Building my Mazda RX8 Rotary Engine (13B-MSP Renesis Build)

Автокөліктер мен көлік құралдары

I finally assemble my RX8 engine together with all new seals and housings. This was the first time I have ever built a rotary engine before, and it was very cool. Comment below, do you think this engine will start next week??

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  • @SamuelParish
    @SamuelParish3 жыл бұрын

    This was so therapeutic to watch

  • @13B.D
    @13B.D3 жыл бұрын

    I hope in the next one there's detail on putting the accessories back on because there aren't many videos of that on the internet. i love this series though!

  • @everythingexe

    @everythingexe

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes! that would be very useful

  • @reicalderon2295

    @reicalderon2295

    3 жыл бұрын

    I 100% agree . For my rebuild I took so many photos and still couldn’t get everything back on right . So I believe a nice detailed video will help out thousands of us

  • @chriscars96

    @chriscars96

    3 жыл бұрын

    100% agree. The more detail the better!

  • @titanpolus5088

    @titanpolus5088

    2 жыл бұрын

    100%

  • @singlecell2498

    @singlecell2498

    Жыл бұрын

    @@reicalderon2295 ever find anything?

  • @markflint2629
    @markflint2629 Жыл бұрын

    I was screaming NO when you mentioned the side seal clearance, this will be good.

  • @Forza_downhills
    @Forza_downhills3 жыл бұрын

    Glad this series exist blew my motor earlier today

  • @Carlos.Rivera

    @Carlos.Rivera

    3 жыл бұрын

    Did you disassemble it?

  • @RX-8GT
    @RX-8GT3 жыл бұрын

    Open heart rotary engine surgery , love it!

  • @oldrrocr

    @oldrrocr

    Жыл бұрын

    love it, and my RX7 (my 4th one) ... but an engineer in almost any discipline would look at the apex seal assembly and say: "That can't possibly work!"...but, somehow it does 😁😁😁

  • @rotaryperfection
    @rotaryperfection3 жыл бұрын

    Don't be afraid to use plenty of silicone around those lower legs of the rotor housings. Especially around the tension bolt hole. You seem to be a little frugal down there. 😉

  • @andyspinks9996

    @andyspinks9996

    3 жыл бұрын

    Was that the silicone he was using from the small tube? Didn't let on during video! Cheers

  • @neilcampbell6855

    @neilcampbell6855

    3 жыл бұрын

    I noticed that too, it might seep around those holes since there was no sealant around the holes. Also, no oil pan gasket needed, I use Toyota FIPG personally, but I know other people use Permatex Ultra Black with good results too.

  • @toast_fairy1419

    @toast_fairy1419

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@neilcampbell6855 its the right stuff thats the grey one it dries instantly

  • @joemurcia3527

    @joemurcia3527

    5 ай бұрын

    So should I order the gasket kit or go ultra black or ultra grey gasket maker all the way? Works great on piston engines, better than the paper junk but would like an opinion since it's a raotary and it's my first build.

  • @rotaryperfection

    @rotaryperfection

    5 ай бұрын

    @joemurcia3527 The main difference with sealing the rotary is that you have seems on the bottom due to the different plates being bolted together. Those are all potential leak points. Proper cleaning is key. Most will just wipe the surface and then use the silicone. That surface has to be absolutely residue free so the silicone can properly adhere to the metal. Use a good acetone or alcohol and rub the surface with a quality white paper towel that's folded. DO NOT rub back and forward because all you're doing is smearing the residue back and forth and not removing it. Wipe one time in one direction, then flip your paper towel to a clean side and wipe again. Your acetone should be wet on the entire towel. Every time you wipe, you should see dark residue on the towel. As long as you're seeing residue, it's not clean, so keep going while using new paper towels. Also, don't try to wipe multiple sides of the engine all at once. I do one side at a time until clean. You're gonna use lots of paper towles. Make sure you clean the oil oan flang the same way. Now grab the black 12 hr Permatex that's designed for oil pans and put a good bead on the engine side. Use your finger to spread out evenly. If you spread out and it's paper thin, add more silicone. Bolt on the pan to proper torque spec and leave that engine upside down for 12hrs so it dries. Too many people turn the engine over to finsh assembly, but the problem doing that is the internal assembly lub will start to leak down the inner walls and enter that sealant section and contaminate your silicone causing leaks. You do this right with a nice flat oil pan that isn't bent and it will NEVER leak.

