I love my mako 3.

@jonahhanson7069

2 жыл бұрын

Same dude

@Peeze16

2 жыл бұрын

I find them too deep for people with small hands like me

@blakebierwagen3830

2 жыл бұрын

@@Peeze16 I can see that.

@JuanJimenez-od1ho

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. My mako is my set up disc

@ReeRuns

2 жыл бұрын

Sames, I recently got my first ace w/ a mako!

I'm using a Roc3 and Mako3 as my favorite mids for the moment.

My guess is Nate Sexton Firebird for disc you’d never thrown. Still like to hear about the process of getting onto the team!

Loving this series so far. I just started playing this year and have been packing Innova. It's great seeing a content creator provide details on brand specific discs.

The Lion has got to be the most underrated midrange with Innova. I absolutely love it.

I love the lion. I have two, one in champion and one in halo star. The halo is ideal for that slightly overstable flight and the champion flies nearly perfectly straight with a touch of finish. I don’t know where I’d be without the lion in my bag.

So pumped for you to be on team innova! Can’t wait to see what the future brings to you.

Congratulations! Much deserved 👏. Can't wait to see you rippin it up on tour

The Mako 3 is super underrated and versatile. So much glide when you figure out how to regulate your power for the shot you need. The champ Roc 3 is also my main go-to mid. Love em! Cheers Robbie, love the content.

Robby, I'm very happy for you! I've learned a lot from this channel and I'm excited to see where you go!

Robbie just wanted to pop on this video and say I really appreciate your content, especially being geared towards newer/amateur players. I just started playing a year and a half ago and have gotten so much better and gained a lot of confidence because of some of your videos. Keep it up man!

The Rat is such a versatile mid. Very underrated. First runs only, of course:)

@seangalbraith6837

2 жыл бұрын

Love the rat

@shiftonephoto

2 жыл бұрын

Is a mid the same way a zone or a harp is, it's technically a putter

I bag several of the Star Lions. It's definitely the first mid-range I'm comfortable throwing on nearly all angles. Rock on Robbie

Great job Robbie, thank you for this series!!!

With you on the Gator! Liked it right away, solid!

I love how similarly we approach building the bag. I have been trying to minimize molds so much and I'm still working on that process but it does build confidence in decision making and in actually throwing. I've narrowed down fairways to 2 molds from 4 and drivers from 5 molds to 2 as well. Feels good knowing exactly what disc to grab for each situation and never second guessing yourself on what you grabbed...just maybe on how it was thrown lol

Fantastic content as usual! I love my KC Pro Roc, Mako3 and Gator3, great choices! And completely agree, feels great to support Joel Freeman 😄

New sponsor, new haircut, same down to earth guy

I love this series, I’m currently trying to find discs for the start of my bag so this is very helpful

Very nice to see the shout to Jesse. Great info, super helpful. Thank you.

So interesting to hear your take on these. I gave away my gator3 because I hated the bead and replaced it with a caiman, which I love now. After playing with the lion I took out my kc pro rocs and roc3s for it. Absolutely love the mako3 for Hyzer flips or turnover shots and it’s my go to approach disc because with less power than a drive it just holds whatever line I put it on

Literally been looking forward to this video all week

Congrates on joining team Innova :)

Congrats Robbie on getting on getting on team innova

I use a Wombat3 for my understable shots and a Mako3 for my straight and over stable shots. both great discs for your average player

@friscobaldo

2 жыл бұрын

Wombat 3 is the best! And I use Mako3 (star plastic) for forehands a lot

Solid choices. Another good option for that understable slot would be a DX Roc, beats in faster than KC for hyzerflips that keep turning.

Roc3 is the most amazing disc ever!!! I am a discraft guy but I still have a champ Roc3 in the bag for the same slot you have yours!

Congrats on joining Innova, they're so fortunate to be associated with you!

Dude, I just love your channel. Ive learned more from you than any other channel. Youre one of THE best ambassadors of this sport.

@RobbieCDiscgolf

2 жыл бұрын

Thank You!! Humbled to hear that!!

Love the series man!

As a beginner, I am starting to add some overstable discs into my bag. The Roc3 was the first disc I was learning how to trust when needing that overstable shot. The Star Mako3 was the first disc I bought that moved away from the Innova's DX starter pack- Leopard, Shark, Aviar.

