Managed to get my HDZero 65mm build down to 19.59 grams thanks to your canopy, appreciate everything you have done for world of light whoops.

@MrShutterBug

Жыл бұрын

Awesome! That’s lighter than many analog whoops on the market. Have fun!

@harshlalwani4311

4 ай бұрын

Just curious, how did you get it even lighter than his?

A great way to remove motor connectors is to plug a motor plug into it, then heat the back and pull the wires.

Really neat! Hard to even imagine a 23g digital whoop. That’s about what the OG whoops used to weigh back when I first started flying.

Cool build, by the way, you can save some extra weight by: 1. Ripping stickers of the battery, it gives another 0,3-0,5 grams, depending on a manufacturer. Which is quiet the same with replacing motor screws to renu 2. Replace canopy with my custom PET-canopy, made out of used PET bottle. It weights about 0,3 grams and gives mutch better protection than flex printed canopy. And also costs 0$. Let me know if you are interested, I can share the drawing, so you can build your own PET-conopy. (You may need to adjust it a bit to fit your camera, my is designed for runcam nano3 )

@duckedup7142

2 жыл бұрын

Id love to see ur canopy

@vladislavmenshikov6381

2 жыл бұрын

@@duckedup7142 , give me your email address to share the dwg file

@ningcraft6694

Жыл бұрын

can i have the file? on thingiverse or something?

Man Nate, so much custom light weight whoop building wisdom squeezed into one video in a nice concise way! I’ve really been looking forward to this and it delivered! 🔥🔥🔥

Looks like some really impressive performance! Very nice!

Damn Nate! Thats some crazy moves! Brilliant build man!!!

Nice diving flight ! Awesome FPV 👍

thank you man! really enjoyable to see your video! very excellent work!

finally, a "DJIized" smallest woop! Couldnt expect anything less from Mr.Shutter!

Thanks! Looking forward to get my hands on the whoop lite kit.

Nicely done on covering things and sharing some tips I did not know. Thank you!

amazing! i'm now interested in hd, with this lightweight option. nice work!

Awesome flight and build thanks for sharing 👍 😀

It’s great to see Mr. S’s little tricks!

man, i've missed this hobby. just coming back and went with hdzero. thanks for this vid. it was really helpful.

This is really where hdzero and elrs shine. Nice flight

Supercool ! Outdoor inside 1s whoop 😎

Crazy how fast the tech is moving forward! I'd be interested to see what your tune is on this whoop. Great video, thanks!

Love it!!!

Very clear image ! I want to built one like this so bad !

You had way too much fun, lol.. Sweet dive! Great information and definitely hit the like button three times...👍🏻🍻👊🏻

You do a good job of explaining the excitement of building a drone from scratch as well.. the hobbiest in me was hyped with all the diversions from the "safer route" 😅😂 I'm subbed bro! 💪

Great build!!!

Really fantastic. As I am not a racer but I would love to try and apply all this to a mobula7 sized quad for longer flight times. My winter project and I hope HDZERO is out in full force. Thanks for sharing as always.

This is going to be my first 1S whoop, first HD Zero quad, AND my first quad with ELRS. This little quad looks AMAZING!! AND I get to build it myself, from components! Mr ShutterBug you are my whoop hero 😘😎 PS - In the past, I removed the connectors from an IFlight ESC and soldered the motor wires instead - BUT - I just cut the connectors off with wire cutters LMFAO your method with solder is so much neater - thanks for the tip 😀

Hey Nate! I’ve watched this video so many times and it’s taught me so much about saving weight of my builds! I would love to see you do one box nail one whiteboard that came out today. I’m planning on doing one myself, but I’m curious to see how late you can make it, big challenge for you! I’m excited to see if you’ll do it.

Holy moly, that's lighter than a Vista with Cam. If DJI does not come up with a lighter solution I have to get into HDZero sooner or later.

amazing, a digital video tx in such a micro quad was like a impossible dream few years ago

SOOOO cool 😃

I'💖💖💖💖💖💖m not worthy!! WOW, Beautiful build....

Great build video! Looking forward to building myself one of these once the HD Zero goggles are out! Little PSA for anyone watching this - For soldering stuff like this get yourself a PCB holder tool with alligator clips and put something non conductive on the jaws (I used some silicone RC fuel tubing) This way you can hold stuff with it powered on and protects the PCB from damage by jaws. Also when desoldering small connectors / pins etc don't apply force while heating the solder up, wait until they become loose then pull it out as otherwise you risk detaching the copper pads/traces from the connector side of the board (while the solder may have melted on the iron side it may still be solid on the connector side).

