hats off to you mate its a massive undertaking for one man in his garage but after seeing what you've managed to do before im sure its gonna be fantastic when its done 👍

@claytonspeedcars

3 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@colinblick8946

3 ай бұрын

I had the pickup version …..now there’s a challenge 😂👌🏽….. I’ve subscribed so I’m lookin over your shoulder…..I wish you well with this project💪🏼

@claytonspeedcars

3 ай бұрын

@@colinblick8946 Thanks! Hope you enjoy how it pans out!

Stumbled on your channel by accident, but this is right up my street. So looking forward to seeing this project progress. 👌🏻

Shared this with a few Mates that have the 6 cylinder Australian Marinas over here in OZ. Going to be an interesting build I'm thinking. Cheers for sharing, Billy J.... Queensland, Australia.

@claytonspeedcars

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing. Yes it will be an interesting build. Certainly a head scratcher so far but it is coming along nicely!

@matthewc.419

3 ай бұрын

Yeah , same here

As a diy’er I remember gas welding my 1.8 marina just to keep it on the road, that was 40yrs ago, I’m in total awe, well done, look forward to seeing the future 👍

My Dad had a 4 door 'Brooklands Green' Morris Marina...............happy cildhood memories so good luck!

Had a coupé in 1983. Bought it so I could drive me and my flat mates to a party! Nearly rolled it before I realised the front dampers were shot. Scrapped it a few weeks later. Epic project you're doing. Good luck 👍😀

Ahh the Marina Coupe, the first car I was in during a crash with my mate back in ‘88, a total write-off but we walked away. Never see them anymore, I shall enjoy the series👍Subbed.

Fascinating Marina deconstruction and reverse engineering. Looking forward to watching progress - certain that with the quality of your project, it will be worthy of display at the British Motor Museum, Gaydon. Hats off!

@claytonspeedcars

3 ай бұрын

Well that is very kind of you to say! It will go to Gaydon on a day trip I'm sure once all done.

Cracking progress, looking forward to the next updates.

You-Tubes algorithm thought I'd like your channel. I love these home brewed conversions of BL cars. Many years ago I mated a Maxi shell to an Audi 100 engine/box and front suspension for circuit racing. Wot a flyer. TR7 to TR8 was a money earner for me when Sd1's and Trumpers were 2 a penny in the papers.. Best of luck with your build from a new subscriber.

@claytonspeedcars

3 ай бұрын

Thank you for stopping by! Maxi-Audi wow.

@10beerman

3 ай бұрын

With most 60's /70's cars it was easy( ish) with no HP fuel and "brains" to cobble together.. just good old fashioned measuring and a heap of CDF.. commondogf@@k

Wow, what a project. I wouldn't know where to start but I'll enjoy watching your progress! Good to see you back 👍

@claytonspeedcars

3 ай бұрын

Thanks! Great to be back. Hope you enjoy the series as it progresses.

What a project 👍

In 1977, I had a 1800 TC Coupe in ‘mustard’ - it sounded like an MGB ! 😁👍🏼

Dull Mens Club: Roy Haynes designed the Marina, & Harris Mann designed the TR7 (still my fave sports car btw)

@claytonspeedcars

3 ай бұрын

Harris also re-designed the face lifted Ital, not Ital design as so many people believe.

@keithnotts8055

3 ай бұрын

So, not looking to battle anyone, but what's the difference between drawing the design and finalising the engineering? I'm guessing both cars had a team involved to engineer post design, some team members likely to be common to both cars, both of which were built within the company ethos of that time?

@claytonspeedcars

3 ай бұрын

They may well have shared teams, but I had head that internal politics between marks sometimes got in the way. Having cut out the front chassis rails I'd say the construction was similar between the two cars but no different to any other monocoque chassis of the time i.e. central cross brace, forward running rails etc.

Interested to see what this does to the handling. My old saloon handled great with Spax adjustable telescopic dampers on a late Ital van mounting conversion so McPherson struts should improve on that

@claytonspeedcars

3 ай бұрын

It should give a little bit of balance with the steering rack now under the engine and the motor a little further backwards. Saying that, my turbo saloon handles like it is on rails with torsion bars, but is quite harsh with stiff rear springs and tighter telescopic dampers on the front.

Really good shell, best of luck pal!

Brilliant looking forward to seeing the rest

This is going to be awesome. Totally looking forward to seeing how this pans out!

@claytonspeedcars

3 ай бұрын

You and me both!

