Building a VIC-20 Kit Computer and X16 Update.
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Thanks for the great content man. You hit me in the feels with all this old hardware I used as a kid.
Dude, this video is great! It really makes one want to get into the hobby. You have so much passion and knowledge, and your way of communicating is fantastic!
@TheSulross
2 жыл бұрын
if everyone that watched this tried to acquire and build this kit, imagine the squeeze it would put on the ebay supply of VIC chips
Yt playing in the background so you don't go insane doing the same thing for hours on end. Best tip ever imo.
Awesome new studio, thanks for all the great content over the years!
Wow the x16 looks amazing! Can't wait for it :D
That printed keyboard case is HIDEOUS! great build tho!
@georg6876
2 жыл бұрын
Yea. Looks like it could use a bit of sanding.
@unlokia
2 жыл бұрын
@@georg6876 it could do with being crushed
Few things give me that simple joy of nostalgia and interest as listening to your podcast or watching these videos. Nice job as usual.. Very well done.
Amazing. I always feel so small and insignificant when watching your videos, yet filled with a great feeling of nostalgia and amazement 😃
I still have my VIC 20, given to me Christmas 1981 when I was 11! I learnt to programme using it and have worked in IT for 32 years 😀 unfortunately it no longer boots up but I do have another which was booting last time I checked it. I also have a Sinclair ZX81 and Amstrad CPC 464.
@hnmcclain
Жыл бұрын
I too have my VIC-20. You're just a smidge older than me. Got mine the same year but I was 7. To your point, went on to get an EE and CS degree and have been working in the industry since I was 17. I've also got a Sinclair 1000, a TRS-80 Model IV, and a Mac Plus (with 1 Meg of RAM and a 2400 baud modem... I was the man in high school!!!LOL) and countless machine I built between college and now. Such great times. What's amazing is that my ex wife is just six years younger than me and her coding style (also a CS major) was utterly different from mine. She never had to learn to program in a world of limited memory and everything was OO based by the tie she go to college. We solved the same problem one time many year ago and and he code had to have been five times the size of mine. But I give my VIC-20 (and learning Assembly and cutting my teeth on K&R) all the credit!!!LOL
15:55 Hey, I know that guy filming there :-) Cool to see the build here, and great update on the X16!
I enjoy nerding out when I watch your vids, thank you so much for the great content !
Your new studio is so cool. Really good idea with the little office and additional workspace!
Wow you're super talented with that iron i could never keep my hands so steady. Nice to see people still appreciate the old Vic 20, or should i say Vic 2020.
@TheSulross
2 жыл бұрын
Vic 20 21st Century edition
@ColtGColtG
2 жыл бұрын
keep reading the comments, soon the solder police will show up saying how horrible he is, how he is doing this wrong and that wrong and OMFG he is so lucky he didn't break this part becasue this reason. the pedants never fail to appear when he breaks out his iron.
@unlokia
2 жыл бұрын
Or just talented, and tone down the hyperbolic “super super” 🤣
@scythal
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheSulross The Vic-21? :P
Can't wait for the commander x16
The new Workspace is absolutely stunning. Great video as always.
The construction/ soldering montage is amazing
_Building a VIC-20_ : Yeah, seems interesting _and X16 Update_ : Now this got way more interesting real quick
Since the s-video signals work properly why not cut the incorrect traces and bodge wire it?
@BastetFurry
2 жыл бұрын
This. Seems like a simple enough fix that nobody will see in the end.
@horusfalcon
2 жыл бұрын
@@BastetFurry It's a shame to have to bodge something like this, though. Let's hope they fix in in the next board revision.
@BastetFurry
2 жыл бұрын
@@horusfalcon from what I get this is a single run with no intend for a next one. I think you can get the CAD and Gerber files somewhere and do it yourself tough.
@azzajohnson2123
2 жыл бұрын
@@horusfalcon Yeah paying money because someone fucked up a board revision instead of just fixing it and sending out the new lot...
@daemonspudguy
2 жыл бұрын
Last time he tried bodge something to work, a rare but worthless IBM prototype blew up and everyone yelled at him for destroying something that was apparently valuable, despite it being worthless. Why do you think 5 of them ended up in boxes and eventually ended up in the warehouse of a long abandoned computer store?
I always look forward to your new videos. Thanks for another excellent episode.
Yay another 8BitGuy video! Glad to see your studio finished and a brand new fresh video!
I absolutely LOVE that cable!
Always getting in a good mood when watching your videos. Thanks!
excellent camera work. love the close up shots, it's like I was soldering
Its amazing how far retro recreations have come. BTW Nice soldering, its good to see someone that knows what they are doing!
Really enjoying the new content and your background 'graphic stuck to the wall' is MUCH better now. Excellent work and I look forward to many new and interesting videos, like this one!
Brilliant video! Can't get enough of them. It's my highlight of the week!
