Building a Comp Monster! Then Hitting UNDO. D'oh!

Автокөліктер мен көлік құралдары

Some roads are smooth. Others have pot holes. And sometimes, you don't read the signs and end up taking a wrong turn.
Welcome back to the Road To Nationals, chronicling my preparation for the Aussie Nats in late March 2023. Today, an update on my Performance Scale rig build. We test an INJORA LCG 313mm WB chassis, give unlockable portals a go in the rear, and then make shaky steps to whatever comes next.
Whatever this thing has become so far, it looks like it should at least crawl okay... you know the drill:
Let's test!
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Equipment in current PScale Rig:
INJORA LCG CF Chassis Kit
www.injora.com/products/injor...
As well as:
- DLUX Fabrications Ham Berger transmission
- 1.9 Pro-Line Trencher 4.75" Tires, Predator Compound, with included Pro-Line foams.
- Wheels are INJORA beadlock cheapies, 110g per wheel.
- generic front AR44 wheel weights (63g each, iirc)
- INJORA steel universal drive shafts
- HobbyWing WP-1080 ESC
- Holmes 40T Trailmaster Pro 540 Brushed
- Holmes BLS SHV500 V2 Servo @12V direct
- Turnigy 700mAh 3S 70C LiPO
- SCX10II RBK AR44 single piece front axle
- SCX10II RBK shocks (after-market super-soft springs in rear)
- assorted links and cross-members from the spares box
CHAPTERS
0:00 PScale Build Update
6:23 6-Problem Rock Test
17:28 Test Debrief
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Пікірлер: 74

  • @POP_RC
    @POP_RC Жыл бұрын

    how did you manage to achieve such a sharp turn without the clicking effect? I have TRX4 and at this point of turning it's struggling and hitting dif cover.

  • @RCTNT

    @RCTNT

    Жыл бұрын

    Universal axles give the best turn angle. We can do even better than this - check out the BRX70 axles in my Gelande II from the recent Scale-1 video I did about it. Crazy! Trx4 uses CVD (Constant Velocity Drive) joints. As I've explained on various videos in the past, this gives you a linear rotation at all steering angles. However, the best you can hope for with the most epic of CVD axles is about 47° - and that's pushing it! Unis, on the other hand, can get you well into the high 50s. The drawback is you get a rotation that goes fast-slow-fast-slow on full lock as the shaft rotates around the U-joint. This is the biggest drawback of the TRX4 as a comp rig, for me. I want to get some unis into those front axles and then, oh boy, it would be beastly! Axial has unis in their portal axles, for whatever that's worth to know!

  • @RS-sv3bl
    @RS-sv3bl Жыл бұрын

    A beautiful mind vs measure twice cut once. Don’t worry, you’ll love the rebuild. We live for the build!

  • @RCTNT

    @RCTNT

    Жыл бұрын

    Ha! I've cut three times and drilled 7 holes before I remember to measure! You got me!! Hehe Thank you :)

  • @dudleythree3
    @dudleythree3 Жыл бұрын

    Good to see a comp build struggle on your test track, love that after watching rtr struggle as well.....proves when you say, they don't have to finish

  • @RCTNT

    @RCTNT

    Жыл бұрын

    Wouldn't be much of a test course if most rigs could drive it all! Cheers

  • @jimmykelly5928
    @jimmykelly5928 Жыл бұрын

    Hey man, I've been binge-watching your YT channel for about a week. Absolutely amazing, comprehensive content. You've helped me get back into the RC hobby, especially crawlers. I'm so happy you're around and I wish you all the best success.

  • @RCTNT

    @RCTNT

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks a lot for letting me know, Jimmy. That's really encouraging - and I'm so glad it's been helpful to you! Thanks for watching my videos!

  • @imeonhere
    @imeonhere Жыл бұрын

    You can reverse the rear Trx rear axle rotation by using a Trx 6x6 rear axle housing. The diff is flipped in the housing which reverses the drive. You’ll need a Trx 6x6 diff cover too. Part numbers are Axle housing - TRX8837 Diff cover - TRX8847

  • @RCTNT

    @RCTNT

    Жыл бұрын

    Ok, thanks. I have those parts here already. Great!

  • @KEVLAR_RC7275
    @KEVLAR_RC7275 Жыл бұрын

    Damn and I was looking into those lcg chassis for the Grando rebuild. Learn something every time here thank you. Hey, I got around to taking the dig apart in my Capra,rounded off every corner on every part of the locker. It made a drastic difference in disengaging. And a little bit of epa on the 3 position switch and it free wheels the rear better.

  • @RCTNT

    @RCTNT

    Жыл бұрын

    Nice one, I need to do that on a few cars too. Good idea!