Just finished my own Mob7 HD build with a custom carbon frame. Weighs in at 26.1 g. Got the ORT micro vee on the way and some reny motor screws. Hopefully dip into the 25's. Thanks for the inspiration.

nice one!

this is amazing

I've been waiting for this video lol. This is really awesome. Who would have even thought this was possible a few years ago?? I'd love to see what you would do with a shutterbug 85 update with this VTX/cam. Mine has been a shelf queen since I got DJI so this seems like a great option to bring it back to life.

@MrShutterBug

2 жыл бұрын

I already build a ShutterBug85 with HDZero, but these new parts could certainly make it lighter. I’m considering it. 😉

The flight was thrashy, loved it. Hdzero looks good here.

@felurianmasters4369

Жыл бұрын

Ever consider a compilation of your flight as a video showcase, just tagging equipment lists per flight? Id watch that.

I've been following your videos lately. I'm new to the hobby so I don't know a lot. I absolutely love the way you break it down, no BS, straight up. Is the video quality you posted what your seeing in your goggles? If it is... HdZero is what I need!

@MrShutterBug

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, the video was recorded from my goggles. It actually looks better when flying than on youtube, because the KZread video has been compressed twice (by the goggle DVR and then recompressed by KZread). Cheers!

What a great build, thank you for sharing in such detail! I’m also kind of blown away by those dives from the tree tops: pretty much straight down, and no yaw washout! Early reviews of the Mobula 6 HDZero have looked slightly underpowered, but your build seems to perform really well. My favorite flier these days is a 75mm 2s with DJI, but dives require very fine care to avoid coming down into dirty air or leveling out too late. Once again, great build!

@MrShutterBug

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! The main difference between my build and the Mob6 HDZero is that mine is about a gram lighter, has higher KV motors, and BT2.0 connector (with good batteries from Tattu).

Flippen AWESOME 🎉🎉🎉

@Charlvdwalt073

10 ай бұрын

I Live in South Africa in small coastal town,but that's no problem ,every time you ask someone one they no you must buy everything 2nd hand or banggood,JUST VERY FRASTRATING LIVING IN SOUTH AFRICA

awesome video

YESS! Thank ypu for this! I've sent Brain3D the .STL file so they can print me up a couple!

Hi Bro, great a very nice job and a very nice micro quad 👍😉

Thanks Nate for that nice video! I have ordered all parts to build my own HD Zero whoop. So it would be nice to see, how to setup and tune this little guy. Your whoop Flys crazy good. Maybe you can give us a DUMP of DIFF?

Good job

Really nice and clean built makes me consider HdzeRo whoop lol

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 e basta super ciao.

So great, thanks for all these details. I could really benefit from what tuning settings you used. For one thing, I need to switch from 96khz to 48khz pwm so I have more control. Curious what else you recommend

I love the antenna mod. I would try a monopole mod, it might give better range and would not weigh any more than a simple wire.

I am interested in getting one of those whoop

For much hate BetaFPV gets, I've found this older style, 1S ELRS board has been very good. One of the best 1S out there. Only issue is the antenna, falls easily.

Nice

nice build Nate... thanks for sharing, really help. by the way, did you happen to upload the continuation or completion of this video, the Betaflight setup? :)

I am new to the hobby. The first kit was the Geprc Tinygo 4k. After learning how to only calibrate the gyro and trim with the sticks, my flight has improved. Then came the Zorro with the Mobula6, what a learning experience on settings with both the controller and BetaFlight. Also the Meteor65 lite...video could be better, but it has earned a special place in my heart for durability. NOW the moblite7!!!! Awesome flight times and handles the best.... Your video has everything! I got excited to see soldering skills on such a small board. Kinda reminds me of the Moblite7. Anywho, you are doing next level stuff.

@MrShutterBug

Жыл бұрын

Nice! Sounds like you’re having fun. The Moblite7 was inspired by another build that I made. Mine was 16.8 grams + battery. Definitely a fun flyer! 😁

@ericcoker8784

Жыл бұрын

@@MrShutterBug I found your build on the Tripple OG Shutterbug lite7!!!!! You are da man. Create, build, soldering and programming. Just curious, what would you charge to make the exact same thing? I probably could do it. But the soldering requires a steady hand and a good soldering iron. What soldering iron do you use?