Another #Banger of a video. Nice work Robby, keep em coming🤘😎🤘

I like the series a lot. I am excited for you as you make these decisions. Personally, I bag the Mako 3 and a Vroc from the Innova midrange (love both). I am probably going to add the Cayman even though you didn't

All solid choices. The bulk of my bag consists of mid ranges. But not as many molds, just various stages of wear between the discs to accomplish desired flight characteristics. And almost every thing is in pairs. That said: champ Gator3 for short OS forehand, 1 KC Roc3 for reliable backhand with dependable fade (max weight), 1 lightweight champ Roc 3 for hyzer flipping, beat in KC Roc for flip to flat or anny, Rat for a more OS finish on backhand shots. I have a ton of Mako3 that aren’t in the bag right now. I also have a star Manta that you may find useful for right turning shots. The only reason I’m not bagging it is because it doesn’t have a twin. Good luck with your journey. It’s fun watching you and taking in the knowledge you share!

Yay I just subscribed and I’m glad your doing this anova is my favorite disc and I’ll prolly try to copy your bag 👊

When you do fairways, try the TL and TL3. Love those straight stable flyers

I found a beat Scott Withers Glo Gator in a creek in my hometown and that is one of the best approach discs I have in my bag bummed they're so hard to find now, I also have a Roc3 and Mako3 in my bag so I couldn't agree more with your choices here. Feels like I'm discin like a true pro after watching this video.

Great videos! Keep up the good work!

Love my Roc’s! I have various weights and plastics and I just can get enough! Roc3 for the win!

Right on man I love my roc 3 4 time paul world champ disc super straight after beating in over 2 years. Got a os buzz for my hook mid range.

I love this series man

I'm new to your channel. This innova bag build has my interest for sure! I like your video style

I say we petition Innova to start producing Star Stingrays! I would buy a few! And I love my Star shark!

I’m gonna go on a limb and guess a leopard 3 may be the disc you’re trying out next week. Loving the vids, Robbie, congrats on the Innova sponsor!

At some point I'm gonna need a Robbie C video on building your gaming shelf. You've got some great ones up there!

Shark3 champion, those you can get from stable to understable to really understable. Better edge than roc for us that dont fancy the bead that much. They also take headwinds no problem.

I'm a big fan of the Rat personally. Very comfortable backhand and forehand.

Innova needs to expand the stingray plastic lineup. Its my most trusty understable mid and I love it in the woods but I am too nervous about losing my only star stingray. I have some Mantas but it isn't the same and the bead is not what I want in a understable disc. Use your new Innova hook-up to push this. I believe in you!!! :)

@AndrewGeda

2 жыл бұрын

I think you should give the panther a try. I like star stingrays and mantas and panthers each quite a bit but I think I might prefer the panther. It’s the only one that always makes it back into my bag.

@FormerAmericanIdol

2 жыл бұрын

The star Stingray is an amazing disc when you can find em! Most beautiful flight I've ever seen! The looks I get when I throw it at 40% on a 45° hyzer, 300ft downhill tunnel... watching it flip up to flat and the glide takes over as slowly starts drifting right, it all seems like slow motion. It's not a workhorse, it's a finesse disc. I found a few f2's in the Innova proshop in case I lose my original... again (lost for almost a year in a swamp)

@StarScream0722

2 жыл бұрын

@@FormerAmericanIdol I love it since my forehand is suspect other than a 100ft or less pig in an open field. I just throw it with a slight hyzer and hope to get 225-240 but yes, it is a think of beauty in a wooded course that goes dogleg right a lot.

@StarScream0722

2 жыл бұрын

@@AndrewGeda I have a few in my collection and need to bring them out. I used to use them for anhyzer forehands from the rough but replaced them with base plastic Truths. I have been throwing Sols to replace my stingray but I can dust off the panthers for a week. Thanks.

@jredneck1317

2 жыл бұрын

Just good old DX Stingray is not even in regular production! We need premo plastic ones as well. With sooo many new players getting into the sport, I think Innova is missing the boat by not getting DX Stingrays and Cobras into their hands. How many lifer fans of these 2 discs are out there?