I loved my Marina Coupe. No pianos ever fell on it.

I remember in the early 70’s BL autocrossed a marina with a Rover V8 in it. The only body mod was a vented bulge in the front valance

@claytonspeedcars

3 ай бұрын

Yes it was WOK 107J an ex press car they modified. Then they built the V8 rally car for the '74 UDT rally along with a V8 pickup for custom car magazine. The trick was to use block hugger headers on the RV8 to clear the chassis rails and a manual gearbox from a P6 iirc? The valance bulge changed to a complete centre removal on the UDT car so the radiator could be placed in.

@matthewc.419

3 ай бұрын

@@claytonspeedcarsdid they make a v8 marina in Australia??? Or was it a 6 cylinder????

@philtucker1224

3 ай бұрын

@@matthewc.419there was a stock 6 cylinder made in Oz.

Beautiful project. Can't wait to see the progress

I had several Marinas including an export 1800 twin carb coupe! It was fast in the 80's!

I remember my Marina front suspension (trunnions) being terrible. There was a terrible rattle off it so I understand you going for TR7 suspension.

Fantastic, looking forward to Pt 3 👍

@claytonspeedcars

3 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

When you're finished with this one, that'll shut up the trio I should think. One crud thing about acid though, rockers, sills, plate & seam joints & framerails, are now stripped of what little protection they got from factory. ... Good luck with that 🤣

@claytonspeedcars

3 ай бұрын

I think it will. The shell needs approx. 25-30 panels plus new chassis rails, most of that is areas where the seams would be stripped as you say. Once completed the shell is being dipped and e-coated. Thanks for watching.

My dad had one, in burgundy with a plum velvet interior, looked great constantly broke down, foot well and boot filed up with water every time it rained, first time I heard my dad swear because it would not start on a cold day again, mum got on to him so swapped it for a 4 door cortina

Wide track Marina coupe? Am I in heaven?

@claytonspeedcars

3 ай бұрын

People say 'Why bother' or 'What if they had done this or that...' I say Why not! Stick around!

@spent808

3 ай бұрын

@@claytonspeedcars Damn skippy! Looking forward to the build!

Nice to see that not everyone is a member of the knobhead Clarkson fan club, great to see it being done, shame if it does get a Q plate tho.

@claytonspeedcars

3 ай бұрын

I think those days are over to be fair. Most people I meet are pleased to see Marinas out and about. As for the Q plate, a necessary evil really.

Really rather impressed by this looking forward to the next episode good luck with it.

@claytonspeedcars

3 ай бұрын

Thank you very much!

I used to work on these cars, I never missed them when the rust got the better of them.

Nice one Ben. Tango, my rally Coupe still has the original but heavily modified front suspension with coil overs

@claytonspeedcars

3 ай бұрын

Great to hear it is still about. I remember buying the old SD1 engine from Tango about 20 years ago!

@hotrodchris805

3 ай бұрын

Regrettably sad that the Q plate situation has to be accepted, but that's the law, if you want to stay on the safe side. But what about the biva test before that? Not insurmountable as I understand it, but not a walk in the park. Appropriately marked glass is I gather a usual issue, but nothing that ££££££'s doesn't fix.

@claytonspeedcars

3 ай бұрын

@@hotrodchris805 E marked glass, light lenses, radius no more than 2.5mm on outer edges... But yes, necessary evil and budgeting accordingly.

Yes mate some marina love 😊. Its a car on my list to own.

Good work geoff looking forward to seeing it at the nats😂😂😂

@claytonspeedcars

3 ай бұрын

Ha. You'll be lucky!

Back when Leyland Australia still existed an Engineer from there lived down the road among the different toys he used to bring home was a P76 Force 7V coupe and interestingly a Marina Coupe that ran a straight six 2.6 litre engine that sported among otherthings triple side draught Weber DCOE Carburettors and it was a weapon he said it was as quick as a Holen Torana XU1 so it was no slouch. Now that was a Prototype as was the Force 7V

What a fabulous project. You are a very brave man ... Just from my own experience as you have a complete bodyshell you should have the VIN / Chassis number. From that you may be able to retrieve the original registration number or if not claim an age related registration. I did this a few times with classic british motorbikes I restored / built and an old Mini. All you need then is an MOT. Good luck!

@claytonspeedcars

3 ай бұрын

The rules are a bit more complexed these days with the 8 point system and IVA testing to keep things legal. I hope you enjoy the journey!