It's great there are still ppl like you keeping old tech alive!
So glad there’s a new video! This channel has gotten me through the pandemic. Found the channel through a restoration channel when someone mentioned how 8-bit Guy does retrobright…I’m hooked on this channel!
Cool computer kit! Also thanks for the news on the Commander X16 and Petscii Robots!
8Bit Guy you are truly the joy of my day. My day always gets a little better when I see you've uploaded a new video. Your videos have gotten better and the new studio is fantastic, keep up the amazing work.
Thanks Dave for another enjoyable video. Your videos always encourage and inspire me to get into my various computer projects. So thanks for the entertainment and 8-bit education! :)
Thanks for the video :) Really interesting to see the Vic 2020 and hear about it's diffences.
These videos of kit are always fun. I love seeing something new being put together, in order to make it play something that is 40 years old.
You're a busy guy! Love your videos. I appreciate all the time you put into them.
So ready for the x16!
The studio looks great now! Great work!
Always nice having a new video to watch David!
Studio lighting looking great in this episode! :D
Love watching these episodes featuring computer builds
This is exactly why I watch your channel Dave, great review!!
awesome progress on the x16 side
It's always such a treat when you upload a new video :) Hope everything's been well up in Texas!
You have no idea how much I enjoy watching your videos
The music from the Jensen guy is just great.
The music on this episode is amazing!
Nice!!! I don’t watch all the time but your videos make me so happy!
Cool music, love the panning synth.
Really cool to see a "modern" vintage working computer 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I'm so excited for the X16!
Kit looks superb nicely built sir i have never owned or used a vic 20 one i missed out on .x16 is looking great nice work .
Your videos are really well made and you relax me so much, indeed I am now sleepy. Thanks :)
This was excellent! Loved seeing the step-by-step of each part and chip. There was some ASMR level sounds when you were clicking in those chips lol.
I love this channel so much, thank you for all the great videos.
Those tiles turned out great.
Nice video. I was so glad to hear of some updates about x16. Can't wait until release)
Good points and review!
Another superb video. Love the new set, David.
I noticed that it has been quite a while, since there was a videi about the commander x16. It would love to see a new update video.
Wow, watching you solder this together brings back memories from the mid-80s when I spent many nights in the ITT Technical Institute lab setting up fellow students' capacitors to charging up and explode in their toolkits. Good times.
1:24 I like that you have delicate playing as you are checking all the delicate connections.
4:18 I thought I was the only one loves blue clicky switches. I absolutely love the sound and feels
Always learn a dozens new things about computers and enjoy the original music.
This looks fun, cheers for the video!! Been enjoying your stuff for a while. Think I found your brothers channel today (Mike), also very enjoyable.
Love that new studio
I don't collect vintage electronics and I would never try to build a computer like this, but I love watching you work with all this cool stuff.
I have designed such a device, an FPGA based VGA replacement for the VIC. In its present incarnation, it hooks in at the expander port. 😎
@HamsterSnr
2 жыл бұрын
The vga requires 6 connections and then an audio is needed. Using the standard 3.5mm and 15-way D, there is not enough room at the present 5-pin DIN connector. So it is either and external piece with just those 2 connectors or expansion port. Or modifying the case, which I think ppl will not want to do.
Fabulous my very first PC back in 1983. Cassette tapes and 8 in color monitor.
Omega Race on VIC-20 was the bomb (esp. w/a Wico joystick)! Nice vid as usual, really dig the assembly montages w/your chiptunes.
There is one song that is used repeatedly through here and every time it comes on I have flashback of my cell phone ringing about 10 years ago.
Your a very capable guy i bet you get great satisfaction from theses builds
Love the new hex arrangement for the background.
So I’m skipping basically my chores to watch this amazing video
I'm super excited about Petscii robots for Atari, it'll be the first new Atari game I've bought for a really long time...
@TheJeremyHolloway
2 жыл бұрын
you are aware of the AtariAge website, right?
Big fan from India .. love your channel. Your voice and tone is a catalyst man!!
My big Brother and I bugged our old man all the time for those gaming consoles back in the early 80's. One Day our father came home with brand new Vic20, Printer and Basic programing book, told us if we wanted to play video games you will have to program your own. My brother and I took our bikes to the book store in search of a more advanced book on Basic if that makes any sense, had to wait for the special order about 10 days. My Dad designed and built a sound proof cabinet for the Printer.
The negatives/doublespeak on that moisture card are annoying as $#!%! It may not have mattered, but I think it was actually telling you that you DID need to bake them: "Bake parts if 10% is NOT blue..." {which is true, because it is pink, not blue} "...and 5% is pink." {which it also true}
@barryon8706
2 жыл бұрын
That's how I read it. It seemed like it was describing two sets of parts, the level 2 parts that didn't need baking (because the first circle was blue, and the level 2A-5A parts that did need baking. Took me a couple reads to get that, though.