  • @neoanderson7
    @neoanderson73 жыл бұрын

    Congrats on your first rotary build. It wasn’t as hard as you thought, right? 😉👍🏻 Hopefully she’ll fire right up and provide you with many km’s of fun. 👏🏻

  • @m.w.7429
    @m.w.74293 жыл бұрын

    Holy shit how am I this early and why does KZread know that I wanto buy an RX8 someday

  • @spacefleming5390

    @spacefleming5390

    3 жыл бұрын

    Facts

  • @zackrider3708

    @zackrider3708

    3 жыл бұрын

    the reason why wankel failed to replace the conventional inline-4 engine that we all use, is because of its terrible gas mileage and oil consumption

  • @andykwak3622

    @andykwak3622

    3 жыл бұрын

    not a dream, you can pick a good one in your area for probably less than 5k

  • @MarttiSuomivuori

    @MarttiSuomivuori

    3 жыл бұрын

    don't

  • @joemurcia3527

    @joemurcia3527

    5 ай бұрын

    I think the rx8 is under appreciated and misunderstood. Once you figure out solutions to the factory weaknesses they come with it can be a great motor and the car is very sexy. It's also a car not just anyone should own. I bought 2 lol I think some day they won't be as easy to find and values will go up.

  • @cre8tivegarage157
    @cre8tivegarage1573 жыл бұрын

    Perfect early morning content

  • @realweston
    @realweston3 жыл бұрын

    Dang it. Making me want a rx8! your making this rebuild look totally do able! 🤘 thanks for bringing me along for the rebuild G

  • @dantontominagas
    @dantontominagas3 жыл бұрын

    i think its crazy how we are about the same age, but ur 10x more mechanically inclined and have the balls to do this LOL right on. I've done a few things but nothing of this magnitude. Don't wanna break my R3

  • @redlinenissan372
    @redlinenissan3723 жыл бұрын

    Been watching this channel for long time, Recently bought a Rx8 and this broken Rx8 series came up perfect timing

  • @cassuhre7747
    @cassuhre77473 жыл бұрын

    i love this build love mazda. you are going great keep going 👍

  • @mazdarx8diy38
    @mazdarx8diy383 жыл бұрын

    Great Job Building that engine I learned allot from your videos, just bought my first RX8 and making videos on it as well, just had a starting issue but got it started

  • @joemurcia3527

    @joemurcia3527

    5 ай бұрын

    Sweet!

  • @RUBBERNUGG3T
    @RUBBERNUGG3T3 жыл бұрын

    Made it look easy. nice work.

  • @kaushikkalita7310
    @kaushikkalita73103 жыл бұрын

    love your content, awesome video, long live rotary engines

  • @braydonfisher6
    @braydonfisher63 жыл бұрын

    Really loved the video man. I've never touched a rotary myself, but it looks like you did well assembling it! Excited to check back to see how well you actually did ;') haha

  • @sonnelighting3565
    @sonnelighting3565 Жыл бұрын

    The opening line was so true 👍

  • @aaaaaiatoyomartelaaaa4489
    @aaaaaiatoyomartelaaaa44893 жыл бұрын

    Yess you upload again!!

  • @Juli_42o
    @Juli_42o3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video man, great job on rebuilding it. Can wait till next week to see that baby fire up for her first time 🤞🏽

  • @dulanajayawardena6445
    @dulanajayawardena6445 Жыл бұрын

    Keep it up mate, I was weighing up buying an RX8 for some time and stumbled across your channel, and your videos were one of the reasons for me to be so interested in the car! I'm about 1 year into my ownership of an '09 R3 in Red Mica and I've just enjoyed every moment of driving it. Where I live is perfect for this car because there's heaps of windy hills to do the occasional drifting on (That I fully took use of during COVID lockdowns!), the balance of this car is next level! I've fallen in love with these cars and their history, the next project for me is to get a totalled RX7 and rebuild it, although I might consider going all electric (Controversial sure among die-hard rotary fans but in my country, a conversion can be done for far less than what it costs in the US) with that and putting around 900KWs of power in it! Good luck in your journey as an RX-8 owner man, a redline (or 5) a day keeps a rebuild away!