Robbie, I absolutely love my Cro! Ever give it a shot??? Cool video, keep 'em coming and congrats on Team Innova!

great insight! thanks Robbie

I found the gem that is a star rat (4203) and it’s my favorite “chipper” disc. I has an ace under its belt too so it’s not goin anywhere. My guess for what disc u swore not to throw is a Firebird lol

I have that subconscious confidence with the buzzz and the mako3. I want to like then. I really want to like them. But I seem to throw them all over the place. The champ roc3 on the other hand is my bread and butter mid. I love that thing. Super straight with slight left fade at the end

Awesome series

Looking at my lineup just made me feel wiser...lol. Maybe I watch your content too much, but here's what I built on mids. Currently holding 7 molds until I figure out what gets some shelf life, but am loving the joutney! Stable to unstable... SLOT 1-Gator (Champion)...in bag SLOT 2-Roc3 (Champion)..in bag SLOT 3-Warship (Tournament)...in bag (WARSHIP VIP not bagged YET) SLOT 4-BuzzZ Big-Z (BIG-Z BuzzZ and BuzzZ Esp, not bagged yet) SLOT 5-Panther (Champion), but has enough use to hold this slot until I break out the BuzzZ Esp Wombat3 (Champion)..in bag Mako3 (Champion)..in bag Mako3 (HaloStar not bagged yet) Warship (VIP not bagged YET) BuzzZ (Big-Z and Esp plastics not bagged yet) Great content. Funny enough I was about to grab a Halostar Lion just to see another "stable" low speed option. I'm currently debating between the Mako3 and my ViP Warship as my 3rd slot and I have a Big-Z BuzzZ in my 4th slot. I do throw the Mako3 and Wombat3, but cannot seem to let go of my 3 non-innova discs. Judge Warship BuzzZ...make my 🎒!

So cool! You're literally building my bag disc for disc! I can't wait to see your fairway driver choices. Please don't forget to include your roller option. I've been working so hard on finding the right mold/amount of wear. So far i've got a beat up Dx Wraith that gets the job done.

@berniesmith3457

2 жыл бұрын

I use DX Wraiths for rollers. I also use a DX Cobra for shorter roller shots

@angelc148

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah its a great combo of flippyness and stability. Flippy enough to get over on edge and stable enough to stand up and ride that on edge before burning over right. All my other discs either cut roll left or flip over right as soon as they hit the ground.

Understable slot can be filled with a DX Roc - very fun understable plastic/stable mold combination

Damn good job with the video. I'd love to play on Innova's team

I’m enjoying this series but for some reason my Innova molds are all fairways and distance drivers. So I’m looking forward to the next two episodes even more! I’m guessing Firebird, Thunderbird, Teebird3, TL3 and Valkyrie, or maybe a Sidewinder for rollers.

Would like to see an overview of the different plastics, why would you choose one plastic over another of a specific mold, what impact does that have. Thanks for the entertaining and informative content!

Innova bro! Nice Robbie! Mako3 and kc pro rock.

Get rid of the overstable mid slot. What your overstable approach disc can't cover, it's usually best to step up to an overstable fairway driver. The difference between something like a Zone and something like a Buzzz OS is so minimal that you are usually better off powering down an over stable fairway for more accuracy rather then 100% zip on a midrange. The once in a 1,000 throws that you need the specific OS mid shot, usually isn't worth the extra weight and bag space it takes up..Just a suggestion though.

@jymmiwynn2202

2 жыл бұрын

I'll second this especially with the Pig. A good set of Pigs paired with a good set of Firebirds can cover a ton of shots. Then every mid can be your preferred version of the Roc. It's a very simple and consistent setup. The general structure of Ricky's bag, which is what I'm recommending, is the best in the game at the moment. Second place goes to Eagle who seems to be only throwing 4 or so discs. That is also very consistent.

@jonathanlogan6953

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. I think two OS utility discs like a Firebird and Zone/Pig is enough. Thrown at different speeds, this covers a tremendous range of uses.

@filipcza

2 жыл бұрын

I'll third that. Playing since 2001 and wanted to have overstable mid to have the "whole collection" but found out just what these guys are saying which is that slot is almost always covered with overstable putter(I like Zone) or firebird and I found out I never needed my overstable star ROCX3. So now I have my new KC Pro Roc and couple of worn out ones for understability.

