This was so Inspiring. There are developers who are commenting that this is "bad advice" because it doesn't take into consideration all that could go wrong if you don't know how to use code, which is why you so desperately need an actual app developer. This is (and still is) the same argument that website designers had re the use of software programs that allow you to design and build your own site from scratch or using templates. Website building software is now simple and a huge industry. I absolutely applaud this young woman. I'm one of those people who designed my website, had a ton of fun doing it and learned a new skill. Now I'm quite interested in creating apps. Technology is becoming more accessible to non tech people, and Tara Reed is among the many who is informing and spreading the word. So Exciting!

@deretano_fondelli

4 жыл бұрын

Lol, have you seen the product she built "without coding"? Clearly not, because It's a complete shite and her business failed, so that's a clear demonstration that this "no code" thingy it's simply not working.

@noelr1010

3 жыл бұрын

Share link to your website. I can almost guarantee is some cookie cutter BS on Wix or Squarespace lmao

App building is still about coding. A software developer still had to write the code for those toolkits. And building an app still requires an understanding application logic, so a knowledge of coding really helps.

@ozymandias8523

6 жыл бұрын

bakerdude06 no one saya no, but these at the end pf the day are tools to create what you want.

@Akhibrass

6 жыл бұрын

Of course, just like someone built my car. And made my clothes. And prepared the food that I further prepared by heating up.

@EfeFred-Righteoussinner

6 жыл бұрын

But you write your codes in an IDE, which is a tool developed by some other developers

@cours458

5 жыл бұрын

nothing is stopping you from writing code in a text editor, it will work the same as with an IDE.

@deretano_fondelli

4 жыл бұрын

@@ozymandias8523 nope they don't. That's what people that has no clue on how to develop software would say. They create what is already out and common use cases. That's why your idea or business will never succeeded using those tools.

As a programmer this isn't what i should be watching

@sarahcastelar1939

7 жыл бұрын

francis miyoba same

@SaulDiaz-jk4fk

6 жыл бұрын

so is learning how to code not worth it????

@tkmalatji

6 жыл бұрын

It is, programmers will always be needed. The world is changing in that the average person will be able to use your program to build his/her own program. This creates more work for everyone, imagine a world that is interested in your app and customizes it to their taste, its a win win

@sagarwankhede1310

6 жыл бұрын

francis miyoba i dont know how to code but have some ideas will you help me??

@sagarwankhede1310

6 жыл бұрын

Sarah Castelar will you help me??i don't know how to code but have some ideas

As a software developer with a lot of UI driven development experience I watch this more as amusement. As systems become more complex, learning the code frameworks, writing the code and debugging is always easier and faster than doing the same with UI code builders. Especially as you can show code examples in a twitter comment where as for UI tool explanations must include many screenshots.

@Carol-uz8pr

Жыл бұрын

She never said u didn’t ever need code. This is clearly targeted towards non technical entrepreneurs, not as a replacement for software engineers and developers. And this is coming from someone who works in that field.

fortunately , we are the programmers who build these things for you . 😌💛

@sudaesh

3 жыл бұрын

No you didn't😂😂

Building apps using spreadsheets and surveys. Sound fast and optimized

Programmers : Am i joke to you.

@jaysonbourne8841

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂

I created my own app based in an idea I had 2 years ago, using "Kodular". Its the first app dedicated to my business area. 2 years ago I laughed about my own ambition. Today (01/01/21) I uploaded my app on google play and I am already thinking to publish in more languages.

If you're not embarrassed by the first version of your product/idea, you launched too late

@lawrenceaddison

3 жыл бұрын

So insightful

I have to say I had low expectations of this Ted talk but WOW. I was way wrong. I took away several key points from this talk and actually started doing mockups of my app now that I am free of having to have it perfect before I make it. Thank you for making this! It was VERY liberating to hear it's okay to cobble together something that works from things like IFTTT. THANK YOU AGAIN!!!

From my perspective, you can do what she says and build an app, I have no doubts about that. However, when you string together multiple platforms like that it becomes a lot harder to develop new features because now you have to spend time searching and manipulating tools and information from multiple platforms. Not to mention if something goes wrong it's a lot harder to troubleshoot the problem because you have to spend more time to figure out which platform is causing the problem. The comparison would be like how SpaceX produces their rockets vs how NASA does it. By developing most of their rockets' components in-house, they were able to save a lot of money and were able to achieve much better performance and troubleshoot much quicker. NASA on the other hand strung together contractors like Lockheed Martin, Boeing, etc to manufacture the parts. Even though it worked well at first, it ramped up the costs and took much longer to build the rockets. So I would still argue that if you can build your website or app platform from the ground up, it will take more effort up front but it will pay dividends in the long run.