Hi, I heard you mention the instalation of a TR7 front on to a Marina and that this was not BL's intention. I am not here to say your wrong, however back in 1977 I was under training on The E. I. T. B. training scheme. Towards the end of my course I was shown round the Cowley works with a view to becoming a tool maker. I visited many departments at Cowley including paint and trim departments and corrosion assessment on the SD1. I was show a vehicle which was something to do with safety assessment. It had things like automatic seat belts and I think a camera rear view mirror. I have always described the car as looking like a Marina with a TR7 nose. Apparently the low nose was a pedestrian safety feature. So in conclusion your statement may have some credance. 👍Cheers

@claytonspeedcars

3 ай бұрын

That would have been the SRV project cars. SRV2 is at Gaydon Motor Museum and is a saloon. There was a coupe as well I think, but it hasn't survived. The front end does look very TR7, so yes, some credance.

It's a rare shell I hope your good at welding and fabrication and body work as your going to be spending alot of time sorting all that old before any thing else but good it's just a shell so you can do wat you like to it good luck with it 👍

Epic…. You’ve inspired me to start my dream project 👍🏻👌🏼

@claytonspeedcars

3 ай бұрын

Go for it!

@noelwallace5257

3 ай бұрын

@@claytonspeedcars I only just found your channel and have subscribed, I’ll be looking at this with interest 👍🏻

i like a good concept car build i'll follow your progress , years ago i built my own version of a car Austin rover should have built , a Rover 25 pickup ,it got a lot of attention if i can find a pic i'll post it up .

From your description this is potentially a 'parts bin' car that BL could have built themselves, and could have made some money from. Looking forward to the next video.🙂

@claytonspeedcars

3 ай бұрын

That is pretty much what it will be! They did build at least one similar called AD077.

Very interesting project sir. I look forward to future episodes. Just to say, you managed to get more done in this one episode than the slackers at Project Binky (Bad Obsession Motorsports...in case you didn't know!), with their several hundred patrons, have done in the last three years. Here's hoping that you gain a similar generous following without the accompanying loss of work ethic. Ha! More power to your elbow sir!

@claytonspeedcars

3 ай бұрын

Once I get an idea in my head, I go all in! Thanks for your comment!

Really looking forward to seeing this build. Wasn't the 4 speed TR7 gearbox and back axle the same as the Marina?

@claytonspeedcars

3 ай бұрын

Pretty much on the early ones. I think they changed to 5 speed and SD1 style axle fairly quickly!

@Yorkyscott

3 ай бұрын

@@claytonspeedcars My parents had an early 4 speed TR7. Amazing looking car and in typical BL style it was a poorly executed car with some very advanced thinking

The body pressings look far more sophisticated then my 94 Discovery I am rebuilding the body on.

@claytonspeedcars

3 ай бұрын

Body on frame Vs monocoque I'd imagine. Different forces from the suspension into the rest of the car/chassis.

It's all about the Bitumen 🤣

Marina! My first car.

@andybtec

3 ай бұрын

I'm restomodding a Morris minor at the moment and no after market panels fit with out adjustment \ modification. Subscribed

this is a brave man .

Proper project that

Imagine if these had been built to this standard of care originally by BL? There might be a few more still around...

What engine are you planning Clay?

Might as well put a Rover V8 in it as the 1.8.

I'm doubly impressed that you're making the doors the right length - but also stretching the wheelbase out. Not many people would notice that, but it really needs doing to balance it out. So there's no commonality between the TR7 and the Marina? I'd have been surprised if there was. Just using what you know will work?

@claytonspeedcars

3 ай бұрын

There is, and there isn't. I'll try and explain it in the next episode.

Increasing the wheel base by 4 inches is absolutely enormous! (Are you fitting a longer 6 cylinder engine?)

@claytonspeedcars

3 ай бұрын

More cylinders yes, but I need the extra space for the cooling system and other goodies... All shall be revealed!

Looking forward to part 3 but is there a video for part 1 of this coupe build?

@claytonspeedcars

3 ай бұрын

Sort of... It is this one: kzread.info/dash/bejne/aKKnvJewpcmyj5c.html

I loved both my Marina’s. They just rotted away 😢

This came up as a suggestion and I was interested so I subscribed, however I can't find the previous video (part one) so I don't want to watch this one until I know what it is about, please send the link to part one, thanks in anticipation

@claytonspeedcars

2 ай бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/aKKnvJewpcmyj5c.html - This is Pt1. Thanks.

Surely a rover V8 in there as they did what a car that would be ??