@jackdonkey22

2 жыл бұрын

Ive also been playing since 2001 but i took a break from 2002-2019. My gazelle is my turn over fairway driver.

When talking about innova mid ranges to bag. I'd highly recommend trying out the vroc. It's a supper neutral disc. It can handle a ton of back hand torque. Flies straight for days without turning over and will finish with smooth fade. Please give this disc a review Robbie C.

I love the Manta .

@cheliman1

2 жыл бұрын

The most predictable disc in my bag, and my favorite go to! Manta's are great!

Cookie cutter Innova Setup so far... KC Aviar, Pig, Nova, Roc3, Roc, Gator... Next stop Teebird/Eagle(which one oh no), Firebird, Thunderbird, Sidewinder or Roadrunner ???... Finally Destroyers, Wraith maybe. Series complete. haha. Fun video but these are always better when you all manufactures can be involved. oh well, congrats on being sponsored.

@RobbieCDiscgolf

2 жыл бұрын

Hoping you’ll be pleasantly surprised in the last two videos 🤫🤫

KC pro Rocs have a more rounded dome. Rancho-Rocs are really flat-topped. That is the main difference, and most of them fall into one category or another in that binary system. A variation is other flat Rocs are just not quite as flat as the Ranchos. I am finding more variation due to plastic type even with the same mold. Roc3 dx plastic is very controllable and beats in as you'd expect. The same disc in Gstar plastic was almost good fresh out of the box. 2 or 3 tree whacks and the Gstar Roc3 was perfect.

I know you mentioned the Wombat in passing but I wouldn't disregard it just because another great player uses a lot of them. In premium plastics it flies a slow but consistent drift to the right (RHBH) and is an absolute laser on the hyzer flip.

i feel like i've had to do this so many times lately. learn to love the disc. lose it. cant find another in stock anywhere. find a disc that's close. learn to love the disc. lose it. cant find another in stock anywhere. find a disc that's close, etc. Just lost a verdict to a swamp and here i am again :/ I have to choose between a first run buzz OS, a malta, and a clemmons domey verdict.

I’m thinking it’s the GROOVE 😆 you swore off.

Dang, i literally just switched to a full innova bag as well. Gotta say the one mid that’s been great is an old PFN panther. All though it’s not super readily available you could get a regular panther and it would do just fine. They are essentially innova’s buzzz and everyone needs a disc like that. Has a nice shallow rim and super easy to control, highly recommend!

@davidpfrey

2 жыл бұрын

I have a Panther and a Buzzz and although they fly similarly, they have a different shape and feel in your hand. The Panther is very shallow and rounded.

Roc Toolings: Rancho Roc (only Roc currently produced by innova, tooling on the back says rancho, these were made at the rancho facility, these are the Rocs everybody typically throws because they are the ones found today) San Marino Roc (more blunt edge, tooling says San Marino, typically a little straighter out of the box) Ontario Roc (more blunt edge, very similar to a San Marino, tooling will say Ontario) Some people like the feel of certain older runs of San Marinos and Ontarios, but they don’t run those toolings anymore, all Rocs currently are rancho Rocs

I’m a big fan of the Roc and have pretty much every version. I used to have a Classic Roc until it shattered and ended up getting a Colt. Second Print GStar $10 is money for under 100ft approach.

The Mako3 is one of my fave discs but can be very difficult to fly flat and straight for a beginner imo (I’m still a beginner trying to perfect my form currently). A beat in Mako3 would be so nice. But also I wish you’d look into the Manta mid range in Star Plastic. That’s been my go to Innova midrange because of how easy it is to hyzer-flip it and it doesn’t turnover at all for the most part

Awesome picks Robbie The mids in my bag are King Cobra 180 Roc3 180 Mako3 175 Caiman 180 Cro 170 Claymore 175 due to I'm Scottish

Should’ve tried the rat I find it to be perfect for that middle slot

The Wombat3 is my favorite disks in my bag, I wish they made more of them

Can’t go wrong with the no-mistako3. Try it in XT plastic for a straight to understable option off the shelf.

I loved my DX Roc3 since 1st throw. But, once it got beat in a bit 👌🏻👌🏻

Mako 3 is my joy in life

+1 for a Champion Mako3. When it's beat in, it's the best at big glidey anhyzers that don't cut roll, and don't fade out early.