@Carol-uz8pr

Жыл бұрын

She never said u didn’t ever need code. This is clearly targeted towards non technical entrepreneurs, not as a replacement for software engineers and developers. And this is coming from someone who works in that field.

@peanutbutterontoast

Жыл бұрын

She is fishing.when the big fish bite the bait she gets all there info from there phone.

@TheJlee28

10 ай бұрын

Except that they’re redundant and slow 😂

learning to code is better than learning how to control somebody else's widgets on a platform

@apik24

4 жыл бұрын

Please tell me how to start with coding. For app developing.

@jasonm2091

3 жыл бұрын

People don't want better, they want easier.

@schrodingerscat3912

3 жыл бұрын

@@jasonm2091 true. The short cut takes a life time to finish, the long path is easiest.

@schrodingerscat3912

3 жыл бұрын

​@@apik24 Sure. if you're doing Android, your best bet is to get into a consulting firm for starters. You'll want to study Kotlin first, Udemy has great courses. Packt has great books. You'll want to make a simple app and try getting into a consulting firm. It's helpful to practice leetcode for coding challenges.

Brilliant,,,, someone who thinks outside the box while others just function within the box

@aliuscogitabam

3 жыл бұрын

Is this a pun? It looks like a developer pun, but I'm bad with puns so I can't tell.

@maxwellflitton3973

Жыл бұрын

Also, she failed miserably

That was a great watch. I’ve tried learning code to develop a couple of app ideas, but it’s not my strength (I’m a test manager by trade), so I’ve been looking at alternative approaches to make my ideas a reality. It’s inspiring to see there are these types of alternative options.

@maxwellflitton3973

2 жыл бұрын

apps made by point and click tools pretty much always fail. Stop being lazy and put the effort in.

@mcbthird

2 жыл бұрын

@@maxwellflitton3973 why is that? im genuinely curious.

@kola8076

Жыл бұрын

@@mcbthird Don't listen to this person. if you can build a proof of concept, validate the value of the idea and establish product market fit all by yourself...well then you can always just pay someone to build it out with the bells and whistles you need The Important step is to just get it started 💪🏽

@maxwellflitton3973

Жыл бұрын

@@mcbthird It’s called technical debt. When you use a point and click tool there’s restrictions to what you can do. Later, you will want to do something that the platform cannot do for your business. You will then have to start from scratch. Countless no code businesses have contacted me because they want a new feature added that they can’t support. They always break down when they realise, they must start from scratch again. Technical debt is covered a lot, you can google this concept to read more. You will also struggle with scaling. Also, if 100% of your business needs can be met with a no code platform, then the barrier to entry is very low meaning that others can quickly move into the market. For instance, I knew a few people who ran medical events websites. They could never charge for their event hosting because every week it seemed like another couple of people would start-up a no code event hosting website. There was no shortage of people offering free services in the field to gain traction.

Love it! I have been learning code, but I like the alternative.

You are fabulous. Thank you for your encouragement. Thank you. God bless!

Thank you Tara ... I found about you on Tedx talks, You have inspired me to built my own app and software company. I am going to invest time and money on it! Keep up the good work... M from South Africa

Great presentation. Though, I'm still learning code for the knowledge of it. You just gained a twitter follower Ms. Reed!

Seems like you'll need to write code eventually if you want an app that isn't just cobbled together from other peoples services. What if one of the services you're using no longer exists? Then your app would no longer work.

Great thought about building a basic version first. I'm a perfectionist and it is hard for me. I need to adopt her basic first idea.

this is so painful to watch from a developer stand point

@WRCWPLX

7 жыл бұрын

Charles Kenney Why?

@ShondaD_

7 жыл бұрын

Hi Josh, question,,so is building your app fast and putting it out there to people inaccurate or is the wrong thing to do??