Dope! Tried building my first HDZ 75mm; everything turned on. Once I came to install it into the frame the motor wires were to short 😥

miss you shutterbug!

@MrShutterBug

Жыл бұрын

Hi. I’m still around. I’ve just been busy with other things recently so not much racing or video making lately.

@TorontoFPV

Жыл бұрын

@@MrShutterBug glad your well Always love your content! Made me give whoops another chance!

amazin

To remove connectors, I often clamp my forceps on the connector and then hold the board up in the air and let gravity gently pull the connector and forceps off the board when I wet the solder.

@MrShutterBug

2 жыл бұрын

Good suggestion. I do the same thing on the edge of my bench normally, but it would have been hard to film that way.

@vladislavmenshikov6381

2 жыл бұрын

You can also remove the connector first by squishing the tweezers between te connector and the board, and then remove the pins one by one

The issue of connecting the esc configurator, at least with me, is caused by have the elrs radio connected. Just power down the radio solved the issue.

@jonowillmer

Жыл бұрын

Yeah this is absolutely the case, with the radio off you'll have better consistency when connecting to the configurator.

@MrShutterbug I like to clip my Hemostats to the stubborn pin and let it dangle down. A hot tip to the opposite side and plop! 😉 I assume you do the same thing when you aren't filming?

At first I was waiting him to crash but I realise that he is a pro pilot l o l😂😂

There is nothing holding the plastic motor plug down on the board. You can pull the plug off leaving just the 3 individual pins on the board making them much easier and safer to remove.

spicy analog crew

This has been my dream since getting into fpv. Have you tried the walksnail 1S board as well? I assume it's too heavy to have good performance on a tiny whoop but curious to hear your thoughts since it looks like it has better range and image quality.

for me, the soldering is the easy part for any whoop. I severly struggle when it comes to programming

Hi thanks for the tips! I built one like yours with same parts, can you share the pids? thanks!

which 75mm Frame and props would you use. Im interested trying the same build on the slightly bigger platform. Always excellent content, so many thanks!

@MrShutterBug

2 жыл бұрын

I haven’t build a 75mm with HDZero so I’m not sure which frames have enough room to mount the FC on the bottom like I did in this video. The Mobula7 frame has tall pegs for the FC, so you could probably stack the vtx on top of the FC. Take a look at how they did it for the Mobula7 HDZero 2S BNF. For best efficiency I would go with 40mm 2-blade props and keep everything as light as you can. Good luck!

Impressive build Nate! Really want hdzero but I only have dominator v3 and not sure if it will look better on my eyes with it ... lol This betafpv f4 aio is great and I'm using on my custom build M7 and buzz+ pad actually provide 5v with propper current to power on runcam thumb. Last thing ... it's a bit unfortunate that OSD chip is still stay with the same chip tech and size for a long time, looks odd in happymodel diamond F4 aio 5in1 tho 😅

@MrShutterBug

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the OSD chip takes up a lot of space compared to everything else on the FC and it isn’t needed at all on these digital whoops.

When you break the antena you break my heart too

man I wish I knew what I was doing here lol.. I bought a whoop as a kit from a local drone shop. has brushed motors and the transmitter was terrible. I had an old JP PROPO X2610 and pulled out the 36MHz transmitter board and installed a 2.4 Ghz FrSky board but the whoop is a pain in the ass to control and i get terrible flght times. Just feels so underpowered and often under full throttle it wobble so much it just falls to the ground.

I enjoy all your builds I have HDZero already, so I'll try this build out. Where did you get the ELRS antenna replacement? Also what did you use the strap on the VTX antenna there, just black tape?

@MrShutterBug

Жыл бұрын

For this build, I replaced the ELRS antenna because it would have bumped into the vtx. I used a 2.4GHz antenna that I removed from a dead whoop FC, but any tiny wire will work as long as it is cut the the right length. For the VTX antenna, I used a bit of black cloth tape to keep it secure.

Did you ever try out the 0702 motors on this HD build?

A ½g cf brace will help

Dude 23g, now we are talking about tinywhoop 😍 Hey, are you planning shuterbug85 of 1s? I aleeady started mine, every cool kids on KZread Will try it

@MrShutterBug

2 жыл бұрын

Good question, but I think 2S is better for the 85mm size because 2S can deliver power with less voltage sag.

Love your channel! Can you give your thought on the 31mm HQ 3blade prop in comparison with 31mm gemfan 3blades? I thought the gemfans are lighter and produce more thrust but interested on your view/feel on them.

