your CZ shot it. Glad you are doing this. Maybe Federal will see this and up their rimfire game.

  • @RimfireSS

    @RimfireSS

    13 күн бұрын

    @@sapago4166 way better than the Winchester 333. Your not going to be impressed. Lol it’s bad.

  • @sapago4166

    @sapago4166

    13 күн бұрын

    @RimfireSS lol. I can't wait to see it. I bet that one will ruffle some feathers.

  • @johnstewart2011
    @johnstewart201119 күн бұрын

    Thanks again for a comprehensive test. I appreciate your going to the extra time, effort, and expense to provide meaningful sample sizes (unlike so many other channels) under valid test conditions (unlike so many other channels 😉).

  • @RimfireSS

    @RimfireSS

    19 күн бұрын

    @@johnstewart2011 no problem. Thanks for commenting

  • @creedmoore3210
    @creedmoore321021 күн бұрын

    Please try the Aguila Super Extra bulk pack 40 gr. and 38 gr. HV copper plated. I've had better luck with this stuff than Federal AutoMatch. I like your format a lot! Thanks!

  • @JCJustice-kv2gy
    @JCJustice-kv2gy21 күн бұрын

    Thanks

  • @johngarrett6256
    @johngarrett625621 күн бұрын

    Don I don't want to be so negative it not your videos I love your videos.what tic's me off is the USA can't make good 22 ammo.You have to get English or German ammo if you want good quality ammunition, and to me that is sad 🤔😟😟😟

  • @RimfireSS

    @RimfireSS

    21 күн бұрын

    Absolutely my point, and what would happen if shit goes bad and that ammunition is not available to us anymore. We’re stuck with this 💩! That thought is absolutely unacceptable to me, 😂

  • @brendonbenson

    @brendonbenson

    21 күн бұрын

    Cheap ammo is easy to come by in Cornwall UK but the good stuff is still hard to come buy. 😢

  • @edjett2631
    @edjett263121 күн бұрын

    This confirms my experience with Federal bulk, although I have had better luck with automatch. My rifles are not as high dollar as yours.

  • @RimfireSS

    @RimfireSS

    21 күн бұрын

    Most rifles no matter what you paid for them can shoot good if you use a good ammunition. Actually, that’s what makes all the difference in my rifles. Those fantastic groups I shoot are a product of a decent quality barrel and a good ammunition. It makes all the difference.

  • @takedeadaim8671
    @takedeadaim867121 күн бұрын

    Can you imagine how frustrating it must be to be a kid nowadays. The cheap stuff shot better than that with open sights

  • @matthewjames9167
    @matthewjames916721 күн бұрын

    Thanks Don for this series. It answers a lot of questions. Mainly how cheap is “cheap” ammo. Again thanks!

  • @RimfireSS

    @RimfireSS

    21 күн бұрын

    Yeah, you used to be able to get good ammunition for 10c per round. This crap used to be like .05

  • @kindwarf
    @kindwarf20 күн бұрын

    I shoot a lot of .22 rf benchrest 25yd in the UK and one of the most popular brands is RWS R50 but its quite expensive. We also use Lapau Centre X, but that's gone from £163.00 a thousand to £230.00 a thousand, don't know how much RF ammo is in the US.

  • @RimfireSS

    @RimfireSS

    20 күн бұрын

    @@kindwarf the price is getting ridiculous, and very hard to find when you want it. Especially the good stuff like your talking about. But, that’s the stuff you need if you want anything remotely consistent. If you just want to pull a trigger and don’t care if you hit what you’re aiming at, buy American made .22.

  • @vernonarmstrong3738
    @vernonarmstrong373821 күн бұрын

    Best bulk I have ever found has been federal automach. Which is kinda odd cause everything else federal STINKS.

  • @RimfireSS

    @RimfireSS

    21 күн бұрын

    AutoMatch is at the top of the list on the series so far.

  • @Bob-ux8sn
    @Bob-ux8sn21 күн бұрын

    Thats why you leave on Wally World shelf. Thanks for this experiment 👍

  • @RimfireSS

    @RimfireSS

    21 күн бұрын

    Only bought it for the video. Wanted fresh off the shelf ammo Incase these manufacturers made improvements to there lines. Apparently, they didn’t. Lol

  • @rapidrrobert4333
    @rapidrrobert433321 күн бұрын

    I had good luck with Federal Auto-Match ... until I didn't. Lot to lot

  • @RimfireSS

    @RimfireSS

    21 күн бұрын

    That’s kinda a theme with .22lr, no matter who makes it. Lot to lot there’s a difference. Some manufacturers have larger differences than others. Seems to follow the price.