@charleskenney3574

7 жыл бұрын

@Shonda Taylor This just promotes bad development. As a programmer, you have a responsibility to understand ends and outs of your systems architecture. You need to understand the latest cryptography/security practices in order prevent and detect vulnerabilities before they lead to data exploitation and compromise sensitive information about your users. You need to be able to measure space and time complexities of your functions to ensure you aren't writing inefficient code that will lead to a bad user-experience or drain your users battery. And this is only the tip of the iceberg of what it takes to fulfill your role as a developer. This software, enables mediocre programming by people like this woman, who happily admit that they have no background in development. This often leads to huge problems (potentially dangerous ones, I might add). So while yes, I do think that more people should program and get there ideas out there, this is most definitely not the way to do it. The internet is full of great resources and tools, where anyone can learn the proper methodology and conventions that make up a good programmer; if you want to make something, stop being lazy and learn how to do it correctly. You do not deserve to call yourself a developer until you take the perspective and responsibilities of a proper developer. Your ignorance doesn't just effect your app, it effects everyone. Under the Data Protection act of 1984, it is your duty as a developer to maintain liability for your app and it's data. A breach of duty is illegal, but most of all, selfish. This is nothing to take lightly. People with visions aren't always the most scientifically inclined, and thats why there is a rather large difference between designers and developers. TL;DR: Either learn to program properly, or hire a developer to do it for you.

@thinker5270

7 жыл бұрын

@king Infoka13 cool bro.For developing apps on android java and xml are enough and for ios apps you need to learn objective - c.

@charleskenney3574

7 жыл бұрын

I can't give you an answer to that as it entirely depends on how quickly you learn and how much of a foundation you have so far. I would encourage you to at least attempt to cram a bit of learning in of the other languages (Swift, Objective-C, etc.) while you're doing java web development. Learning multiple languages give you the opportunity to experience different paradigms (such as Object Oriented, Object-Protocol Oriented, Functional/Procedural etc.) and really have a better understanding about programming in general. As far as your iOS goal goes, I would recommend you learn Swift. Swift is a beautiful open source language with many applications and useful frameworks. It has very easy syntax, which makes for a low barrier to entry, and the 'if let' / 'guard' statements make for safer code and less crashes at runtime. I literally just wrote my website's entire backend in the Swift framework Vapor, everything works perfectly. Most of Apple's source code is written in Objective-C right now, so it's good to have a good understanding of it too; however, a good bit of that code may change with their ground up redesign of iOS for 64bit architecture. For Android, I cant help you there at all. I don't develop for Android, and I personally hate Java. Java is a dying language in my opinion and I think Android needs a major redesign before I ever consider developing for them. It's very easy to have your premium apps that you've worked very hard on pirated and installed for free as well. Over all, experiment with different languages and make some cool stuff. There are plenty of resources out there, one could argue that you don't even need a college degree to write eloquent, functional code. You just need to be driven.

I love how disruptive this app is by reading the comments, I hope more apps like this show up soon.

@maxwellflitton3973

2 жыл бұрын

turns out her app failed and more didn't, on the other hand demand for software engineers has increased. The no code movement was a scam to con lazy people out of money.

Never give up.

Awesome presentation and actually timely for me although I am seeing it today for the first time. I have no coding experience and want to create an app. So thank you so much

I'm the guy @ 1:40 when watching this video. Lol

@ainerisakhellchannel

6 жыл бұрын

Hahahaa

@tanveerulislam8685

5 жыл бұрын

hahaha,

@raisedbyreels

5 жыл бұрын

That was hilarious!

@marshallchikari

5 жыл бұрын

hahahahahahaha

@seneca2403

4 жыл бұрын

😂

The title should be "how to build an app using someone else's code". This is not what you should do if you want to build a successful app.

@flclarkinc

5 жыл бұрын

I can't even get her site to load. I launched it when I started listening to it... by the end... it still hadn't loaded.

@deretano_fondelli

4 жыл бұрын

@@flclarkinc her site is not even responsive on mobile. It's complete shite

@apik24

4 жыл бұрын

Please tell me how to start with coding. For app developing.

@jaylaarmani3697

4 жыл бұрын

You don’t need to be a coding pro to build a successful app but the amount of freedom you get within your app when you code it yourself is the real prize of creating an app. I’m currently in the process of developing a mobile game app that I want to have done by December. Wish me luck

@alexmendoza9270

3 жыл бұрын

For the rest of us that are completely blind and deaf with coding, this sounds like the English or Spanish languages I understand and love ❤️

Thanks for the presentation and giving us some fresh ideas.