  • @Andy_Yates
    @Andy_Yates Жыл бұрын

    A couple of the local guys run a mullet build. I hear they can work really well since you can keep the weight low in the front and have a lightweight rear end. With clearance, if you fit the front over, chances are good the rear will have an easier time of it. It'll be fun to see the next iteration of this! I also look forward to your thoughts on the UTB18. Hearing that they have 12mm hex and plenty of good tire options in the 3.8" range (eg the JConcept Tusk), there are great tire/wheel options from the start

  • @RCTNT

    @RCTNT

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm looking forward to sharing my thoughts too! Though I'm going to have to build a set of pin tires as I'm not sure there are any on the market (though I haven't looked hard yet). Work continues!

  • @Andy_Yates

    @Andy_Yates

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RCTNT Ohh baby pin tires? Now we're talking 🙌. Either way it seems like the UTB has a ton of potential as a buggy in its size/configuration

  • @RCTNT

    @RCTNT

    Жыл бұрын

    It's an exciting time for the hobby!

  • @RobKingRC
    @RobKingRC Жыл бұрын

    I just did the Injora lcg chassis Scx10ii build, It’s brushless with a cut down Creep body, he’s a beast now!

  • @RCTNT

    @RCTNT

    Жыл бұрын

    Nice! I bet it is

  • @RobKingRC

    @RobKingRC

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RCTNT Nice build btw.

  • @Charlvdwalt073
    @Charlvdwalt073 Жыл бұрын

    Charl from south africa , Living in south africa i can just dream about rig like this

  • @IowaBudgetRCBashers
    @IowaBudgetRCBashers Жыл бұрын

    I didn’t know there were all these rules to comp crawling. Great build and great video

  • @RCTNT

    @RCTNT

    Жыл бұрын

    Not all rulesets have this degree of limitation. We're using WRCCA because that's what all the Aussie clubs run and I want to be compatible with them. But to argue for them, I'll say that limitations can enhance the fun - it's how humans have always thrived and this is a microcosm of that. Plus it helps ensure the focus is on driver skill rather than pay to win by having the best gear, which appeals greatly to me :)

  • @jimveness9375
    @jimveness9375 Жыл бұрын

    I feel your comp rule two channel pain Craig ….. but your Bitza crawler is a bonzer! (For your non-Aussie viewers, that means it is bloody good.) looking forward to your final configuration.

  • @RCTNT

    @RCTNT

    Жыл бұрын

    Wasn't a bad start, was it! I think I've got the rear situation sorted now - I found a portal rear axle that can be flipped and still retain correct rotation to match with the trans in its current config. Even better, the TRX4 axle it replaces will fit under the donor vehicle, upgrading it to a slightly better overdrive ratio and giving it a rear remote locker. Win-win! Just gotta find some time to get it done! Lots happening this month!!

  • @elduderinolebowski5411
    @elduderinolebowski5411 Жыл бұрын

    That's quite an impressive build. It's pretty obvious that a lot of thought went into putting that together. Quite a shame that you can't keep the switchable rear diff for the Class 2 competition. The whole package looks well done and quite capable. Those bent rear links give it a really wild appearance. For those aluminum side plates, have you considered throwing together a quick design and 3D printing some replacements? With the right design, a set of those made from PETG would probably be just the ticket, and look super sharp into the bargain. Maybe even TPU if a little flexibility would be helpful.

  • @RCTNT

    @RCTNT

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! I think nylon or delrin would be the ticket. I've found PETG to be a little 'sticky' on the rocks. TPU probably would be too, given it's somewhat rubber-like characteristics. I reckon I'll get it sorted though! Just need to set another evening aside to tinker :)

  • @elduderinolebowski5411

    @elduderinolebowski5411

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RCTNT Nylon, or carbon-infused nylon, would probably work best. Kind of expensive, difficult to work with, and I have very little experience with it. Not every printer can run that stuff, either. But if you can do it, that stuff is marvellously strong, has a great finish, and is pretty slick. That being said, I designed a set of rock sliders for our daughter's RGT 136100 V2, since it didn't come with any. I made them out of TPU, initially to keep them from getting broken through mishandling, and just so they'd last more than one run outside. I expected them to be pretty sticky and not do more than protect the body, without improving capability. It turns out, they work really well in that application. They're just bendy enough to have some give on really hard stuff, but just firm enough to actually slide over stuff. I've been impressed with how well they work, honestly. now, PETG, yeah, I can see how it might get a little sticky, depending on how it was printed and the finish work, and probably a host of factors I don't know anything about. For my own use, I've made a lot of RC stuff out of PETG, and been pretty happy with the results. I think it's a far more durable and wear-resistant material than PLA. This sounds like a perfect testing opportunity. I'm going to have to make a set of test sliders and see how I make out.