  • @dombernier8642
    @dombernier86423 жыл бұрын

    my man !! been waiting for this one ! :D

  • @spacefleming5390
    @spacefleming53903 жыл бұрын

    I've been waiting for this moment. 🍿 😀

  • @avanjob205
    @avanjob2053 жыл бұрын

    Good luck with the rebuild .

  • @Arandagosa
    @Arandagosa3 жыл бұрын

    Very useful for my rebuild, hope I got still many many km until rebuild 😊greetings from Germany SE3P 250hp

  • @karenmurray3098
    @karenmurray30984 ай бұрын

    you wer concentrating mate ! great work 👍

  • @seandonnison7041
    @seandonnison70413 жыл бұрын

    I just rebuilt my Rx8 engine myself last weekend too 😂 got it built and back in the car and started within a weekend

  • @01blaster200
    @01blaster2003 жыл бұрын

    Keep up the good work ❤️Iove your vids man 💪💪💪

  • @lucasduck95
    @lucasduck958 ай бұрын

    Beautiful video❤

  • @sarilsabli6499
    @sarilsabli64993 жыл бұрын

    Love to see on the rotary rx8 rebuild

  • @charlesklassert7743
    @charlesklassert77433 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video! This series is inspiring me to rebuild my RX-8 engine I have laying around for a future project. I would just like to know what you used to clearance your side seals?

  • @mohamedaljack4622
    @mohamedaljack4622 Жыл бұрын

    Really very good explined for engine rx8

  • @sebastiank.7304
    @sebastiank.73043 жыл бұрын

    Great video!

  • @mplewp
    @mplewp3 жыл бұрын

    friend o mine just bought an RX8 at auction ...... so i know im gonna need this quick tutorial xD

  • @bloomergconsulting553
    @bloomergconsulting5533 жыл бұрын

    Lovely.I learnt Alot

  • @garydeandeery
    @garydeandeery2 жыл бұрын

    Love my rx8 had it 8 years

  • @AzuriteZ3
    @AzuriteZ33 жыл бұрын

    Mad lad! Kudos!!

  • @c.b.6350
    @c.b.63503 жыл бұрын

    I'll be doing this soon. My rx8 is doing great but I want to build the next engine myself. Have it as a backup ready to go.

  • @miguelneto2695
    @miguelneto26953 жыл бұрын

    Nice work!! Look forward to see the white smoke, from all vaseline, next week...

  • @robpalaz9459
    @robpalaz94593 жыл бұрын

    Yesss! I click like on these vids before they even start!

  • @foxmustangbeer
    @foxmustangbeer3 жыл бұрын

    THX for this cool vidéos

  • @rosshutchison6893
    @rosshutchison68932 жыл бұрын

    I seen vasaline and knew I'd watch it all.

  • @Rinnies_xX
    @Rinnies_xX2 жыл бұрын

    I just bought a rotary not knowing they was this different lol so I was scared thinking what troubles I’d run into if something happens this video made me realize its easier than a normal engine (to me anyways) so thank you for taking that stress away

  • @guitariste47

    @guitariste47

    Жыл бұрын

    I would bé scared to miss putting the Apex seals well...

  • @justinjachens4540

    @justinjachens4540

    6 ай бұрын

    Once you understand them a little bit they become a lot less then typical piston motors a lot less moving parts involved

  • @Soravia
    @Soravia3 жыл бұрын

    ALL moving parts need balancing. Trust me. They show themselves as soon as you put on balancer. NEVER believe "they don't need it". Put them on balancer and see for yourself. Otherwise byebye to bearings and say hello to housing chrome chatter marks