I started learning programming since yesterday. Now I watched this video :D :d But when I checked; it was uploaded in 2015, still not near by the truth. Engineers are writing codes.. Will go back to learning :P

@anselminos5238

5 жыл бұрын

what u learning rn?

I just started to learn how to code and I see it's going to take quite a bit of time to learn it. I want to eventually create my own app. It's refreshing to know I have an alternative. Great Stuff... would like to here MORE!

@Iron-Bridge

4 жыл бұрын

You're better off continuing along your current coding path than leaning on the video advice. No easy way to get through it.

@Mirror9191

Жыл бұрын

hey are u ready to create app?

"Because today something interesting is happening for the first time" - First time? People have been doing "visual/codeless programming" for at least 30 years. One of my first jobs over 20 years ago was to take a "forms sitting on top of spreadsheet" abomination and turn it into a real application. How "person discovers the modern day equivalent of Hypercard and/or Microsoft Access" is worthy of a TEDx talk is beyond me.

4 years later it’s been an amazing year of 2020 and what she said is almost true. The ability of building an app is a necessity.

@kcguitar9307

4 жыл бұрын

BUT BY CODING!

Thanks for this.

amazing speech !! very inspiring too!!

Thank you. Loved your presentation.

This is a wonderful piece. Bigly inspiring. Thank You.

Very inspiring! Because of her,I want to make a gaming app now. :)

@liondeluxe3834

5 жыл бұрын

Sorry but you cannot make a good game without coding

@greekygaming4535

5 жыл бұрын

Lion Deluxe and a good engine.....

@papagunit

5 жыл бұрын

Maybe some text based games using a survey 😂

Girl I hope you see this 😭 you motivated me so much I got so excited I started crying and I’m not a cryer hahaha but you made me realize that it’s possible for me to do this all in my own and I have this idea stuck in my head I can’t think about anything else and I should cause I’m a Med student I have other stuff to do for sure but forget my exams for now I’m gonna do it !!!! Thank you 💜💜💜 Sending so much love

@ksrikar6668

3 жыл бұрын

@The Loner Millionaire 👍

@annika3118

2 жыл бұрын

Calm down

As a programmer...this hurt my head. How is this a Ted Talk? Why would they allow this? Is what she made an app? Sort of but that Frankenstein monster barely functions. Also, if it was a program written using commands and logic then its a code! She just poorly reinvented an already existing wheel. UGH! Also, the program will not work and will need maintenance that she cannot do because she doesn't understand what she made. Love code people! Code is our friend! I am from Michigan too and we are awesome because we work hard, get educated, love knowledge, and write code with a passion. This was so offensive. Don't talk for programers or Detroit lady.

@campingoutlandersassociati2844

5 жыл бұрын

Im from michigan too🖐️ HOW DO I MAKE AN ANDROID APP?

THERE'S NO WAY TO GET AROUND THE FACT THAT USING SOMEONE ELSE CODE WILL MAKE YOU DEPENDENT ON THEM FOREVER!!! NOT THE BEST IDEA...

Love this!!!!!!!!!!!!!... very inspiring for the none programmer

DAMN, SO INSPIRING. LET'S START

So I need a resource that will show me the result ( the picture/ outcome) and then the code. Any recommendations?

HOW COME I DIDNT WATCH THIS EARLIER!!! EVERYBODY STAY TUNE TO THE MOST AMAZING ADVICER APP YET TO LAUNCH

I appreciate that she made a point of not allowing automation to get ahead of the process of getting into tech

Great presentation! This is for the non-tekkie -(techie? techy?) whatever - or who cannot afford a programmer, code writer. Lol!.... For folks like me. Thank you Tara!!

Brilliant, just brilliant!

Here I am 2020 , This din happen and I'm a Developer and an Engineer

Point 1: This is how you get started. If you don't have a plan to migrate/evolve off of the low code solution, you're going to sink when it comes time to scale, either because it cannot keep up with your scale or the cost of scaling will exceed the value of your application(s) and with LCNC platforms, optimization is often a non-option due to the generic nature of the platform. For this, you will still need developers. Mostly true for user apps. LCNC solutions still work pretty well short, mid, and long term for internal applications imo.

Hello Tara, I was doing the training, I lost the screen where the pencil is on the phone icon. I am not able to follow the training.