  • @RCTNT

    @RCTNT

    Жыл бұрын

    Love it. Thanks for the info. Now I think about the TPU tires I've made, I guess they are pretty firm. Interesting. I won't have time to get this done before comp time but I'll keep it in mind. I wouldn't mind having a play with these ideas too. Thanks for the discussion on it.

  • @muskokamike127
    @muskokamike127 Жыл бұрын

    12;51 you'd buzz right through prob 4 if those two side plates were narrower by putting the esc etc vertically. You could do the same on the other side with the battery.

  • @RCTNT

    @RCTNT

    Жыл бұрын

    Or if they were removed altogether. I'm thinking even just a narrow plastic bumper line along each side as a slider instead...

  • @muskokamike127

    @muskokamike127

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RCTNT One of the things of having the weight "out there" is it gives it a wider COG. Kind of like a tightrope walker with a long pole.....you have room in the chassis to bring everything "inside" but then the weight is all piled up along a very narrow centre line.

  • @RCTNT

    @RCTNT

    Жыл бұрын

    I'd never considered that before. Thanks, that's a great point.

  • @maritimezombie7684
    @maritimezombie7684 Жыл бұрын

    maybe use a element stealth transmission. there is hot racing underdrive gears that can be used to provide 25% or more underdrive to rear, in your case run it backwards to underdrive your front.

  • @RCTNT

    @RCTNT

    Жыл бұрын

    Oh that's a great idea, thank you! I didn't know about that, despite having several stealthx transmissions here! I do have this sorted now thankfully. Next video on this car drops in 39 hours. It's looking pretty good now!

  • @Wild_Buggy
    @Wild_Buggy Жыл бұрын

    👍👍👍

  • @LRCR
    @LRCR Жыл бұрын

    Very Nice Build with the Injora Chassis and those HC link's using the TRX 4 Portal... Rule's can make it difficult to achieve an advantage in the comps for sure... Hey I like trading in Channel Sticker's and it would be Awesome to have Your's on my 🎉 RCF4L Sticker Board if You're interested in Trading ✌🤠👍 HFLPRCing =Having Fun Laughing Playing and RCing 👍😎👍 AOAH =Association of Addicted Hobbiest 🙏 SSPH =Stay Safe and Play Healthy My Friend 🏁💯🏁

  • @RCTNT

    @RCTNT

    Жыл бұрын

    I like the limitations the rules bring. Makes it more about the driver - though it makes optimising the rig important too. I don't have stickers or anything to trade here, sorry.

  • @vlozity
    @vlozity Жыл бұрын

    your belly skid is not for LCG chasis so that gets caught on the rocks. also I am not a fan of diff lockers, on my trx4 axles, i have all those locked and even went with closing the cable access holes because it was giving me problems with the way I had setup my rig, used a soldering iron with a flat tip and melted the plastic

  • @RCTNT

    @RCTNT

    Жыл бұрын

    Understandable! Remote lockers on any comp rig are a bit pointless - well, mostly. Unlocking the rear can be helpful but maybe not worth the hassle! I flipped those pans in the follow up and it did a lot better.

  • @javierobiolssabate7777
    @javierobiolssabate7777 Жыл бұрын

    Hola , solo es opinión pero creo que un coche de trial extremo no debería llevar plataformas laterales ya que dificultan su progreso si quitas esas piezas que hacen de bandeja y pones el variador y la batería dentro del chasis mejorará mucho

  • @RCTNT

    @RCTNT

    Жыл бұрын

    That's a good opinion! The problem is the body could bend on rocks and that isn't allowed in the rules we use. So, sliders or side pans help prevent this.

  • @YoShImUrA53
    @YoShImUrA53 Жыл бұрын

    Inspired rear axle locker setup! Real pity you can't use it... But you could get the portals to straight axle conversion hubs for the axle, maybe? I was wondering about the receiver you're using. That looks just like the FS-GR3E AFHDS receiver that GT3 transmitters use. I thought the GT5 couldn't work on this protocol. Did you mod the GT5 in any way, or am I confusing the rx with another model? In such case, I could easily upgrade from my GT3c which is failing almost constantly and I really can't stand. I only keep it for the around dozen receivers installed in several rigs...

  • @RCTNT

    @RCTNT

    Жыл бұрын

    Haha no it's the FS-A3, which is AFHDS 2 and works with the GT5. I have a bunch of the FS-GR3E and some 6 ch here too but they're all in a drawer. FS-A3 are cheap at least, and the fs-ia6 works too, if you need more channels. Buy in bulk and save!

  • @mdgeist472
    @mdgeist472 Жыл бұрын

    How about delrin sliders instead of aluminum. Aluminum seems to stick more.

  • @RCTNT

    @RCTNT

    Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely better, yes!