  • @DanielFernandesdlf
    @DanielFernandesdlf3 жыл бұрын

    wish he did a video on clearancing rotors but well done love the video

  • @SirPsychonautic
    @SirPsychonautic3 жыл бұрын

    before I say this, if you want, or have a rotary, do you RESEARCH! dont always trust the 1st guy you meet who says their an expert in rotaries. there is a shit ton of misinformation out there. Double check your info, then triple check it. that goes for me as well. pro tip that is almost always overlooked: FILE YOU SIDE SEALS! THEY AREN'T DROP IN! I dont know if you did that, but yea, side seals arent drop in. you need to file them down to proper spec between the seal and the corner seal (.004 is Mazda spec, but you could get away with .002 and get higher compression as long as the seal isn't binding.) another tip for others wanting to do the same thing, use assembly lube and Vaseline (or any other petroleum jelly) not regular motor oil. the reason for this is assembly lube or bearing grease likes to stick to things so it will protect your engine when starting up, and make sure the seals don't wear excessively when running for the first time. the motor will then gradually burn it off, so make sure you also change your oil within 500 miles. When starting a rotary for the 1st time it will have low comp, then slowly build back up to where you want it, another plus for assembly lube is that because it sticks to surfaces, it will keep a tight seal for that 1st startup.

  • @AndrewFerranRcjourneyz
    @AndrewFerranRcjourneyz3 жыл бұрын

    Bad ass dude

  • @briana8117
    @briana81173 жыл бұрын

    Like the videos so far! I just rebuilt my 04 6 port!! Why did you not go for soild corner seals and no silicone for oil pan? Im jealous of the new rotor housings, let them triangles fly!!!

  • @c9_beast336
    @c9_beast3363 жыл бұрын

    I wanted to see it drove actually and this was on my recommendation

  • @vasilissidiropoulos9553
    @vasilissidiropoulos95533 жыл бұрын

    Hey my friend! Your video it's to Short 🤣 I hope the next video is 20 or 30minute to watch🤪✌✌

  • @edwinclairmonte4984
    @edwinclairmonte49843 жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @BlakeLaidler
    @BlakeLaidlerАй бұрын

    Hey Mate, really enjoying the series, thanks for taking the time to make it :) Question: what did you use to clearance the side seals? i have seen all sorts of things from jigs in drill presses to hand grind wheel style tools.

  • @kevinmorales8094
    @kevinmorales80943 жыл бұрын

    Rotaries are awesome! I wonder who was the haters that put 2 thumbs down on this video! Shows that this person isn’t a fan of mazda. Good video bro I can’t wait till u put the motor in and show us!!

  • @lun7n

    @lun7n

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s because he assembled it a bit wrong, and skipped a lot of useful parts that could’ve been on film

  • @asilaydyingx6
    @asilaydyingx63 жыл бұрын

    9:08 ... hopefully you put the rubber o-ring for the stat gear... its hard to tell on camera.

  • @ScavengerJH
    @ScavengerJH3 жыл бұрын

    love it🥰

  • @jspvisuals4019
    @jspvisuals40193 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video- isn't there usually another step - like replacing rubber seals or something?

  • @mokokawi
    @mokokawi3 жыл бұрын

    Great man....can you show the details when you put back in...I might have to rebuild mine ,and want to use your videos as guide

  • @yeahnah6468
    @yeahnah64683 жыл бұрын

    I have a feeling it's the 2 thou (0.05mm) side seal clearance that has caused the low compression. I'm clearancing mine at the moment and I've found that pretty much anything under 0.1mm has a chance of binding and not being able to spring back in some cases. Mazda says 0.05mm - 0.15mm but I'm going to be going 0.15mm as my minimum, even slightly over should be perfectly fine.

  • @jamfd3s788

    @jamfd3s788

    Жыл бұрын

    i know thos comment is a year old but all i can do is pray you did not build your engine like that for your own sake lol side seals should be 1-3 thou of clearance

  • @lun7n

    @lun7n

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jamfd3s788he’s Keepin rx8s cheap

  • @RX-8GT
    @RX-8GT3 жыл бұрын

    "Bunch of lube "... haha, that's what she said 🥴

  • @kylemiller5178

    @kylemiller5178

    3 жыл бұрын

    hilarious.

  • @arxs8
    @arxs88 ай бұрын

    My friend told me about the pricing for apex seals and holy shit he wasnt lying.

  • @DanGamsby
    @DanGamsby3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the great video! Question. Where did you order your viton oil pan gasket from? Very hard to find any kind of gasket online and don't want to use sealant.