I know you e cut the shell about but if you can convince IVA that you've used 3 main things from the 'donor car' you might be able to get an age related plate instead of a Q reg

@claytonspeedcars

2 ай бұрын

I thought it was two main things? Either way, something I need to research more on. Thanks.

@andybarbet73

2 ай бұрын

Or maybe get a TR7 log book, steering, suspension and rear axle, use that as the donor car, job done 👍

My brother had one. How could anything so simple be so unreliable?

What do you use for bare metal thats better than wd40??? Thanks in advance.

@claytonspeedcars

3 ай бұрын

It is called XCP Rust Blocker.

@mistersniffer6838

3 ай бұрын

@@claytonspeedcars - Thanks

It’s a shame the bare raw shell is not given a zinc phosphate coat to stop flash rust and protect the metal.

@claytonspeedcars

3 ай бұрын

It has a clear coat on the shell and once the metal work is finished it will be dipped again and 3-coated. I think I said that in the video. Thanks for watching!

i'm sure they made a coupe here in australia and had a 6 cylinder in it when leyland folded in aust they took the marina tooling back to england

@claytonspeedcars

3 ай бұрын

Yes! Leyland Australia built a 6cyl Marina. It had a different front valance to accommodate the extra cylinders and radiator.

@user-vq4gk4hx8p

3 ай бұрын

What engine type and capacity was the 6 cylinder?

@claytonspeedcars

3 ай бұрын

@@user-vq4gk4hx8p Largest was a 2.6cyl I think. It was basically a Maxi engine (E series) with 2 extra cylinders.

I bought a Marina 1.8 TC to use the engine in a kit car. OMG it was horrible. But the engine was good which was all I wanted.

Is this to be the V8 prototype replica? If so then wow, amazing car.

@claytonspeedcars

3 ай бұрын

Might be...

@gixxerman0016

3 ай бұрын

@@claytonspeedcars I really hope so, I can claim a Marina Coupe connection myself, my 1st car was an orange 1300 super coupe. Cost me £10 from a mate. Sadly I was young & lacked the skills to repair it (it really was bad underneath) but I've always had a real love of our own British cars (despite the standard media slagging). Best of luck with another really interesting project 👍👍

Where is part one? I don't see anything labeled as part one

@claytonspeedcars

2 ай бұрын

It is hidden in this video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/aKKnvJewpcmyj5c.html I'll rename it!

@PuncakeLena

2 ай бұрын

@@claytonspeedcars Thank you, much appreciated

Good grief and a piano hasn’t yet fallen out of the sky onto the marina yet, what is the world coming to, 😂😂. hmn, good luck with it, I must admit though it’s not a car I would be spending money on.

Lotus or TVR!

I didn’t say what year😂😂😂

Good shape but needed a V8

you should get an age related number if you go through the proper channels

@claytonspeedcars

3 ай бұрын

That would be nice. Any advice gratefully received.

coup eh

Effectively youve stripped all the cavity areas bare so they can rust in all the seams and cavities ....After 30 years restoring high end classics I know stripping in this manner without submerged primer coating is a joke .

@claytonspeedcars

3 ай бұрын

Considering it will be dipped again after the metal work and e-coated I think that has been covered. Thanks for watching.

Marins were a joke in Australia 😢

@48billy0

2 ай бұрын

Same here in the UK really. The joke was on me particularly as I bought two of them, brand new. I did work for BL at the time, so I did get a decent discount in my defence.

Most BL cars are now cubed. The steel was so shit, its not worth recycling.

marinas were awful cars when new.front suspension hideous.trunions that would constantly seize,grease them regularly?you didnt have to do that on any ford,just jump in and go.worst gearbox ever fitted to any car.gear stick turning like a pudding stick because side pin breaking.synchros useless from day one out of the factory.gears themselves whining or breaking totally.BL gave up making gearboxes because ..they couldnt,had to buy them from vw to use in maestro/montego.good idea but they decide to make their own linkage.ha!couldnt even get that right.gear change horrible and then all the linkage ball joints fail.absolute shambles of a company.rover 216 vs 213 no contest back in the day.BL couldnt make a decent gearbox or even a decent car so just got the japanese to do it.ha ha.k series head gaskets?list goes on and on.A series engine good though.any way,you plod on with your long door.wont be any worse than what BL could of made,now wheres the keys to my 3 litre capri...

Why would anyone want to restore one of these they were rubbish when new

@claytonspeedcars

3 ай бұрын

To make it better?!