  • @hori_ink82
    @hori_ink8211 ай бұрын

    Just take the locker out on the rear and fully lock it

  • @RCTNT

    @RCTNT

    11 ай бұрын

    Yeah man, that's the way :) Gotta experiment and play with things to learn things. I don't mind sharing my fails with you guys, we all get better that way. Thanks for watching man

  • @CalsRcworld
    @CalsRcworld Жыл бұрын

    Just out of curiosity, do you know if C1 rigs for nationals have to have a flat skid? Its great that C2 can have an angled skid. I really like what you have done with the Injora chassis.👍🏼

  • @RCTNT

    @RCTNT

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks. I don't think Scale-1 needs a horizontal skid. I just had a look over the rules and nothing is noted about it. You can check them out yourself here: melbournecompcrawlers.com.au/

  • @CalsRcworld

    @CalsRcworld

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RCTNT cheers.

  • @jameswilliamson7441
    @jameswilliamson7441 Жыл бұрын

    Exactly what Samix links did you use?

  • @RCTNT

    @RCTNT

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm not sure, sorry, they're from my links box and I've had em for some years at this point.

  • @samloveelvis
    @samloveelvis Жыл бұрын

    Drive shaft is exposed, which is not ideal. 50% overdrive is too much IMO.

  • @RCTNT

    @RCTNT

    Жыл бұрын

    It's too much in my opinion, too! I've since fixed it up and now have 12.5% and it's very nice indeed :) Have another video on it already filmed, just gotta put it together.

  • @WoodsUnknown
    @WoodsUnknown Жыл бұрын

    Do you have any issues with the rear drive shaft being lower then the links?

  • @RCTNT

    @RCTNT

    Жыл бұрын

    Not with this rig. The shaft stays in near perfect alignment throughout the suspension cycle and being a solid, steel uni joint, the occasional contact it'll make with rock won't hurt it. However, not all drive shafts are created equal and there are numerous designs out there that would be damaged to failure after a lot of (or sometimes even a little) contact with rock. This one though? All good :)

  • @muskokamike127

    @muskokamike127

    Жыл бұрын

    If it was plastic it'd get chewed up sliding over rocks and might get the vehicle crabbing sideways if it was making contact....

  • @RCTNT

    @RCTNT

    Жыл бұрын

    I giggled

  • @muskokamike127

    @muskokamike127

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RCTNT being 61, I have an issue with my berries being lower than my link...... did I just say that outloud?

  • @RCTNT

    @RCTNT

    Жыл бұрын

    Lol

  • @muskokamike127
    @muskokamike127 Жыл бұрын

    Me being devious and all, is there a way to connect your locking rear diff to the throw on the steering servo? So if you go full lock to the right it engages then go full lock on the left to disengage? Then you'd technically be compliant as you'd only be running 2 channels.

  • @RCTNT

    @RCTNT

    Жыл бұрын

    Devious is the word! That's clever! However, I think the final catch-all rule in the WRCCA book would probably apply in such cases, unless the organisers were cool with it. Letter of the law vs spirit of the law, etc. (That is: 8.3 - Violation of Intent: The intent of a written rule may include areas not explicitly expressed or illustrated. *The WRCCA Rules Committee has the ability to define the intent of a rule. A violation of the intent of a rule may be considered a violation of the rule itself.)

  • @muskokamike127

    @muskokamike127

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RCTNT Yeah I get that....."intent" vs "letter" lawyers use it all the time in court. Hence why I had a gf who always said I'd make an incredible lawyer lol You could also hook it up to something like a centrifugal clutch to the trans so it would "lock" once your rpms hit a certain speed and unlock when it got below a certain speed. KT did a video recently on a nitro vehicle that had a 3 speed trans with each gear having a centrifugal clutch with an engage and disengage setting. It was interesting. I almost want to buy just the trans to see how it works. Another way around it is like how "limited slip" differentials work in full sized vehicles. They use a clutch that will engage and disengage the lock.

  • @RCTNT

    @RCTNT

    Жыл бұрын

    For sure. There are auto lockers that pop out when you steer on hard ground then slide back in. I'm not a fan but they are cheap! Many nitro cars change from first to second on a centrifugal spring arrangement, same as that HPI XL 5.9 3-speed arrangement. In any case I think getting the geometry right on a p/scale rig should be enough to do well. No need for the extra trickery! (fun though it is)

  • @muskokamike127

    @muskokamike127

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RCTNT Yeah I think the 5.9 was the one kt was using but I am pretty sure it's a 3 speed. I remember him adjusting 3.....the bitch is you have to disassemble the trans to get at them. Come to think of it now, I'm actually kind of surprised no one has come up with a limited slip diff for r/c. Or maybe someone has and I just don't know about it. Anyhow, looking forward to the next iteration!

  • @RCTNT

    @RCTNT

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks :) (Poor man's LSD setup is to cram silicone ear plugs or blu-tac into your diff. Doesn't lock em up but they're pretty firm.)

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