Ms. Reed, first I'd like to say that this video and information you present is so refreshing. I have a question. What sites/companies would you recommend in helping someone who want to build an app, but doesn't know how to code?

@Patdew1122

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks.

@BasePlay123

7 жыл бұрын

Patrick Dew e

@BasePlay123

7 жыл бұрын

Jon M i

@Patdew1122

7 жыл бұрын

Yes Cary Preator?

@Patdew1122

7 жыл бұрын

Sure Kevin...where do I start?

Those who don't learn to code and let your imagination expand and in fact succumb to "shortcuts" like this? They'll NEVER BE SUCCESSFUL. I mean you have apps for learning to code for free online and on the stores of your computers, what the fuck's the harm if you learn it? I have JUST started to learn to code through codecademy and I'm a law student and I LOVE IT. It feels like a dose of drugs and a kind of amazing high you get when you see that you- a person from a non- scientific background- has been able to write a sentence "Hello World!" The feeling of being a creator is amazing. NOW I KNOW WHAT GOD FEELS LIKE.

superb.

This was a great informative speech, thank you!

Thank you!

You can create “apps’” on wordpress for iPhone and android.

Thank you tara

I'm 17 and I have kept thinking of what I want to do after High School even though the year just started, I fall asleep thinking and day dream thinking. Problem is I feel a dead end and helpless from where to start. My parents think I need to get my head out the clouds. I believe if you really try your hardest at something and dedicate it can be achieved. I'm going to start my hardest on learning to complete my dream and accomplish my goal of success. If anyone has any tips a response would be greatly appreciated. I wish luck to anybody in a similar situation.

@mraaronawesomeful

7 жыл бұрын

+Verse hey , ill do it for free and lets see how it goes

@mraaronawesomeful

7 жыл бұрын

Verse email me Aaron Vu

@thechallengers2536

7 жыл бұрын

Aaron Vu I've got a few ideas wanna help me but I'm 12 so don't expect amazing ideas 😂

@jasonthomson2420

7 жыл бұрын

wow, I'm also 17 and I feel the same way.

@AA-gd8yw

7 жыл бұрын

Go for it!! You are in the right track.

Thank you

This was inspiring in one way, but in another, I wish she had given us a simple example on HOW to do what she claimed she did. Instead we were shown that older versions of common websites had less features. Who would have guessed?

I think coders have to look at it as the entertainment industry works. Producers, Directors, Writers and Actors. Tara is coming from the writer's perspective. The Idea to create things should not stop you because you can't code. Maybe the coders are the director's or the wonderful actors. They play their part in bring the script to life. But is the writer imagination that makes it worth completing. Just look at your favorite movie that is not all action driven. And to all the coders, this does not stop your imagination from creating something to help the world.

@noelr1010

3 жыл бұрын

I agree, if she had built a successful app. Yet the only thing she seems to be selling is some wackass course on how to build apps. Like what?? Seems like everyone these days is looking to sell you some wackass course in which they have 0 knowledge on.

@maxwellflitton3973

Жыл бұрын

She completely failed. None coders don't seem to realise is that a lot of coding is translating real world problems into code. I've worked in two startups that got a total of over £10 million investment each and wrote my own medical simulation software that now has 6-figures profit. I've never seen an app take off from a no code platform. Google technical debt. You're comparing software engineering to Hollywood. You need to compare software engineering to other engineering fields. A lot of software engineering is understanding dataflow and how it relates to the real world problem. Software engineers are constantly automating the boring boilerplate code like deployment of a server using Docker, or database management using an ORM. No code scammers act like the software engineering community doesn't advance but just stays still.

nice talk thank you for your insight

i know two peoples who can build app without codes. chuck norris and my boss

hello medam, I have many ideas in my mind and want to built them in reality . but like you I also don't know how to code. I searched many times how to make apps without code but I get confused. Please help me

@Ythishate

5 жыл бұрын

hire a developer

All these depends on who the client is and what part of the world you find your self in. Here I Africa companies can hardly spend $3000 for a properly built application in this case what do would you as a developer do?? Some developers turn to use no code tools for applications and websites because the financial resources to build systems from the ground up is simply not available, only way out is to come up with a working version of the app.

Above everything else, successful people find a way to start before they are ready 🔥🔥🔥

I don't know about making free website or App, but the last words make the most.

thank you so much....