  • @jeffreypelletier7247
    @jeffreypelletier724721 күн бұрын

    That new Eley super duper long range seems to shoot bout like some federal auto match lol kinda seems like Eley flopped on that one… can’t wait for RWS to come back in stock

  • @RimfireSS

    @RimfireSS

    21 күн бұрын

    I seen that! I almost bought 2 bricks of it but figured someone else could test it. I did the same with the Norma Long range stuff. I figured if it was good then I’d buy some. Lol

  • @kindwarf
    @kindwarf20 күн бұрын

    As you will appreciate when you are shooting at a 2mm dot at 25 yds you need consistency, specialy if its windy.

  • @brendonbenson
    @brendonbenson21 күн бұрын

    Fair play for spend your own money on crap ammo. On a plus side we don't have any 22 ammo that cheap in the uk Cheapest stuff i can think of is rem golden bullet maybe one to add to the mix

  • @RimfireSS

    @RimfireSS

    21 күн бұрын

    I just bought a fresh box of it today for the next video.

  • @chrislang5659
    @chrislang565921 күн бұрын

    And that's the reason most folks think .22's aren't accurate!😮

  • @paulklescht1029
    @paulklescht102921 күн бұрын

    I know the feeling about that ammo i tried the 40 gr in my tikka bone stock rifle 1245 fps average,32 es,11.92 sd

  • @SiliconeSword
    @SiliconeSword21 күн бұрын

    Have you seen any of the squeeze bore barrels? I think VSeven makes one that sizes down to .20 and supposedly increases power and range

  • @timetodopatriotstuff2315
    @timetodopatriotstuff231521 күн бұрын

    Don I bought some Browning Pro Hunt ammo it has a real weird crimp in the casing at the base of the bullet and I was getting 4" to 6" groups out of it at 50 yards surprisingly enough the Blaser junk shot real well.

  • @RimfireSS

    @RimfireSS

    21 күн бұрын

    I think I have some of that Browning here. Lol. I think the Blazer wasn’t horrible, it’s at #2 in the series so far.

  • @jerryhoogeveen
    @jerryhoogeveen21 күн бұрын

    Really digging this cheap ammo stuff. Very interesting to see how much of a difference ammo actually makes. Are you planning on running any CVI SV?

  • @Quality_Guru
    @Quality_Guru21 күн бұрын

    Curious if cleaning the ammo with alcohol to remove the cheap lubricity and then spray them with Hornady One-Shot for a dry lube would narrow the group. You were talking about grime in you mags perhaps that is the culprit.

  • @dragonrider385
    @dragonrider38521 күн бұрын

    👍👍

  • @jamesbasile9586
    @jamesbasile958621 күн бұрын

    I had similar results with the Federal Gold Medal ammo. It shot like bulk ammo. I stay away from Federal ammo.

  • @RimfireSS

    @RimfireSS

    21 күн бұрын

    It’s a shame, the gold metal match used to be a very good ammunition. It was used in the Olympics. Lol, not anymore.

  • @marktracht7782
    @marktracht778219 күн бұрын

    Don you seemed to mention by Eley Contact from the Eley website but while I can find data on it I can't find a link to buy it there. Can you help me out there? I'm using the Federal 49 gr Range Pack for my lever guns and pistols now.

  • @rayweir9903
    @rayweir990317 күн бұрын

    I think the difference in bulk ammo shows up more in them high end barrels more so than regular spotter barrels with sporter cut chambers?

  • @RimfireSS

    @RimfireSS

    17 күн бұрын

    @@rayweir9903 the match (Bentz) chambers will always shoot better that a sporter in my experience. But honestly this series is the first time I’ve been able to bring myself to put bulk ammo through any of the rifles I depend on for precision. Lol so this is all new to me as well.

  • @adamyankie5252
    @adamyankie525221 күн бұрын

    Head spacing on the tika? Or maybe difference in custom barrel to factory?

  • @jamesmelton818
    @jamesmelton81821 күн бұрын

    I think I paid $65 for the 800 round range pack. It patterns like bird shot - 3 inches in my Winchester. It will just be plinking ammo along with my other bulk crap. My Savage B22 loves Contact best of the Eley I've shot. I try to order several boxes of it when I can find it.

  • @RimfireSS

    @RimfireSS

    21 күн бұрын

    I have in stock notifications at a few different site waiting for the Contact to come in. Hard to beat for the price.