@MrShutterBug

Жыл бұрын

Sorry for the super late response. I missed this comment before. I've used both props and they both work fine. One thing I appreciate about the HQ props is that they seem to be more durable, or at least you can tell when they are bent. With they Gemfan prop, it can be hard to see when you have a bent prop because they always have a kind-of bent shape. That's a minor thing though. Both props work great.

Crazy how many of the same tricks we all use.

Another great video Nate. When using the Meteor 65 Pro Frame, could you use the 35mm propellers that come stock on that?

@MrShutterBug

Жыл бұрын

Hi. I haven't tried HDZero on the Meteor65 Pro frame. The larger props could give it better performance, but they would not be allowed at the 65mm Whoop races that I go to. Also the Pro frame has less room in the middle, so the HDZero VTX would not fit there. You would have to stack the VTX above the flight controller like they did in the Mobula 6 HDZero. It's probably possible with the right mounting hardware. Have you tried it?

@jeremyluke2076

Жыл бұрын

@@MrShutterBug I haven't tried it. I was just thinking about it

Hi, great build. Could you share your betaflight 4.4 tune? thanks,

@MrShutterBug

Жыл бұрын

I used Betaflight 4.3 for this build, and I did not do any special tuning other than my usual tweaks, which include increasing Feed Forward for acro or increasing Angle Strength for angle mode. For angle I also add around 13 degrees of "FPV Angle Mix", which seems to help the angle mode algorithm dig into the corners a little better.

Cool! I just converted my Moblite 75. Question, is there away to disable the analog VTX?

@MrShutterBug

Жыл бұрын

If the FC is set up for analog, then you should be able to use Smart Audio to set the vtx power level to zero or enable pit mode.

I heard from last minutes video that sometimes the esc communication goes wrong. Sometimes it didn't appear on the blheli.. How is the solution? Thanks

I guess there will be a few on sale soon ready built with the new vtx lite board ?

@MrShutterBug

2 жыл бұрын

The Mobula6 HDZero bind-n-fly is has this same lite vtx. Link in the video description.

Why You did not get power from 5v pad, but from power lead?

what is the different between 802, 702, 1103 motors ? how does it make a difference ?

i'm gonna build the same thing but do it walksnail!

@zoide-777

11 ай бұрын

How did it go?

Can you desolder OSD chip from AIO ? That would save some unnecessary weight :D And great build BTW :)

@MrShutterBug

2 жыл бұрын

I haven’t done it, but that would help. The OSD chip is one of the largest ICs on the board. Removing the USB plug would help too… but with obvious drawbacks.

I built a 75mm with the same fc and Hdzero and 1002 motors but I can’t get osd followed a couple videos but still no go

Hi Nate, question: Some time ago, I plugged that board into BF Configurator 10.7.2 and did a DUMP and RESOURCE. After watching your PSA, I put it into DFU and flashed BF4.3 official release. After rebooting, I went into CLI and found out that the gyro is the ICM20689. When I checked the attitude, it was able to pitch, roll, and yaw. Does this mean the gyro is functioning properly? I want to make sure before putting it in a build. Thanks Nate.

@MrShutterBug

2 жыл бұрын

It sounds to me like your FC is probably OK. :-)

Any thoughts on trying the new meteor 65 pro frame with 35mm props? That’s my build intention once I get HD-Zero

@MrShutterBug

2 жыл бұрын

The Meteor65 Pro frame has less room in the middle. I don’t think the VTX would fit there.

@aphinity

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrShutterBug yes, agreed. It might have to sit above or something. Would still be interesting

@MrShutterBug

2 жыл бұрын

@@aphinity The larger prop size should definitely improve flight performance. Or you could build a 75mm whoop with 2-blade 40mm props. That's another good option. Happy building! :-)

How do you connected hdzero vtx? To vbat or to FC 5V? If to vbat, did you have any issues with video drops at low voltage?

@MrShutterBug

Жыл бұрын

I power the vtx from vbat. The 5v line on the FC would work too, but those 5v regulators are a common source of failure in FCs, so I didn’t want to put any more load on the FC than necessary. Yes, it is possible to loose video with low voltage, but only when the voltage is really low. I think it drops at around 2.8 or 2.9 volts, but you should land before that to save your lipo batteries.