The wombat3 and the mako3 are good disc, but sometimes I think people overlook disc like the coyote in innovas lineup. It starts just a little bit less stable than the mako3, and is one of my personal favorites

Rocs, flipply flat top rocs beat to H E double hockey sticks. I still haven’t found mine, threw it on hard hyzer 3 mos ago, it’s still turning to the right.

Joel Freeman gator3 is my go to mid for a whole bunch of shots. Understable I go to the wombat3 and I go mid disc 3 for the rest.

DX Stingray is my favorite stunt disc. it just tuns right and turns right and turns right, and if it's up high enough it will fall out and start rolling. feels like i could get it to do a full circle, if i had the arm.

Yeah, I'm betting that disc you said you'd never bag/throw is a Sexton Firebird. They are great. I love all 3 of mine.

If you love throwing Rocs, welcome to recycling them. I bet you will cover everything with them when beaten them in. Myself I love KC Pro Colour Glow Roc3 and I keep cycling them. Having stable/straight, straight/sligthly understable and understable in my bag.

Lol the mako3 was my go to mid for years thing goes straight as an arrow and itll hold any angle you throw it on.

Stingray is great but that mako will kill it once it's ready 👌👌

Star Rocc x3 is my jam

Shark is my favorite disc, but I only have one, DX, and only throw it a few times a round. Roc 3 champion is similar though.

For me Overstable =>GATOR 170 gr (Fade quit a bit) and ROC 3 174 gr ( Fade but later than the Gator) Straigh => VROC 181 gr (A little bit of fade at the end) and MAKO 178 gr (Very Straight) Understable => STINGRAY 176 gr All in Star plastic. Yes i love to throw mids :)

Roc3 and mako3 and great choices, little faster but the Ram is a ok overstable disc

Mako3 into a head wind makes that disc super understandable.

My crazy understable Manta cries from being excluded 😂

Maybe try the Lion in baseline plastic, very readily available, beats in quick and can turn into your straight to slightly understable midrange! Just a thought, I love my baseline lion more than my Star!

Robbie throw the mako 3 I’ve had a couple of them in different plastics and you can’t go wrong with star plastic ones. Roc’s are nice but I didn’t like some of the consistency of the molds. If you need something overstable try a rocx3.

I enjoy scanning your board game library, my main question for you is! Have you played Dominion? It is as fun to play as disc golf lol

You probably going to need to rotate discs for that straight mid range shot quite a bit if you're going with KC Pro Roc's. Too bad they don't make the Spider anymore, the XD as well.

@jenovaswitness4014

2 жыл бұрын

The Spider is so good, I have no idea why it was retired. The first Spider I had was labeled ‘All Purpose’, which was true as it made a great midrange and a pretty good putter as well.

You can definitely get some dx roc3s or in my case is a mcpro roc3 that will go right for days once it gets some chunks taken out of it. My mcpro roc3 probably weighs at least 5 grams lighter than the weight on the bottom from getting chunks taken out of it. It's awesome to have a new one to start beating up which my color glow roc3 stays in its really straight state for a long time after it got a little beat up out of its stable slot. I throw a mixed bag so I actually only have my beat up mcpro roc3 for my right shot. I literally only bag rocs to cover every spot. Color glow or even just champ roc3s can be real meat hooks. My 2x mcbeth roc3 is stupid over stable. Then I have kc pro or dx roc3s to beat into different stages. Gators I use for insane stupid wind, but usually I use a Malta for that right now. I also love that the gator is really easy to use as putter if there's a ton of wind which I've done alot of too, it's also the same size as a putter.

I agree with another comment down below that you don’t need the super OS midrange. You are almost always better off stepping up to your firebird instead. As far as the bag goes: Pigs, aviar3 Stingray, roc3 Teebird3, firebird (Sexton) Destroyer, Shryke I have bagged both the dx stingray and various mako3s… DX stingray takes the cake in my opinion. It holds its flight characteristics very well for base plastic and you know what it’s going to do. Makos are better for the dead straight shot but you have rocs for that. (PS - try the kc glow roc3s)

haven’t figured out the Mako3 yet but i like it. Roc3 is tight