All those modded vic 20s you saw at that music warehouse need to be saved so they can salvage those chips.
Love the new background.
Very Cool. my first computer was a Commodore VIC-20 that I got my senior year on high school. I later got the cassette, disk drive and 16k RAM module.
I'd really like to know the reason for the VIC screen ram changing position. Oversight? Price compromise? Weird logic design and backwards compatibility?
16:06 YES! YES! THANK YOU!! Will it run on a Atari 400 with 16k, or do you need at least 48k like an 800 has? My 800XL has 256k so I should be good. :D
@TheJeremyHolloway
2 жыл бұрын
you could upgrade the Atari 400 to 48K even back in the day. And there's a lot of upgrades for both... even modern ones like the Incognito board... there's plenty of KZread vids about it.
@fragalot
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheJeremyHolloway I know, I'm just wondering that the system requirements would be, or if it would run on a non-XL/XE Atari in the first place.
Thanks for the video. More about the x16 :D
16:06 Wow! Thanks for the update.
The VIC chip shortage could be solved by the use of an FPGA drop-in replacement. It shouldn't be too difficult to reverse engineer the VIC.
@marcelhh2101
2 жыл бұрын
Probably a CPLD is already goed enough! And maybe even a PIC could be used.
@johndododoe1411
2 жыл бұрын
Any replacement with generic chips will have a different pin out, so needs either a board redesign or a complex daughter board that plugs into the VIC socket. A PIC is a single chip computer and will have to run a software emulation, not a real time equivalent circuit as can be done with ULA chips such as FPGAs or CPLDs
@marcelhh2101
2 жыл бұрын
@@johndododoe1411 Well, I don't know how complex the VIC is, but there is a PIC based replacement for the SID as well. And of cause you need to create a small dochter board, but the footprint of this board does not mean that its much bigger than the chip itself. Specially when using SMD components.
@marcelhh2101
2 жыл бұрын
And P.S. they are already working on it, based on FPGA.
@crayzeape2230
2 жыл бұрын
@@marcelhh2101 It's a fairly complex chip, and while it might fit into a large CPLD, a small FPGA would be cheaper and larger than the largest CPLD.
so dope, these computers were definitely ahead of my time but I appreciate the hell out of this stuff nonetheless
That was fun! Good job!
Oh those modern clicky switches, love it!
Ah discrete components and hand soldering - that brings back memories !
Really like the new background music!
I'm too stupid to build computers but it is really satisfying to watch someone else do it and explain how it works. Great video.
@seanfaherty
2 жыл бұрын
You're not too stupid. You just don't have the opportunity to learn. A few years ago I hadn't programmed a computer since the Vic 20, then I got an arduino. Built a robot kit. Then I got a raspberry Pi. I screwed around with them for a few years mostly making network stuff, routers, TOR routers, an add blocker, a self hosted VPN , self hosted a website, all with directions from the internet ... stuff I thought I wasn't smart enough for. Lately I've gotten interested in INFOSEC. Yesterday I figured out how to get a back door in a new, updated Linux computer using a USB rubberducky. Today I would like to figure out how to do the same thing to a windows computer... now I'm not feeling smart. All you need is the opportunity, raspberry Pis are about $75 . Hack the Box is a freemium model, learn by doing thing. It would suck to do that from a phone but a library or school's computer lab is might be the answer. Good luck. Don't give up. Look, neither one of us is smart enough to design a car from the ground up but we are smart enough to turn the key and go for a drive . We know how to google up how to change the oil or a headlight. Not rocket science but we need to be shown how. It s not a matter of smart. It's a matter of finding the information and getting your hands dirty. Also don't give up when you get shitty directions off the internet. When you get an error just copy and paste that error code into the google box and you'll figure it out. If a fat old hippy living in Northern Canada can figure some of this stuff out so can you.
Love the Secret of Mana samples in the music
Good to see you got the house repaired after the flood.
I'm so happy to see so many people using these 8 bits. I spent a lot of hours typing on the VIC20, as many of us did, keying in software from magazines, trying to understand how they worked.. Sadly, I tossed mine out many years ago. Keep up the good work.
@mikeyoung9810
2 жыл бұрын
Typing in programs on a friends vic 20 was how my computer days started. (in fact I am still looking for one particular program from that time..Star Challenge). So tedious but it led to me owning a timex and c64's and many more. I don't have any of them anymore due to a flood but I have lots of great memories.
Love the 80's movie music montage vibe.
First time watching 8-Bit Guy on a proper hi-fi system. It's worth it!
The songs in this video are absolute bangers. I love it.
The music in this episode absolutely slapped.
I am very excited about the Commander X16. I have my keyboard ready and waiting.
Love the background
I like that you didn't dumb down the explanation and used the context and then explained the whole idea as it was meant to be seen. No fancy graphics or goofy stuff just the straight meat of the computer.