  • @arnoldmoos1791

    @arnoldmoos1791

    19 күн бұрын

    I have seen the range pack shoot amazing for cheap stuff in a Douglas 28-inch barrel and in an old BSA Martini mark 2

  • @jamesmelton818

    @jamesmelton818

    19 күн бұрын

    @@arnoldmoos1791 I have a Mark II and Ruger 10/22 on order so with 800 rounds I have plenty to test with. Like most bulk it's still great for shooting steel and targets, just hasn't helped in precision.

  • @adamyankie5252
    @adamyankie525221 күн бұрын

    By head spacing I mean wonder how crazy different the rim thickness is on the ammo

  • @setapart1forever
    @setapart1forever21 күн бұрын

    Champion 40 grain used to b my go to but since ammo armageddon it's all gone down hill

  • @RimfireSS

    @RimfireSS

    21 күн бұрын

    Seems to be the case with ammunition across the board. No matter the caliber or manufacture none of it is what it once was.

  • @cw2a
    @cw2a21 күн бұрын

    Worst ammo I ever used!! Id rather shoot thumderbolts!!! ❤❤

  • @RimfireSS

    @RimfireSS

    21 күн бұрын

    Think Thunderbolts are going to be next.

  • @cw2a

    @cw2a

    21 күн бұрын

    @@RimfireSS 🇺🇸👍🏼🙏😜

  • @glenk2254
    @glenk225421 күн бұрын

    Aguila Super Extra test?

  • @RimfireSS

    @RimfireSS

    21 күн бұрын

    Yep, it’s coming

  • @Jeff-mv4yy
    @Jeff-mv4yy21 күн бұрын

    DON! I’d be afraid to put that stuff through a custom barrel😅

  • @RimfireSS

    @RimfireSS

    21 күн бұрын

    Lol, don’t think I wasn’t. I cringed every time I pulled the trigger.

  • @blakemontrose6111
    @blakemontrose611121 күн бұрын

    To be fair CCI SV is 4 bucks a box and I think it’d do a lot better than that champion.

  • @Justoneperson-hu3nh
    @Justoneperson-hu3nh19 күн бұрын

    That crap is ok in pistols. I would not let a Lilja barrel near that caca!

  • @rustynut1967
    @rustynut196721 күн бұрын

    💩Pew pew

  • @mikedunphy4428
    @mikedunphy442821 күн бұрын

    Try this out of stock barrel.

  • @RimfireSS

    @RimfireSS

    21 күн бұрын

    That’s what the Tikka is. Factory barreled action and trigger. Just has a PDC custom chassis.

  • @bfox87
    @bfox8721 күн бұрын

    Out of all the stuff ive tried that blue box stuff has probably been the worst

  • @robertratajczyk7248
    @robertratajczyk724821 күн бұрын

    Hedgerow or not...way too windy.

  • @RimfireSS

    @RimfireSS

    21 күн бұрын

    Nah. It was fine. I shot a few groups right before with SK long range ammunition and I shot 3 groups under .25. That was my test before I wasted my time filming.

  • @mlone7
    @mlone714 күн бұрын

    Federal Blue Box shoots lousy in all my guns. About the only thing that kind of likes them is my pistols.

  • @RimfireSS

    @RimfireSS

    14 күн бұрын

    @@mlone7 I just did a video of the Winchester 333 white box and well let’s just say it didn’t do well. I just keep getting disappointed every week with this bulk ammunition.

  • @jturner5227
    @jturner522716 күн бұрын

    Now you get to work on your copper removing skills.

  • @RimfireSS

    @RimfireSS

    15 күн бұрын

    @@jturner5227 I’ve got some BoreTech copper remover and it’s the best I’ve ever used. Let it sit for about 5 minutes then brush it out. Never had anything work like this stuff does. Easy Peasy.

  • @jturner5227

    @jturner5227

    15 күн бұрын

    @@RimfireSS boretech is amazing stuff.

  • @geordiegeorge9041
    @geordiegeorge904121 күн бұрын

    I know of no bulk ammo that shoots well. And to be truthful I know of no US .22lr ammo that shoots well. The main problem with US .22lr ammo is quality control. Try stripping down a box of Federal and weighing the bullet and powder load, you will be shocked.

  • @Quality_Guru
    @Quality_Guru21 күн бұрын

    Curious if cleaning the ammo with alcohol to remove the cheap lubricity and then spray them with Hornady One-Shot for a dry lube would narrow the group. You were talking about grime in you mags perhaps that is the culprit.

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