As a UX Designer, knowing enough Front-end development to be dangerous. I can see the value in having an app builder that requires no code, however that editor and its code base still needs to be created and maintained by development team. Maybe when AI becomes sophisticated enough to code and update applications itself, maybe it'll be possible. Although, that's going to take a while.

Great talk my sista!

as an apple developer, how does this work? every day is just error after error and when the simulator runs, you get a weird feeling of achievement

Thanks You,

To the extent that your app does something unique, you'll need someone to code it. Just dive in and learn, its not that scary.

@lovejones2880

7 жыл бұрын

julian mann I tried to take a edx Harvard cs51 course it was so boring I can't get my brain to pay attention

@deretano_fondelli

4 жыл бұрын

@@lovejones2880 software engineering is not for everyone

@apik24

4 жыл бұрын

Please tell me how to start with coding. For app developing.

@niranjanamaheswari

4 жыл бұрын

True

Thank you Tara. Fantastic!!!

I loved this video!

No-code ? We have to write code if we want to make businesses like Facebook, Google, etc

How do you protect your app idea?

As a programmer this is sad for me.

@commentquerty3092

3 жыл бұрын

why is that?

Would u be able to launch it to ?

She did not refuse the need of skill that how to wright code, but just mentioned to the lean startup business model on building apps.

Watching this in 2020 and wondering how accurate this is. Hmm...

I’m In Detroit!

is there any app which will help me to build an android app without coding .If u know please reply me

AKA how to make an inefficient program and how to be limited by what you find on the internet

@anselminos5238

5 жыл бұрын

i agree :)

How could you build successful app while googlesheets not allowing to add what do u want to add to your app?

@deretano_fondelli

4 жыл бұрын

She didn't. Her app failed.

And what about design? I am a designer. I know little bit coding, but not that I would use texteditor, but still working in Dreamweaver (sometimes old Adobe Muse) and Animate etc. But without planning the App or website, without having proper structure and then having proper branding in these days the App or website can end looking just like kindergarten project and when not working properly will do more damage as good. I don't know why everyone is afraid using code. I started full visually and now here and there I am going to code and changing it. Learning it - it is not biting. Promising building app without coding is like these software which makes you generate logo and branding without having designer's knowledge. Just not working. Be professional.

I agree about certain things pointed out here. For instance, there is no need to know coding to create an app. But it's like building a home with different materials and not knowing there true usabilities and strength. Of course you will have a result from a non-coding development environment, but will never be able to explain in depth what your app technically does. Learn to code, it's easy.

In grad school I flunked Java. What do you think about that?

YOU are the best thank you

Very interesting topic ...

We always looking for the fundamental :)

Wow wonderful idea

thanks for sharing..worth it

How can we?? Is there any application or an website from which we can create an android/ios apps without coding

@TheFly1623

4 жыл бұрын

Adalo dot com. Is what her site is now, it’s not free to launch.. if you want to learn code check out Codecademy and general assembly

@TheFly1623

4 жыл бұрын

AppSheet is an app turns spreadsheet into app; MightyNetworks ; Thinkific; Cloudmatch; I’m watching a webinar from her which is how I’m getting this info. iOS uses Swift, the Apple Books app does have instructions teaching how to write the code

i still didn't understand. i have a startup idea about automobile. but i don't have knowledge of code. how do i start it because my idea is completely online based?

@manjeet7595

7 жыл бұрын

nopolitics yeah i am doing it now

Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU!!!!!! :)

what about SCALABILITY, CAN u scale your app this way, i dont think so

@softrek

4 жыл бұрын

she said, that you can everything, without coding, are you ready for this?

@deretano_fondelli

4 жыл бұрын

No it can't scale. But the biggest problem is the vendor lock in. You can't export the code generated. Means that you will have to re-write everything from a scratch.

Excellent talk.

hehehehehehe..."please don't sue us...!!!"

ON another note, it's nice to see great role models in the tech industry like this lady on the video! Go Detroit !

For people so dependent rapidly advancing technology its so funny how scared we get when a new technology "threatens" the old ways. Put it like this people are still salty about people that can''t play musical instruments making music with computers but so much music we hear is made by these people. And guess what? Musicians still have jobs. People still want to learn instruments. Some instrumentalists ALSO learnt to use computers for music. Technology shouldn't be threatening.