  • @spacefleming5390
    @spacefleming53903 жыл бұрын

    How to rebuild a rotary engine Step 1: Lube...lots of lube.... 😏 Edit: Awesome job with the rebuild! Very insightful and doing it step by step helps all of us who wants to attempt this kind of job 😀 . Cannot wait to hear it purr!

  • @FalseShxpherd
    @FalseShxpherd3 жыл бұрын

    Very impressive! How did you learn to build engines?

  • @guitariste47

    @guitariste47

    Жыл бұрын

    I suppose maybe with someone who showed him before or with the worshop manuels vidéo etc

  • @carlitosbarber4453
    @carlitosbarber44533 жыл бұрын

    Great!!💪👍👌

  • @michaeltaylor4271
    @michaeltaylor4271 Жыл бұрын

    I’ve seen guys use rubber bands to hold the apex seals in place when you are putting the rotor in the housing.

  • @R3TR0_420
    @R3TR0_4202 жыл бұрын

    I plan on getting a fc rx7 rotory for my first car and im trying to grasp the rotory mechanics and what not since I've only messed with a 302 or 351w, thx bro

  • @michealmeaden1300
    @michealmeaden13002 жыл бұрын

    He was so fast at the rebuild, i feel deceived, I want to see him take his time next rotar around

  • @bassmanNumber_KingRaze
    @bassmanNumber_KingRaze3 жыл бұрын

    Glad I recommended this video but I have some questions about the build? How much did it cost for everything, best advice for a beginner building one, is it preferable to build one on a engine stand, could you build mine😂?

  • @Gigabyte-df8yu
    @Gigabyte-df8yu3 жыл бұрын

    Hey Japanda. I've been a long time viewer of yours and have a question. My 2009 GT experienced a major overheating late October and literally "warped" the front iron, according to the Mazda technician who examined it, creating a coolant leak and necessitating a new MSP. If I want to achieve around 400-500 HP down the road from a turbo conversion, is it worth considering using an REW (RX-7) 13b instead due to it's lesser base compression? I also want to install a turboxs catless exhaust (legal here in Michigan) but because the REW has a different exhaust port than the MSP I'm afraid it might become incompatible. To note, I will also be having the new engine streetported. Any advice? If you see this and reply, big thanks to you. Love your content.

  • @uzvisheni
    @uzvisheni3 жыл бұрын

    So satisfying to watch. You are doing great! Your content is much better. Work on your script for future improvements, it seems that you improvised your lines or just literally said what you were doing at the time. Can't wait to see this engine start for the first time!

  • @tyrellroyster7959
    @tyrellroyster79593 жыл бұрын

    Should've done some porting before you put it back together, that would've been sick 😭. Loving the series though 👍🏾❤

  • @user-gk1se4qn4v
    @user-gk1se4qn4v3 ай бұрын

    Awesome video man. Do you remember how much it cost to rebuild it?

  • @toast_fairy1419
    @toast_fairy14193 жыл бұрын

    You didn't put grease on the back or front seal and no silicon on the pan 🙄

  • @MrAhoyGaming

    @MrAhoyGaming

    3 жыл бұрын

    My thoughts exactly

  • @zaneelliott7538
    @zaneelliott75383 жыл бұрын

    Can you make a video on everything you need to know about owning one? I would like to get one and am currently saving but since it’s a rotary which I’m not very familiar with idk all the stuff u gotta do to it and how often

  • @joemurcia3527
    @joemurcia35275 ай бұрын

    Well you were right and now it's my turn to perform rotary surgery. I'm just about to break it open and have the parts all professionally cleaned. Can't wait it build it back up. I'm not too worried about the motor assembly, it's putting all the crap back on and around the motor I hope I can remember where it all goes lol I've done piston engines but this is my first rotary build, i am pretty excited. I saw another channel where the guy used a ton of Vaseline and not oil as assembly lube , I guess it's whatever works for each person. Did you do any porting or oil pressure pellet upgrade? Anything I should consider or keep in mind to extend the life of the new motor that you did to yours?

  • @danielmarquez8568
    @danielmarquez85683 жыл бұрын

    dang that looked rather easy, its the taking it out and putting it back in that worries me

  • @K03sport
    @K03sport3 жыл бұрын

    I wanted a rotor as a desk ornament...then I saw new ones are US$600. On to my next dream. Might be cheaper to buy a neglected RX-7/8 and disassemble the engine myself.