Howdy! Wondering where I can buy the wire to make the antenna for the SPI receiver? Is it just enameled copper wire? What gauge? The wire antenna on my FC broke and I need to replace it, thanks!

@MrShutterBug

Жыл бұрын

I don’t know how to perfectly tune the antenna, but just about any wire will work if it is just the right length. Yes, I think enabled copper wire would be fine.

Hello. You make inspiring videos. can you make a video how to set up in betaflight. with how to rotate the flight controller. and uart. Mvh. Erik. thangs

@MrShutterBug

Жыл бұрын

I explained how to rotate the FC and fix the motor mapping in this video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/c6Otm4-YmsSdgNo.html. I use EmuFlight for that one, but the Betaflight settings are the same. With Betaflight 4.3 they made it easier, which is great! There is now tool on the motors tab that can remap the motors much more easily. I have not made any videos about the new feature, but I'm sure you can find a video if you search for one. Good luck!

@lucky1968

Жыл бұрын

@@MrShutterBug thangs

You have replaced all motor screws with Reny screws. For me some of them were never fitting really tight and tended to fall off after a few flights. Did you ever have such issues with those screws, or did every single one of them fit perfectly so far?

@MrShutterBug

2 жыл бұрын

Mine fit well. For me, the only real concern is over tightening them which can break the heads.

Hello again! Sorry to bug you more but wondering if you can shed some experience on me. I had a 65mm build with TW 702 23,000kv motors but the FC died. I decided to take apart my moblite7 and put the FC and HDZERO into this 65mm build, so same frame and motors, but now my voltage sag is sooo bad the HDZERO loses video due to low voltage when I'm doing ladder spirals on a freshly charged battery. I'm using BT2.0 connectors. The original 65mm build came in around 23g (flew great for me) but now with the HDZERO components it's about 25.5g -- is that extra weight bogging down these motors so much that I'm experiencing this batt sag or is something else going on perhaps? The only other change is I was using HQ tri-blades but I ran out and I'm using the gemfan tri-blades on this new 65mm HDZERO set up. I need help b/c I can't even fly for 1min now! The only thing I could think of to fix it was re-soldering a new BT2.0 connector on the batt leads but no luck. Appreciate any feedback!

@MrShutterBug

Жыл бұрын

Sorry for the late reply. I remember seeing this comment, and I though for sure I had already responded. Maybe it never actually sent. Anyway, I'm sorry you're having trouble. The voltage should definitely not sag that much. It's hard to guess what could be wrong without seeing it. Some common causes include batteries that are damaged or poor quality (the blue BetaFPV batteries are not great). I use the Tattu 300mah 1S batteries with BT2.0. They are not too expensive, and the quality is excellent. If you know you're batteries are OK, then it could be a physical obstruction. Double check that all motors spin smoothly and with the same amount of resistance. If any motor catches, or grings, or is harder to turn, or if the prop scrapes the duct... any of those things could cause the motor to work extra hard and drain power. Good luck!

Have you done any micro DJI builds?

@MrShutterBug

Жыл бұрын

My smallest DJI builds are a whoop with 2 inch props and a “Babytooth” with 3 inch props.

Nate - in this build you are using countersunk RENY screws but they do make pan-head screws available (in "Type 1" and "Type 3") - was this a conscious decision to use countersunks or should i go with pan-heads if I can get them?

@MrShutterBug

Жыл бұрын

Pan head works just as well.

@mopatop3921

Жыл бұрын

@@MrShutterBug thanks!

Nate, could you add your custom camera mount to your Thingiverse please?

@MrShutterBug

2 жыл бұрын

www.thingiverse.com/thing:5431202

From your testing do you prefer gemfans or hq?

@MrShutterBug

Жыл бұрын

Either works fine. I have a mild preference for the HQ 3-blades.

HDzero- Is there a way to add a HDzero module to my DJI FPV 2 goggles or to my FatShark Scout goggles via the analog input?

@MrShutterBug

Жыл бұрын

HDZero does not output an analog signal, but it does output HDMI. It cannot be used with the DJI goggles because they do not support HDMI input. I don't know if your FatShark goggles have HDMI input or not.

Do you find any benefit of the two blade prop instead of the three blade?

@MrShutterBug

17 күн бұрын

@@coltengibbs5404 I think 2 blade gives better battery life, but I prefer 3 blade for racing because I think it gives better control in the tight corners. Just my preference.

Still trying to get canopy for emax nanohawk and props. In (UK)... any ideas 💡 from anyone would be grate .