  • @tjkilshot
    @tjkilshot Жыл бұрын

    Did you use gasket maker for the seals ? Im getting everything together for my 13B rebuild but I'm not sure if I need to get those new gaskets

  • @andrewmilligan6730
    @andrewmilligan67303 жыл бұрын

    @Japanda Tuning - Which oil are using to rub everything down with at the start?

  • @tastethegalaxy2573
    @tastethegalaxy25733 жыл бұрын

    Just to aks, the oil used for the rottor housing is the one that you use for the car right, just to be sure.

  • @vesperfc3s
    @vesperfc3s2 жыл бұрын

    What sealant did you use on the sealant channels on the feet of the housings

  • @raz4371
    @raz4371 Жыл бұрын

    wow rotarys are ahead of its time even though you get only like 100k miles you can easily rebuild it yourself so it kinda cancels that out

  • @Nico_Ford23
    @Nico_Ford233 жыл бұрын

    Did you replace the oil control rings?

  • @DENetworkES
    @DENetworkES3 жыл бұрын

    I hope before you assembled the engine, you checked clearances and if all parts were in spec.

  • @joemurcia3527

    @joemurcia3527

    5 ай бұрын

    I thought that was mainly in piston motors you check clearances and junk lol

  • @DENetworkES

    @DENetworkES

    5 ай бұрын

    @joemurcia3527 When you reuse parts of the engine, you do, and side seals need a little bit of adjustment even if they are new. Everything is in the workshop manual.

  • @Bmw_Z3R
    @Bmw_Z3R3 жыл бұрын

    Aren't the rotors paired specifically with each other due to being balanced on the e shaft.. so really all 3 parts should stay together and should never mix and match from other engines unless machined and balanced properly.

  • @therandomrobert1842

    @therandomrobert1842

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not rx8’s they stopped balancing the rotors there all the same rx8 rotors just have the side cut on opposite sides so it’s a front or rear

  • @MrMeoow91
    @MrMeoow913 жыл бұрын

    That was a lot of oil...a bit overkilled. Did you get the exhaust ported? The factory’s eyelid is what kills the apex seal prematurely.

  • @ClwnJuNkY
    @ClwnJuNkY3 жыл бұрын

    Did you get the ecentric and rotor Balanced ?

  • @akilae3638
    @akilae3638 Жыл бұрын

    Where did u get the new housings? I'm about to have to rebuild my motor and i think i ueeted an apex seal as well 😭😭 I'm very nervous to open it up

  • @davidcardozo7475
    @davidcardozo74753 жыл бұрын

    Where did you bought all the pieces for the rx8?

  • @aaronhill8315
    @aaronhill83153 жыл бұрын

    I maybe getting ready to do this. I'm going to try a starter but mine is not starting

  • @dystopia3300
    @dystopia33002 жыл бұрын

    im having to rebuild mine and its my first rebuild so where did you go for parts? I'm wanting to make sure I'm not having to rebuild it 4 months from now.

  • @777MAV
    @777MAV3 жыл бұрын

    From the way you applied sealant at the bottom of the housings I can expact that it will leak some oil...

  • @chadanderson2086
    @chadanderson20863 жыл бұрын

    Where did you get the gasket kit from

  • @kabapkazserem_
    @kabapkazserem_2 жыл бұрын

    I have a questions you using new housing ?

  • @ferradar
    @ferradar2 жыл бұрын

    What is that black glue that you put on the seals of the motor?

  • @Frk119
    @Frk1192 жыл бұрын

    Whats your side seal clearance for this build??

  • @davidhusband5022
    @davidhusband50223 жыл бұрын

    did you forget to put the O ring in on the rear gear?

  • @SoldfMC

    @SoldfMC

    3 жыл бұрын

    looks like he did

  • @trevprmcnutt8975
    @trevprmcnutt89753 жыл бұрын

    What stand do you have for this?

  • @mugenkin1382
    @mugenkin13822 жыл бұрын

    Me gustaría que pudieras los torques de los pernos y las tolerancias de los cortes de los apex

  • @justinjachens4540
    @justinjachens45406 ай бұрын

    What is the blue stuff used on the seals?

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